--- Log opened Thu May 03 00:00:59 2012 00:02 < Utopiah> http://www.elpistheory.info Extreme Lifespans through Perpetual-equalising Interventions (ELPIs) 00:03 < kanzure> eh? 00:07 < jennicide> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tlhMRoNJrs 00:07 < kanzure> what is it? 00:07 < jennicide> probably the best thing ever 00:17 < delinquentme> jennicide, listen 00:17 < delinquentme> that 00:17 < delinquentme> THAT is a mashu[ 00:17 < delinquentme> and THAT is illegal ok? 00:17 < jennicide> its true 00:17 < jennicide> i reject your reality and substitute my own 00:18 < delinquentme> ha! 00:18 < delinquentme> jennicide, sorry no catholics 00:56 -!- srangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:57 -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-66-27-117-179.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:57 -!- ziyadb__ [u4806@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-skucyhnkdrgxguyl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:57 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit 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Moth Remember What It Learned As a Caterpillar? http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0001736 05:19 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:38 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:16 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer] 06:22 -!- roksprok_ [~roksprok@74.83.205.124] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:22 -!- roksprok_ [~roksprok@74.83.205.124] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 06:22 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:35 -!- kvltist [~Kvltist@p5B33F1A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:23 < kanzure> beep bop 07:23 < JayDugger> Good morning. 07:23 < JayDugger> When did you learn the binary language of moisture evaporators? 07:28 < kanzure> somewhere between my 341st and 519th viewing of star wars 07:28 < JayDugger> Let me know when you master the encrypted telepathy of Hodgson's "The Night Land." 07:43 -!- ziyadb__ is now known as ziyadb 07:43 -!- ziyadb [u4806@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqdnintbmvjdymhj] has quit [Changing host] 07:43 -!- ziyadb [u4806@unaffiliated/ziyadb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:43 -!- ziyadb [u4806@unaffiliated/ziyadb] has quit [Changing host] 07:43 -!- ziyadb [u4806@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqdnintbmvjdymhj] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:50 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:55 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:20 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:38 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEASNet-148-05.seas.upenn.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:51 -!- archels [~foo@sascha.esrac.ele.tue.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:54 < kanzure> http://freerangelibrarian.com/2010/03/07/it-aint-easy-being-oclc/ 09:01 -!- 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13:01 -!- He||eshin is now known as Helleshin 13:04 -!- fenn_ is now known as fenn 13:05 <@kanzure> fenn: hi 13:05 <@kanzure> nmz787 left some messages in the backlog for you and some commits 13:05 <@kanzure> also.. happy birthday 13:08 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:10 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:12 < fenn> thanks 13:12 < fenn> i'm not sure what he meant about adding the plates, the file laser_etcher.txt isn't where we have been keeping the BOM up to date 13:13 <@kanzure> the google spreadsheet could probably be dumped into a .csv or .xls file into the repo now that nmz787 is okay with git 13:14 < fenn> ok will do that 13:44 <@kanzure> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3925452 ?-s may expose php source code 13:48 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-11-148.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:58 -!- ThomasEgi 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turmeric is used for increasing lifespan, not for making food look pretty 14:53 < nsh> oh, right 14:54 < fenn> typically growers will harvest turmeric earlier(?) in its lifecycle, when it's more yellow colored, but has less curcumin 14:54 * nsh nods 15:06 -!- augur [~augur@206.196.186.16] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:08 < delinquentme> anyone in here apply for SBIR grants? 15:08 < delinquentme> fenn, stepper acceleration 15:08 < delinquentme> have you worked w these? 15:09 < delinquentme> kanzure, SBIR 15:09 < fenn> you can get stepper driver modules that have resonance compensation, i.e. gecko 15:09 < fenn> or you can add mechanical damping to the motor 15:09 < fenn> or you can just not worry about it 15:09 <@kanzure> govt money? i don't want a loan 15:09 < fenn> resonance is not as bad if you're microstepping 15:10 < delinquentme> so I've got an arduino lib which can accelerate through it but im not sure about its robustness 15:10 < delinquentme> kanzure, its a grant 15:10 < fenn> are you actually losing steps due to resonance? 15:10 < fenn> it could be friction/binding in your mechanism 15:11 < fenn> or just bad acceleration settings 15:11 < delinquentme> 1) whats the ceiling cap on the speed past the resonant point 15:12 < delinquentme> is it just how fast the motor can step with its given voltage? 