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00:16 <@brownies> kanzure: you catch this? http://www.nature.com/news/open-access-deal-for-particle-physics-1.11468
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04:16 -!- Topic for ##hplusroadmap: biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open hardware | sponsored by george church and the NRA | http://gnusha.org/logs http://diyhpl.us/wiki http://groups.google.com/group/diybio | friends don't let friends do super college
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07:26 <@kanzure> brownies: yes i saw that
07:27 <@kanzure> brownies: although it's not super surprising, particle physics has always been like this
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08:51 < alusion> good morning
08:52 <@kanzure> oh not this guy again
08:53 < alusion> http://www.roadtovr.com/2012/09/26/augmented-reality-welding-mask-1344 interesting article
08:53 < alusion> Sup cancer
08:54 < alusion> do you even lift bro?
08:54 < alusion> Anyhow, apply that welding mask idea
08:54 < alusion> to the Oculus rift [which went live for pre-order today]
08:58 < alusion> so apparently... transparent Aluminum has been commercialized
08:59 < alusion> >_>
09:01 < jrayhawk> uh... really
09:01 < jrayhawk> where would this be
09:03 < alusion> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=transparent+aluminum
09:03 < jrayhawk> that's not an answer
09:03 < jrayhawk> where is it being commercialized
09:04 < alusion> Oh one moment.
09:04 < alusion> depends how you want it?
09:04 < alusion> Sheets ? foil? Brick?
09:04 < jrayhawk> i am not picky
09:05 < Mariu> =]
09:05 <@kanzure> scienceexchange.com is now offering 'animal husbandry' services.
09:08 < alusion> alibaba has tons of different kinds. I am wondering if graphene has made any breakthroughs in its manufacturing process?
09:08 < jrayhawk> link me to one
09:09 < alusion> Also I was I had heard from a while ago that light microscopes had the ability to see to nano for around $500, wondering if ya'll had anything on that?
09:09 < alusion> jeez you want everything handed to you?
09:10 < alusion> I'm going to get some breakfast instead.
09:11 < jrayhawk> a "transparent aluminum door" is not made of transparent aluminum. a "transparent aluminum foil" is not made of transparent aluminum.
09:11 < jrayhawk> transparent aluminum is made in laboratories with an ion cannon at uncommercializable cost.
09:18 < jrayhawk> oh, no, x-ray lasers, excuse me
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09:26 < jrayhawk> i guess, more specifically, "'a transparent medium that happens to contain aluminum' is a rather substantially larger superset of 'transparent aluminum'"
09:27 < chris_99> ooh hadn't heard of x-ray lasers
09:28 <@kanzure> so what's going on here
09:28 <@kanzure> https://lh4.ggpht.com/-Lymw9XVvZ_yKoYTLKt2P-zBBsDK35tXEopVX0rL89r8daWwQZDZjrvSggLOXzDyqPQ=w1000
09:28 <@kanzure> https://lh4.ggpht.com/-Lymw9XVvZ_yKoYTLKt2P-zBBsDK35tXEopVX0rL89r8daWwQZDZjrvSggLOXzDyqPQ=w1000000
09:30 < jrayhawk> it appears to be limited to 2560, the upper practical resolution of most video setups
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09:30 <@kanzure> they seem to be the same image
09:31 < jrayhawk> rather confusingly, it's scaling in my browser which doesn't do automatic scaling
09:34 <@kanzure> okay then
09:35 < jrayhawk> oh i see, i am just dumb, nevermind
09:36 < jrayhawk> have you played much with imagemagick or gd
09:36 <@kanzure> sure
09:36 < jrayhawk> oh good. some people have a lot of problems conceptualizing this sort of automated graphics logic.
09:37 < jrayhawk> i guess GIMP is also a pretty good graphics library
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09:59 <@kanzure> jrayhawk: imagemagick and gd are my go-to solutions for image manipulation stuff. no worries.
09:59 <@kanzure> i just want their largest image instead of their scaled-down junk
10:08 <@kanzure> https://lh5.ggpht.com/lOF7tULhe9XhYu76ODh5owjFStMyuGkxT1-eqq-Trm0A0cac93IuNFUN3cEnsXcnSw=w1000
10:08 <@kanzure> so, that doesn't work because your palm is over the button.
