--- Log opened Wed Jul 18 00:00:12 2012 00:08 < nmz787> kanzure: are you up? 00:11 < kanzure> yes 00:11 < kanzure> i am fighting with qemu-kvm and wireless bridging 00:17 < nmz787> how can I find where this code originally showed up, or at least the earliest mention of it? 00:17 < nmz787> http://www.math.harvard.edu/computing/python/pi.py 00:18 < nmz787> i googled the line "k, a, b, a1, b1 = 2L, 4L, 1L, 12L, 4L" 00:18 < nmz787> got 274000 results tho 00:19 < nmz787> the date shows up, but don't know how to tell google to sort by that 00:19 < Mokbortolan_1> "a" gets me 25 billion results 00:20 < nmz787> Mokbortolan_1: why would you search "a" 00:21 < Mokbortolan_1> to marvel at the scale of the search index? 00:22 < nmz787> too bad I didn't get to meet you while I was in your area 00:22 < kanzure> i think it was originally a 2005 ruby file 00:22 < nmz787> we had a nice drive out to Tillamook and down the Three Capes scenic route for a while, then over to Salem and back 00:22 < kanzure> but this just looks like pi by continued fractions 00:23 < nmz787> continued fractions aka infinite series? 00:23 < nmz787> ? 00:23 < kanzure> http://chesswanks.com/pxp/cfpi.html 00:23 < kanzure> http://cs.utsa.edu/~wagner/pi/ruby/pi_works.html 00:25 < kanzure> anyway it also looks like your python snippit was in some book, because everyone copies it 00:26 < nmz787> the utsa is a good link, thanks 00:27 < kanzure> it's possibly from ABC Programmer's Handbook, by Geurts, Meertens & Pemberton 00:30 < Mokbortolan_1> tillamook is nice 00:31 < Mokbortolan_1> can't say the same for Salem 00:31 < Mokbortolan_1> but i've only been there once 00:31 < Mokbortolan_1> to a prison 00:31 < nmz787> kanzure: fabrice bellard set a pi record a few years ago with home PC hardware... also wrote QEMU... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabrice_Bellard 00:31 < nmz787> oO 00:32 < kanzure> ah right he did that thing that anselm is reverse engineering 00:32 < Mokbortolan_1> interviewing for a job :p 00:33 < kanzure> https://github.com/levskaya/jslinux-deobfuscated 00:58 < nmz787> yeah didn't see much of Salem, just passed through, saw a nice train loaded with freshcut logs though, made it feel very western! 00:59 -!- chevbird [~chevbird@209-6-62-26.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:26 < nmz787> kanzure: do you think these prices look good http://vpscheap.net/linux.aspx 01:26 < nmz787> ? 01:27 < nmz787> 3.99/month seems pretty good 01:28 < nmz787> i don't think i'd need much space for a personal web page/site... and if I ever needed a temp file storage 15Mbit/s is OK 01:28 < nmz787> more than most upload speeds I have for nets 01:33 -!- wizzrobes [~usorid@c-76-23-254-105.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 01:36 < kanzure> nmz787: i think jrayhawk might be able to hook you up with better if you ask nicely, or because of your nanoengineer contributions, you can just use your gnusha account or something 01:38 < nmz787> well i want to host my personal website 01:38 < nmz787> have you seen this http://synbioleap.org/ 01:38 -!- lichen_ is now known as lichen 01:39 < nmz787> i was actually looking into the nanoengineer code i was playing with earlier today 01:40 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@173-163-203-241-Richmond.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:40 < kanzure> http://www.excentral.org/archives/2011/02/24/android-repo-mirroring 01:40 < kanzure> bleh 14 GB of git repositories 01:40 < kanzure> all i want to do is apply a patch to support eth0 :( 01:45 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@173-163-203-241-Richmond.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:46 < nmz787> doesn't android have eth0? 01:47 < kanzure> android-x86 by default does not have eth0 compiled i 01:47 < kanzure> *in 01:48 < kanzure> but there are some builds here http://tabletsx86.org/ (so far the eth0 builds haven't worked for me) 01:49 < nmz787> hmm, are you looking to setup an x86 system to do app testing? 01:49 < nmz787> so it's fast? 01:49 < kanzure> the default android emulator is horribly slow 01:50 < kanzure> the latest version in r17 is supposed to auto-detect kvm support but i haven't tried that yet 01:51 < kanzure> i'm not exactly testing apps.. https://github.com/kanzure/android-market-api-py/branches https://github.com/kanzure/AxmlParserPY/branches 01:57 < nmz787> do you run 32bit or 64 linux? 01:58 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@212.159.112.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:00 -!- archels [~foo@sascha.esrac.ele.tue.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:04 -!- AdrianG [~ircname@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:07 < kanzure> nmz787: 64bit 02:09 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@173-163-203-241-Richmond.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:09 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:10 -!- Mokbortolan_1 [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:11 -!