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05:09 < archels> superkuh: I just launched wget -r on your library, if your nets just slowed to a crawl, feel free to tell me to fuck off.
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06:19 < delinquentme> <4
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06:34 < archels> superkuh: okay, done
06:34 < archels> Downloaded: 531 files, 4.3G in 1h 9m 53s (1.05 MB/s)
06:34 < archels> <3
06:48 < delinquentme> <2!
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09:25 < kanzure> delinquentme: flippa
09:26 < kanzure> "I am a Bio major at CSULA and I am very excited that I have found this group. I am interested in your projects and I would love to participate and help in any way possible."
09:26 < kanzure> ". I am currently interested in all fields of Bio ( or any other science) but I especially like genetic manipulation or any biotechnology. I hope to learn more advanced lab techniques/procedures as well as the knowledge and theory that i is required to perform such experiments."
09:29 < kanzure> "I want to do a simple little experiment to show to the nephews. I'd like to take some E. coli and make them glow by some good ol' fashioned bioluminescence using the pLux gene from Vibrio fischeri. I've done similar recombinant stuff in the lab at school and it's a super straight forward procedure so I thought it'd be fun."
09:29 < kanzure> "Trouble is... Where do I get the plasmids? I cannot find plasmids for the pLux gene anywhere. I thought about ordering a culture of V. fischeri and extracting the gene out via PCR... but I do not have a PCR machine yet. Hell, I don't even know if I can make a plasmid out of PCR products??"
09:30 < kanzure> "But how can I combine that, remove the bad plasmide from that bacterium and insert the glowing genes (but not the saline genes, because the tree shouldn't need salty water to live like the bacterium)."
09:31 < kanzure> "I read about DIYbio in Discover Magazine, and I was instantly in love with the idea of DIY organisms. However, I don't have anything beyond a very basic layman's understanding of how DNA functions..."
09:31 < kanzure> "Where should a noob like me start looking for information? The idea I had was to introduce a gene into a cactus to change it's color, or even make it glow if possible."
09:32 < kanzure> "I'm from the DC area looking to start a project up. I could use some insight and advice on how to get my project going, and if anybody is in the area, people who might be interested hearing about it and collaborating. While I'm still developing my idea, I envision the project sort of iGEM-esque (or maybe that's how all these projects start...),"
09:32 < kanzure> "but would like some input as to how people start their projects; if no formal laboratory facilities are availabe, how/where people purchase lab equipment; and maybe some info on unforseen experimental challenges or technical difficulties people have had."
09:32 < kanzure> "...trying to make myself cognizant of these issues as I develop my project. Thanks for any and all advice in advance."
09:33 < kanzure> "1) Is it worthwhile to take the "reverse genetics" approach, inserting and removing genes with the hope of a meaningful outcome?"
09:33 < kanzure> "2.) I was looking at beginning my research with the Drosophilas and microinjection. Is this a decent starting point for a low-budget? I've built my own functional micromanipulator, but I'm not familiar with pricing for gene synthesis etc."
09:34 < kanzure> "Can anyone help me get into genetic engineering. What can I do? How can I start? The thing I am looking to do with it is (with no aims or goals like to cure cancer) create a living creature, or create biological circuits so that you have living electronics (hack my toys to make them pets!)."
09:34 < kanzure> "What could I do to do a "hello world?""
09:35 < kanzure> "I studied mathematic, and i'm currently studying cognitive science in college. What you people are doing seem pretty interesting. I've always been interested by science. So my question would be naive : where do i start?"
09:38 < kanzure> "I'm getting really interested in DIYBio and hope to do stuff with chlorophyll (green, plant stuff, sorry if that was the wrong word!) and bacteria. Unfortunatly, I have no idea how to get dna into bacteria. I think it involves getting plasmids but I don't know much. Any help at all would be great!!"
