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06:23 < strangewarp> Building something concertely useful out of K'nex I still have from when I was a kid - feels very austerity chic
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08:17 < ThomasEgi> found a way to cut sausagase in a way they don't roll of my bread and look like chromosome at the same time.
08:17 < ThomasEgi> i'd call this day a success.
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09:18 < brownies> ThomasEgi: now *that* is innovation
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09:30 < nmz787> sausagesomes
09:30 <@kanzure> deep sea sausage sampling expedition: craig venter 4
09:31 < brownies> sausagenome
09:35 < nmz787> i think there's a southpark episode where they make fun of steve erwin
09:35 < nmz787> they could probably easy remake that with venter instead
09:35 <@kanzure> making fun of the dead is too easy
09:41 < nmz787> there's also this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmnVWhX1d-Y
09:41 < nmz787> Bum hunter - Steve Irwin wannabe
09:41 < nmz787> 'Gene Hunter'
09:44 < nmz787> this looks even better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjuuoax2KQY&feature=related
09:44 < nmz787> Bumfights creator kicked off Dr.Phil
09:51 <@kanzure> hey why isn't there a gene hunter tv show anyway?
09:52 <@kanzure> "crickey, today we're screening this pile of horse poop for new forms of bacteria! isn't it exciting."
09:53 <@kanzure> perhaps this is why i shouldn't go into television.
09:53 < brownies> not exactly Bill Nye material
09:53 < brownies> unless you can find a way to do gel electrophoresis with a giant tesla coil
09:53 <@kanzure> i am sure something can be arranged
09:57 < nmz787> i'd watch it
09:58 < nmz787> hell, i'd even buy a bryan bishop plush doll novelty item
09:58 <@kanzure> "I AM NOW ABOUT TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT IT IS LIKE TO GO THROUGH GEL ELECTROPHORESIS"
09:58 <@kanzure> 500 foot gel
10:00 < nmz787> how many pixels is the best size for 1920x1080?
10:00 < nmz787> s/pixels/inches/
10:09 < ThomasEgi> for what? television? depens on the distance to the screen
10:14 < jrayhawk> Five inches. That is a good number of inches.
10:14 < jrayhawk> http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/17/htc-j-butterfly-htl21-440ppi/
10:14 < jrayhawk> I love you, DPI wars
10:18 <@kanzure> i'm still trying to figure out a new laptop
10:18 < jrayhawk> voted w701ds
10:20 <@kanzure> apparently my mom worked on DRAM back in the day.
10:20 < jrayhawk> did she make pretty but uncomfortable furniture out of it
10:21 <@kanzure> nah i think she did technical documentation stuff
10:24 <@kanzure> why does newegg's RAM search only go up to 8 GB on laptops?
10:25 < jrayhawk> I don't think newegg carries the really high-end business laptops.
10:25 < nmz787> jrayhawk: can you pick up jules? my alternator is stuck, i got replacement bearings to try and fix it, as well as a reman alternator if that doesnt work
10:25 < nmz787> but i am reading about monitors in my nice clean chair, rather than getting greasy
10:26 < jrayhawk> Hmm. Probably. Do we have an appointment we need to keep?
10:26 < nmz787> no, when is good for you?
10:27 < jrayhawk> Maybe a couple hours. I need to eat and deal with email.
10:27 < nmz787> i need to call the guy and make sure he'll be there
10:27 < nmz787> jrayhawk: do you know any decent priced IPS screens with a pivot stand (portrait to landscape)
10:28 < jrayhawk> I usually just buy my own stands and rely on VESA mounts.
10:28 < jrayhawk> Ergotron has lots of cool reasonably cheap shit.
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10:34 < nmz787> ahh, so that Asus 21" you linked me, 'For added convenience, these monitors are VESA compatible, so you can neatly place it on a wall'
10:34 < nmz787> so I can just get a better stand?
10:35 < jrayhawk> kanzure: The generation 6 elitebooks look like they can do 32GB and are cheapish on the HP outlet http://h71016.www7.hp.com/html/hpremarketing/daily.asp?jumpid=re_R295_store/buspurchase-refurbished/computing/price-list
10:36 <@kanzure> jrayhawk: i'm just skeptical of this whole process
10:36 < nmz787> why?
10:37 <@kanzure> because it's a crapshoot. the most likely result is ending up with old/crap hardware.
10:38 <@kanzure> http://www.misco.co.uk/product/Q559823/Samsung-700G7C-S01UK-Intel-Core-i7-3610QM-17-3inch-16GB-1-5TB-Windows-7-Home-Prem-Laptop-Notebook-PC
10:38 <@kanzure> that seems to be an i7-3610QM with 16 GB RAM, but it's a bit on the cheap side for some reason
10:39 < jrayhawk> The W520 was the last Lenovo with the kickass keyboard, and that was only sixteen gigs
10:39 < jrayhawk> You'd have to move to a w530 to get 32.
10:40 <@kanzure> ah, well, 16 is probably okay, but i'd rather not end up with 2 or something stupid like that
10:42 < jrayhawk> If you're worried about upgradability, desktops are a lot better for that
10:44 < jrayhawk> that samsung you linked does not have a trackpoint
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15:25 <@kanzure> i wish there was some device that would punch me in the face every time i switch quoting styles "mid" 'sentence'
15:26 < nmz7871> come on over!
15:27 < ThomasEgi> kanzure, don't tell apple.. or they will build an iSmack
15:29 < jrayhawk> kanzure: i do that when i am mixing english and programming modalities
15:29 < jrayhawk> i don't feel all that guilty about it
15:31 <@kanzure> switching quoting styles mid-sentence is almost as bad as forgetting a closing bracket or parenthesis
15:31 < jrayhawk> clearly you need syntax highlighting for your english
15:33 <@kanzure> is sqoop even a thing?