- archels [~foo@sascha.esrac.ele.tue.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:13 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@212.159.112.196] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:17 < kanzure> "Starting VirtualBox kernel modulesNo suitable module for running kernel found ... failed!" 02:17 < kanzure> blaaaah 03:16 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@86.38.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:39 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@212.159.112.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:01 -!- AdrianG_ [~ircname@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:02 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@212.159.112.196] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:06 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:27 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:46 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:48 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:55 <@fenn> wow i had no idea anselm reverse-engineered jslinux 04:57 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:19 <@fenn> man talk about medicalization of a non-issue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen_persisting_perception_disorder 05:19 <@fenn> the realization that you're made out of meat is considered a medical problem with no cure, apparently 05:20 <@fenn> "drug usage will open sensory pathways that result in the individual becoming more aware of any visual disturbances that may have simply not been noticed before the incidence of drug use. As for root cause of visual snow, some theories suggest that it is the result of thermal noise in the visual cortex" sounds about right to me 05:22 <@fenn> AdrianG_: what the hell is "i have increased risks of HPPD" supposed to mean? 05:35 -!- AlonzoTG [~atg@dsl092-168-049.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:50 -!- AlonzoTG [~atg@dsl092-168-049.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:51 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:52 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:42 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:42 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:10 <@fenn> this all sounds very similar to what happened to me last year http://www.hypomanicedge.com/blog/blog.htm 07:11 <@fenn> "enlarged amygdales" eh 07:15 <@fenn> "total lack of judgement" is pretty harsh 07:20 <@fenn> Jobs envisioned Apple as a religious movement, a holy crusade against "Big Brother" (the monolithic IBM). He even created a job description for an "Evangelist." No corporation had ever had an evangelist before 07:45 < Urchin> well, he was a new-age cultist himself 07:48 <@fenn> the comment wasn't specifically about steve jobs, i just thought it was funny nobody had ever used that job title before, and now it's everywhere and taken for granted 08:04 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:17 -!- azonenberg [~azonenber@2001:470:888b:2:206:70ff:fe01:46] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:18 < Urchin> it's a cargo cult following of the concept of cultism, lol 08:22 -!- Thorbinator1 [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:23 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:31 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:34 < kanzure> boop 08:40 < kanzure> so pmetzger claims to be porting nanoengineer to osx mountain lion https://github.com/pmetzger/nanoengineer 08:46 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@173-163-203-241-richmond.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:02 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-34.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:02 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-34.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has quit [Changing host] 09:02 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:26 < foucist> OMG.. check out those amazing pictures.. nano pr0n! animated pr0n! 09:26 < foucist> swirlygigs and thingamajigs 09:26 < foucist> fap fap *splode* 09:27 < foucist> kanzure: what os does it currently work best on? 09:32 < kanzure> foucist: http://github.com/kanzure/nanoengineer#installing 09:55 < foucist> kanzure: yeah i read that, "Nanoengineer is a tricky beast to install. Compiling and running from source on Linux is the current ongoing project." implies it doesn't install too well on linux 09:55 < foucist> hence my question 09:55 < kanzure> you should install the chroot to get it to work on linux 09:56 < kanzure> but most people would not consider "some random chroot" to be a valid release/distribution mechanism ;) 09:58 < archels> kanzure: consider distributing a virtual machine image. I've seen it in other places for complex installs which might scare off users. 09:59 < kanzure> i think i should just fix nanoengineer instead 09:59 < archels> Well, if that works, then run with that, sure. :) 09:59 < archels> bbl 10:04 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-74-37.