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10:59 < jrayhawk> i am guessing that image isn't natively rasterized, so you're probably screwed in terms of perfection, but 512x512 seems good enough for most purposes
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11:30 < eudoxia> christ the dresden codak guy just never updates his comic
11:32 < archels> hahaha I hear ya
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12:08 <@brownies> kanzure: eh? what are you doing with Square?
12:26 <@kanzure> brownies: it was the only example someone could give me of a page with a video
12:28 < nmz787> anyone in here unemployed and in NYC, I would be interested in paying someone to record a free lecture series this week
12:31 <@brownies> ahh
12:31 <@brownies> what's the lecture series nmz787 ?
12:32 < nmz787> http://saturn.med.nyu.edu/research/symposium/2012
12:40 < nmz787> http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-09/miot-omb092512.php
12:40 < nmz787> Oscillating microscopic beads could be key to biolab on a chipMIT team finds way to manipulate and measure magnetic particles without contact, potentially enabling multiple medical tests on a tiny device
12:41 < nmz787> "The balls used here are microscopic magnetic beads that can be "decorated" with biomolecules such as antibodies that cause them to bind to specific proteins or cells; such beads are widely used in biomedical research. The key to this new work was finding a way to capture individual beads and set them oscillating by applying a variable magnetic field. The rate of their oscillation can then be measured to assess the size of
12:41 < nmz787> "
12:41 < nmz787> "Rather than pumping the fluid and the particles through channels, as in today's microfluidic devices, the particles would be controlled entirely through changes in applied magnetic fields. By controlling the directions of magnetic fields in closely spaced adjacent regions, the researchers create tiny areas with extremely strong magnetic fields, called magnetic domain walls, whose position can be shifted along the track. "W
12:42 < nmz787> that's about all that's interesting in that article
12:43 < archels> So they have a grid of coils to generate the magnetic field?
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12:51 <@kanzure> hilarious
12:52 <@kanzure> so now someone has changed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biohacking
12:52 <@kanzure> to flip the "popular" meaning -_-
12:52 <@brownies> intriguing
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12:53 <@kanzure> catastrophe averted, good job guys.
12:53 <@kanzure> oh it was yashgaroth, i'm sort of disappointed in him
12:53 <@kanzure> it's a hilarious change but uh. not substantial.
12:53 <@kanzure> he didn't even add a reference
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12:57 <@kanzure> so i know zotero can take a url and generate a wikipedia-formatted citation, but is there anything else?
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13:03 < archels> "Undid revision by Brianhkerr - please don't use wikipedia to pimp your shitty blog, thanks"
13:03 < archels> haha
13:04 < archels> kanzure: As far as I can see, this is the only thing Yashgaroth did--or rather, undid.
13:04 <@kanzure> oh i see
13:04 <@kanzure> i didn't read the comment.
13:06 < archels> meh, nmz787 left
13:06 < archels> The chipMIT thing uses only a four-pole magnet that is enormously bigger than the chip itself.
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13:09 < archels> ah but then they have electrodes lithographed onto the chip in various configurations. Nifty.
13:11 < archels> Those appaear to be used only for sensing right now, not for gating particles.
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14:17 < nmz787> "He claims to have shaved 20 years off his biochemistry"
14:17 < nmz787> sounds like he's dying 20 years earlier
14:18 <@kanzure> nah, see, he had these parasites called Y. Earialis attached to his "biochemistries"
14:18 <@kanzure> and it just got misinterpreted as years
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14:20 < nmz787> huh?
14:21 <@kanzure> i dunno. sometimes i try to come up with plausible explanations for obviously wrong statements.
14:21 < nmz787> ok
14:21 < nmz787> y. Earialis didnt google
14:21 <@kanzure> i was trying to make "years" sound like a bacteria name
14:21 < nmz787> the examples section on DIYBio wiki sucks
14:22 < nmz787> "included in the program of the Open Science Summit[12] at University of California, Berkeley."
