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01:34 <@kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/pokered/analyze_texts.py
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08:48 < Juul> hey kanzure, how's your life
08:51 <@kanzure> buying phones
08:51 < Juul> lots of them?
08:51 <@kanzure> yep.. time for upgrades
08:51 <@kanzure> bbl
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09:15 < Juul> discussions between Jake Beal (BBN laboratories) and Autodesk about their non-openness and problems with "free for academic use" licensing
09:15 <@kanzure> heh
09:15 <@kanzure> i think those discussions would happen better with john walker
09:15 <@kanzure> rather than autodesk itself
09:16 < Juul> is he still in charge?
09:17 < Juul> doesn't look like it
09:17 < Juul> i'm sure he'd be an interesting guy to talk to though
09:18 <@kanzure> he is definitely not in charge
09:18 < Juul> Richard Kitney now arguing that synthetic biology is possible
09:19 <@kanzure> where are you?
09:19 < Juul> Synthetic Biology Open Language workshop
09:19 < Juul> i'm sure everyone here has heard these arguments before
09:20 < Juul> i'm not sure why it's called a language though
09:20 < Juul> so far it's just an XML data format
09:21 < Juul> i don't think that will change anytime soon
09:22 <@kanzure> libsbml? sbol?
09:22 <@kanzure> oh, it's probably sbol
09:23 < Juul> sbol yeah
09:23 < Juul> though we've been discussing a connection to SBML
09:23 <@kanzure> xml schema workshops... yikes
09:24 < Juul> heh. luckily we're not talking about the xml part of it, just creating a data model.
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09:28 < Juul> but yeah. it's a bit painful
09:31 <@kanzure> who else is there?
09:51 <@kanzure> has anyone figured out what a modern library should be? i.e. a copy of the internet archive?
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11:18 < Juul> hah, discussing whether a "change set" for a host cell is a good idea
11:18 < Juul> I wonder if the patch utility can handle stuff that's one long line
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11:56 < Juul> kanzure, the library at my home university is just a set of desks, some with computers, all with power and internet
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11:56 < Juul> the few remaining books are in the basement
11:57 < Juul> kanzure, i know the library of alexandria has done / is doing some interesting things
11:57 < Juul> like their stone spheres that encode important human works for very long term storage
12:00 <@kanzure> i want to go to a library and be able to request silly things like "A copy of all patents, please" and not get blank stares
12:00 < Juul> yeah
12:01 < Juul> i want librarians where i can walk up and say "hi! i have this idea, let me explain it to you <explains idea> do you know if anyone has done anything like that yet?"
12:01 < Juul> i wouldn't mind a redirect to another librarian
12:02 < Juul> gotta go, lunch!
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12:02 <@kanzure> or "I'd like a copy of the known internet, kthx" they shouldn't laugh.. that should be their job
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12:06 < Lucas_> Kanzure, are you still interested in the "transhumanist bootcamp" idea?
12:07 < superkuh> That last request seems a bit crazy. The amount of information that can be stored will probably always be limited by physical space (or at least surface area). Civilizations will use whatever capacity is available. Since local storage is limited by surface area, and surface area is something unlikely to be manufactured , any request for all public data will require as much surface area as the rest of the civilization devotes to it. An ind
12:07 < superkuh> ividual requesting those kinds of resources is out of order.
12:17 < augur> anyone know of any interesting experimental computer interfaces that people have been working on lately?
12:18 < Lucas_> there is the "eye mouse" thing
12:19 < augur> ok
12:20 <@kanzure> augur: brainport? :P it's not recent though
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12:45 < Lucas_> hello
12:46 < archels> hey
12:49 < Technicus> Sergeant Shamar Thomas is a champion: < http://www.youtube.com/user/SgtShamarThomasUSMC >.
12:59 < Lucas_> I am surprised he is allowed to do that
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16:13 <@kanzure> "Leading up to CES, MakerBot has commissioned a text adventure game from Andrew Plotkin. As you progress through the game you'll find free, downloadable plans for printable 3D objects, which serve as clues hinting at MakerBot's new product."
16:13 <@kanzure> well that's geeky
16:20 < ybit> i like it
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21:10 < foucist> what the heck is a transhumanist bootcamp?
21:11 < foucist> do people get naked?
21:11 < foucist> is it a free love commune?  with free uploading?
21:11 <@kanzure> basically i beat you into understanding and able to execute on biohacking/programming/machining
21:12 <@kanzure> unfortunately, people with money don't usually want to learn these things
21:12 <@kanzure> except programming, apparently
21:33 < strangewarp> For sufficient money, I will want to learn what you want to want me to want to learn
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22:09 < SDr> foucist, better question: *where is a transhumanist bootcamp*?
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22:47 < ybit> SDr: florence, alabama
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23:17 < foucist> SDr: not an important question..  it's probably wherever i am
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