--- Log opened Wed May 23 00:00:18 2012 00:04 -!- Steel__ [43f624a5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.246.36.165] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:04 -!- Steel__ [43f624a5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.246.36.165] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:51 -!- mensch [~mensch@c-24-63-135-252.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:04 -!- Steel__ [43f624a5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.246.36.165] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:21 < fenn> the accuracy of positioning systems is very much the same as in "design of accurate instruments" from 1906, with the addition of interferometers 01:21 < kanzure> nmz787: are you around 01:22 < kanzure> <-- is actually sleeping. don't mind me. 01:24 < fenn> anyway the first page of the article is about how resolution and accuracy are different things, and then goes on to talk about accuracy, whereas what we are concerned with is more repeatability and resolution 01:38 < Utopiah> kanzure: funny GoogleGroup on brain-training, I asked the very same kind of question during the last local LessWrong meetup, basically are all those brain exercises worth the investment 01:51 < fenn> well, are they? 01:52 < fenn> people do all kinds of pointless things 01:52 < fenn> also how does it compare to the same amount of {time,effort} physical exercise 01:53 < fenn> huh. http://quantified-mind.com 01:55 < fenn> what the hell. i assumed they abandoned the project because there hasn't been any activity on the cognistats group 01:56 < Utopiah> looks clean but again, no idea how those exercises generalize or not 01:59 < fenn> neither does anybody, but at least it's a measure of *something* 01:59 < fenn> if piracetam improves your performance on cognitive tests XYZ you can t least say it does something instead of nothing 01:59 < fenn> s/t/at/ 02:02 < fenn> also, i dont see how to download my data, which ought to be the MOST important thing on here. lumosity already does most of these tests 02:03 < fenn> it's kind of annoying they have these pre-set experiments like "coffee experiment" or "butter experiment" 02:09 < fenn> ah you can create your own experiment 03:02 -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-66-27-117-179.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:37 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:20 -!- Thorbinator1 [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:22 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:46 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:56 -!- chris_99 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:09 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-71-236-101-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:40 < delinquentme> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/08/armys-vaccine-plan-inject-troops-with-gas-propelled-electro-charged-dna/?utm_source=Contextly&utm_medium=RelatedLinks&utm_campaign=Previous 05:40 < delinquentme> gene gun being used for troop inoculations 06:10 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-71-236-101-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:43 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:53 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:54 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:03 < kanzure> 63 shortcuts/min. a bit better? 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do you mean you want to edit the source code 12:02 < delinquentme> im trying to build up an array of hashes like the bottom one .. and having some difficults 12:03 < delinquentme> im not 100% sure on the issue myself yet .. I was sure that was the issue 10 mins ago :P 12:05 < kanzure> are you saying that "i have source code, i don't want to manually edit it, and it needs to look like the second one" 12:14 < Steel2> kanzure, you see the article on darpa today? 12:15 < Steel2> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/05/living-foundries/ 12:16 < kanzure> no, i haven't read it, but it's probably about the synthetic biology grant they were looking to do a while back 12:17 < delinquentme> Steel2, yeah i saw that too .. i thought the one I read was dated 2011 though 12:18 < delinquentme> basically kanzure I need to build up some data that is *kinda* like JSON but not quite >> http://pastie.org/3956913 12:19 < delinquentme> I've got ruby code building up hashes .. but in the process of building up the hashes the nodes[x] gets enclosed in " " 12:19 < Steel2> found a generic grant for eeg/neuroscience type research 12:20 < kanzure> eeg is lame. prove to me i'm wrong. 12:21 < kanzure> delinquentme: yeah looks like split, gsub, etc. would work best here 12:21 < Steel2> lame is subjective :P 12:35 -!- _sol_ [Sol@c-174-57-58-11.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:04 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-71-236-101-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:20 -!- Steel2 [81a14847@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.161.72.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:43 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-175-68.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:21 -!- augur_ is now known as augur 14:39 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:01 -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-66-27-117-179.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:15 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:18 < nmz787> kanzure: https://ipo.llnl.gov/?q=technologies-microwave_heating_of_microfluidics 15:19 < kanzure> "The method heats samples in a focused area within a microfluidic channel on miniaturized chips. The microwave heating device is composed of a waveguide or microstrip transmission line embedded in a microfluidic channel." 15:19 < kanzure> i was hoping for lasers. 15:20 < nmz787> http://cuawebserver.mit.edu/Pages/Research/Report/Page.aspx?ReportId=8741 15:20 < nmz787> which is really http://iopscience.iop.org/1367-2630/10/6/063005/pdf/njp8_6_063005.pdf 15:22 -!