--- Log opened Fri Jul 27 00:00:20 2012 00:00 < jrayhawk> I sure wish I had switchable graphics in mine! 00:01 < kanzure> hrm? switchable? 00:01 < jrayhawk> Yes. As in you can use either. 00:01 < kanzure> is integrated switchable? 00:01 < kanzure> what? 00:14 < kanzure> so it looks like the thinkpads changed their keyboard design recently? 00:19 < kanzure> "Compiling new Android systems requires 16 gigabytes of RAM at compile time. Trying to compile it with 6 gigabytes will end up swapping so much that the system becomes unusable." 00:20 < jrayhawk> good lord why 00:21 < jrayhawk> and no, only the thinkpad edge and the x1 carbon have abnormal keyboards 00:22 < jrayhawk> The Edge also has a glossy screen 00:22 < jrayhawk> it is a travesty 00:37 < brownies> that's a lot of gigabytes 00:44 < kanzure> um... http://devopsangle.com/2012/06/18/dells-new-linux-laptop-built-for-developers-will-query-github-repositories-for-profiles/ 00:45 < kanzure> man i'm really unsure about thinkpads vs. system76. i like system76's concept but where are they getting their laptops from? 00:47 < jrayhawk> Rebranded Acers aren't terrible or anything. 00:47 -!- splicer [~ubuntu@c83-255-190-140.bredband.comhem.se] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:51 < kanzure> jrayhawk: so just to confirm, this isn't the terrible keyboard? http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/laptop/thinkpad/w-series/w530/Thinkpad-w530-datasheet.pdf 00:51 < kanzure> it looks pretty similar to the x1 carbon? http://blog.parts-people.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/X1_standard_06carbon.jpg 00:51 < jrayhawk> oh crap 00:52 < jrayhawk> YOU BASTARDS 00:53 < kanzure> the w520 keyboard looks possibly safe http://macomeq.com.vn/wp-content/plugins/RSSPoster_PRO/cache/3688f_Lenovo-W520_keyboard_sf.jpg 00:53 < jrayhawk> yase 01:00 < jrayhawk> moving sysrq to the bottom row is cute 01:01 < kanzure> side-by-side http://www.flixxy.com/w520-vs-w530-image.jpg 01:01 < jrayhawk> having alt and sysrq right next to eachother is an invitation to disaster 01:03 -!- Mokbortolan_1 [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:04 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:19 < kanzure> welp w520 it is. hah. 02:01 -!- AdrianG_ [~ircname@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:05 -!- AdrianG [~ircname@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:32 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:33 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:51 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:53 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:07 -!- archels [~foo@unaffiliated/archels] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:11 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:18 -!- archels [~foo@sascha.esrac.ele.tue.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:19 -!- exiff [~blue@unaffiliated/exiff] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:35 -!- exiff [~blue@unaffiliated/exiff] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:37 -!- exiff [~blue@dsl-243-62-193.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:37 -!- exiff [~blue@dsl-243-62-193.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Changing host] 03:37 -!- exiff [~blue@unaffiliated/exiff] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:50 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:57 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@39.19.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:17 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@107.51.250.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:24 -!- azonenberg [~azonenber@2001:470:888b:2:206:70ff:fe01:46] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:44 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:46 -!- Mokbortolan_1 [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:59 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00 -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-67-175-61.shv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 06:45 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@ool-457e5cbd.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:11 -!- klafka [~textual@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:21 -!- jmil [~jmil@hive76/member/jmil] has quit [Quit: jmil] 08:02 -!- jmil [~jmil@hive76/member/jmil] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:25 -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-66-27-117-179.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:34 < nmz787> i just installed cm 7.2 stable on my evo 4g, then added tiamat 4.1.0-sbc... it added a few increments to the CPU governor and I think I overclocked it a bit too much 08:34 < nmz787> i didn't even go all the way up :P 08:36 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:50 < kanzure> hrm. 09:01 < nmz787> kanzure: did you end up finding a laptop? 