09:41 < kanzure> oh right i forgot about http://www.labautopedia.com/mw/index.php/Main_Page
09:43 < kanzure> http://www.labautopedia.com/mw/index.php/Category:Automated_liquid_handling_workstations
09:43 < kanzure> http://www.labautopedia.com/mw/index.php/The_history_of_automated_liquid_handling
09:45 < kanzure> http://www.labautopedia.com/mw/index.php/Early_microplate_automation
09:46 < kanzure> "The procedure was to first add diluent, to all 96 wells with a dropper. The technician holding eight loops at a time would move them from row to row, twirling to obtain mixing, and then transfer 25μL or 50μL to the next row (Figure 3)"
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09:56 < kanzure> oh man, old advertising http://aem.asm.org/content/30/1/local/advertising.pdf
09:58 < kanzure> "The accepted method of cleaning the Microtiter® loop was to flame them to incandescence, then dip them in water. The sudden contraction popped off contaminates. To accomplish this, the Autotiter had a propane burner and a running water bath. At an ASM meeting in Philadelphia someone reversed the connections."
09:58 < kanzure> "The effort to light the burner resulted in a propane-fed flaming torch about three feet high. With the stench of singed hair still prevalent, the Fire Marshall arrived on the scene to remind us open flames were not allowed."
09:59 < octopine> kanzure hmm? http://d.pr/i/IyE8+#.png
09:59 < kanzure> "Morning Star was a large injection-molding house producing eight track cassettes. They and Dynatech (Cooke) created a joint venture to produce microplates in high volume to meet the growing demand. The new company was named CoStar."
10:05 < kanzure> "history of the pipette" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRVFZJ-VLCc
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11:43 < nmz7871> kanzure: labautopedia isnt working, are you harassing their servers?
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11:49 < kanzure> no
11:49 < kanzure> i have copies of those two history pages though
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13:09 < nmz787> 'linuz torvalds - nvidia fuck you' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ
13:10 < kanzure> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20120803-first-open-source-powder-based-3d-printer.html
13:10 < kanzure> http://blog.makezine.com/2012/08/03/oshw-powder-based-rapid-prototyper/
13:12 < nmz787> 96 DPI!!!
13:12 < nmz787> geez
13:15 < kanzure> nmz787: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/labautopedia-history-of-early-microplate-automation.html
13:15 < kanzure> nmz787: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/labautopedia-history-of-automated-liquid-handling.html
13:59 < nmz787> kanzure: you gonna get the IMGs?
13:59 < kanzure> i have the images, but i didn't upload them
14:05 < AdrienG> kanzure: http://www.spoonflower.com/welcome
14:15 < kanzure> oh i forgot about chris' "personalpcr" thing.. http://templemanautomation.com/personalpcr/
14:22 < nmz787> man i can't even find a decent google hit for 'new york city overubanization'
14:22 < nmz787> where does a guy go to hate on NYC???
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14:29 < kanzure> http://openwetware.org/wiki/TOP10_chemically_competent_cells
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14:50 < kanzure> nmz787: what happened to http://diybioforum.org/wiki/index.php?title=FAQ
14:58 < nmz787> no one ever really used it
14:59 < nmz787> i don't think there was much of anything there anyway... not sure if i backed it up
15:07 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: 21c5bf6 an initial list of better questions for a biohacking faq
15:07 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: 5be2a4a 2012-07-05 Never mind the biologists, here come the biopunks
15:07 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: a004f61 add link to openwetware registration discussion
15:07 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: 22039e0 even more questions in diybio/faq/better-questions
15:07 < kanzure> nmz787: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/better-questions
15:07 < kanzure> please add anything you think is missing
15:07 < kanzure> these were extracted from the mailing list archives
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15:13 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: fee376b fix sterilization typo
15:14 < kanzure> the faq should probably be segmented into different sections
15:14 < kanzure> there's usually a big set of questions even for each individual protocol
15:15 < kanzure> e.g. always someone wondering about modifying the calcium chloride transformation protocols
15:15 < kanzure> or the inevitable questions about why their gel runs are smearing
15:15 < nmz787> gels are something of a black art i think
15:15 < nmz787> or maybe the people in the know only publish answers in springer books
15:16 < nmz787> that i haven't found and downloaded yet
15:16 < kanzure> the most probable reason that your gel smears is that god hates you
