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joined ##hplusroadmap 17:54 < kanzure> does anyone remember the link to the article about mobile network security, something about gsm vulnerabilities and network operators piggybacking on each other? 17:55 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:06 < AdrianG> interesting 18:06 < AdrianG> pl0x repost 18:23 -!- lcaurnat is now known as rarity 18:58 -!- rarity [~doomboxsa@75.105.12.23] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:59 -!- wtf [~doomboxsa@75.105.12.23] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:06 -!- wtf is now known as yolo 19:22 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@c-98-222-49-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:31 -!- Guest74156 [~quassel@64.31.59.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:44 -!- ParahSailin_ [~parah@adsl-69-151-150-200.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:45 -!- ParahSailin [~parah@adsl-69-151-150-200.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:45 -!- 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different beeps i am currently waiting for 21:49 < kanzure> maybe i need some voice system 21:49 < kanzure> "THE TORRENT IS DONE" 21:49 < kanzure> "THAT REALLY LONG SCRIPT THAT YOU STARTED LAST NIGHT IS DONE" 22:02 < foucist> kanzure: are you using tmux? 22:02 < kanzure> yes 22:03 < foucist> well you can probably get the status line to handle alerts like that 22:03 < kanzure> it would be nice to get different tonal beeps through tmux over ssh 22:03 < kanzure> but, still, i think it would be even better to just pipe small reminder strings over sms 22:04 < kanzure> ./longtask.sh | twilio sms "yo dude your shit is done" 22:04 < kanzure> erm i mean, semicolon 22:27 -!- Charlie [~quassel@64.31.59.70] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:28 -!- Charlie is now known as Guest87964 22:31 -!- Guest87964 [~quassel@64.31.59.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:40 -!- user123abc [~sally@c-67-171-79-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:47 -!- Simurg [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:56 -!- drethelin1 [~drethelin@76-255-17-124.lightspeed.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:12 < drethelin1> so do poeple actually talk in here 23:12 < kanzure> it seems to be correlated with how much i talk 23:12 < kanzure> so i've been trying to talk less and this has been a disaster 23:13 < yashgaroth> also 11pm-2am on a saturday isn't exactly prime time 23:13 < kanzure> sure it is.. 23:13 < drethelin1> haha 23:14 < drethelin1> once you get enough population you shouldn't need prime time to have conversations 23:14 < kanzure> well we also have a bunch of idlers 23:14 < drethelin1> yeah but idlers are just talkers waiting to happen! 23:15 < foucist> ^ 23:15 * foucist slinks back into lurk mode 23:15 < kanzure> foucist: stop lurking and do more interesting things 23:15 * foucist silently cries 23:16 < foucist> doing interesting things is mutually exclusive to chatting in this channel unfortunately 23:16 < foucist> or irc in general i mean 23:17 < drethelin1> well yeah that's why I chat so much 23:17 < yashgaroth> so what brings you to the channel 23:17 < foucist> kanzure: if you wanted more convos started then perhaps some sort of feed of relevant tidbits would get more going 23:17 < drethelin1> like gwern 23:18 < foucist> drethelin1: nah, nothing like that 23:18 < kanzure> i used to be gwern 23:18 < foucist> besides #lesswrong is chatty enough that i can jump in and troll somebody anytime 23:18 < kanzure> but it turns out that pasting shit like gwern does isn't a good way to keep people around 23:18 < foucist> no shit 23:18 < drethelin1> eh, I like it 23:18 < kanzure> yes i like it just fine too 23:18 < foucist> drethelin1: you're suffering a cognitive bias 23:19 < kanzure> but again, it creates a dependency and whenever i leave for a week, things die 23:19 < drethelin1> no I'm not I read the sequences! 23:19 < drethelin1> that made me immune 23:19 < foucist> drethelin1: your perception has been warped!! 23:19 < foucist> heh 23:19 < kanzure> drethelin1: btw, this is the oldest transhumanist channel in existence 23:19 < foucist> sequences don't make you immune :P 23:19 < kanzure> lesswrong is younger 23:19 < drethelin1> how old 23:19 < kanzure> 4 years. 23:19 < drethelin1> WOW 23:19 < kanzure> all the others died. like that old lucifer server. 