14:22 < nmz787> i didn't know OSS had any connection to UCB
14:22 <@kanzure> science house is at berkeley
14:22 <@kanzure> and the summit rented the room
14:22 <@kanzure> oops i mean, practically speaking, jojack rented the room
14:23 <@kanzure> check the talk page.. i have a huge list of citations
14:23 <@kanzure> which could be used to write a better article (they are already in wikipedia's format)
14:24 <@kanzure> i'm actually updating that list at the moment.. slowly. it takes a while to convert diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/news into that format because no tool seems to be able to extract "author name" from arbitrary blogs.
14:24 < nmz787> also it seems biopunk vs diybio is more of blind experimentation vs doing legit literature research before beginning experiments
14:24 <@kanzure> there is no biopunk/diybio distinction
14:25 <@kanzure> splicer made it up
14:25 <@kanzure> and he originally edited the wikipedia articles years ago to get his site (biopunk.org) more prominence
14:25 < nmz787> well i would say all the magnet people are punks
14:25 <@kanzure> a professor would eagerly label you a punk
14:31 <@kanzure> arrrgh that bastard deleted http://marcuswohlsen.com/2010/12/02/biopunk-diy-scientists-hack-the-software-of-life-coming-spring-2011/
14:32 <@kanzure> i think my diybio news list has outlived some of its articles
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14:39 < nmz787> google cache?
14:39 < nmz787> or archive.org?
14:39 < nmz787> you could mirror the articles???
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14:44 < Mokbortolan_1> what was it?
14:46 < nmz787> the DIYbio news articles, some are disappearing from their original servers
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14:52 <@kanzure> there are a ridiculous number of included javascript things on this :/
14:52 <@kanzure> http://www.science20.com/marcus_wohlsen/doityourself_biology_and_history_risk_science-78578
15:02 < strangewarp> Today I saw someone bring up the idea that maybe half the low-skill workforce would be replaced by robots in 50 to 100 years, and another person called it an unreasonable science-fictional opinion that would never happen.
15:03 < strangewarp> And it made my mind grind to a halt, because.. really? Is this /still/ how regular people think about the future?
15:03 <@kanzure> also http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204124204577150801888929704.html
15:04 <@kanzure> strangewarp: yes it's unreasonable. i think it's safe to say that the low-skill workforce people will still exist in 50 years. unless you're saying they would be murdered?
15:04 <@kanzure> i mean, in 100 years, sure, most of them wont live that long
15:07 < strangewarp> In context, the discussion was that they would not have any jobs, and would need basic income. And it struck me as ludicrous that people were calling some extremely conservative, braindead futurism "too science-fictional to happen".
15:09 <@kanzure> i think you should look at it this way: the other person was arguing for extreme longevity or something
15:09 <@kanzure> s/extreme/increased
15:10 < strangewarp> From my knowledge of the other person's history, I can assure you that they think of extreme longevity as even more science-fictional.
15:10 < strangewarp> But whatever.
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15:12 < Mariu> :p
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15:13 < eudoxia> I don't think there's that much of a dichotomy between being a transhumanist and a peak oilist
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15:15 <@kanzure> "We believe it's possible that there is Peak Oil, but we don't believe he is our god"
15:15 <@kanzure> .. or some other religious mumbojumbo
15:15 < eudoxia> or generally unoptimistic about the future
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15:19 < strangewarp> I do think we're in a peculiar era where it's possible for a reasonable person to be a transhumanist and think the world is doomed, simultaneously, in some sense or another anyway
15:23 <@kanzure> ok here we go
15:23 <@kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/diybio/citations.txt
15:28 < Mariu> cool, fighting aging
15:28 < Mariu> :p
15:30 <@kanzure> he should use his real name.
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15:43 < jrayhawk> there is no bob, only juul
15:44 < Juul> praise "Bob"
15:45 <@kanzure> i am really bad at writing wikipedia articles
15:46 <@kanzure> basically i have 186 citations. now what.
15:46 < skorket> evening all
15:46 < Juul> it's better than 186 [[citation needed]]
15:47 < jrayhawk> Since XUL, like MXML, uses XML to define an interface rather than a document, its developers adopted the slogan: "There is no data, there is only XUL". Hence the XML namespace URI at the beginning of every XUL document: http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul
15:47 <@kanzure> "This usually involves the manipulation of DNA, proteins, or other small molecules."