15:12 < delinquentme> physically* step 15:15 < fenn> pretty much 15:15 < fenn> you run into iron losses eventually 15:15 < fenn> then the insulation melts and bang 15:16 < delinquentme> check 15:23 -!- Cat4D [182bd7e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.215.226] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:41 <@kanzure> that new php exploit is amazing 15:41 <@kanzure> http://isp.ust.hk/cgi-bin/connectdb.php?-s 15:41 <@kanzure> oh god 15:41 <@kanzure> http://help.station.sony.com/cgi-bin/soe.cfg/php/enduser/live.php?-s 15:42 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:42 < fenn> what, you just type -s after the url and it spews passwords at you? 15:43 <@kanzure> yes 15:43 < yashgaroth> ha 15:45 < yashgaroth> oh no did clicking that link make me a hacker? I don't even have a gibson 15:52 < nsh> ... 15:52 -!- _Sketch_ [~Sketch@71-91-221-175.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:53 -!- _Sketch_ [~Sketch@71-91-221-175.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:54 <@kanzure> https://help.overstock.com/app/contact_page?-s 15:59 < nsh> http://eindbazen.net/2012/05/php-cgi-advisory-cve-2012-1823/ 15:59 < nsh> php is a constant source of marvel and pity 16:02 <@kanzure> http://support.snapfish.com/app/answers/preview_detail/a_id/733/brand/3/?-s 16:03 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@wireless-nat-7.auckland.ac.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:04 <@kanzure> http://help.vodafone.co.nz/app/topics?-s 16:07 < fenn> are these urls particularly interesting? i mean, what would i do with a .nz vodaphone account 16:11 < fawwo> poor php 16:17 < fenn> the high school makerspace requirements looks pretty well done to me. (do the example links in the pdf work for anyone else?) 16:19 <@kanzure> there is some concern on the hackerspaces mailing list that o'reilly is going to go evil and make this a trademark thing 16:19 <@kanzure> they do have some language in the doc to suggest they are trying to control what sorta products schools buy (makerbot, makezine, etc.) 16:24 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:24 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:29 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:33 < delinquentme> http://www.funsci.com/fun3_en/uzoom/uzoom.htm DIY sterio microscope 16:33 < delinquentme> stereo ** 16:42 <@kanzure> well that was fun 16:48 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-101-208-182.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48 -!- Helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-101-208-182.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:53 < JayDugger> Cheer up. 16:53 < JayDugger> Would you be interested in a second-hand decommissioned missile base as a second home? 16:55 < JayDugger> How about a sysadmin job in MD with General Dynamics? 16:55 < JayDugger> I think their line about a TS/SCI with polygraph purely a formality. 16:56 <@kanzure> how much is the missile base? 16:56 < JayDugger> Which one? 16:56 < JayDugger> http://www.missilebases.com/properties 16:56 < yashgaroth> it's not a formality 16:56 <@kanzure> ah yes those 16:56 <@kanzure> i have been looking at those 17:04 < Mokbortolan_> I'll take the sysadmin job 17:05 < Mokbortolan_> as long as its at least 80/hr 17:05 < JayDugger> If you're serious, I'll send you a link in PM. yashgaroth has it right, despite my joke. 17:05 < Mokbortolan_> Ok 17:05 < JayDugger> TS/SCI w/polygraph sucks, I'm told 17:05 < Mokbortolan_> I previously had secret 17:05 * Mokbortolan_ isn't afraid of a polygraph. 17:06 < yashgaroth> of course it pays well, they make weapons 17:06 < JayDugger> Or it might just be an intelligence community IT support job. 17:08 < yashgaroth> my roommate works there with a bachelor's in CS, but doing drone radar stuff 17:08 < JayDugger> Please encourage him to do good work. 17:09 < yashgaroth> that's what the money is for 17:09 < JayDugger> The advancing state of the art in RPVs will soon enough hit general aviation, and the sooner the better. 17:21 <@kanzure> wut? so this time the beam system raised $100k 17:21 <@kanzure> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ttstam/openbeam-an-open-source-miniature-construction-sys 17:21 < JayDugger> Perhaps they will have something to ship this time. 17:26 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:26 -!- _Sketch_ [~Sketch@71-91-221-175.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:27 -!- _Sketch_ [~Sketch@71-91-221-175.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:27 -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:46 -!- fawwo [~fawwo@95.211.10.25] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:56 <@kanzure> another scaremongering attempt from our buddies at PBS 17:56 <@kanzure> http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/jan-june12/makingsense_04-26.html 17:57 <@kanzure> "hmm.. well it sounds like our views were misrepresented again. I don't think anyone is claiming that it is possible to stop new viruses from being created. So what did this reporter think he was doing ? Giving us another biology update? Yep, still biology guys." 17:58 <@kanzure> "a high-level consultant to the US government and INTERPOL" 17:58 <@kanzure> "high-level" hahah 18:23 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:23 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:55 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [-o kanzure] by ChanServ 18:57 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:19 -!