23:19 < foucist> /msg chanserv about ##hplusroadmap 23:19 < kanzure> nope use #hplusroadmap 23:20 < kanzure> because the freenode staffers moved us 23:20 < kanzure> http://gnusha.org/logs/ 23:20 < drethelin1> why is there two ##s 23:21 < foucist> freenode for "about" 23:21 < kanzure> yeah it turns out they have a naming policy 23:21 < drethelin1> I hope people other than #lesswrongers talk in this channel 23:21 < drethelin1> or why did I even joi 23:21 < drethelin1> join 23:22 < foucist> they do 23:22 < foucist> the bio guys and the hardware guys and the libertarian whackjobs 23:22 < kanzure> who's the libertarian? 23:22 < foucist> i dunno 23:22 < strangewarp> I would chat about stuff in here, but it'd be like... music hacking... shitty politics... end of list 23:23 -!- nmz787 [~Nathan@static-50-43-43-17.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:23 < kanzure> nmz787: yo 23:23 < kanzure> drethelin1: usually our stuff is this stuff http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/ 23:23 < kanzure> and this stuff http://diyhpl.us/cgit 23:24 < drethelin1> can I bioluminesce yet 23:24 < drethelin1> have you guys gotten on that 23:24 < foucist> we can biolumin your cats 23:24 < kanzure> yashgaroth: perhaps i should make that a bannable offense 23:24 < foucist> it's like the first diybio hack ever 23:24 < yashgaroth> eurgh 23:25 < drethelin1> those cats aren't bioluminescent 23:25 < drethelin1> they're fluorescent 23:25 < foucist> oh, glow in the dark? 23:25 < foucist> same thing? 23:25 < foucist> heh 23:25 < kanzure> no it's not the same thing 23:25 < drethelin1> they need a blacklight to glow 23:25 < drethelin1> bioluminescence is like, fireflies 23:26 < foucist> man what a gyp.. i've been lied to! 23:26 < yashgaroth> ok well I'll play it straight and say that you won't be luminescing or fluorescing yourself for a while, until we figure out the whole 'immune system' thing 23:26 < drethelin1> well I can already fluoresce 23:26 < yashgaroth> go see a doctor 23:26 < yashgaroth> unless you've got a subdermal flashlight, in which case...go see a doctor 23:27 < foucist> yashgaroth: aids virus isn't good enough? 23:27 < kanzure> foucist: do you enjoy being immune compromised? 23:27 < yashgaroth> the key was there all along! brb going to africa 23:27 < foucist> ;) 23:28 < foucist> ok well i doubt that we're gonna figure out the 'immune system' thing without forcibly replacing the immune system along with whatever changes we're making.. or nanotechnology 23:28 < yashgaroth> nah eventually we'll figure out a way to ablate all the possible responding immune cells 23:29 < foucist> and we can figure out nanotech pretty quick if we just apply some good ole fashioned AI to it 23:29 < kanzure> drethelin1: have you seen https://github.com/kanzure/nanoengineer#readme 23:29 < yashgaroth> and we can build that AI with nanotechnology 23:29 < foucist> yashgaroth: i wasn't implying a singular AI 23:29 < drethelin1> oh man can I use that thing to make me some grey goo in my 3d printer 23:30 < yashgaroth> foucist, nor I 23:32 < foucist> then, s/build/improve 23:32 < kanzure> drethelin1: it depends on your 3d printer and your definition of grey goo 23:32 < foucist> AI -> nano -> AI++ -> nano++ etc, feedback loop brah 23:32 -!- Charlie [~quassel@64.31.59.70] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:33 -!- Charlie is now known as Guest62780 23:33 < yashgaroth> oh no I was just making a joke about each relying on the other to come about 23:49 < foucist> kanzure: peeps should talk more about all the web dev they're doing in here :P 23:50 < kanzure> well, yashgaroth was complaining that the web development scares off the biologists 23:50 < drethelin1> I can't talk competently about either! 23:50 < yashgaroth> ehh just ignore me 23:51 < drethelin1> even though i'm somewhat involved in both 23:52 < foucist> well maybe the bio guys should join #diybio 23:52 < foucist> focused channels are nice.. if you can get critical mass of course 23:52 < kanzure> i tell everyone in #diybio to just come here 23:52 < foucist> diybio is a much catchier name 23:52 < foucist> people know wtf it is at a glance 23:52 < chido> but this channel is more fun 23:52 < foucist> without ever having heard of the movement before 23:52 < yashgaroth> wow it really is just a bunch of people from here in #diybio 23:53 < foucist> ##hplusroadmap is the gayest name 23:53 < foucist> no offense to the gays 23:53 < drethelin1> yeah is this channel even about road maps 23:53 < drethelin1> can I get driving directions please 23:53 < drethelin1> heroin plus roadmaps 23:55 -!- delinquentme 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