15:16 < kanzure> the second most probable reason is contamination
15:18 < nmz787> hah
15:18 < nmz787> not contam
15:18 < nmz787> no really weird shit can happen
15:19 < kanzure> well, i had contamination issues when i spent a month running 100s of gels
15:19 < kanzure> to be fair i was doing weird things
15:19 < kanzure> e.g. the problems were mostly upstream in the pcr steps
15:19 < nmz787> tom knight was telling me to do extra DNA precipitations a while ago, that helped things (getting rid of other ions) but it didn't make them perfect
15:19 < nmz787> not just smearing though, wiggly lanes and weird shit
15:20 < nmz787> like someone took a picture of a perfect gel, printed it on transparency plastic, then warmed up the plastic so it got all deformed
15:20 < kanzure> "the weegie board guide to molecular biology (not endorsed by the national spiritualist organization)"
15:21 < nmz787> the new FAQ questions look good
15:21 < kanzure> they should probably be split up
15:21 < kanzure> into segments
15:21 < nmz787> we could have been using shitty agarose, though I don't know
15:22 < nmz787> hah, i just noticed one of my own questions
15:23 < kanzure> the sections could be: gel electrophoresis questions, transformation questions, incubation, all things glowing/gfp, thermocycling/pcr, dna extraction, sequencing, primers and primer design, stochiometry/dilutions/buffers/math, making equipment, buying equipment
15:23 < kanzure> but this is already way too many subtopics for one person to deal with
15:23 < nmz787> "Are there any poly(T) oligo columns on sale that have a free 3' end"
15:24 < kanzure> there are some other questions of yours in there
15:24 < nmz787> a bit too technical for a beginner, cory was the only one to reply :P
15:24 < kanzure> oh and then there's lots of software questions, which should be organized somehow
15:24 < nmz787> there could be a question "Do only PhDs answer these FAQ questions"
15:26 < nmz787> geez another one from me... i must be the redheaded stepchild of DIYbio that doesn't get noticed because i'm shoved in the closet under the stairs
15:26 < kanzure> i don't understand that analogy at all
15:26 < nmz787> lol
15:26 < nmz787> you could copy the P is for plasmid google doc that was floating around for the glossary
15:27 < nmz787> 'a is for autoclave' https://docs.google.com/document/d/10OlwuiGhIIToPlzpywQhOL0hNyAWdZsR06DPubjlcrM/edit
15:29 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: 5b172a4 possible way to organize these questions
15:30 < nmz787> i've been in the habit of capitalizing Science lately
15:30 < nmz787> like the religious folks do with their deities
15:32 < kanzure> organizing questions around different methods (gels, blots, precipitation, ...) feels like it's missing the ponit
15:32 < kanzure> *point
15:32 < kanzure> but they are still important questions
15:32 < kanzure> like, i can't manually maintain a FAQ for all 4000 protocols on protocols-online.org.. if each protocol gets 10 questions that's 40,000 questions.
15:36 < nmz787> yeah
15:36 < nmz787> i was thinking a lot of the questions are great, and worth taking the time to add answers
15:36 < nmz787> but that it would be hard for someone to search through
15:36 < nmz787> since there are so many
15:37 < kanzure> i have noticed that many people read about diybio in the news
15:37 < kanzure> and then join the mailing list
15:37 < kanzure> and then ask "okay, what do i need to get started"
15:37 < kanzure> which is a totally hopeless question..
15:38 < kanzure> there are just so many possible projects that it's difficult to enumerate them all
15:40 < nmz787> yeah, well, if they need somewhere to get started... we either put them through the PITA many roads..... or we say Carolina Kit
15:40 < nmz787> but even that doesn't give you gel loading or analysis training
15:40 < kanzure> why is everyone so interested in gfp? i did the gfp kit in high school and it wasn't that exciting.
15:41 < nmz787> HOWTO use a micropipettor can be a challenge for college students
15:41 < kanzure> gfp is very useful in research projects for other reasons, but by that point you are using it for some practical ends
15:41 < nmz787> I've seen students use them without tips, and heard stories of grad students doing that too
15:41 < nmz787> then again i started biohacking in my kitchen after 9th grade
15:42 < nmz787> but i started with books and long ass FAQs
15:42 < nmz787> which I was fine with
15:42 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: 112166f 9 more questions
15:44 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: e45fbc9 just some questions about open access
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15:46 < skorket> have you guys heard of/used OMERO?
15:46 < kanzure> no
15:46 < nmz787> nope
15:46 < kanzure> it sounds like an ftp server for microscopy images
15:46 < skorket> more like a filesystem/management environment
15:50 < kanzure> huh, maradydd was making her own calcium chloride?
15:51 < kanzure> skorket: you have been pre-selected; we are redoing the diybio faq
15:51 < kanzure> skorket: what questions would you like to see answered?
