--- Log opened Sun Oct 21 00:00:02 2012 00:02 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:20 -!- AlonzoTG [~atg@dsl092-168-049.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:21 -!- AlonzoTG [~atg@dsl092-168-049.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:43 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@212.159.112.196] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:52 < bkero> kanzure: heh 01:34 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@103-9-42-1.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:40 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:48 -!- user123abc [~sally@c-67-171-79-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:07 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@103-9-42-1.flip.co.nz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:08 -!- exiff [~ficl@unaffiliated/exiff] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:41 -!- exiff [~ficl@unaffiliated/exiff] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:45 -!- exiff [~ficl@unaffiliated/exiff] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:54 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:13 -!- exiff [~ficl@unaffiliated/exiff] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:14 -!- exiff [~ficl@unaffiliated/exiff] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:20 -!- exiff [~ficl@unaffiliated/exiff] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:29 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:41 -!- user123abc [~sally@c-67-171-79-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:18 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:26 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:30 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@host86-151-42-255.range86-151.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:30 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@host86-151-42-255.range86-151.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Changing host] 05:30 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:44 -!- exiff [~ficl@unaffiliated/exiff] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:46 -!- exiff [~ficl@unaffiliated/exiff] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:46 -!- exiff [~ficl@unaffiliated/exiff] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:49 -!- exiff [~ficl@unaffiliated/exiff] has quit [Client Quit] 08:54 -!- cpopell [ad42e490@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.66.228.144] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:08 -!- exiff [~ficl@unaffiliated/exiff] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:17 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:32 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:37 -!- cpopell [ad42e490@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.66.228.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:45 -!- user123abc [~sally@c-67-171-79-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:49 -!- Souljack [~Souljack@host86-169-34-121.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:54 -!- Jaakko96 [~Jaakko@94-194-89-130.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:55 -!- Jaakko96 [~Jaakko@94-194-89-130.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 10:03 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:07 -!- hyper-imo [~ficl@105.245.236.238] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:07 <@kanzure> you guys are being boring 10:11 -!- exiff [~ficl@unaffiliated/exiff] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:31 < foucist> kanzure: you're the boringest! 10:31 < foucist> tell me something i don't know! 10:44 < ThomasEgi> foucist, how about the fact that i am eating toast with eggs and bacon? i am sure you didn't know bout that^ 10:49 < foucist> ThomasEgi: sure i did, your agent and my agent are in touch 10:50 < ThomasEgi> damn that sneaky bastard. 10:50 < ThomasEgi> he said he'd be out for a party tonight. 10:50 < ThomasEgi> i'll so get his car's breaklines cut for that .... 10:50 < foucist> ThomasEgi: nah, i meant the intelligent agents 10:50 < ThomasEgi> yeah.. ecaxcty that guy 10:51 < foucist> talking about computer program brah :P 10:51 < foucist> not a human 10:54 < ThomasEgi> they upgraded? 10:54 < ThomasEgi> budget cuts? 10:54 < ThomasEgi> btw. can't be. 10:54 < ThomasEgi> my internet bandwith got cut down by 80% 10:54 < ThomasEgi> if some intelligence agency would be to spy on me, they'd make sure i wouldn't get too suspicious about it 10:55 < foucist> kanzure is spying on you 10:55 < foucist> that is good enough 10:55 < foucist> he never sleeps you know 10:58 < hyper-imo> What good university biology books are there? 11:00 < foucist> hyper-imo: why not just go to the uni library and look through all the bio books till you find one that you like 11:00 < foucist> there's usually 10 books or more of the same material for a given course 11:01 < hyper-imo> aren't there some highly recommended ones though? 11:02 < hyper-imo> Like trench for real analysis, or stewart brooks cole for calculus 11:07 < hyper-imo> Anything to recommend? 11:08 <@kanzure> hyper-imo: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/books 11:08 <@kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq 11:09 < hyper-imo> How convenient. Thanks kanzure. 11:10 < hyper-imo> Those look specialised, so i gotta at least find introductory material, bio101 stuff. 11:11 <@kanzure> you should start with those, the even more introductory stuff is crap 11:11 <@kanzure> you should just read wikipedia 11:11 < foucist> wtf, printrbot kickstarter raised $830k and immediately gets hit by irs for $330k.. 11:12 < foucist> but he probably could've retroactively incorporated 11:15 <@kanzure> someone was claiming to me earlier that it's cheaper to plant a mole in the patent office than it is to go through patent litigation 11:19 < hyper-imo> Even so. I prefer a more structured,generalised and gradual approach to learning especially in the early stages. 