09:12 < nmz787> do vacuum clothes dryers not exist? 09:33 -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-67-175-61.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:34 -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-67-175-61.shv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:37 -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-67-175-61.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:20 < nmz787> so are we building livers yet? 10:20 < nmz787> and what about kidneys? 10:22 < yashgaroth> we've been building kidneys since the '40s 10:23 -!- azonenberg [~azonenber@2001:470:888b:2:206:70ff:fe01:46] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:36 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:38 -!- exiff [~blue@unaffiliated/exiff] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:01 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-46-182.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:07 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-46-182.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:09 -!- exiff [~blue@unaffiliated/exiff] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:11 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:45 -!- shin-to [~shin-to@ulmg-5d847edd.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:48 < nmz787> yashgaroth: nah I mean drop in replacements, can we engineer rejection-free? 11:48 < nmz787> yashgaroth: not metal 11:49 < yashgaroth> oh, then no 11:56 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@gw-ko-kostr.inka-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:56 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@gw-ko-kostr.inka-online.net] has quit [Changing host] 11:56 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:09 < nmz787> jmil: when can you guys print my step dad a new liver and kidney? 12:09 < jmil> nmz787: working on it 12:09 < jmil> but we are unfortunately at the very early stages nmz787 12:09 < nmz787> well, he just prepped for surgery a day or two ago but the liver was too fatty to be used 12:10 < nmz787> so he's still waiting for you to catch up to the donor game (which is pretty horrible) 12:11 < nmz787> jmil: do you know if they've used IPSCs to turn into liver cells? 12:11 < nmz787> or is the liver not homogenous? 12:12 < nmz787> i guess this is encouraging http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/3/82/82ra39.abstract "In Vivo Liver Regeneration Potential of Human Induced Pluripotent Stem Cells from Diverse Origins" 12:13 < jmil> liver differentiation from iPS is very very hard. the albumin expression is still a tiny tiny fraction of what would be desired, for example 12:36 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:38 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:41 < Sanky> what the hell are the olympics?? 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16:04 < ParahSailin__> and that invitrogen only hyped up the danger so that they could create a new market for sybr dyes 16:04 < yashgaroth> I should catch up with my labmate who dunked his ungloved hand into a solution of etbr and find out if it's fallen off yet 16:05 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-170-49.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:06 < ParahSailin__> and anyone working in tissue culture knows about propidium iodide, and how it's used as a stain for dead cells because live cells do not let it in 16:20 -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-67-175-61.shv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:21 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Quit: ...unyaaa ~~~] 16:21 -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-67-175-61.shv.bellsouth.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:28 < kanzure> yashgaroth: sounds cool, go find him 16:29 < yashgaroth> nah I'm sure he's fine 16:53 < kanzure> aahh this keyboard is much better 16:53 < kanzure> 90% less dead skin 16:54 < ParahSailin__> model m keyboard? 16:57 < skorket> HaD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Stz0pATsXc&feature=player_embedded#! 16:57 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:08 < kanzure> ParahSailin__: nah i got a replacement keyboard for my laptop 17:09 < ParahSailin__> i could use a new keyboard in mine 17:09 < ParahSailin__> havent had an enter key for almost a year 17:55 -!- exiff [~blue@unaffiliated/exiff] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:57 -!- rafael [~dnm@pdpc/supporter/active/calango] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:02 -!- rafael [~dnm@pdpc/supporter/active/calango] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:05 -!