--- Log opened Fri Oct 26 00:00:06 2012 00:10 -!- marainein [~net@2001:388:608c:6cb5:14dd:da8b:2846:9636] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:56 -!- joshcryer [g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has quit [] 00:59 -!- Mariu [Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:06 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@gw-ko-kostr2.inka-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:06 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@gw-ko-kostr2.inka-online.net] has quit [Changing host] 01:06 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:11 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@c-24-22-31-180.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:54 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:27 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:35 -!- antifas [~safitan@75.105.12.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:35 -!- safitan [~safitan@75.105.12.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:06 -!- antifas [~safitan@75-105-12-23.cust.wildblue.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:06 -!- safitan [~safitan@75-105-12-23.cust.wildblue.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:13 < archels> http://neurobio.drexelmed.edu/castroweb/castro.html 03:13 < archels> nice webpage X| 03:44 -!- Souljack [~Souljack@host86-171-40-254.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:52 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@gw-ko-kostr2.inka-online.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:52 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@gw-ko-kostr2.inka-online.net] has quit [Changing host] 05:52 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:07 -!- Souljack [~Souljack@host86-178-13-117.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:43 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:12 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-71-236-101-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:13 -!- Mokstar [~Nate@c-76-115-140-241.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:30 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-71-236-101-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:35 -!- Souljack [~Souljack@host86-178-13-117.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 08:39 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:52 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:54 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-143-153.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:09 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:12 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@c-24-22-31-180.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:13 -!- Coornail [~Coornail@li66-97.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 09:13 -!- Coornail [~Coornail@li66-97.members.linode.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:13 -!- Coornail is now known as Guest5412 09:14 <@kanzure> booop 09:14 <@kanzure> nmz787: sup? 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10:38 <@kanzure> http://blog.al.com/live/2012/08/silverhill_man_gets_time_serve.html 10:42 <@kanzure> Tabrenus: hi 10:42 < Tabrenus> hello kanzure 10:42 <@kanzure> what brings you here? 10:46 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:46 < foucist> the food, the sex, and the good vibes 10:46 -!- Tabrenus [~Tabrenus@213.211.132.86.static.edpnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:47 -!- Tabrenus [~Tabrenus@213.211.132.86.static.edpnet.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:47 <@kanzure> reasons to hate singularity institute: http://appliedrationality.org/ 10:47 <@kanzure> "The best part was the community of awesome we created" who the hell believes this pile of poop 10:47 <@kanzure> shame on anna salamon for promoting this 10:48 <@kanzure> "Photography by Apneet Jolly & Brittany Jencks" blah apneet why 10:52 <@kanzure> and why am i getting an http 401 when trying to access nature.com? my user agent is something sane, i've checked. 10:53 < Mariu> works here 10:53 < Mariu> http://www.nature.com/ 10:56 <@kanzure> http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nmeth.2213.html 10:56 <@kanzure> when i wget that with a sane user agent string i get http 401 10:56 <@kanzure> when i run curl on it i get back the gzipped content 10:56 <@kanzure> i also got http 503 at one point 10:59 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01 <@kanzure> "Sequencing the Connectome" Anthony M. Zador, Joshua Dubnau, Hassana K. Oyibo, Huiqing Zhan, Cao Gang and Ian D. Peikon plosbiology.org 11:03 <@kanzure> well anyway, i'd still like a copy of "Staining and embedding the whole mouse brain for electron microscopy" 11:05 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:39 -!- rainfrog [~swamp@p5B16E6C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: interacting processing] 11:46 -!- Tabrenus [~Tabrenus@213.211.132.86.static.edpnet.net] has quit [Quit: Tabrenus] 12:01 < foucist> kanzure: it's easy to hate.. 12:04 < foucist> especially when it's all about "Us versus Them!" 12:21 -!- lichen_ [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:23 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:34 -!- brownies is now known as croissants 12:34 -!- croissants is now known as brownies 12:52 -!- Juul [~Juul@171.66.181.30] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:21 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:21 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:36 -!- Juul [~Juul@171.66.181.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:43 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 13:53 -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-81-14-211.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:10 -!- lichen_ is now known as lichen 14:40 -!- Juul [~Juul@171.66.191.111] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:43 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:43 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@pool-71-182-199-191.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:45 -!- wwqe [443dff8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.61.255.141] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:45 -!- wwqe [443dff8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.61.255.141] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 15:07 -!- Jaakko96 [~Jaakko@94-194-89-130.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:10 -!- Jaakko96 [~Jaakko@94-194-89-130.zone8.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 15:24 < ParahSailin> connectome? 16:10 -!- aristarchus [~aristarch@unaffiliated/aristarchus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:30 -!- Souljack [~Souljack@host86-178-13-117.range86-178.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:38 -!