--- Log opened Sat Jul 21 00:00:15 2012 00:10 -!- klafka [~textual@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:16 < Sanqui> logs of this channel are public? 00:21 < JayDugger> Yes, at http://gnusha.org/logs/. 00:24 < Sanqui> has somebody megahalized them yet 00:24 < JayDugger> With whom do you think you converse? 00:25 < Sanqui> touché 00:25 < JayDugger> Real humans lie fast asleep. We chatbots lie in their place. 00:26 < Sanqui> seems like a step up from megahal to me 00:27 -!- Tukotih [~Tukotih@81-231-85-111-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:28 < JayDugger> Holy crap! I'm the human? When did that happen? 00:29 < Sanqui> go back to sleep 00:30 < JayDugger> Ok, I will go back to sleep. Bye-bye. 00:30 -!- azonenberg [~azonenber@2001:470:888b:2:206:70ff:fe01:46] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:30 < Sanqui> gnite! 00:40 -!- wizzorbs [~usorid@c-76-23-254-105.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 00:54 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:54 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:57 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:23 -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-67-175-61.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:53 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-5c.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:53 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-5c.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has quit [Changing host] 01:53 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:31 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-72-83-254-253.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:32 < Burninate> Would-be cyborgs, inventors, start your engines: http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/abrash/why-you-wont-see-hard-ar-anytime-soon/ 02:34 < Burninate> also, digital life: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/science/in-a-first-an-entire-organism-is-simulated-by-software.html?_r=1&hp 02:47 < sylph_mako> Burninate, I wouldn't fund hard ar, ostensibly, I will /always/ want to see reality unfiltered. 02:49 < Burninate> I give it five years of Princess Leia Hologram communication and you'll break 02:50 < Burninate> I'm still not quite sure I understand the model for how focusing is supposed to work with 'soft AR' 02:51 < sylph_mako> I've just obsessed over Virtual Retina Displays, as far as I know they actively monitor the eye's lens? 02:55 < sylph_mako> The other day I realized those ugly colored blotches that sometimes manifest to the side of my fovea were my blind spots. What was happening was the action of the system that filters them out of awareness was being delayed, often happens after physical exertion. Recently I think I've had less and less of my nervous system's limitations hidden from me, and I accepted this new revelation as happily as I accepted the awareness of t 02:55 < sylph_mako> he narrow bandwidth of my sense of touch. 02:55 < ThomasEgi> sylph_mako, unfiltered reality?... i'd love to filter out 99% of all idiots soaring around in reality and replace them by.. i dunno, toasters or so. 02:55 < sylph_mako> Ugly reality is best reality. 02:55 < sylph_mako> Because it is the only reality. 02:55 < ThomasEgi> reality is just your personal preception of "reality" 02:56 < Burninate> Do VRD's require a pair of rapidly spinning mirror wheels for projection? 02:56 -!- OldCoder_ [~OldCoder_@c-69-181-140-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:57 < Burninate> sylph_mako, the WP article on blind spot has a good test image 02:58 < sylph_mako> Burninate, I'll have to refer to it next time the filtration fails and see if they line up. 02:59 < Burninate> "Although the VRD is an output device, the technology lends itself to augmentation with eye tracking or eyegaze systems for input. Eye tracking is currently used in advanced still and video cameras for focusing on the object you wish to record." 02:59 < Burninate> Really? 02:59 < sylph_mako> holy awe. 03:01 < Burninate> wow, that's accurate 03:01 < Burninate> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS#Eye-controlled_focusing 03:02 < Burninate> 2008: ""I have stated numerous times on the Web and at least twice in Tech Tips that it is obvious by now that the omission of ECF in EOS Digital SLRs is a marketing decision, not a technical issue. We get user requests for ECF from time to time, but to be blunt, customer demand so far has been insufficient to justify adding this feature. I'll never say never, but don't hold your breath on this one. " " 03:03 < sylph_mako> Oh. I thought it was measuring the focal distance of the eye lens or something. 03:04 < Burninate> no, just line of gaze and maximize contrast on that area 03:05 < Burninate> or something... phase AF is something I haven't penetrated yet 03:06 < sylph_mako> Um. I feel it should be noted that you could get somewhat hard AR out of a soft ar device by putting a cowl on the outside of the glasses. Like darkening a room before using the projector. 03:08 < Burninate> at the expense of essentially wearing sunglasses 03:08 < Burninate> and darkening everything else 03:09 < Burninate> maybe if normal passthrough mode is (neutral density filter) -> (laser punch-up of natural colors), but if you can do that convincingly you could just to an opaque display 03:09 < Burninate> *do 03:11 -!- OldCoder_ [~OldCoder_@c-69-181-140-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:51 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-92-216-118.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:01 -!- AdrianG_ [~ircname@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:12 -!- azonenberg [~azonenber@2001:470:888b:2:206:70ff:fe01:46] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:32 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:48 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:44 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:50 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:51 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:02 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Read error: Connection refused] 06:06 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:12 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:15 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:17 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:19 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:25 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:29 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:32 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@c-67-166-146-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:11 -!- azonenberg [~azonenber@2001:470:888b:2:206:70ff:fe01:46] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:20 -!- augur [~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:26 -!- augur [~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:55 -!- JayDugger [~duggerj@pool-173-74-81-239.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 08:04 -!- delinquentme [~bob@c-71-236-101-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:12 < archels> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/science/in-a-first-an-entire-organism-is-simulated-by-software.html?_r=1 08:13 -!- augur [~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:14 -!