- kvltist [~Kvltist@p5B33F1A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26 -!- Jora [~Jora@24-196-83-3.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:26 -!- Jora [~Jora@24-196-83-3.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Changing host] 19:26 -!- Jora [~Jora@unaffiliated/jora] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:35 -!- jmil [~jmil@SEASNet-148-05.seas.upenn.edu] has quit [Quit: jmil] 20:03 -!- Jora [~Jora@unaffiliated/jora] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:04 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@wireless-nat-7.auckland.ac.nz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:07 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:15 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-67-163-157-246.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:21 < kanzure> http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/66172-isolation-of-transcription-enzymes/ 20:23 < yashgaroth> wtf 20:25 < kanzure> haha 20:25 < kanzure> "then you need a technique to synthesis telomerase from the polymerase" 20:26 < yashgaroth> he says "the amino acids in the DNA" a lot 20:27 < kanzure> <3 20:28 < yashgaroth> someone saying 'telomerase' in almost any context is a strong warning sign, though in this case it was quite obvious before he says that 20:47 < kanzure> oh geeze cloud plm http://www.arenasolutions.com/ 20:47 < kanzure> hrm 20:55 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:56 < kanzure> hi klafka 20:57 < klafka> hey! 21:02 -!- Juul [~Juul@171.66.172.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:03 < kanzure> hi juul 21:03 < kanzure> we might be getting some contacts at common crawl 21:03 < kanzure> and mendeley 21:03 < Juul> hi kanzure 21:03 < Juul> oh nice 21:03 < Juul> i 21:03 < Juul> oops 21:03 < Juul> i'm slightly drunk 21:04 < Juul> just came back from endy lab beer thing 21:04 < kanzure> the best time to code 21:04 < kanzure> and/or yell at people on irc 21:04 < yashgaroth> hey do you know william gunn at mendeley? 21:04 < Juul> kanzure, WE NEED MORE BITS! MOOOOORE BIIIIIIITS!!! 21:04 < kanzure> indeed sir 21:04 < kanzure> yashgaroth: yes 21:04 < kanzure> yashgaroth: i was talking with him today actually 21:04 < yashgaroth> ah I met him here a week ago, also while drunk 21:04 < yashgaroth> diybio chat and such 21:05 < kanzure> i bump into him at random conferences 21:05 < yashgaroth> yeah I think he was in town for the experimental bio conference 21:06 < kanzure> huh? 21:06 < kanzure> did you just bump into him at a bar? 21:06 < Juul> i think i may have found a forgotten room at stanford that i can occupy and use as a bedroom 21:06 < yashgaroth> some biotech networking thing that happened to coincide with the conference 21:06 < kanzure> yashgaroth: i was gonna say.. if you ran into him at a bar then you are drinking too much hahah 21:07 < kanzure> like when your social networks start expanding that much 21:07 < kanzure> by random bar hopping. yeah.. 21:07 < yashgaroth> heh no, though it was at a brewery...they like to have the events at breweries 21:11 < klafka> when is the diybio thing happening? 21:12 < kanzure> june 12-17ish 21:12 < kanzure> there will be a pow-wow on the 16th for non-attendees 21:13 < yashgaroth> damn right 21:21 < klafka> cool 21:27 < Juul> "Venter, cracker of the human genome code" 21:27 < Juul> wut 21:27 < kanzure> hahah 21:27 < kanzure> cracka 21:27 < kanzure> "In the 90s, this totally l33t white cracka totally busted up the human genome" 21:27 < Juul> aw yis 21:33 < klafka> LOL 21:39 < klafka> how do you specify a branch whe you do a git pull ? 21:39 < kanzure> git pull origin branchname 21:41 -!- jmil [~jmil@c-68-81-252-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: jmil] 21:52 < klafka> ta 22:02 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-93-18-64.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:22 < kanzure> battelle is an odd organization 22:22 < kanzure> why are they a nonprofit? 22:27 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-93-18-64.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:28 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-93-18-64.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:34 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-67-163-157-246.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:44 < kanzure> j/win 7 22:44 < kanzure> JIDOKJK 22:44 < kanzure> jrayhawk: you didn't see that 22:45 -!- Lucas_ [44c1135b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.193.19.91] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:23 -!- Lucas_ [44c1135b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.193.19.91] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:25 -!- Juul [~Juul@171.66.172.253] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Fri May 04 00:00:00 2012