--- Log opened Thu Feb 07 00:00:53 2013 00:02 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:23 -!- Mariu [Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:30 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:36 <@kanzure> pdfparanoia discussion stuff: 00:36 <@kanzure> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/diybio/o6irBNeCmrE 00:46 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:28 -!- ielo [~ielo@134.219.227.25] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:29 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=f89963c9 Bryan Bishop: list of modification projects 01:30 <@kanzure> "Hacked microbes introduced into oral microbiome to fight cavities" 01:30 <@kanzure> "Skin lighteningGENESLC24ASmulti billion $/year industry in Asia." 01:31 <@kanzure> "Straight hairGENEP2RY5 (?)grow straight hair. Multi billion $/year industry in US" 01:32 <@kanzure> his orgasmotron is dumb, you have to target the pedundal nerves not the spine -_- 01:33 <@kanzure> "Baby, this is a gene therapy that causes semen to sweeten like hot syrup. A gene mod to the Cowper’s gland that makes your semen contain a ton more fructose than normal. Perhaps also add other minor flavorings to round out the taste." 01:38 <@kanzure> eh. 01:39 < superkuh> What are you quoting from? 01:39 <@kanzure> the thing i added to diyhpluswiki.git 01:39 <@kanzure> it's from rich lee 01:41 <@kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/genetic-modifications.csv 01:42 < superkuh> I don't think targeting the dorsal spinal nerve bundles is dumb. That's where stewart mallory (or however his name is spelled) did it with direct electrical stimulation in exploratory surgery for correcting chronic pain. 01:42 <@kanzure> chido has a few friends who are doing nerve stimulation for similar purposes, maybe she will drop a link to what their project actually is 01:45 <@kanzure> i don't see how the chronic pain is the same; is there any experimental evidence that this nerve bundle is the right one? i don't even know where the pedundal nerve loops back to. 01:45 < superkuh> sacral. 01:45 < superkuh> And yes. 01:46 < superkuh> I used to have the articles. 01:47 < superkuh> It was during exploratory surgery for electrical stimulation to correct chronic pain that the effect was found. 01:47 < superkuh> That's the only relation. 01:47 <@kanzure> "It originates in Onuf's nucleus in the sacral region of the spinal cord, and travels in the S2-S4 nerves of the sacral plexus." 01:47 <@kanzure> ah. 01:47 < superkuh> For male rats. 01:48 < superkuh> ? 01:48 <@kanzure> just quoting wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pudendal_nerve 01:48 < superkuh> "Stuart Meloy" 01:50 < superkuh> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican/journal/v300/n5/full/scientificamerican0509-22.html 01:50 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Turn%20It%20Up%2C%20Dear.pdf 01:51 < superkuh> Eh, nevermind. Not very useful. 01:52 <@kanzure> why is there a picture of a anthropomorphic microcontroller smoking a cigarette in a nature publication 01:52 < superkuh> Between T9 and T10. 01:52 <@kanzure> sciam publication. oh that explains it. 01:52 < superkuh> Not in the sacral like the pudenal nerves. 01:54 < superkuh> http://www.google.com/patents/US20100222858 01:56 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=0ef3debc Bryan Bishop: prevent a catastrophic error in paper retrieval 01:56 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers 01:56 < paperbot> gnusha: (version: 2013-02-07 09:56:15) 01:56 < superkuh> Unfortunately TMS of the spine is very variable with coil shape and placement due to the funky shape and changes in dielectric constant of the spine bone messing up the induced electrical field. 01:57 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:58 < archels> superkuh: but TMS is magnetic induction. How does the permittivity come into play? 02:00 < superkuh> I don't know. That is what I read long ago. Thinking of it know I supposed it just makes the current paths from the induced field all twisted and inhomogeneous. 02:00 < superkuh> s/know/now/ 02:00 < superkuh> I am certain I read multiple papers about the failure of spinal magnetic stimulation with both pancake and butterfly coils. 02:01 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:02 < superkuh> It's not that the electrical field is not induced. Just that the current density is unpredictable. 02:05 -!- ielo [~ielo@134.219.227.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:08 < archels> right. H-field induces E-field, then E-field induces currents 02:08 -!- ielo [~ielo@134.219.227.25] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:33 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:42 < nmz787> http://www.google.com/patents/US7910292 02:42 < nmz787> "The present invention provides a lithographic process "...." The invention also discloses a reciprocating microengine (10) comprising a cylinder (14), piston (12) and crankshaft made by the process." 