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00:14 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone,
00:16 < joshcryer> http://youtu.be/MVekrZ-H5Pc
00:19 < joshcryer> Reddit H+ stuff is so meh. Where are all the H+'ers hanging out?
00:19 < JayDugger> Wow...let's take Stiegler's "The Gentle Seduction" and turn it into a cheap knock-off of every plague-based disaster story.
00:19 < JayDugger> In their labs, inventing the future. ;)
00:20 < joshcryer> Ha
00:20 < JayDugger> One cheap concept deserved another.
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01:15 < AdrianG> Good morning.
01:20 < JayDugger> Good morning, AdrianG.
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01:55 < rdb>  /8
01:55 < rdb> apologies :-x
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02:09 < Mokbortolan_> nmz787: you in Portland?
02:21 < Mokbortolan_> http://cbst.ucdavis.edu/research/internal-projects/nir-brain-imaging/a-novel-method-for-fast-imaging-of-brain-function-non-invasively-with-light.pdf/
02:28 < nmz787> yeo
02:28 < nmz787> yep
02:29 < nmz787> met up with jrayhawk and his bro earlier
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08:39 < kanzure> joshcryer: all the hplussers are hanging out here, what are you talking about? reddit is not the place you think it is.
08:40 < kanzure> maybe all you redditors should try a r/hplusroadmap but i'm not convinced
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08:46 < archels> Mokbortolan_1: Why the heck didn't they apply some visual stimulus, measuring in V1, to determine the point spread function?
08:46 < kanzure> yashterdam: yo.
08:57 < yashterdam> oh hi
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09:27 < ParahSailin> what is the memory footprint of the v8 runtime
09:27 < ParahSailin> im guessing it's out of range for "embedded" scale hardware?
09:27 < kanzure> i haven't tried to run it on an embedded system
09:27 < kanzure> also: this explains everything (stopped clock illusion) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronostasis
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11:00 < kanzure> shin-to: hi
11:00 < shin-to> hey there
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11:28 < kanzure> Alegend45: hello
11:28 < Alegend45> Hey.
11:28 < kanzure> so what is your background if it isn't synthetic biology?
11:28 < Alegend45> Computer programming.
11:28 < kanzure> what kinds of programming?
11:29 < Alegend45> Assembly, C, C++, that sort of things.
11:29 < kanzure> cool
11:29 < kanzure> are you near a (bio) hackerspace?
11:29 < Alegend45> I don't know.
11:29 < kanzure> where do you live?
11:29 < Alegend45> I doubt it, because I lived in Texas.
11:29 < Alegend45> *live
11:29 < kanzure> which part of texas?
11:29 < Alegend45> North Texas.
11:30 < kanzure> i'm in austin
11:30 < Alegend45> Ah.
11:30 < kanzure> there's a biohackerspace in houston
11:30 < kanzure> (arc)
11:30 < kanzure> which would be a good first step if you wanted to meet others actively labbing around; but maybe you don't want to do labwork stuff
11:30 < Alegend45> Well, I can't afford the gas to go to Dallas, much less Houston.
11:31 < Alegend45> Well, I mostly just want to create things that theoretically might work.
11:31 < Alegend45> I have nothing to test them with.
11:31 < kanzure> nothing to test what? sorry
11:32 < Alegend45> Genes I make.
11:33 < kanzure> if you want to do transgenic bacteria then you basically have to get good at culturing, pcr, transformation, incubation, and really good at ordering synthetic dna from the interwebs
11:34 < kanzure> it sounds like you would probably benefit the most from the carolina k12 bacterial transformation kits
11:34 < Alegend45> How much do those cost?
11:34 < kanzure> they are mostly solid to high school students but they serve a good purpose with teaching transformation
11:34 < Alegend45> Well, I'm just in middle-school.
11:34 < kanzure> you should drop out
11:34 < Alegend45> Then again, I do know high-school algebra.
11:34 < Alegend45> Why?
11:34 < kanzure> w.carolina.com/product/living+organisms/prokaryotes/bacteria+kits/bacterial+transformation+kit.do?
11:34 < kanzure> oops
11:35 < kanzure> http://www.carolina.com/product/living+organisms/prokaryotes/bacteria+kits/bacterial+transformation+kit.do
11:35 < kanzure> so <$100 in this case
11:35 < Alegend45> Still too much!
11:35 < Alegend45> Which is why I said I'd rather have other people test my stuff.
11:35 < kanzure> would you be willing to do programming work to get paid?