15:33 <@kanzure> it looks like it might be an apache thing
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16:13 < Urchin> emacs can catch missmatches
16:13 < Urchin> though there might be real reasons for switching quote styles
16:13 < Urchin> like with nested quotes
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17:04 < nmz787> jrayhawk: so i'm about to buy the asus monitor
17:04 < nmz787> jrayhawk: but i was wondering if it would be the right size for portrait mode next to one of those korean 27"
17:04 < jrayhawk> ha, probably not
17:12 < jrayhawk> wait, no, i am apparently wrong
17:12 < jrayhawk> sqrt(1440^2+2560^2)/sqrt(1920^2+1080^2)*1440
17:12 < jrayhawk> 1919.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
17:13 < jrayhawk> err, no i guess that doesn't deal with the panel size, durr
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19:37 <@kanzure> http://wyolum.com/wyolum-innovation-grant-2012/ is giving out some small ($3k/each) grants for open hardware
20:18 < skorket> anybody want to apply for a grant with me?
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20:21 < skorket> wha?
20:22 <@kanzure> not really, what do you want $3k for?
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20:25 < skorket> I thought it was two $1k and 4 $250.  And mostly motivation
20:25 < skorket> Helps with the cost of the prototype
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20:27 < skorket> what's going on with nmz787?
20:27 < yashgaroth> multiple personality disorder
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20:35 <@kanzure> chido: pasky had a ping timeout :o
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21:06 < ParahSailin> whats wyolum
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21:07 <@kanzure> i assume something boring and uninteresting
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21:35 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone.
22:01 <@kanzure> ssh nanoengi@nanoengineer-1.net -p18765 "tar zcvf - ." > backup.tar
22:01 <@kanzure> will this do what i hope it does
22:01 <@kanzure> or did i get my dashes and periods swapped up
22:09 < JayDugger> secure shell as nanengi to nanoengineer-1.net on port 18765 and run the command "tar zcvf - ." and write its output to a local file backup.tar.
22:13 < JayDugger> tar zcvf - .
22:13 < JayDugger>  with verbose output create a compressed from input file "." to stdout "-"
22:13 < JayDugger> I think...
22:14 < JayDugger> I don't know if stdout on the remote machine will write back to a local file.
22:14 < JayDugger> Did it work?
22:15 < JayDugger> http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/9900/create-a-local-compressed-tarball-from-remote-host-directory
22:16 < JayDugger> Commandlinefu.com suggests it will.
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22:28 < jrayhawk> -p18765 is probably not a command, so that should go before the hostname
22:29 < jrayhawk> also you can leave off the quotes
22:29 < jrayhawk> also absent an -f, - is assumed
22:29 < jrayhawk> also if you want the full filesystem, you should go for /
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22:43 <@kanzure> jrayhawk: i got a few "tar: ./.nanoengi: Cannot open: Permission denied" errors
22:43 <@kanzure> is the .tar.gz file probably okay?
22:44 <@kanzure> jrayhawk: it's a shared hosting environment, so / is not reasonable
22:45 < jrayhawk> Yeah, the tar file will be complete other than whatever it didn't have access to.
22:46 < jrayhawk> oh and i guess 'backup.tar' is the wrong name
22:46 < jrayhawk> that should be backup.tar.gz
22:48 <@kanzure> yes, but each time i use zcvf you guys always complain that my tar files aren't gzipped and i should drop the .gz extension >:|
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23:13 <@kanzure> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb9tUFc9GPE
23:15 < ParahSailin> got a romney ad on that one
23:16 <@kanzure> wasn't my intention
23:16 <@kanzure> not quite what i was aiming for
23:17 < yashgaroth> youtube has ads?
23:17 <@kanzure> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834216021
23:17 <@kanzure> i guess that's not ideal for programming work
23:18 <@kanzure> and only 6 GB
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23:37 < jrayhawk> if i am complaining that your tar file isn't gzipped it's because you haven't used z
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23:39 < jrayhawk> every once in a while i try to use the web on somebody else's computer and i find out just how godawful everything is when you try to use firefox or chrome, such as youtube
23:39 < jrayhawk> youtube is the most amazingly awful video player i can imagine
23:40 < ParahSailin> realplayer
23:41 < jrayhawk> realplayer understood connection retries
23:41 < jrayhawk> the compression was awful, but it *worked*.
23:42 < jrayhawk> half the time i seek in a youtube video it will throw away data, inexplicably halt until the rest of the video loads, or just halt regardless
23:43 < jrayhawk> the web is such a worthless shithole, i do not understand how people tolerate it
23:43 < jrayhawk> i mean the standards the web is based on, not so much the content of the web itself
23:48 <@kanzure> flash is not a standard, it's more like a bad decision
23:49 < jrayhawk> youtube/chrome is just as bad without flash
23:49 < jrayhawk> i guess i haven't tried flashless youtube/firefox
23:50 < jrayhawk> this is a good song, though
23:50 < jrayhawk> in mplayer :)
23:51 < jrayhawk> heavy and careful focus on sample filtering/texturing, like Boards of Canada
23:51 <@kanzure> yeah it turns out that 2 out of 3 of my speaker systems are awful and really can't play this
23:52 < jrayhawk> i recommend 2000 watt JBLs
23:52 < jrayhawk> i find speakers of less spatial volume than me to be adorable, now
23:53 < jrayhawk> "people play music on these things?"
23:57 <@kanzure> wow system76 makes it hilariously easy to spec out a $4000 desktop
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