02:43 < nmz787> the drawings SUCKASS though 03:08 -!- indigenous [~indigenou@pdpc/supporter/student/indigenous] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:10 -!- indigenous [~indigenou@85.210.238.54] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:10 -!- indigenous [~indigenou@85.210.238.54] has quit [Changing host] 03:10 -!- indigenous [~indigenou@pdpc/supporter/student/indigenous] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:19 -!- ManaLord [~root@c-e4afe455.37-0081-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:29 -!- ManaLord [~root@c-e4afe455.37-0081-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:46 -!- ielo [~ielo@134.219.227.25] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:46 -!- ielo [~ielo@134.219.227.25] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:47 < ielo> fenn, hi 04:01 -!- ielo [~ielo@134.219.227.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:11 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@pool-96-231-37-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:34 -!- Hu_Meanan [~quassel@unaffiliated/humean] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:35 -!- ielo [~ielo@134.219.227.25] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:46 -!- Hu_Meanan [~quassel@199.48.197.18] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:46 -!- Hu_Meanan [~quassel@199.48.197.18] has quit [Changing host] 04:46 -!- Hu_Meanan [~quassel@unaffiliated/humean] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:48 -!- HARMANZ [~quassel@199.48.197.18] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:50 -!- HARMANZ [~quassel@199.48.197.18] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00 -!- ielo [~ielo@134.219.227.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:07 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:21 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:30 -!- yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:30 -!- yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Changing host] 05:30 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:30 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:51 -!- Hu_Meanan [~quassel@unaffiliated/humean] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:03 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:06 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:17 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:31 -!- DaZ [~derp@77-255-247-66.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:40 -!- Guest58727 [~derp@77-253-91-250.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:41 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:41 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has quit [Changing host] 07:41 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:50 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:54 -!- archbox [~archie@unaffiliated/archbox] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:31 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:32 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:46 -!- yorick_ [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:46 -!- yorick_ [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Changing host] 08:46 -!- yorick_ [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:47 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:47 -!- Guest58727 is now known as DaZ 08:50 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:51 -!- yorick_ is now known as yorick 08:58 -!- soylentbomb [~k@d149-67-118-140.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:58 -!- soylentbomb [~k@d149-67-118-140.col.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Changing host] 08:58 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:38 -!- ManaLord [~ManaLord@c-e4afe455.37-0081-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:39 < ManaLord> biohacking... hacking out the kidneys of people and selling them? is that what's going on in here? 09:40 < chris_99> i hope not 09:41 < ManaLord> well, it's in the greeting-message... 09:41 < chris_99> heh so it is 09:42 < ManaLord> but I'm more interested in the dimensions available for healthy people: like nootropics... 09:43 < chris_99> mm, i think theres some people into that 09:44 < ManaLord> hmmm, I see, so what else, implanted android phones? 09:45 < ManaLord> at least that's probably where a lot of tech for biohacking will come out of... 09:55 -!- ManaLord [~ManaLord@c-e4afe455.37-0081-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:55 -!- DaZ [~derp@77-253-91-250.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:59 -!- archbox [~archie@unaffiliated/archbox] has quit [Quit: bye] 10:00 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:14 -!- Guest39123 [~derp@87-205-171-13.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:15 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:40 -!- Guest39123 is now known as DaZ 10:40 -!