15:47 <@kanzure> well now i have to cite this statement
15:48 < jrayhawk> is "usually" a weasel word
15:48 < Juul> you don't have to cite things if no-one will question them
15:48 <@kanzure> and, then i have to come up with some bullshit ref for "also, biohacking tends to refer to non-institutional science, but it's certainly possible to hack shit together in a lab"
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15:49 < Juul> kanzure, there must be an article about "garage biology" somewhere you can ref for that
15:49 < Juul> jrayhawk, not usually
15:49 <@kanzure> Juul: there's 186 of them. http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/diybio/citations.txt
15:49 <@kanzure> i just got done converting it into wikipedia's format
15:49 <@kanzure> but, it's not a useful statement anyway. "hacks" can be made wherever.
15:50 <@kanzure> and it doesn't give insight into the whole non-institutional bent of these articles
15:50 < Juul> great, now you just need a 186-sided die
15:50 < Juul> sure
15:51 <@kanzure> and then it becomes a semantic definition bullshit fest. i don't want that.
15:52 < Juul> can't you just say the first part: "it tends to refer to non-institutional science"
15:52 < Juul> and leave it at that
15:53 < Juul> also, in unrelated news, did you guys see the hubble extreme deep field?
15:53 < Juul> they went and improved on my all time favorite astronomy photo
15:53 < Juul> well part of it anyway
15:54 <@kanzure> no i haven't seen that photo yet
15:55 < Juul> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/science/xdf.html
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15:55 < Juul> deep space: now with more galaxies
16:01 < ThomasEgi> finally, i was already afraid we'd run out of galaxies one day.
16:02 < Mariu> lol
16:02 <@kanzure> meh http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Biohacking&oldid=514720128
16:02 <@kanzure> i'm bored. two sentences should be enough right?
16:03 < Juul> kanzure, the part where you say "the first" and "the second" has no lead-in
16:03 < Juul> otherwise I like it
16:03 <@kanzure> um
16:03 <@kanzure> i didn't write that bullshit
16:03 <@kanzure> that was whoever edited it last
16:04 < Juul> oh ok
16:04 <@kanzure> that's why those "first" and "second" things make no sense
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16:26 <@kanzure> Juul: lemme know if you get that artifactory source code drop
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16:27 < Juul> kanzure, i will
16:27 < Juul> i'm building something similar, with couch, for bio-parts-sharing
16:27 < Juul> and security has been a bit... tricky
16:27 < Juul> i'll probably be using a combination of replication filters and update-validations that use HMACs
16:28 <@kanzure> new plan: let's rewrite ezproxy in node.js and then install a backdoor. they pay for ezproxy, right? so something open source can probably replace them. (i only say node.js because otherwise i'd be bored)
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16:28 < Juul> kanzure, :)
16:28 <@kanzure> HMACs sound good to me
16:28 <@kanzure> did you see maradydd's sql injection parser grammar detector thingy?
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16:28 < Juul> kanzure, no?
16:28 <@kanzure> me either. wikipedia claims it's a thing that exists.
16:29 <@kanzure> in practice i haven't seen anyone do that (parsing sql queries to determine if injection is occurring or not)
16:29 <@kanzure> it seemed to be something like "only allow these certain types of expressions, anything else is probably an attack"
16:29 < Juul> oh, well that seems like something that's not too hard to do
16:29 < Juul> you could even make it slightly intelligent
16:30 < Juul> so it notices anything out of the ordinary
16:30 < Juul> without needing more calibration than "we changed something, so expect changes for the next 5 minutes"
16:30 <@kanzure> yeah.
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16:31 < Juul> i thought i lost my visa earlier today, but then it was magically and unpextectedly renewed
16:31 < Juul> unexpectedly
16:32 < Juul> weird to be in that much limbo
16:32 <@kanzure> hey so that ieee password leak the other day
16:32 <@kanzure> was done by some guy in copenhagen
16:32 < Juul> oooh
16:32 <@kanzure> can you get one of your guys to go steal his laptop/hard drive?