- jure [~quassel@unaffiliated/jure] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:07 < kanzure> jure: hi 18:07 < jure> what am I doing here lol 18:07 < jure> what's "hplusroadmap" mean anyway 18:07 < jure> who's george church 18:09 < ParahSailin__> did you follow me here? 18:09 < jure> wtf 18:12 < jure> yes, I hid in the shadows and stealthily observed your every step 18:13 < kanzure> hplusroadmap is many things, but it was originally just a place to work on transhumanist engineering projects 18:15 < ParahSailin__> http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/26/3184496/hacked-brain-adderall-cautionary-tale 18:16 < kanzure> taking a drug isn't much of a hack 18:17 < brownies> kanzure: let me tell about this sweet hack i made for writing text on a screen, i call it a "keyboard" 18:17 < kanzure> brownies: will it fall apart after 100,000,000 keystrokes? 18:18 < brownies> i don't know, but get 100 million monkeys and we'll find out! 18:19 < kanzure> brownies: why aren't there keyboard warranties? 18:20 < kanzure> oh looks like there might be 18:20 < kanzure> http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/support/keyboard%20warranty.pdf 18:20 < kanzure> and workmanship and will perform 18:20 < kanzure> substantially in accordance with the Product documentation for two years from the date of 18:20 < kanzure> purchase. 18:20 < kanzure> 2 years? :( 18:39 < brownies> that's 50 million keystrokes per year! 18:39 < kanzure> or only 13,000 words/day 18:40 < brownies> "One day in late 2007 a friend was astonished to learn I hadn't yet seen footage of the Japanese cat that goes into boxes, 特訓するねこ." 18:40 < brownies> ah, internet journalism 18:40 < kanzure> this is what you get for reading the internet 18:53 < jrayhawk> that is like the most famous cat in the world at this point 18:54 < jrayhawk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maru_(cat) 18:54 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-9-39.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:55 < eudoxia> ohhhh the cat gets stuck in one of the boxes <3 19:06 -!- jmil [~jmil@hive76/member/jmil] has quit [Quit: jmil] 19:10 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-9-39.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:17 -!- Mokbortolan_1 [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:17 -!- Mokbortolan_ [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:22 -!- splicer [~ubuntu@c83-255-190-140.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:39 -!- exiff [~blue@unaffiliated/exiff] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:45 * ybit bought a wasd keyboard 19:45 < ybit> w/ cherry mx reds and 2mm dampeners, but i couldn't stand the dampeners, ruined the feel 19:45 < ybit> bought the dampeners for my poor coworkers :) 19:45 < ybit> but they don't mind the clacking it seems 19:46 < ybit> if i had to buy one that wasn't at work... i'd go with the kinesis 19:51 < brownies> are the reds the linear feel ones? 19:52 -!- klafka1 [~textual@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:02 -!- jmil [~jmil@hive76/member/jmil] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:04 < kanzure> jrayhawk: garfield still has a claim to that one 20:10 -!- Steel2 [ad42e490@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.66.228.144] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:36 -!- klafka1 [~textual@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:14 < ybit> brownies: yep 21:15 < ybit> at first i didn't like them, and preferred the blues, but i don't think i can go back now 21:18 < ybit> oh crap, back to two screens 21:18 < ybit> phew 21:18 < ybit> now to order the dvi splitter 21:26 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: rebooting to play video games.] 21:34 -!- splicer [~ubuntu@c83-255-190-140.bredband.comhem.se] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:43 < brownies> yeah, i want to try out a linear feel keyboard 21:43 < brownies> i'm rollin' with the ghetto/standard apple keyboard right now 22:02 -!- Mokbortolan_1 [~Nate@c-76-115-136-13.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:38 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:40 -!- qnm [~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:49 -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-66-27-117-179.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:49 -!- jmil [~jmil@hive76/member/jmil] has quit [Quit: jmil] 23:10 -!- ParahSailin__ [~parah@adsl-69-151-148-153.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:11 -!- ParahSailin_ [~parah@adsl-69-151-148-153.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:27 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-71-236-101-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:28 < delinquentme> SOOOO jmil hangs around in here 23:28 < delinquentme> and i just saw that this open source orbital shaker on thingverse ... issss posted by a "jmil" 23:28 < delinquentme> HMMMM --- Log closed Sat Jul 28 00:00:21 2012