- DaZ is now known as Guest61999 10:47 <@kanzure> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130204/12241621879/eu-commission-wants-more-copyright-licensing-not-creative-commons-fair-use.shtml 10:47 -!- yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:47 -!- yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Changing host] 10:47 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:47 <@kanzure> http://www.nature.com/news/researchers-opt-to-limit-uses-of-open-access-publications-1.12384 10:47 <@kanzure> http://blog.okfn.org/2013/01/08/consequences-risks-and-side-effects-of-the-license-module-non-commercial-use-only-2/ 11:04 <@kanzure> for whatever reason, i sent the pdfparanoia announcement to a group of librarians 11:04 <@kanzure> and now they are quoting me silly regulations 11:04 <@kanzure> "The IEEE Academic license says we cannot " remove, obscure or modify in any way copyright notices, other notices or disclaimers that appear on Articles or eBooks or in the Licensed Products."" 11:04 <@kanzure> "I am guessing that this and other language in the license would be interpreted that modification to PDFs would not be acceptable. The IEEE license is pretty common of many of our licenses." 11:04 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:04 <@kanzure> well, then don't use it sillyhead 12:01 -!- Hu_Meanan [~quassel@199.48.197.18] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:01 -!- Hu_Meanan [~quassel@199.48.197.18] has quit [Changing host] 12:01 -!- Hu_Meanan [~quassel@unaffiliated/humean] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:07 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:18 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1934590912006443 12:18 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Loss%20of%20Dickkopf-1%20Restores%20Neurogenesis%20in%20Old%20Age%20and%20Counteracts%20Cognitive%20Decline.txt 12:18 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=MiamiImageURL&_cid=274143&_user=1694017&_pii=S1934590912006443&_check=y&_origin=article&_zone=toolbar&_coverDate=2013--07&view=c&originContentFamily=serial&wchp=dGLbVlB-zSkWA&pid=1-s2.0-S1934590912006443-main.pdf&_valck=1&md5=c189654c6fd0d18dcecf6a2b280ef36b&ie=/sdarticle.pdf 12:18 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/2aaf9554321254c97c3e42030a102efd.txt 12:18 <@kanzure> bah 12:18 < ParahSailin> http://www.eurekagenomics.com is hiring 12:19 <@kanzure> what do they want to hire 12:19 < ParahSailin> a guy who can program 12:19 <@kanzure> remote? 12:20 < ParahSailin> send resume in to vyfofanov@eurekagenomics.com 12:20 < ParahSailin> from time to time, people have worked remotely here 12:20 -!- soylentbomb [~k@d149-67-118-140.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:20 -!- soylentbomb [~k@d149-67-118-140.col.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Changing host] 12:20 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:21 <@kanzure> that's encouraging 12:21 <@kanzure> okay, email sent. 12:23 < ParahSailin> our indian guy spent a month over there last year, working remotely, and he had done that before when he had visa issues 12:25 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:31 < ParahSailin> btw, eg is definitely looking for a guy to help out with web dev 12:32 -!- ArmilusDajjal [~safitan@75-105-12-23.cust.wildblue.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:32 < ParahSailin> our sysadmin/webdev is pretty swamped at the moment 12:33 <@kanzure> same person? 12:34 < ParahSailin> well, its a small place 12:34 < ParahSailin> it's down to 5 people in this office as of today 12:40 -!- ArmilusDajjal [~safitan@75-105-12-23.cust.wildblue.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:48 <@kanzure> "The Dewey Decimal Classification (DDC), or Dewey Decimal System, is a proprietary library classification system created by Melvil Dewey in 1876.[1] It has been revised and expanded through 23 major editions, the latest issued in 2011.[2]" 12:48 <@kanzure> so how is dewey decimal still in copyright? the older editions should be out of copyright. 13:00 <@kanzure> wow, ipython is much more active than i thought it would be 13:00 <@kanzure> https://github.com/ipython/ipython/issues 13:00 <@kanzure> 463 open issues, 2431 closed issues 13:03 <@kanzure> https://github.com/ipython/ipython/issues/1286 13:03 <@kanzure> https://github.com/ipython/ipython/issues/2486 13:03 <@kanzure> these issues are the worst. when i reverse search in ipython sometimes it executes a line i don't want. 13:09 <@kanzure> is .mailmap a git feature? https://github.com/ipython/ipython/blob/master/.mailmap 13:14 -!- Qasaur [~qasaur@h21n1c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:20 < Qasaur> Hey 13:26 <@kanzure> Qasaur: hello 13:27 < Qasaur> so 13:27 < Qasaur> I just recently started looking into DIYBio 13:27 < Qasaur> and it seems awesome! 13:27 < Qasaur> How do I get started? 13:27 <@kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq 13:27 < Qasaur> thanks kaz 13:27 < Qasaur> kanzure* 13:28 -!