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09:19 < kanzure> http://www.statesman.com/news/local/former-ut-student-investigated-in-lab-theft-2228507.html
09:33 < kanzure> site for uploading your figures/graphs? http://mx.figshare.com/
09:34 < kanzure> seems sorta specific for a hosting site
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10:11 < kanzure> http://www.nature.com/news/lab-chemicals-removed-from-texas-campus-1.10238
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15:34 < Steel3> sup all.
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16:36 < delinquentme> howdy Steel3 !!
16:36 < Steel3> how goes
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16:45 < Steel3> delinquentme, what are you working on
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16:46 < delinquentme> looking for electronics
16:46 < delinquentme> and this thing called HDL
16:47 < kanzure> hardware description language
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17:02 < kanzure> fenn: are you alive
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17:44 < Vicarious> hi
17:44 < kanzure> hello
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18:26 < Steel2> hmmm
18:26 < Steel2> wonder how much research has been done on computational complexity of trial law
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20:45 < ponr> hi friends
20:46 < kanzure> ponr: hi
20:52 < Steel2> hello ponr
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20:56 < eudoxia> hello
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21:01 < Steel2> lol, apparently my mom's doctor approved of use of choline/piracetam/flavonoid stuff
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21:05 < kanzure> "On June 26, 2009, Judge Chin ordered Madoff to personally forfeit $170 billion in assets"
21:05 < kanzure> something does not add up here
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21:43 < Steel2> So what's everyone working on?
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21:48 < Mokbortolan_> vegging
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21:59 < katsmeow-afk> talking robot stuff
22:03 < wvoq> talking (robot stuff) or (talking robot) stuff?
22:05 < katsmeow-afk> well, for the voice controlled robot, both
22:10 < ponr> are racetams safe with amphetamines
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22:19 < Steel2> shit
22:19 < Steel2> ponr quit
22:20 < katsmeow-afk> yeas
22:23 < Steel2> the answer to his question is 'not really'
22:23 < Steel2> from what I've read
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22:32 < katsmeow-afk> how does one measure the tiny amounts of piracetam from a bulk powder, and can you simply drop the measured amount into your morning milkshake?
22:33 < Steel2> you can ----roughly-- approximate a gram as 1 ml I believe
22:33 < kanzure> well
22:33 < kanzure> i officially have crashed protocol-online.org
22:33 < kanzure> good job me..
22:34 < kanzure> :/
22:34  * katsmeow-afk asks Steel2 to continue
22:34 < kanzure> never call it a milkshake! always a "powershake"
22:35  * katsmeow-afk likes her chocolate powershakes
22:35 < katsmeow-afk> with protein powder, etc
22:36 < Steel2> ehhh
22:36 < Steel2> I'd also not mix with with shit
22:36 < Steel2> -with
22:36 < Steel2> it's vile
22:36 < Steel2> (I use oxi, not pira)
22:36 < katsmeow-afk> so,, snort the piracetam?
22:36 < Steel2> no, just mix with water
22:37 < Steel2> not things you enjoy tasting
22:37 < Steel2> sorry
22:37 < katsmeow-afk> if i drink the water mixture, then immediately drink the powershake, what's the difference to my stomach vs putting it right in the powershake?
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22:39 < Steel2> http://www.reddit.com/help/faqs/nootropics#ShouldItakepiracetamonanemptystomachorwithfood
22:39 < kanzure> false! never eat food
22:40 < katsmeow-afk> <blink>
22:40 < kanzure> this is why i am not a licensed nutritionist
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22:52 < katsmeow-afk> my vitamin pill has 10mg choline in it
22:58 < katsmeow-afk> wikipedia : The Adequate Intake (AI) of choline is 425 mg (milligrams) per day for adult women; higher for pregnant and breastfeeding women. The AI for adult men is 550 mg/day.
22:59 < Steel2> I'd get a choline pill
23:00 < katsmeow-afk> not bulk powder?
23:01 < Steel2> I use pills, powder might be an option, not familiar with the taste
23:02 < Mokbortolan_> bitartrate is much better, apparently
23:02 < katsmeow-afk> should i post an url for to get your feedback on?
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23:02 < katsmeow-afk> wb steel
23:02 < katsmeow-afk> should i post an url for to get your feedback on?
23:03 < Steel3> sure
23:04 < katsmeow-afk> http://www.ebay.com/itm/20G-7-Oz-Choline-Bitartrate-Ultra-Pure-Powder-Lab-Tested-Verified-/330697732298
23:05 < Steel3> choline is pretty standard stuff, actually
23:06 < Steel3> should be relatively the same, though I'm not familiar with that particular brand
23:07 < katsmeow-afk> that brand is the same as these : Muscle-Empire™, TheBulkSource™, HardRhino™, RhinoStaks™,GABAdepot™, HorseBlends™, TheAminoStore™, BangBangStacks™, MySuperMule™, PetBlends™, PonyBlends™, PetMedica™, CaffeineDepot™, GuardianNaturals™, PureInositol™, PureArginine™, GuardianDetox™, and Xyless™ and respective web addresses are trademarks of Guardian Biosciences, Inc.
