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00:42 < abetusk> see the kerfuffle on kickstarter?
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02:04 < archels> Feed My Inbox will be shutting down on January 10, 2013.
02:04 < archels> argh, two dozen RSS feed to re-sign up to.
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09:27 <@kanzure> bloop
09:35 < chido> 23andme is expensive
09:38 < curt1s> it got more expensive yeah
09:38 < curt1s> i did it when it was only $99
09:38 <@kanzure> actually they offer a cheap $999 whole exome sequencing package
09:39 <@kanzure> but when i last checked they didn't have a button on their site to order that
09:39 < chido> how did it get even more expensive when the technology is getting cheaper? or isn't it?
09:40 <@kanzure> whole exome sequencing was never cheap
09:40 < chido> I'll wait until I can pay $999 for the whole sequence I guess
09:40 <@kanzure> 23andme sells their kit at a loss because they make it up on subscription fees
09:40 < chido> I meant the genotyping they offer, I remember it being less than $299
09:41 < curt1s> kanzure: for a little while they were doing $99 plus a year subscription
09:41 <@kanzure> yesterday it was $50
09:41 < curt1s> thats when i got in
09:41 < curt1s> wtf
09:41 < curt1s> missed that
09:41 < curt1s> oh well
09:41 < chido> ah well, I'll wait another year
09:41 < curt1s> maybe by next cyber monday it'll be $20
09:41 < chido> how much is the subscription?
09:41 <@kanzure> chido: your genome isn't changing much between now and then, huh?
09:42 < chido> kanzure: I hope it isn't at least
09:42 < chido> with all the radiation sources at our hackerspace...
09:43 < curt1s> heh
09:43 < curt1s> i failed my first dna test
09:43 < curt1s> they sent me another kit
09:44 < curt1s> not enough cells or something
09:44 < curt1s> :\
09:44 <@kanzure> 23andme was running optimizely experiments yesterday to try to do price testing
09:44 <@kanzure> so they were doing $49, $69, $89, $299, etc.
09:44 <@kanzure> https://www.23andme.com/special_offer/49NOV2012/
09:45 <@kanzure> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&q=cache%3Anews.ycombinator.com%2Fitem%3Fid%3D4834859&oq=cache%3Anews.ycombinator.com%2Fitem%3Fid%3D4834859&gs_l=serp.3...44609.46024.0.46252.7.6.0.0.0.0.176.818.1j5.6.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.oVb3j5OTqEE
09:45 <@kanzure> run this in your javascript console:
09:45 <@kanzure>   document.cookie = 'optimizelyBuckets=' + escape('{"145285685":"145865258"}') + '; domain=.23andme.com'; document.location.reload(true);
09:45 < chido> failing a DNA test is almost more awesome than failing a Turing test
09:45 <@kanzure> also you might have to empty your cart first:
09:45 <@kanzure> window.$.ajax({url:'/special_offer/49NOV2012/?json=true'})
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14:13 < ThomasEgi> http://www.examiner.com/article/uae-fears-anonymous-bans-guy-fawkes-mask
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14:20 < juri_> http://rt.com/news/anonymous-sabu-pleads-guilty-993/
14:20 < juri_> snitch, get 120 years in prison.
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14:39 < mutagen> lol sabu
14:39 < mutagen> hammond studied under me for a while
14:39 < mutagen> one of those 'your training is not done young jedi' things
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14:55 < Mariu> what's a sabu ?
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15:00 < dr_illuminati> hacker shit
15:32 <@kanzure> "After only 39 days of existence, we passed hplusmagazine.com in global traffic (alexa.com)"
15:32 <@kanzure> well duh, hplusmagazine.com got like zero hits/day
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15:40 < jenga> hi
15:41 <@kanzure> jenga: hello
15:41 < Urchin[Emacs]> hello
15:42 < jenga> Any body do Chemically induced LTP?
15:42 < Urchin[Emacs]> a what?
15:42 <@kanzure> all long-term potentiation is chemical, what are you talking about?
15:43 < jenga> =]
15:43 < jenga> http://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/vfsn0/the_ciltep_stack_chemically_induced_longterm
15:59 < jenga> ?