- Qasaur [~qasaur@h21n1c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 13:28 <@kanzure> uh. 13:47 < ThomasEgi> i wonder what that qasaur guy will put in his report about the potetial threat from DIYBio communities and how we should all be put on some terror watchlist 14:03 -!- underscor [~quassel@199.96.82.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:19 < ParahSailin> kanzure: lol, you really started your email with "Yo"? 14:24 < nmz787> ThomasEgi: why do you think he's writing something? 14:27 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:27 <@kanzure> ParahSailin: totes. 14:27 <@kanzure> ParahSailin: you have to keep it real 14:28 <@kanzure> ParahSailin: i'm really bad at culture 14:29 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:30 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:31 < nmz787> ParahSailin: is your real name viacheslav? 14:31 <@kanzure> no 14:34 < ParahSailin> nah, that's my supervisor 14:37 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 14:41 -!- underscor [~quassel@199.96.82.64] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:50 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:51 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:56 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:56 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:18 <@kanzure> well, hopefully this will fix ipython's terrible ctrl-c handling: 15:18 <@kanzure> https://github.com/ipython/ipython/pull/2895 15:18 < chris_99> i've just been playing about with lua, tis a pretty cool little language 15:31 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33 -!- HARMANZ [~quassel@199.48.197.18] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:36 -!- Hu_Meanan [~quassel@unaffiliated/humean] has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:37 -!- HARMANZ [~quassel@199.48.197.18] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41 < streety> kanzure: for ipython notebooks do you know of any way to upload files from the web interface? 15:41 <@kanzure> what web interface 15:44 < streety> the web interface when you use a ipython notebook 15:44 <@kanzure> didn't know that's a thing 15:44 <@kanzure> i just use ipython 15:47 < streety> fair enough, it's touted as a way to save your 'experiment', it's worth giving a try 15:48 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:48 < streety> I think the expectation is you have shell access as well so can just move files in that way. I'm considering using it as a teaching aid (spin up an EC2 instance for each student and point them at the web interface) but being unable to move files in easily may kill the idea 15:49 <@kanzure> experiments? 15:53 < streety> experiments/prototypes/learning-new-commands anything you might want to go back to and understand exactly what you did 15:53 < streety> you can save a session - perhaps key point I don't think I mentioned 15:54 <@kanzure> ipython in the shell can also save sessions with %save 15:55 < nmz787> kanzure: a few weeks ago i asked you about the online notebook feature too 15:56 < nmz787> kanzure: the web interface looks like a wiki, but can run python code that you type in 15:56 < streety> I had not realised that 15:56 < nmz787> kanzure: i bet there are major security issues :P 15:56 < nmz787> seems like there would be anyway 15:57 < streety> you essentially have shell access so security issues are certainly not far away 15:57 < streety> that's why I was considering ec2 instances rather than my personal server - I can burn them to the ground after the tutorial 16:06 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:06 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:08 < juri_> if you have a virtualization capable server, this sounds like good KVM teritory. 16:09 < juri_> I've written something that, while difficult to set up, allows me to install a VM with a single command, start it with a different command, and destroy it with a third command. if you're doing that a lot, it might be worth the time investment. 16:10 < juri_> 16:16 < nmz787> kanzure: i'm not sure what this site is, but i can see the dir listings, and this is some kind of title page that lists the pdfs in that dir http://144.206.159.178/ft/885/92512/1608523.pdf 16:17 < nmz787> kanzure: seems like each dir doesn't include that index page 16:17 <@kanzure> nmz787: it's Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy 16:18 < nmz787> kanzure: Subject Index of Volume 38 http://144.206.159.178/ft/885/52362/919164.pdf 16:19 < nmz787> kanzure: there's tons of stuff http://144.206.159.178/ft/ 16:21 < streety> juri_: my personal server is already a VM. VMs inside VMs isn't a direction I want to go in. sounds interesting though (I was actually planning to take a look at vagrant this weekend) 16:21 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:22 < juri_> streety: my software is https://gitorious.org/createvm . If you have a thing for autoinstalls, shell scripting (its almost entirely shell scripts, and uses