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06:53 <@kanzure> oh hrm. https://bitbucket.org/denis/gevent-curl
06:53 <@kanzure> oops. user input error.
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07:23 <@kanzure> nmz787: what did you think about this one? http://myspectral.com
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08:21 <@kanzure> "As far as I know NE-1 must run under Win 7 SP1 since any higher service pack breaks the existing Python DLLs in the NE-1 distribution."
08:21 <@kanzure> "and perhaps get it to the level where it will run under Python 3.x."
08:21 <@kanzure> ok why is everyone so fucking adament about python 3
08:22 <@kanzure> *adamant
08:27 <@kanzure> python 3 isn't going to save nanoengineer. programmers will.
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08:57 <@kanzure> fenn: have you ever looked at https://github.com/makerbot/conveyor "A printing dispatch engine for 3D objects and their friends" ?
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09:36 <@kanzure> nmz787: hi
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09:47 <@kanzure> oh neat, mendelmax uses freecad python scripts to generate the CAD stuff
09:47 <@kanzure> https://github.com/maxbots/MendelMax/blob/master/MendelMax.py
09:47 <@kanzure> https://github.com/maxbots/MendelMax/tree/master/partsrc
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10:15 < skorket> I just talked to a guy who made a sensor to measure light, pressure, etc.  He used the trick that allows you to use an LED as a sensor and just used a green and red LED to measure the amount of green and red light.
10:15 < nsh> kanzure
10:15 < nsh> software will always win :/
10:15 < nsh> programmers will lose
10:15 < skorket> Couldn't this same trick be used as calibration for a spectrometer calibration?
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10:22 < chris_99> skorket, how? lasers would be better i would have thought
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10:34 < Mokbortolan_> jrayhawk: I really enjoyed that seminar, thanks for inviting me!
10:34 < nmz787> skorket: i think sensitivity suffers in that scenario
10:35 < Mokbortolan_> sorry I had to leave a bit early, I would have liked to discuss it afterwards
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11:29 < jrayhawk> You missed out on the last half where he starts aggressively spending the credibility he earned on the first half!
11:29 < jrayhawk> it's the most fun part
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11:43 < Mokbortolan_> dang
11:43 < Mokbortolan_> I looked him up a bit, he's got some chops
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11:45 < Mokbortolan_> Oh, and tell that black-shirted fellow to enjoy my cranberry-nut trail mix, with my compliments :p
11:45 <@kanzure> mark sims has reported in, he's still alive
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11:47 < eudoxia> oh thank god
11:47 < eudoxia> now will he send you the nanoengineer wiki?
11:48 <@kanzure> not sure.. he seems to want to bring the site back up
11:48 <@kanzure> instead of giving me a tarball
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11:49 <@kanzure> https://groups.google.com/group/nanoengineer-dev/msg/52ff9f726988967f
11:50 < eudoxia> unrelated: "Valkyrie thinks her 9-to-5 gig as a waitress is doomed, and she wants you to help her start a new business using 3d printing technology; printing out custom designer bodies and body parts for her and her friends."
11:51 < eudoxia> s'warp should sue
11:51 <@kanzure> why should i help her? i don't understand. is she paying me?
11:52 < eudoxia> "Really, my being a succubus didn’t clue you in to the fact that I’m anything but normal?"
11:52 < eudoxia> well obviously his psychosis has advanced further
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11:55 < skorket> nmz787, meaning you can't get high precision or low luminosity data?
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12:11 < ThomasEgi> skorket, what was it about? i am lacking the earlier parts of the conversation
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12:12 < skorket> I was talking to a guy who made a light sensor out of red and green leds.  He exploited the trick that allows you to use LEDs as photo diodes.  Since they have a filter built in and are optimized for a particular wavelength, they're easy to use as sensors for the particular wavelength they were designed to emit
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12:13 < skorket> sorry, I gotta go, be on later
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12:13 < ThomasEgi> hm.. doesn't sound like it would get anything close to a real sensor tho..
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12:18 <@kanzure> hahah so i'm reading through the private messages on facebook that are public today
12:18 <@kanzure> because of a bug
12:18 <@kanzure> joseph jackson's account is effected
12:18 <@kanzure> andrew hessel's too
12:18 < chris_99> eek, how does that work?
12:19 <@kanzure> who cares, just take as much as you can
12:20 <@kanzure> it seems to only impact messages from 2009
12:21 < chris_99> ah
12:21 <@kanzure> ok so i have hessel's, jojack's, eri gentry's, who else
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12:25 < strangewarp> yudkowsky
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12:31 <@kanzure> i doubt he uses facebook
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12:31 < eudoxia> he doesn't seem to have an account
12:32 < strangewarp> bah
12:32 < eudoxia> but maybe it's just one of those things that everyone knows but me
12:32 <@kanzure> sure he does.. https://www.facebook.com/yudkowsky
12:32 < strangewarp> I haven't touched Facebook since 2005, so I don't know who may or may not have an account there..