- SDr is now known as Nihil 15:23 -!- Nihil is now known as Guest91351 15:24 -!- Guest91351 is now known as nihil__ 15:26 -!- calango [~dnm@pdpc/supporter/active/calango] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:35 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-175-68.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:36 -!- splicer [~ubuntu@c83-255-190-140.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:50 -!- chris_99 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:07 < nmz787> Photovoltaic Retinal Prosthesis With High Pixel Density http://webvision.med.utah.edu/2012/05/photovoltaic-retinal-prosthesis-with-high-pixel-density/ 16:07 -!- Mikoangelo [~Mikael@78.157.118.97] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:07 -!- Mikoangelo [~Mikael@78.157.118.97] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:09 -!- NonFish[ [~lurking@99.115.137.128] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:13 -!- NonFish_ [~lurking@adsl-99-115-137-128.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:13 -!- NonFish[ is now known as NonFish_ 16:15 < nmz787> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroreceptor 16:15 < nmz787> we should just use biologics for some microfluidics... existenz style. 16:27 -!- nihil__ is now known as SDr 16:41 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:41 -!- nuba [~nuba@pauleira.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:54 -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:59 -!- SDragon [SDr@cpc10-dals18-2-0-cust809.hari.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:59 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:59 -!- SDragon is now known as SDr 16:59 -!- SDr [SDr@cpc10-dals18-2-0-cust809.hari.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Changing host] 16:59 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:07 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:10 -!- nuba [~nuba@pauleira.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:23 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11 < kanzure> diego rey? 18:13 < kanzure> http://geniachip.com/ 18:16 < nmz787> oO 18:17 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:25 -!- splicer [~ubuntu@c83-255-190-140.bredband.comhem.se] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:56 -!- strages_work [~c6740838@dev.throwthemind.com] has quit [Quit: CGI:IRC (Session timeout)] 19:19 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-79-122.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:28 < nmz787> kanzure: what freqs does transcranial magnetic stimulation work in, whats the hi-res version/system you've mentioned recently? 19:29 < kanzure> you're probably thinking about the ultrasound stimulation stuff i was mentioning 19:30 < kanzure> superkuh: maybe you can give better insight into rTMS than i can 19:34 < superkuh> It is pulsed. The pulse type varies. But often it is underdamped. Anyway, the fwhm lasts only some ~hundred of microsecond so the fft decomposition of the frequency doesn't have too high freq components (100Mhz). 19:35 < superkuh> Unless you mean the repetition rate. That depends on the goal (excitation or inhibition) and the type of tissues. 19:35 < superkuh> Under tens of hertz, usually. 19:36 -!- Jora [~Jora@unaffiliated/jora] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:43 < nmz787> so you're saying the freq of the pulse, not the duty rate, is mainly 100MHz or that's just a harmonic? 19:46 < superkuh> That is just an guess of some of the higher harmonics required. 19:46 < superkuh> It'd be better to speak of the length of the pulse and the repetition rate. 19:49 < nmz787> so you're saying its literally just a binary on/off pulse, not a train or multiple periods of some wave? 19:54 < superkuh> In most devices. If they are overdamped. If they are underdamped then a single pulse will have a period and decay within a few cycles for most designs. 19:55 < superkuh> It's not a square wave or anything, but if it's underdamped I think calling it binary on/off is fine. 20:06 -!- calango [~dnm@pdpc/supporter/active/calango] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:09 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:13 -!- Jora [~Jora@unaffiliated/jora] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:30 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:44 -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-67-96-196.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:58 -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-67-96-196.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:05 -!- mensch [~mensch@c-24-63-135-252.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:09 -!- srangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:09 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:09 -!- srangewarp is now known as strangewarp 21:29 -!- srangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:29 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:29 -!- srangewarp is now known as strangewarp 21:32 < joshcryer> Willow Garage has done some uploads: http://youtu.be/aNo8uBQWghs 21:32 < joshcryer> Part 2: http://youtu.be/3wnab6AjAwc 21:33 < joshcryer> Part 3: http://youtu.be/g9WHxOpAUns 21:34 -!- srangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:36 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:37 -!- srangewarp is now known as strangewarp 21:58 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:14 < kanzure> " say this because MS refuses to say what patents are involved when approaching companies unless they sign an NDA, and companies that pay just do so out of pure fear, although some actually reuse." 22:45 -!- SDr [SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:19 -!- Thorbinator1 [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:21 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:34 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:34 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Thu May 24 00:00:19 2012