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:06 < eudoxia> ah, yes, installing nanoengineer 10:06 < eudoxia> that was always a sad experience for me 10:06 < kanzure> well, hopefully my instructions will work for you 10:28 < nmz787> kanzure: what's the best youtube download site? 10:30 < nmz787> well i guess keepvid is working 10:32 < nmz787> fenn: removed your youtube comment on that langton video, changed the wording in the description! 10:35 < kanzure> i use youtube-dl and jrayhawk swears by cclive 10:41 < foucist> kanzure: vagrant ftw 10:48 -!- exiff [~gennosuke@unaffiliated/exiff] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:48 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@173-163-203-241-richmond.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:51 < AdrianG_> fenn: family history of such risks, I dont want to end up in an asylum 10:51 < AdrianG_> HPPD = just another name for psychosis 10:53 < kanzure> exiff: hello 10:53 < exiff> Hi 10:53 < kanzure> are you a jpeg header? 10:54 < exiff> only on saturdays 10:54 < kanzure> hmm 11:01 -!- AdrianG_ is now known as AdrianG 11:31 -!- azonenberg [~azonenber@2001:470:888b:2:206:70ff:fe01:46] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:40 < kanzure> "We'll be flying four of our High Rack balloon platforms to carry the thousand student experiments 11:40 < kanzure> to 100,000 feet" 11:40 < kanzure> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1569698176/1000-student-projects-to-the-edge-of-space 11:44 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-74-37.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:47 < kanzure> https://github.com/zolrath/wemux/ hrmm i guess this beats struggling to setup shared sessions with screen 11:48 < kanzure> so, i found some old content from open science sumit 2011 that i hadn't uploaded 11:48 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/open-science-summit-2011/ 11:48 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/open-science-summit-2011/ <-- mostly slides 12:01 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:02 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:11 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@86.38.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:19 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@86.38.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:24 -!- SDragon [~SDr@ec2-79-125-77-70.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:25 -!- srangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-200-47.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:27 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:29 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:29 -!- jennicde_ [jenze@ec2-107-21-75-189.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:33 -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-67-167-95.shv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:34 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: strangewarp, SDr, jennicde 12:34 -!- srangewarp is now known as strangewarp 12:37 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@86.38.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:37 -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-67-175-61.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:57 -!- Tukotih [~Tukotih@81-231-85-111-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:05 -!- SDragon is now known as SDr 13:05 -!- SDr [~SDr@ec2-79-125-77-70.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Changing host] 13:05 -!- SDr [~SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:18 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@86.38.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:22 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:23 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:24 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:27 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:34 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:38 -!- AdrianG is now known as QuantumAdrian 13:40 -!- _sol_ [~Sol@c-174-57-58-11.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:41 < kanzure> fail.. 23andme's spam campaign for their "survey" doesn't link to a survey 13:43 < Lemminkainen_> H+ hate crime: http://io9.com/5926587/what-may-be-the-worlds-first-cybernetic-hate-crime-unfolds-in-french-mcdonalds 13:43 < kanzure> is steve mann just brewing up publicity again? 13:43 < kanzure> io9 is that wired trash site, right? 13:44 < Lemminkainen_> the incident itself isn't that interesting 13:44 < Lemminkainen_> but the implications are 13:48 -!- wizzrobes [~usorid@c-76-23-254-105.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:48 < kanzure> imho there was a better discussion about that in the HN page that quoted "Years and years ago, when the earth was new, I was an undergrad at MIT and then-Media-Lab-graduate-student Mann" 13:49 < kanzure> but, i can't remember the article id 13:49 -!- Juul [~Juul@port80.ds1-vo.