11:36 < Alegend45> Well, I can only do command-line programs effectively.
11:36 < kanzure> ah, well, there's a lot of labor involved and it would be hard to get people to test your stuff for free
11:36 < kanzure> Alegend45: i don't understand- is that just because you're disinterested in other software?
11:36 < Alegend45> No.
11:37 < Alegend45> It's because I just don't have the skills necessary to wrap my head around programming a GUI...
11:37 < Alegend45> O_O
11:37 < kanzure> oh, there are many projects that don't require GUIs but cout as more than shell programs
11:37 < kanzure> *count
11:38 < kanzure> personally i hate GUIs :)
11:38 < Alegend45> Hmm... Although I might be able to muster up enough strength to do a Photoshop-esque program, but without almost all of the features.
11:38 < kanzure> photoshop is pretty extreme
11:38 < Alegend45> I know.
11:38 < Alegend45> At least I could do layers.
11:39 < kanzure> so you are a windows user?
11:39 < Alegend45> Right now, yes.
11:39 < Alegend45> I like Linux alot though.
11:39 < kanzure> are you a pokemon master?
11:39 < Alegend45> GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALL! Sadly, no.
11:40 < kanzure> okay, i see
11:40 < kanzure> biology projects can be cheap but there is definitely a minimum ost
11:40 < kanzure> *cost
11:41 < kanzure> programming is very very valuable these days and making money over the interwebs is definitely doable, especially enough to buy a $100 kit or something
11:41 < kanzure> photoshop would be worth 100000000000000 kits, but you just need one ;)
11:41 < Alegend45> Yeah, I have $20 already on a freelancing site.
11:41 < kanzure> is it vworker?
11:42 < Alegend45> No, it's freelancer.com
11:42 < kanzure> i hired two developers the other day, i'm probably going to pay them through odesk
11:42 < Alegend45> What for?
11:42 < kanzure> mobile apps
11:42 < Alegend45> Ah. iPhone development is a pain in the ass indeed.
11:42 < kanzure> or, because i don't want to deal with the paperwork and these freelancing sites do it for me
11:43 < Alegend45> True. LOL
11:43 < kanzure> yeah, they are pretty good at iOS development so it works out for me
11:43 < kanzure> ok. hrm. so $20 isn't enough to buy that kit.
11:43 < Alegend45> Yeah. Gotta have around $80.
11:46 < kanzure> what was the $20 job?
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11:49 < Alegend45> Well, it was $30 dollars, but $5 were taken by the site, and $5 were used for an exam.
11:49 < Alegend45> On the site.
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16:22 < kanzure> nifty http://httpbin.org/
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17:58  * ybit whacks kanzure with a trout
17:59 < kanzure> i am now whacked
17:59 < ybit> yes you are
18:01 < ybit> kanzure: what do you mostly work with?
18:01 < ybit> python based libraries/
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18:10 < kanzure> ybit: i seem to be more-often-paid for ruby/javascript stuff, but i like making my personal stuff in python
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18:57 < brownies> python? really?
19:03 < ybit> brownies: why is that hard to believe?
19:03 < kanzure> well i certainly don't enjoy writing my personal stuff in javascript
19:05 < brownies> ybit: because 80% of the time, kanzure is ranting on about JS
19:05 < kanzure> brownies: why would i complain about things that are working?
19:06 < kanzure> observation bias or something
19:06 < kanzure> or, erm, reporting bias
19:06 < brownies> JS-is-shit bias
19:06 < kanzure> that's not a bias, that's a <insert joke here>
19:07 < kanzure> statement of fact?
19:09  * ybit is lucky to work with JS daily
19:09 < kanzure> are you at least writing coffeescript?
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19:09 < ybit> Ruby is nice but I'm trying to be the company's go to JS guy
19:09 < kanzure> then you should probably memorize quirksmode.org's content
19:10 < kanzure> and possibly mdn, but most of that doesn't require memorization
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20:50 < kanzure> robesP_air: hi
20:53 < robesP_air> hi
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22:01 < superkuh> How big is library genesis in total?
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23:28 < Mokbortolan_1> http://www.trans-cranial.com/
23:28 < Mokbortolan_1> Easy to use, precise and safe transcranial stimulator devices for tDCS applications
23:28 < Mokbortolan_1> " "
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23:51 < kanzure> "tDCS differs from other brain stimulation techniques such as transcranial electrical stimulation (TES) and transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS), by not inducing neuronal action potentials."
23:52 < kanzure> i guess you have to twist your definition of "not inducing"
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