- Juul [~Juul@171.66.191.111] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 16:52 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@pool-71-182-199-191.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:22 -!- augur_ [~augur@129-2-129-167.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:22 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:24 -!- augur_ [~augur@129-2-129-167.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:24 -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-66-27-117-179.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:25 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:57 < ParahSailin> that adapteva kickstarter looks like interesting processor arch 18:43 -!- HighSpeed [~dextro@CPEbcaec5a734bc-CM001bd713703a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:44 -!- HighSpeed is now known as Guest18399 18:44 -!- Guest18399 is now known as AdrianG 18:44 -!- AdrianG [~dextro@CPEbcaec5a734bc-CM001bd713703a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Changing host] 18:44 -!- AdrianG [~dextro@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:06 -!- AdrianG [~dextro@unaffiliated/amphetamine] has quit [Quit: AdrianG] 19:29 -!- joshcryer [g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:33 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:33 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:33 < joshcryer> foucist, "us vs them" from their side or our side? 19:34 < joshcryer> I don't follow their stuff because they don't do anything. 19:36 < foucist> joshcryer: i'm referring to the cognitive bias where people in groups form 'us vs them' mentality.. that can result in feeling competitive against the other group, or more negative type stuff, like hating on them, etc 19:37 < foucist> i.e. kanzure has developed an anti-lesswrong, anti-siai, anti-EY outlook as part of the basic 'us vs them' thinking 19:37 < foucist> heh 19:37 < foucist> joshcryer: and you've developed this thinking too? yay! 19:39 < joshcryer> foucist, I don't know that ambivalence can be considered "us vs them." Just explaining that I can see where kanzure comes from by having that sort of position. 19:39 < joshcryer> For me there exist no competition. 19:41 < joshcryer> Erm, I meant 'complacency' not 'ambivalence.' I confuse those too often. And I'm not sure if that's ironic. 19:42 < ParahSailin> the "us" is just this channel? 19:42 < ParahSailin> or 19:42 < ParahSailin> or are there more somewhere 19:43 < AlonzoTG> om 19:45 < joshcryer> Cool: http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/mit-challenge/ 19:54 -!- aristarchus [~aristarch@unaffiliated/aristarchus] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:54 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:58 < foucist> ParahSailin: i'm not being entirely serious :) 19:58 < ParahSailin> i dont really pay attention much, just know that kanzure thinks lw is furries 20:03 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@pool-71-182-199-191.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:05 < joshcryer> I didn't believe him about lw when he said that. 20:05 < joshcryer> Then I went there. 20:05 < joshcryer> Thought it was a joke. :) 20:08 < ParahSailin> i've read a couple "sequences," didnt notice any fetishes 20:16 < joshcryer> At the time the observation was made half the posts were bronies. They seemed to have calmed down about it though. (Heck, I got that Scott Young link from checking them out.) 20:24 < foucist> well i admit the bronies thing was pretty shocking 20:24 < foucist> i haven't gotten around to reading the equestria whatever book 20:24 < foucist> but i will 20:24 < foucist> book recommendations in lesswrong tend to be surprisingly good 20:27 < joshcryer> I'm fascinated that human motion models have not apparently changed much since the late '90s early 2000s. 20:29 < joshcryer> I found this dump: http://www.cbim.rutgers.edu/dmdocuments/ 20:30 < foucist> you hacker!! 20:30 < joshcryer> It seems that rather than build a model of human body motion constraints the whole field decided motion tracking was better. 20:30 < joshcryer> I guess it works to keep people employeed... 20:31 < joshcryer> And that's Google's fault. Apparently no robots.txt there. 20:32 < joshcryer> Dynamic Motion Synthesis is where it's at but it's fairly recent (last 5 years). 20:32 < joshcryer> And hasn't been used much in games as of yet. 20:34 < joshcryer> Ooh, getting closer. Found another dump: http://graphics.cs.cmu.edu/nsp/papers/ 20:39 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@pool-71-182-199-191.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:48 < joshcryer> If anyone wants to hook me up with this, I'd appreciate it: An embodied approach to arthropod animation 20:51 -!- armitage81 [~armitage@unaffiliated/armitage81] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 20:52 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:03 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:08 <@kanzure> back in austin 21:34 -!- Jora [~Jora@unaffiliated/jora] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:19 -!- Jora [~Jora@unaffiliated/jora] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:42 -!- Juul [~Juul@171.66.191.111] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:49 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@c-24-22-31-180.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:58 -!- Mokstar1 [~Nate@c-76-115-140-241.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:00 -!- Juul [~Juul@171.66.191.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:00 -!- Mokstar [~Nate@c-76-115-140-241.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:05 < nmz787> jrayhawk: ever hear of some kind of presentation of startup ideas that get voted on in several rounds, and at the end get funded? in the portland area... someone told me there is something like that around here 23:12 < jrayhawk> Haven't heard of it. 23:21 < nmz787> so we got a place, gonna unpack the trailer tomorrow 23:22 < nmz787> looks like its 21 mins from you 23:25 < jrayhawk> Let me know if you want help. 23:37 -!- sivoais [~zaki@199.19.225.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:39 < nmz787> you busy tomorrow? 23:39 < nmz787> or, are you free tomorrow? 23:40 -!- yashgaroth [~f@cpe-66-27-117-179.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:41 < joshcryer> nmz787, what you setting up / unpacking? What sort of place? 23:41 < joshcryer> :) 23:43 -!- sivoais [~zaki@199.19.225.239] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:43 < nmz787> apparently the place is already wired for ethernet and has a fiber box 23:44 < nmz787> its a ranch house, just unpacking a 6 ft x 12 ft trailer 23:44 < nmz787> furniture and books, tools and random stuff, clothes 23:45 < jrayhawk> Yeah, I'm probably fairly available tomorrow. 23:46 < joshcryer> Cool nmz787. :) 23:49 < nmz787> joshcryer: are you in portland? --- Log closed Sat Oct 27 00:00:07 2012