16:32 <@kanzure> i really really reeeallly want those passwords
16:32 < Mariu> =]
16:33 < Juul> I'll make some inquiries
16:33 <@kanzure> thanks
16:35 < Juul> it's not like there are that many people doing this kind of stuff in copenhagen
16:36 <@kanzure> http://ieeelog.com/ his name is on the site
16:36 <@kanzure> http://ieeelog.com/ieee-confirmation/
16:37 < Juul> ah ok
16:37 <@kanzure> "Radu Dragusin"
16:38 < Mariu> :o
16:38 < Mariu> that sounds romanian
16:39 <@kanzure> it is.
16:41 < Juul> it is unlikely that he is not a friend of a friend
16:42 < Juul> CS at University of Copenhagen is a small group already, and he was a TA
16:44 < Juul> there we go
16:44 < Juul> he's invited to the same birthday party as me on the 19th of October
16:44 <@kanzure> fantastic
16:44 <@kanzure> good work, team
16:44 < Juul> hm, i won't be able to go to Copenhagen then, but I'll reach out to him
16:47 < Juul> don't you think those passwords will all have been revoked by now?
16:47 < jrayhawk> Probably, but they're still interesting statistically
16:47 <@kanzure> people don't change their passwords on all of their sites
16:47 <@kanzure> this only means ieee passwords are changed
16:47 <@kanzure> and besides, they might just login and change it back to the original one
16:48 <@kanzure> further.. this is only a sample of logins/passwords that happened during the past few months
16:48 <@kanzure> i posit that only idiots who don't understand cookies would be re-logging-in in that timespan
16:48 < Juul> haha http://www.oaklandlibrary.org/online-resources
16:48 <@kanzure> so they are likely even more likely to not change their passwords everywhere
16:49 <@kanzure> oh nice http://www.oaklandlibrary.org/online-resources/articles-and-databases
16:50 <@kanzure> Warning: Table './autojvnj_oplweb/sessions' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: UPDATE sessions SET uid = 0, cache = 0, hostname = '66.68.190.37', session = '', timestamp = 1348703397 WHERE sid = 'fa409fb0489085a1434bcc9b0b83d954' in /usr/www/users/autojvnj/includes/database.mysqli.inc on line 134
16:51 <@kanzure> there's probably a vulnerability here with their session id (sid) sql stuff. i bet it's by cookie and not encoded.
16:51 < Juul> yeah
16:51 <@kanzure> yep my cookie is "Cookie:SESSb0ed4294577fc5e92ed7c1f7a9d9b2d9=fa409fb0489085a1434bcc9b0b83d954"
16:51 <@kanzure> fa409 looks the same to me
16:54 <@kanzure> damn. no.
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17:51 <@kanzure> so my mom calls me and says, "hey, so, is this possible on my website? i don't want to call my web guy, so i thought i'd call you to ask if it was possible"
17:51 <@kanzure> .. so in what possible world is it okay to bug me but not your person? basically this means i will probably have to fix all their crap anyway.
17:52 < ParahSailin_> i find after breaking things enough for nonpaying "customers" they stop asking
17:52 <@kanzure> maybe i should just replace her site with dicks
17:53 <@kanzure> "sorry mom, you were hacked"
18:17 < brownies> oh my god. stop everything.
18:17 < brownies> http://gawker.com/5839142/scientists-produce-glow+in+the+dark-cats
18:17 < brownies> hey, what happened to my sweet hat!
18:18 <@kanzure> :\
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18:34 < Mariu> lol
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18:50 <@kanzure> "professional work of many DIYbio enthusiasts, has led to a unique subculture among this community, with some members referring to themselves as biopunks"
18:50 <@kanzure> what a load of crap. who writes this stuff?
18:50 <@kanzure> "unique subculture".. subcultures all the way down.
18:51 <@kanzure> that was from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIYbio
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19:43 < AdrienG> stupid cunts thats who writes that.
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20:02 <@kanzure> could facebook conceivably host virtual servers for every one of their users?