15:51 < skorket> I won't be representative
15:51 < kanzure> i know
15:51 < kanzure> go ahead anyway :P
15:51 < skorket> what kind of questions do you want?
15:53 < kanzure> skorket: any kind
15:53 < kanzure> i know you had some basic microfluidic questions, but questions simpler than that would be cool
15:54 < kanzure> or related.
15:54 < kanzure> skorket: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/better-questions
15:54 < skorket> what are some good resources for biology, diy and diy biology?
15:54 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: 6f859d5 more questions from the diybio mailing list
15:56 < skorket> who should I go through to get reagents?  Will I run into problems as an individual ordering reagents?
15:57 < skorket> yeah, see, you have most of the questions I would ask on that list in one form or another
16:03 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: a12623a a handful of questions imported from the existing faq
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16:47 < kanzure> ybit: happy birthday, old man
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17:56 < kanzure> when will "like a roomba stuck in a closet" become an acceptable punchline?
17:57 < kanzure> i fear that roombas have already reached peak popularity
17:57 < kanzure> so the joke might not be that strong
17:58 < nmz787> punchline to what though?
17:58 < kanzure> *shrug*
17:59  * kanzure protects his list of zingers (ok, i don't have a list of zingers really)
18:06 < nmz787> mmm hmm
18:06 < nmz787> more like your list of potential punchlines
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18:35 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: 69473a5 rearranging some questions, adding others
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18:49 < brownies> kanzure: i found a bug
18:49 < brownies> clicking on a question does not seem to reveal an answer -_-
18:51 < kanzure> heh
18:55 < kanzure> brownies: there are answers here http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq for some of them
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18:58 < kanzure> delinquentme: https://www.transcriptic.com/about/jobs
18:58 < kanzure> thought you might like that one.
18:59 < delinquentme> OOOooOOooOOoO
18:59  * delinquentme munches quesidilla
19:19 < kanzure> "illustrated guide to home biology experiments" http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920017691.do
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19:24 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: 3e56974 just some introductory books
19:25 < kanzure> yashgaroth: got any better ideas? http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/better-questions
19:26 < yashgaroth> you did all that since yesterday?
19:27 < yashgaroth> "Why are there no really good biology forums?" oh god it's so true :(
19:30 < yashgaroth> looks good to me, should fill in the answers before adding new Qs
19:31 < kanzure> yeah i don't know how to structure it, a lot of these aren't actually "frequently" asked
19:31 < yashgaroth> anyone know if the khan academy videos for bio are any good? might as well add a link if they are
19:32 < kanzure> i haven't tried them yet
19:32 < yashgaroth> oh and NCBI bookshelf would be good
19:33 < kanzure> that's mentioned in the actual faq elsewhere
19:33 < kanzure> so, these are just questions that i extracted from the mailing list
19:34 < kanzure> the number one most frequently asked question is a meaningless one ("how do i get started")
19:36 < yashgaroth> damn they're coming out of the woodwork in that non-biology-native guy's thread
19:38 < kanzure> "Is there a simple kit to order and start with or a book that isn't a textbook?"
19:38 < kanzure> that isn't a textbook? what does he want, biology by fortune cookie notes?
19:39 < yashgaroth> honestly neither the google group nor diybio.org actually have biology information or links to it, far as I can tell
19:39 < kanzure> that's true
19:39 < kanzure> and no link to the faq
19:40 < kanzure> i have been debating whether or not i should send out an email about the faq being moved
19:40 < yashgaroth> who owns the group, mac cowell?
19:40 < kanzure> i didn't ask jonathan cline about moving it
19:40 < kanzure> mac cowell and jason bobe
19:41 < yashgaroth> yeah a link to OWW and/or the faq would theoretically cut down on the getting started spam...theoretically
19:42 < kanzure> i don't think the oww faq does a good job
19:42 < yashgaroth> well it's better than "welcome to the group! here's a link to a worthless site! ask stupid questions below"
19:43 < kanzure> haha
19:43 < kanzure> well, i think i should send out an email about the faq move
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19:43 < kanzure> but, moving the faq probably makes me an ass
19:43 < yashgaroth> it's not like they're doing anything with it
19:44 < kanzure> true that
19:47 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: 417c5f6 update internal wiki links in diybio/faq.mdwn
19:48 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: 0ca32ef hmm that diybio.org/projects link looks deprecated
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19:51 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: b6f158b fix some faq interlinking
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20:00 < kanzure> here is fenn complaining about openwetware registration policies:
20:00 < kanzure> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/diybio/50U54BYu9Rw
20:01 < kanzure> here is mac cowell hating on ikiwiki:
20:01 < kanzure> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/diybio/FAQ/diybio/Whbc4_yQF4s/BZK0-0BaRU8J
20:01 < kanzure> oops i mean
20:01 < kanzure> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/diybio/FAQ/diybio/Whbc4_yQF4s/BZK0-0BaRU8J
20:01 < kanzure> hrm.