12:33 < eudoxia> christ facebook's search is ridiculous
12:33 < strangewarp> my shitty teenager page sits there, dead and filled with unread Werewolf Game alerts
12:34 < strangewarp> I read that as "christ's facebook search"...
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15:43 <@kanzure> damn you freenode
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16:08 <@kanzure> with apologies for linking to wired.. :/
16:08 <@kanzure> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-09/24/synthetic-biology
16:09 <@kanzure> so i'm really confused about igem
16:09 <@kanzure> i thought they were staying by their diybio ban
16:09 <@kanzure> i suppose that was for independent groups, and they can't stop universities from offering some lab space?
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16:13 <@kanzure> Expected 0x000A000A method frame on channel 0, got frame type 65
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18:09 < alusion> Sup kanzure
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18:47 < mensch> Has anyone who has used Piracetam long term, benefited from a higher dose (i.e. 4.8g) over a smaller dose (say 800mg)?
19:06 < cpopell_> mensch: http://examine.com/supplements/Piracetam/
19:07 < brownies> that one guy on that one forum wrote something pretty damning about piracetam withdrawal
19:07 < cpopell_> at what dosage?
19:07 < cpopell_> some people use like 20g a day
19:07 < cpopell_> the mostly effective doses I've heard are 4.5-9
19:08 < cpopell_> although that can range as low as 1.4
19:08 < mensch> cpopell_: Thanks
19:11 < skorket> evening all
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19:14 < brownies> 4.5 what? grams?
19:14 < brownies> i don't use it myself. you could look up his thing... it was on r/nootropics not that long ago.
19:14 < cpopell_> yeah
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19:23 < F7_> whee
19:24 <@kanzure> F7_: welcome back
19:24 < F7_> I'm very back right now
19:24 < F7_> I have lots of free time finally
19:25 < F7_> got fired, now I'm in Austin with my roomate and girlfriend on a whim
19:25 <@kanzure> need a place to stay?
19:25 < F7_> I wouldn't mind, actually. The place we had lined up only has floorspace
19:25 <@kanzure> i have a bed and extra bathroom
19:26 < F7_> That's excellent
19:26 <@kanzure> want it tonight?
19:26 < F7_> That'd be extra excellent
19:27 <@kanzure> okie dokie. where you at?
19:27 < F7_> I'm at strange brew right now
19:27 < F7_> I have GPS, of course
19:28 < F7_> So not a problem to get anywhere
19:29 <@kanzure> go north until you pass the highway, turn left at panther, turn right and it's the last right
19:29 <@kanzure> or you can just whois my domain name
19:29 <@kanzure> you're like two minutes away.
19:30 < F7_> Fantastic
19:31 < F7_> Done. GPS locked on.
19:34 < ParahSailin_> hey forrest
19:34 < ParahSailin_> shit, fired?
19:35 < ParahSailin_> paperbot http://www.sciencemag.org/content/336/6089/1671.full
19:37 < F7_> No particular reason, the VP didn't like my haircut or something. I was at the job for 2.5 years and I got nothing but praise until Friday.
19:37 <@kanzure> awesome
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19:38 < ParahSailin_> explains why you were on linkedin a few days ago
19:39 < ParahSailin_> eureka genomics is likely to hire soon
19:39 < F7_> Can the carbon fixation process just be changed like that?
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19:40 < ParahSailin_> its a bit out there... like the people who wanted to put nitrogen fixing nodules in maize
19:41 < brownies> then fire your barber
19:41 < F7_> haha
19:42 <@kanzure> F7_: need pickup service?
19:47 < ParahSailin_> from wiki "The C4 plants often possess a characteristic leaf anatomy." great, bioengineering new _anatomy_
19:47 < F7_> No, I'll be there, taking off as soon as my roomate finishes his drink
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19:55 <@kanzure> https://makezineblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/space-plan-scan-touched-up-001.pdf
19:56 <@kanzure> what an awful format..
19:56 <@kanzure> i hate whoever made this. yep.
20:06 < ParahSailin_> hey, its almost as bad as that guy who sells drugs at sens conferences 的 metabolic chart
20:07 < ParahSailin_> used 的 because i have forgotten how to form the genitive case in english
20:11 <@kanzure> you are a mysterious person
20:12 < ParahSailin_> john furber
20:12 < ParahSailin_> http://www.legendarypharma.com/chartbg.html
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20:39 < F7_> I'm at Kanzure's
20:39 < yashgaroth> huzzah
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21:01 < nmz787> ever hear of this http://www.innovocracy.org/
21:09 <@kanzure> nope
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22:07 < skorket> looks like Cornell is involved with that one
22:07 < skorket> only two projects...
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22:35 < nmz787> http://www.nature.com/news/custom-gene-editing-rewrites-zebrafish-dna-1.11463
22:35 < nmz787> (TALENs)
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23:30 <@kanzure> blaah
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