- augur [~augur@c-75-74-129-116.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:14 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:23 < delinquentme> ^^^ 08:46 -!- klafka [~textual@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:54 < delinquentme> Oh man check who it is! 08:54 < delinquentme> klafka, I might be moving to inninois =X 08:54 < delinquentme> illinois ** lol 08:54 < klafka> oh 08:54 < delinquentme> ( cant even spell the place ) 08:54 < klafka> um why? 08:54 < delinquentme> urbana champagne needs a rails programmer with bio interest 08:55 < delinquentme> gotta see about the payscale though 08:55 < klafka> aah 08:55 < klafka> my friend just moved here from UIUC 08:58 -!- klafka1 [~textual@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:59 -!- klafka [~textual@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:59 < klafka1> i'm pretty sure i just got a new job also delinquentme 09:00 < delinquentme> NICE 09:00 < delinquentme> where? 09:00 < delinquentme> doing? 09:01 < klafka1> in SF 09:01 < klafka1> um to start with support and then transition to data science 09:01 < klafka1> it was half way through the interview and they were like 'wouldn't you rather be a data scientist?' 09:01 < klafka1> and i was like... yeah 09:05 -!- delinquentme [~bob@c-71-236-101-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:06 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:07 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:18 -!- delinquentme [~bob@c-71-236-101-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:19 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-15.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:19 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@pppdyn-15.stud-ko.rz-online.net] has quit [Changing host] 09:19 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:24 < delinquentme> winrar 09:26 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:27 < kanzure> no thanks 09:30 < delinquentme> stinking multiple keybaords 09:30 < delinquentme> keyboards! hahah 09:31 < delinquentme> iii cannot wait to have cash to blow on roboots 09:36 < delinquentme> klafka1, the job?? 09:36 < klafka1> yeah 09:43 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:43 -!- exiff [~gennosuke@unaffiliated/exiff] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:59 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:12 -!- azonenberg [~azonenber@2001:470:888b:2:206:70ff:fe01:46] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:18 < klafka1> hey someone get me this paper http://www.cell.com/abstract/S0092-8674%2812%2900776-3 please! 11:21 < kanzure> damn getting bossy... one sec 11:23 < kanzure> klafka1: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/A%20Whole-Cell%20Computational%20Model%20Predicts%20Phenotype%20from%20Genotype.pdf 11:23 < klafka1> lol 11:23 < klafka1> oh woops 11:23 < klafka1> i remember markus covert 11:23 < klafka1> from palsson's lab 11:23 < klafka1> i wonder if this is using LPs wiuth ODEs 11:24 < kanzure> LPs? 11:24 < kanzure> oh, linear programming 11:24 < kanzure> but the s threw me off 11:45 -!- wizardrobe [~usorid@c-76-23-254-105.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:00 -!- AdrianG_ is now known as AdrianG 12:15 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:19 -!- ParahSailin__ is now known as ParahSailin_ 12:24 -!- azonenberg [~azonenber@2001:470:888b:2:206:70ff:fe01:46] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:25 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:35 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:36 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:01 -!- klafka1 [~textual@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:01 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-92-216-118.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:13 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-92-216-118.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:28 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-92-216-118.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:23 -!- _sol_ [~Sol@c-174-57-58-11.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:15 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-72-83-254-253.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:16 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-72-83-254-253.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:11 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:00 -!- SDr is now known as SDr|RBC 18:06 -!- ianmathwiz7 [~chatzilla@64-91-71-48.stat.centurytel.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:12 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:54 < delinquentme> anyone happen to have the protocol on that kid who was playing with carbon nanotubes? 18:54 < delinquentme> maybe I should just start reading / playing with em 19:13 -!- _sol_ [~Sol@c-174-57-58-11.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:16 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:20 < kanzure> you're only interested because of a recent news announcement? what about all that other easy graphene stuff.. 19:25 -!- Tukotih [~Tukotih@81-231-85-111-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:29 < kanzure> so i'm thinking of sqlalchemy+flask for a project 19:29 < kanzure> someone stop me? or why might this be a bad idea 19:30 < kanzure> mongokit looks like an interesting contender though. 19:34 < kanzure> the problem with flask and quick_orm is that it litters your code with decorators everywhere 19:34 < kanzure> @app.route("/reauth", methods=["GET", "POST"]) 19:34 < kanzure> @login_required 19:34 < kanzure> bleh. 20:01 < brownies> sqlalchemy+flask is a solid combo 20:01 < brownies> does flask have a devise-like plugin yet? i do so hate writing auth systems 20:02 < kanzure> it has https://github.com/maxcountryman/flask-login 20:02 < kanzure> doesn't seem to mention registration 20:02 < brownies> yes, why would you need that 20:03 < kanzure> sometimes i like to pretend that users use my "applications" 20:12 < brownies> i think you can just "import delusions" in python 20:13 < brownies> "from delusions import grandeur" ? i forget the exact syntax 20:14 < kanzure> from __future__ import delusions.grandeur 20:16 < brownies> heh, now *that's* planning for scale! 20:21 -!- Cat4D [182bc9d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.201.210] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:42 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:42 -!- klafka [~textual@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:46 -!- Guest40735 [~quassel@64.31.59.70] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:48 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:58 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:58 -!- strages_shop [~strages@256.makerslocal.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:42 -!- Cat4D [182bc9d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.43.201.210] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:04 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@118-92-216-118.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:07 < kanzure> what's the point of this? http://packages.python.org/Flask-Script/ 22:07 < kanzure> why not just use files? 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