20:01 < kanzure> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/diybio/Whbc4_yQF4s/FY6bxmlcI3kJ
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20:06 < delinquentme> http://imgur.com/gallery/44cYg
20:06 < delinquentme> " Imagine how big that is "
20:07 < joshcryer> Expected porn. Was acceptable.
20:08 < superkuh> I remember that event.
20:08 < delinquentme> lolol
20:09 < delinquentme> so 1.3 m earths would fit inside the sun...
20:09 < delinquentme> so yeah that flame is like
20:09 < delinquentme> plasma ?
20:09 < superkuh> That comment thread is painful.
20:09 < delinquentme> substantially larger that this planet
20:10 < superkuh> The earth would be the size of one of the small bright dots on the photosphere. Probably 20 could fit across the circumference of that loop.
20:11 < superkuh> Er diameter.
20:11 < superkuh> Not circumference.
20:12 < superkuh> Anyway, the image itself is in 30.4nm light from helium ions in the plasma.
20:16 < joshcryer> I recall a really convoluted video presentation about the magnetic field lines in the core of the sun.
20:16 < joshcryer> Since apparently the surface moves at rates that are counterintuitive or something.
20:16 < joshcryer> Been awhile since I saw it.
20:16 < joshcryer> Some NOVA doco on the sun.
20:16 < joshcryer> Those big outbursts are caused by magnetic loops and twists that "snap."
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20:19 < nmz787> sooo, downconvert the ultra UV to vis and have some kinda pinhole camera focused on your wall during the day... tracking the sun
20:19 < superkuh> No. The atmosphere absorbs it.
20:19 < nmz787> seeing the surface of the sun for a wall would be pretty cool
20:20 < nmz787> oh
20:20 < nmz787> lame
20:20  * nmz787 goes to get some CFCs
20:21 < superkuh> For earth bound observations of the photosphere the hydrogen alpha line is best. Or if you care about photospheric magnetic fields then the iron I infrared line at ~1564 nm.
20:29 < kanzure> jrayhawk: how confident are you that pinyshell is safe?
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20:45 < kanzure> nmz787: can you review this email? http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/faq-email.txt
20:45 < kanzure> nmz787: i want to avoid pissing people off
20:46 < brownies> any email longer than 3 sentences is guaranteed to piss someone off
20:46 < nmz787> add cathal to thx list
20:47 < kanzure> nmz787: cathal didn't edit it
20:47 < kanzure> ever..
20:47 < kanzure> brownies: well, it's a complicated history going on here
20:47 < kanzure> brownies: i wrote this retarded and embarrassing diybio faq on heybryan.org/mediawiki
20:48 < kanzure> brownies: then mac copied it to openwetware.org
20:48 < kanzure> and it's been there for a few years, where jonathan cline has been updating it with me
20:48 < kanzure> so, in theory, there's no problem with me moving it off of openwetware
20:48 < kanzure> (there are some issues with openwetware like: you have to register and wait for approval to edit)
20:49 < kanzure> brownies: so there will possibly be some people angry with the fact that i have forked it
20:49 < brownies> i was objecting generally to the wall of text, but, yes, now i see there are several other things that will also probably piss someone off
20:50 < kanzure> it's sorta stupid; jonathan is the only person who has edited it more than i have
20:51 < kanzure> and jonathan probably doesn't give a fuck
20:52 < nmz787> remove this "with the exception of Nathan McCorkle's diybioforums.org version"
20:52 < kanzure> bah
20:52 < kanzure> fine
20:52 < kanzure> i am pretty sure there are some edits there that i am forgetting :)
20:52 < nmz787> its pretty tl;dr
20:53 < kanzure> well the only thing people should care about is the first link
20:53 < nmz787> tho i did read it
20:54 < nmz787>  "There has also been a trickle of other contributors to the FAQ including:"
20:54 < nmz787> you're saying Cathal didn't ever help with FAQ stuff
20:54 < kanzure> you can track that by typing: git log --follow diybio/faq.mdwn
20:54 < kanzure> yes
20:54 < nmz787> what about the new stuff
20:55 < nmz787> oh
20:55 < nmz787> ok
20:55 < kanzure> git log --follow diybio/faq.mdwn | grep "^Author: " | sort | uniq
20:56 < nmz787> yeah I think it's pretty fine
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21:04 < kanzure> nmz787: sent..