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16:54 < jrayhawk> http://blog.ted.com/2012/09/21/tinker-tailor-solderer-fellows-friday-with-catarina-mota/ OSHA understand media relations apparently!
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17:10 <@kanzure> jrayhawk: yes it's all the oreilly/makemag people. oreilly is just a giant media company.
17:10 < jrayhawk> ah
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17:23 <@kanzure> hrm something about lemnos labs doing a rentable satellite thing?
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17:48 <@kanzure> tashoutang: welcome back
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20:04 < tashoutang>  yeah
20:04 < tashoutang> sorry recently I am busy for middle exam for students
20:05 < tashoutang> :)
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20:33 < abetusk> http://imgur.com/7Srmh  .  Not perfect but good enough I think
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20:43 < fenn> milled 20 mil traces?
20:44 < fenn> do a circle test to measure your backlash. you'll see corners on the circle if there is any
20:46 < abetusk> fenn, yeah, I did a circle test, couldn't see anything.  This test is pretty good though.  Each cleared out track is actually made up of three separate line segments (that is 3 'dashes') cut in random order
20:46 < abetusk> Two iterations ago I saw major backlash issues.  Re-tightening the backlash nut a few times gave these results
20:47 < abetusk> again, not perfect, but still pretty decent
20:47 < abetusk> good enough for what I want to do
20:47 < abetusk> I'm not sure I can get much better with the system as is
20:47 < ParahSailin> tell me what im looking at
20:47 < yashgaroth> yeah can I get a scale bar or something
20:48 < abetusk> A pitch test, with spacing at 20mil.  Each cleared out track is actually composed of three different equal length tracks, each milled out in a random order
20:48 < abetusk> horizontal and vertical test
20:48 < fenn> for reference, 20 mil is 500 microns
20:48 < abetusk> measured trace width to be in the 8-10mil range.  Clearance in the 10-12 mil range
20:48 < yashgaroth> ah thank you fenn
20:48 < ParahSailin> you milled what with what?
20:48 < abetusk> mil = thousandth of an inch = .0254mm
20:49 < abetusk> it's a PCB, copper on FR4 with my CNC
20:50 < abetusk> hardware is a kit bought from Zen Toolworks, electronics is pololu stepper drivers a4988, arduino running grbl and a junker ubuntu installation to communicate with the arduino (actually seeeduino).  Stepper motors are 1.7A, 0.9 degree per step
20:50 < ParahSailin> how much it all cost?
20:50 < abetusk> I think I'm in $600-700 now
20:51 < abetusk> I also bought a higher precision spindle, and that was pretty costly
20:51 < abetusk> maybe $500-600...
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21:24 <@kanzure> http://blog.cloudflare.com/ceasefires-dont-end-cyberwars
21:24 <@kanzure> "While previous conflicts have included the use of cyber attacks by one side or the other, in this case supporters of both sides appear to be launching cyber offensives. At CloudFlare, we've been caught in the cross fire. That's allowed us a unique vantage point to report on what we're seeing."
21:24 <@kanzure> oh just ddos attacks. that's not exciting.
21:26 <@kanzure> so do people sign up for cloudfare when they are experiencing a ddos, and then they stop paying? or what.
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22:01 < nmz787> kanzure: i found a new paper http://www.bioeng.nus.edu.sg/people/PI/trau/Papers/Wang_Trau_Oligo%20synthesis%20and%20detection_BB_26_2011.pdf
22:11 < nmz787> 'This work was fully supported by the Defence Research
22:11 < nmz787> and Technology Ofce of the Singapore Ministry of Defence
22:11 < nmz787> (POD0412401)'
22:19 < brownies> kanzure: afaict, cloudflare is an exciting new SaaS app that occasionally and randomly replaces your entire site with the cloudflare 404 page.
22:19 <@kanzure> brownies: ah so you can replace your uncertain unreliability with absolute unreliability?
22:20 < brownies> kanzure: there's nothing like peace of mind!
22:21 <@kanzure> nmz787: gnabbed it.
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