11:19 < hyper-imo> Thrusting myself in the deep end never worked for meh. 11:22 < foucist> kanzure: what if they're ALL moles! 11:22 < foucist> moles all the way down 11:35 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:46 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:49 -!- exiff [~ficl@unaffiliated/exiff] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:53 -!- hyper-imo [~ficl@105.245.236.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:05 -!- safitan [~safitan@75-105-12-23.cust.wildblue.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:05 -!- antifas [~safitan@75.105.12.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:18 < exiff> So what is the meaning of life then? 12:27 <@kanzure> troll 12:29 < exiff> The meaning of life is to troll? 12:29 <@kanzure> no, i mean you're a troll and you should get out 12:30 < exiff> I'm asking because the last time i suggested that attaining knowledge was the meaning and someone seemed to disagree. 12:30 <@kanzure> okay. please take your philosophy somewhere else. 12:30 < exiff> No, i'm not trolling. Why would you think that? 12:31 < exiff> Alright then. 12:31 -!- exiff [~ficl@unaffiliated/exiff] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Amen"] 12:31 <@kanzure> hooray 12:31 <@kanzure> what a nice guy 12:32 < brownies> 330k of the 830k has to go to the IRS? 12:32 < brownies> really? 12:33 <@kanzure> it's probably being counted as personal income if he hasn't setup a business yet? 12:33 <@kanzure> i guess at 30% income tax it would only be $240k 12:33 < brownies> ah, so he's getting double-taxed? that's rough. 12:34 <@kanzure> what's the first pass of taxing? 12:34 < brownies> raise money => pay tax on it => use money to make things => sell things => pay tax on income from selling things 12:35 <@kanzure> oh, that's if my assumption is correct, i see. it might be that they just sent him sales tax. i don't know. 12:35 <@kanzure> although sales tax isn't that high 12:35 < brownies> right. i don't know either. 12:40 -!- augur_ [~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:41 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:58 -!- hifrog [~swamp@p5B16F1AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:02 -!- skorket [~skorket@cpe-24-58-232-122.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:09 -!- Souljack [~Souljack@host86-169-34-121.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:13 -!- Souljack [~Souljack@host86-179-161-244.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:28 < jrayhawk> he can still do deferred income either way 13:50 -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-66-27-117-179.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:04 <@kanzure> yashgaroth: hi 14:04 < yashgaroth> yo 14:06 -!- augur_ [~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:17 -!- antifas [~safitan@75-105-12-23.cust.wildblue.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:17 -!- safitan [~safitan@75.105.12.23] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:27 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:36 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 14:40 -!- Proteus1 [~Proteus@97-121-110-211.omah.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:40 -!- Proteus1 [~Proteus@97-121-110-211.omah.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit] 14:43 -!- Proteus [~Proteus@unaffiliated/proteus] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:53 -!- hifrog [~swamp@p5B16F1AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: the world if full of omens. pick the ones you like] 15:12 -!- cpopell [ad42e490@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.66.228.144] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:48 -!- mensch [~mensch@c-71-192-5-167.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:13 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer] 16:25 -!- audy [~audy@heyaudy.com] has quit [Changing host] 16:25 -!- audy [~audy@unaffiliated/audy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:27 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@103-9-42-1.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:39 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:46 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-71-236-101-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:26 -!- wizrobe [~aserid@c-76-23-254-105.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 17:36 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:09 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:30 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-71-236-101-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:33 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:24 -!- Souljack [~Souljack@host86-179-161-244.range86-179.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:28 -!- Souljack [~Souljack@host86-176-154-158.range86-176.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:11 -!- drazak_ [~ahdfadkfa@199.188.72.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:24 -!- marainein [~net@2001:388:608c:6cb5:cd81:20e3:48e8:e221] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:02 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:01 -!- joshcryer [g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:07 -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-66-27-117-179.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:09 -!- cpopell [ad42e490@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.66.228.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:44 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:45 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Mon Oct 22 00:00:03 2012