23:07 < Steel3> I've heard good things about hardrhino
23:07 < Steel3> mokbortalon had good stuff to say about them
23:08 < katsmeow-afk> they are not pricey, and they ship quickly, is all o know
23:09 < Mokbortolan_> the only good thing I've said about hardrhino is that they matched my prices
23:09 < Mokbortolan_> and they don't seem outright corrupt
23:09 < Mokbortolan_> so I can use them as an excuse to not order piracetam this go'round :p
23:09 < Steel3> hah.
23:12 < katsmeow-afk> just to be lazy about dosing, since that company sells 20g packets of choline and piracetam, i could take two does per day of 250mg each dose each supplement, and possibly be happy?
23:12 < katsmeow-afk> doses
23:13 < Mokbortolan_> no
23:13 < katsmeow-afk> ok then
23:13 < Mokbortolan_> ideal dose is 4.8g/day
23:13 < Mokbortolan_> of piracetam
23:13 < katsmeow-afk> it just got pricey again
23:13 < Mokbortolan_> where?
23:13 < katsmeow-afk> 4.8 g sounds real high to me
23:14 < Mokbortolan_> now you understand why people buy it by the kilogram
23:14 < Mokbortolan_> hardrhino sells it for $54.58/kg, I was selling it for $55/kg
23:14  * katsmeow-afk gets url
23:14 < katsmeow-afk> http://www.ebay.com/itm/360427773426
23:14 < Mokbortolan_> both include shipping
23:14 < Mokbortolan_> yeah, don't buy piracetam off of ebayu
23:14 < katsmeow-afk> i did n't buy that url
23:15 < Mokbortolan_> not cheaper oxiracetam? oxiracetam is more expensive
23:15 < katsmeow-afk> i dunno, that's why i ask
23:16 < Mokbortolan_> might as well get it from their site
23:16 < Mokbortolan_> it's not any cheaper through ebay, unless you just really like ebay for some rason
23:16 < Mokbortolan_> +e
23:16 < katsmeow-afk> ouch, their 500g is $33, their 1000g is $60
23:16 < Mokbortolan_> yeah, more expensive
23:17 < katsmeow-afk> no, i was looking and didn't find much anywhere else, so i tried ebay as a lark
23:17 < Mokbortolan_> noopept is more bang for your buck
23:17 < katsmeow-afk> i don't have any allegiance to anything ,, i wasted it all on adrafinal, which isn't made any more
23:17 < Mokbortolan_> tho, it tastes worse, which is barely possible
23:18 < Mokbortolan_> I'd talk about how easy it is to get mdfinl, but I'm not going to
23:18 < katsmeow-afk> it's pricey as hell, and etc
23:19 < Mokbortolan_> naa
23:19 < Mokbortolan_> just gotta know where to shop
23:19 < katsmeow-afk> so is  noopept, according to ebay : http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=+noopept&_sacat=See-All-Categories
23:20 < katsmeow-afk> "but is up to 1000 times more potent than the prototypical racetam drug, piracetam."?
23:22 < Mokbortolan_> I want some phenotropil :(
23:22 < katsmeow-afk> i don't have any
23:28 < katsmeow-afk> http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showwiki.php?title=List_of_Nootropics
23:28 < Steel3> Mad science idea: rdb
23:28 < kanzure> ruby debugger?
23:29 < Steel3> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120315145025.htm shove one of these into you
23:29 < Steel3> rdb is a dude in here
23:31 < katsmeow-afk> sugar fuel cells implant idea combined with brainless chickens idea, hmmmm
23:34 < Steel3> man
23:34 < Steel3> I need to start a notepad
23:34 < Steel3> or a wiki page
23:35 < Steel3> with what everyone on here is working on
23:35 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki
23:35 < kanzure> git clone git://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki.git
23:35 < kanzure> git push when you're ready
23:35 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki
23:35 < kanzure> for an overview (from the git-end of things)
23:36 < Steel3> I don't really use git (mainly because I have no reason to at the moment)
23:36 < kanzure> no it's a wiki
23:40 < Steel3> wonder how hard it was to get that biofuel cell to work...
23:41 < Steel3> kanzure: Lenka Halámková, Jan Halámek, Vera Bocharova, Alon Szczupak, Lital Alfonta, Evgeny Katz. Implanted Biofuel Cell Operating in a Living Snail. Journal of the American Chemical Society, 2012; : 120308155036002 DOI:
23:41 < Steel3> no access :(
23:58 < kanzure> http://www.protocol-online.org/biowiki/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&days=3000&limit=500
23:59 < rdb> *yawn* mornin\
23:59 < kanzure> Steel3: ee not right nowww
23:59 < kanzure> later maybe
23:59 < Steel3> kk
23:59 < Steel3> rdb, you see the link I posted?
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