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00:46 < fenn> the most depressing blog i've read in a long while: http://weev.livejournal.com/
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03:01 < fenn> good morning thomas
03:01 < ThomasEgi> mornin
03:09 < ThomasEgi> sup fenn ?
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03:11 < fenn> reading https://github.com/jwise/28c3-doctorow/blob/master/transcript.md of http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html#disqus_thread
03:13 < fenn> and poking around with my old electronics components boxes
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03:44 < fenn> "I take a prescription that costs about $40 a day , and in countries where it's an over the counter drug , it would cost about 20 cents.
03:44 < fenn> If I had the time and didn't have the insurance it would be cheaper to fly to France than walk to my Brooklyn pharmacy for a refill."
04:06 < ThomasEgi> where money can be extracted from people. money will be extracted
04:07 < ThomasEgi> sorta reminds me of my old chemistry teacher who didn't trust any docs or medication. first thing he did when getting prescriptions after a brain stroke, analyzing the drugs in the school lab for several days
04:08 < fenn> seems like a reasonable thing to do if you have the equipment
04:08 < ThomasEgi> at least. that's what he told us. he also drew the entire lsd sythetication process onto the blackboard (by head)because someone asked him how he got interested in chemistry.
04:08 < fenn> "is this actually what it's claimed to be"
04:09 < ThomasEgi> hehe. indeed.
04:10 < fenn> "iatrogenic illness" is the third leading cause of death(?) in america, and a large part of that is improperly filled prescriptions
04:10 < ThomasEgi> well with my chem-teacher. i'm really not sure. one year later we found him playing in a local theater with all-nude scenes. the guy was 60+ at that time
04:10 < fenn> sounds like a pretty rad dude
04:11 < ThomasEgi> he was one of the best teachers i ever had^
04:11 < ThomasEgi> lessons were fun, i learned a lot
04:12 < ThomasEgi> he was the sorta, like an old pirate. "well usualy this stuff is too dangerous to do at schools, but let's blow shit up anyway"
04:13 < ThomasEgi> one guy was always overtired. so he taught him how to synth caffeine.
04:13 < ThomasEgi> funny teacher. the world needs more of this kind
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09:50 < nmz787_pocket> Kanzure how do a echo last line in file to sh
09:50 <@kanzure> tail -n 1 blah.dat
09:52 <@kanzure> "I was told that 3D printed metal parts have very poor properties.  I was under the impression that they were solid and strong.  What do you say?"
09:52 <@kanzure> what should i tell this guy
09:53 < ThomasEgi> to get a tour at a manufactory for laser sintering
09:53 < ThomasEgi> the only poor property is the surface.
09:53 <@kanzure> oh are we considering laser sintering and sls to be 3d printing?
09:54 < ThomasEgi> how else do you want to print metal?
09:56 < nmz787_pocket> Wat about crystal structure
09:56 < nmz787_pocket> Tell him to read up on thar
09:57 <@kanzure> ThomasEgi: reflow casting
09:57 <@kanzure> i dunno
10:00 < ThomasEgi> iir reflow casting was prone to shrinking due to the fill factor?
10:00 < ThomasEgi> leading to pores inside the metal.
10:01 < mgodinho> kanzure: I've read already a few times that sintering is being used in aeronatical parts... it sounds demanding on quality. (and on the price of the 'printer')
10:02 < ThomasEgi> makse me want to go a lego-like way. using tiny dodecahedron , metal and ceramic ones. to build a gap-free mold filled with metal. and then reflowing
10:03 < ThomasEgi> guess manufactoring perfect dodecahedrons of that size is a bit uneconomic
10:04 < nmz787_pocket> Unless they're self forming somehow
10:05 < nmz787_pocket> I know jenlaur metal are nice ppl, prob open to these kinda questions
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11:00 <@kanzure> why gnu grep is fast http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2010-August/019310.html
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11:03 <@kanzure> or another one about grep http://ridiculousfish.com/blog/posts/old-age-and-treachery.html
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11:06 <@kanzure> hmm i didn't know about --mmap
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11:16 <@kanzure> is it possible to set a spider web on fire?
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11:18 < yashgaroth> probably, but I'd prefer experimental confirmation
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17:34 <@kanzure> http://www.vulture.com/2012/11/which-james-bond-villain-plan-would-have-worked.html
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18:55 <@kanzure> yashgaroth: what was the telomerase study where they disabled telomerase, then added it back in and pretended it was a miracle?
19:30 < AdrianG> what study is that
19:30 < AdrianG> pls elaborate, sounds familiar
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21:35 <@kanzure> i need a hostname for a new laptop. any suggestions?
21:54 < abetusk> evening all
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21:54 <@kanzure> last laptop was pikachu.. i'm going with raichu. pikablue will have to wait.
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22:19 < brownies> you name them after pokemon? hilarious.
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23:02 < abetusk> ha, whoops, wrong channel
23:02 < abetusk> this is the one I wanted to message you in
23:03 < abetusk> no wonder you were asking why I was in there
23:03 <@kanzure> yeah
23:03 <@kanzure> dvorak.. cnc... i must be missing something.
23:03 < abetusk> no, me not focusing the right channel
23:09 < chido> kanzure: raichu is way better than pikachu
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23:37 < sylph_mako> Heh. My laptop is called Lunar. Deeply symbolic, connoting its nature as a satellite mind, of sorts, constantly interacting with the central body but never unified.
23:39 < sylph_mako> Sometimes I feel as though it's an extension of my mind due to my outlook on technology, so I think it's healthy to remind myself of its separate nature.
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23:43 < yashgaroth> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v469/n7328/full/nature09603.html I think
23:43 < yashgaroth> somehow it got into Nature, no comment
23:43 < yashgaroth> time for sleep
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