a shell script based autoinstaller), and debian, you'll wonder why you did without it. 16:22 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@pool-96-231-37-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:22 < nmz787> kanzure: the search even works 16:24 < streety> juri_: thanks, I'll have a play with it this weekend 16:26 <@kanzure> nmz787: no, that error message is not helpful because the details are disabled in their configuration file 16:33 <@kanzure> http://www.securityartwork.es/2013/02/07/the-result-of-pinging-all-the-internet-ip-addresses/?lang=en 16:33 < nmz787> kanzure: seems you can't use the search on the pdf filename, I was hoping it would allow easy metadata retrieval since their search gives that 16:38 <@kanzure> do any of you windows users feel like trying my ipython fix? 16:38 <@kanzure> https://github.com/ipython/ipython/pull/2895 16:45 -!- smeaaagle_ 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by the round shape. compressive force, instead of explosive force. 21:19 < ThomasEgi> usualy it's just the other way round 21:19 < yashgaroth> kanzure I didn't name the lab, btw uploading pictures of it now 21:19 < ThomasEgi> as metal is very good with tension forces 21:19 < ThomasEgi> but doesn't do much good if you add pressure. 21:20 < ThomasEgi> so even if a container can easily withstand 10bar inside pressure. it still could implode with just half a bar pressure from outside 21:20 < juri_> I've seen people using the little ones for pulling the air out of modeling mixtures. 21:20 < ThomasEgi> i just wanted to raise that concern. 21:20 < juri_> noted. 21:20 < juri_> and thanks. 21:20 < ThomasEgi> the bigger the container. the more risky to use in low pressure 21:20 < juri_> yea, i know. i'll start small. 21:21 < ThomasEgi> i highly recommend some dry runs. maybe even by sinking that pot into a lake. and see how deep it goes befor imploding 21:21 < ThomasEgi> so you know the safety factor at least. 21:22 < juri_> just in case. i'll be doing all of this in a old rack. 21:22 < juri_> so that shrapnel has a lower chance of hiting anyone. 21:22 < ThomasEgi> good good. 21:22 < ThomasEgi> well an imploding metal container isnt really prone to shrapnelling 21:22 < juri_> good to know. 21:23 < ThomasEgi> reminds be of that video of a liquid-container train-trailer thingy 21:23 < ThomasEgi> which they removed air from. and let the crowd guess at what pressure itd implode 21:24 < ThomasEgi> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz95_VvTxZM 21:24 < juri_> oyea. seen it. ;) 21:24 < ThomasEgi> they are usualy made for 10bar inner pressure 21:24 < yashgaroth> ok my terrible photos are up http://imgur.com/a/zGWGR 21:24 < ThomasEgi> and at bout 0.7 it went fupp 21:25 < ThomasEgi> pingpongtable.. nice. 21:25 < yashgaroth> *free* pingpong table 21:25 < ThomasEgi> you should get a stable stand for your camera tho 21:25 < yashgaroth> yeah I was a little drunk 21:26 < yashgaroth> the other photos gave me motion sickness so I didn't upload them, but we had about 40 people there 21:27 < yashgaroth> some guy brought 2 repraps, a pcr machine, a microarray reader, a real-time pcr machine, and a bunch of other electronic crap that I don't even know what it's for 21:28 < yashgaroth> they were chilling beer in a centrifuge for some reason 21:28 < juri_> fun. 21:28 < yashgaroth> anyway it's much larger than those photos, but again, motion blur sickness 21:31 < kanzure> i don't see any free weights 21:32 < yashgaroth> jojack is saving those for himself 21:32 < kanzure> i hope that's tile and not carpeting 21:32 < yashgaroth> sweet absorbent mold-harboring carpet, yeah 21:32 < kanzure> wonderful 21:32 < yashgaroth> that's priority one, covering or replacing it 21:35 < yashgaroth> oh and http://biotechnbeyond.com/ is the website since I may as well plug that 21:36 < cpopell> yash. 21:36 < cpopell> are we going drinking thursday 21:36 < cpopell> before we drive up friday 21:36 < kanzure> the n is weird 21:36 < yashgaroth> where at, vista? if I can stay up there for the night then sure 21:36 < kanzure> would you guys prefer to use blackhatbio.com? i still have it. 21:36 < yashgaroth> yeah it's kinda dumb, like biotech 'n' beyond, darn tootin' 21:36 < kanzure> pfft jojack in a lab coat. 21:37 < yashgaroth> with a tube of green 21:37 < kanzure> who... who made this site. 21:37 < kanzure> :( 21:37 < kanzure> "designed by Richard Sportsman" 21:37 < kanzure> never hire this man for web design 21:37 < yashgaroth> yeah ,him 21:38 < kanzure> and it's wordpress?? hah. 21:38 < yashgaroth> his family does wine testing, I don't know where he got his web dev skills 21:38 < yashgaroth> but he was the free-est option 21:38 < kanzure> you guys could've asked me.. 21:38 < yashgaroth> luckily chido's logo is there making it look good 21:38 < yashgaroth> I'll pitch you to jojack 21:39 < cpopell> yashgaroth: yeah, might be best. my dad's a curmudgeonly old fuck though 21:39 < 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