20:03 <@kanzure> it seems that they offer at least a large amount of photo storage for each user, and they don't expect everyone to use all of it
20:03 <@kanzure> but 900M virtual servers: would that be doable?
20:22 <@kanzure> > And now I'm trying to interpret your interpretation. May I suggest
20:22 <@kanzure> > that the discussion move to where such discussions are supposed to
20:22 <@kanzure> > happen, which is the Wikipedia talk page for the article(s)?
20:22 <@kanzure> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:DIYbio
20:22 <@kanzure> >
20:22 <@kanzure> > That way, I (and Kanzure, who is pitching in too) can more easily
20:23 <@kanzure> so this guy is talking with me and is telling me about this "Kanzure" fellow
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20:26 <@kanzure> nmz787: check the last bit of the log.. http://gnusha.org/logs/2012-09-26.log
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20:28 < nmz787> OMG glo cats
20:29 < AdrienG> kanzure: do you have access to sci journals
20:29 <@kanzure> AdrienG: yes.
20:29 < AdrienG> kanzure: how.
20:30 <@kanzure> mad skills?
20:35 < nmz787> ezproxy
20:35 < AdrienG> share your skilz
20:35 < nmz787> AdrienG: ^
20:35 < nmz787> my ezproxy too
20:35 < AdrienG> pl0x giev
20:39 <@kanzure> just ask for what you want.
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20:46 <@kanzure> wtf now this guy is claiming i'm a wikipedia newbie. all of my edits have been fully referenced and properly formatted.
20:46 <@kanzure> how is it that wikipedia contributions deteriorate so rapidly? in 2006 when i first started poking around with wikipedia edits, it would take at least a week.
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20:48 < nmz787> where does he say that?
20:49 <@kanzure> in a private email he just sent
20:49 <@kanzure> all of his emails are to me-only, but i reply publicly because the whole point was to talk about the articles on the mailing list
20:49 <@kanzure> (so i quote his text that he sent me)
20:51 < nmz787> whoa, he deleted examples though
20:51 < nmz787> i thought the dremelFuge was perfect there, and openPCR and the pearl gel boxes maybe
20:51 < nmz787> there was that bioweathermapping project a while ago, but AFAIK it went nowhere
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20:55 <@kanzure> yeah that was jason bobe's thing
20:56 < nmz787> I guess finger magnets deserve a spot
20:56 < nmz787> do they?
20:58 <@kanzure> also apparently their used to be a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biopunk_movement page, but now it redirects to [[biopunk]]
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21:00 < nmz787> spikerbox too
21:01 <@kanzure> well, they prefer things that can be cited
21:01 <@kanzure> so pick things from the news
21:01 <@kanzure> here is a giant list of pre-formatted citations
21:01 <@kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/diybio/citations.txt
21:01 <@kanzure> do [{{Cite ... ] to cite it in text
21:02 <@kanzure> or [the thing in citations.txt that references burnafterreading] in the wikitext
21:58 <@kanzure> klafka: hello
21:59 < klafka> also internet not fucked
22:00 < nmz787> genspace did some outreach in central park i think
22:00 < nmz787> doing demos for kids
22:00 < nmz787> or maybe that was makerfaire
22:01 <@kanzure> diybio-nyc prior to genspace was doing lots of dna extraction parades
22:01 <@kanzure> then genspace started doing those
22:01 <@kanzure> meanwhile, madlab diybio uk was doing tons of public exhibits or something. i don't care.
22:04 < nmz787> ok i didnt mess up your stuff again did I?
22:04 < nmz787> ok i dont think so
22:05 < nmz787> kanzure: how do i find what this references? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nmz787#Scientific_humor
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22:07 < yashgaroth> I'm guessing "What's a pirate's favorite amino acid? -- Arrrrr-ginine!"
22:07 <@kanzure> hmmm. you would have to look for edits that you made around that timeframe.
22:07 <@kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nmz787
22:08 < nmz787> " (Scientific jokes encourage learning, please comment in the talk page if you disagree. Is the 50 or so bytes needed too many??? I think we need more arginine jokes!)"
22:09 <@kanzure> nmz787: your {{cite}} thing has to be in