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:49 < kanzure> Juul: hi 13:49 < Juul> kanzure, hi 13:50 * Juul is in denmark 13:51 < kanzure> you should go find yashgaroth? 13:51 < kanzure> i guess that's a ways 13:51 < kanzure> ten hours or something 13:52 < Juul> where is he? 13:53 < kanzure> netherlands somewhere 13:54 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:03 -!- QuantumAdrian is now known as AdrianG 14:10 < Juul> hm netherlands is close culturally but spatially a bit far away 14:13 -!- exiff [~gennosuke@unaffiliated/exiff] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:33 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:49 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:23 -!- charlie [u6938@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-myzmcgbmrqfnkueu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:24 -!- Steel2 [ad42e490@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.66.228.144] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:24 -!- charlie is now known as Guest10968 15:24 -!- Guest10968 is now known as charlieschwa 15:25 < Steel2> hmmm 15:25 < Steel2> wonder when chev's getting in 15:37 -!- azonenberg [~azonenber@2001:470:888b:2:206:70ff:fe01:46] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:54 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:57 -!- azonenberg [~azonenber@2001:470:888b:2:206:70ff:fe01:46] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:05 -!- Juul [~Juul@port80.ds1-vo.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:08 -!- OrphanSlayer_ [~IceChat9@cpe-174-109-027-034.nc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:08 < OrphanSlayer_> hi 16:08 < OrphanSlayer_> "God Particle discovered" Checkmate, athiests. Checkmate. 16:10 < OrphanSlayer_> well, another dead chat' 16:10 < OrphanSlayer_> fucking newfags 16:10 < kanzure> OrphanSlayer_: you once asked me what hplusroadmap is 16:10 < OrphanSlayer_> yes i did 16:10 < OrphanSlayer_> I see from the topic now 16:10 < kanzure> hplusroadmap is everywhere, it is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, or when go to church or when you pay your taxes. 16:11 < OrphanSlayer_> is it like herpes? 16:11 < kanzure> it is a distant cousin 16:11 < OrphanSlayer_> i knew it! 16:11 < OrphanSlayer_> so have you done any bod-mods? 16:13 < OrphanSlayer_> it appears that this chat is full of newfags and posers. Im out. 16:13 -!- OrphanSlayer_ [~IceChat9@cpe-174-109-027-034.nc.res.rr.com] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 16:16 < Sanqui> what 16:16 < ThomasEgi> it might be only my personal impression. but did he sorta.. punchlined himself into the face and out of the channel with his last sentence? 16:16 < Sanqui> he set up the door so it would kick him 16:23 < Steel2> welp. 16:23 < Steel2> interesting dude. 16:45 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:50 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:58 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:34 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:38 < kanzure> another pcr thing http://www.arduino.si/blog 18:35 < Steel2> fuu, where is chevrette. 18:56 -!- klafka [~textual@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:06 < wizzrobes> The higgs was some scalar field that 'had to' exist because of something to do with electroweak symmetry breaking 19:06 < wizzrobes> I can only wildly imagine why some dude wrote a book on it and titled it the "God Particle" 19:22 < AlonzoTG> yeah, the higs doesn't usually exist, but rather the fact that it can be created is more direct evidence that the field actually does exist which was, previously, just speculation. 19:28 < wizzrobes> http://motls.blogspot.com/2012/07/why-there-had-to-be-higgs-boson.html 19:39 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:18 -!- Tukotih [~Tukotih@81-231-85-111-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:19 -!- qnm_ [~robsharp@203.48.101.90] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:28 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: DayZ] 20:42 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:42 -!- qnm_ [~robsharp@203.48.101.90] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20:42 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:48 < jrayhawk> nmz787, kanzure: libquvi is an ecosystem of video download modules written in c (with clive and cclive as clients), and get-flash-videos is a similar ecosystem in perl. they have different support coverage, and are typically both worth keeping around. 20:50 < jrayhawk> youtube-dl is a smaller ecosystem in python, presumably because it is poorly named 21:55 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:55 -!- Juul [~Juul@port80.ds1-vo.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:16 -!- Juul [~Juul@port80.ds1-vo.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:21 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer] 22:21 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Thu Jul 19 00:00:13 2012