21:04 < nmz787> OMG did you just see what Bryan Bishop posted to the DIYbio group?
21:04 < nmz787> insanity
21:04 < nmz787> :P
21:05 < kanzure> cathal sent that?
21:05 < kanzure> actually, where the hell is cathal and why does he never come in here
21:06 < nmz787> huh?
21:06 < nmz787> cathal said nothing!
21:06 < kanzure> cathal doesn't seem to be online
21:06 < kanzure> yes, well, he should be
21:07 < gnusha> diyhpluswiki.git: dcda6fd 
21:07 < kanzure> where is JayDugger
21:36 < jrayhawk> pinyshell isn't all that complicated; you should probably man rbash to learn what's going on
21:36 < nmz787> why use that over bash
21:36 < jrayhawk> that is bash
21:36 < nmz787> pinyshell?
21:36 < nmz787> ==bash?
21:37 < jrayhawk> yes. it is bash with set +r. you should probably man rbash to learn what's going on.
21:39 < kanzure> nmz787: pinyshell is the default shell on diyhpl.us for users that register from the wiki
21:40 < kanzure> you have a more-able account on the server
21:51 < skorket> biopunk.org hasn't been active in nearly 8 months...
21:52 < kanzure> when splicer shows up you should yell at him
21:52 < kanzure> he sometimes logs in
21:52 < kanzure> (he runs biopunk.org)
21:52 < skorket> not necessarily his fault...
21:53 < skorket> hey kanzure and nms787, how are you thinking of getting micron precision movement for you laser cutter?
21:53 < skorket> whoops, I mean nmz787
21:53 < kanzure> micro stage
21:53 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/laser_cutter/laser_cutter
21:53 < kanzure> wait
21:53 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/laser_etcher/laser_etcher
21:55 < skorket> maybe a bit too expensive, but sparkfun has some steppers that are 0.9 Deg
21:57 < skorket> how close are you guys to building?
21:57 < kanzure> well, i have to order parts
21:57 < kanzure> and fenn has to figure out if he wants to build it
21:58 < kanzure> and nmz787 has to figure out where he is living
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22:00 < skorket> in case you're interested: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10846
22:01 < skorket> compatible with the a4988 pololu drivers you're using
22:09 < nmz787> i don't think fenn wants to build it. does the austin hackerspace have a machine shop?
22:09 < nmz787> skorket: those motors look pretty good
22:09 < nmz787> would give us 2X resolution
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22:12 < nmz787> skorket: how do i figure out how many oz/in I need
22:14 < kanzure> atx hackerspace is not mnuch of a machine shop
22:15 < kanzure> btw there's #austinhackerspace
22:17 < nmz787> do you have access to that one?
22:18 < nmz787> oh you're not saying there are two in austin
22:18 < nmz787> well fenn said he might head to austin if he has a car there
22:18 < nmz787> soooo
22:18 < nmz787> 3-man hackathon
22:18 < nmz787> for this thing
22:24 < klafka> i was just at the oakland hackerspace
22:24 < klafka> i keep going there for like 10 mins and leaving
22:34 < brownies> oakland has a hackerspace?
22:34 < brownies> where?
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22:41 < klafka> sudoroom
22:41 < klafka> on broadway
22:41 < klafka> http://sudoroom.org/
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23:13 < brownies> word, thanks. might drop by sometime.
23:13 < klafka> they have meetings on mondays
23:13 < klafka> are you in oakland?
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23:36 < skorket> nmz787, do you mean (oz * in)?
23:41 < brownies> klafka: i'm around, sometimes.
23:59 < brownies> this is literally the most useless web site in the world
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