--- Log opened Wed Feb 20 00:00:06 2013
00:05 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap
00:07 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
00:30 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
00:33 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:33 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
00:37 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
00:45 < bkero> Mmm, 1080p headset came today
00:45 < bkero> Have FXI Cotton Candy and USB Battery too.
00:46 -!- mutagen [~safitan@75-105-12-23.cust.wildblue.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:46 < jrayhawk> Wait, 1080p? who makes that?
00:48 < bkero> Silicon Microdisplay ST1080
00:52 < bkero> Typing to you from it now. :)
00:52 < jrayhawk> hot damn, that's 1080 per eye
00:53 < bkero> Yessir
00:54 < bkero> It's pretty slick shit
00:55 < jrayhawk> 80fps per color, staggered by channel
00:56 < jrayhawk> Huh, that's bound to get annoying, but I guess we'd have to wait another few years for microwire processes to get down to appropriate size for that.
00:57 < jrayhawk> Does it have integration with any major 3D engines yet?
00:58 < bkero> Supports 3 different 3d standards, don't know if it needs more support inside engines than that.
00:58 < ThomasEgi> for 3d rendering. all you usualy need is a driver that supports it.
01:02 < jrayhawk> Orientation tracking is the concern, not rendering.
01:10 < archels> bkero: didn't want to wait for the Oculus Rift eh?
01:16 -!- ArmilusDajjal [~safitan@75-105-12-23.cust.wildblue.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:26 < bkero> archels: have one of those preordered as well, but nowhere near the resolution.
01:38 < archels> ah really, that's disappointing. I was looking forward to the idea of having an almost limitless virtual display, thanks to its low-latency head orientation tracking.
01:39 < archels> ResolutionDeveloper kit: 1280×800 (640×800 per eye),[4] Consumer version: >=1920x1080
01:39 < archels> ">=" seems to indicate a promise rather than hard fact :)
01:44 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:44 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:47 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
01:48 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
01:51 < ThomasEgi> doesnt the st1080 come without tracking?
02:03 -!- Charlie [~quassel@64.31.59.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
02:04 -!- Charlie [~quassel@64.31.59.70] has joined ##hplusroadmap
02:10 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
02:20 -!- Urchin[Emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap
03:05 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@103-9-42-1.flip.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
04:11 -!- qu-bit [~shroedngr@gateway/tor-sasl/barriers] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
04:11 -!- qu-bit_ [~shroedngr@gateway/tor-sasl/barriers] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:19 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:25 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:30 -!- qu-bit_ [~shroedngr@gateway/tor-sasl/barriers] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:46 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:53 -!- superkuh_ [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:56 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
04:56 -!- superkuh_ is now known as superkuh
05:23 -!- u-metacognition [~metacogni@99-7-58-96.lightspeed.davlca.sbcglobal.net] has quit []
06:41 -!- ArmilusDajjal is now known as mutagen
06:52 < ParahSail1n> paperbot: http://doi.apa.org/index.cfm?doi=10.1037/0735-7044.120.2.353
06:53 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a556846176f5ce3c2a07bb72805ee252.txt
07:00 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap
07:02 -!- strages_home [~strages@adsl-98-67-97-41.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
07:03 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
07:12 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
07:13 -!- upgrayeddd [uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-phdticjehxkmduvh] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
07:19 -!- Shehrazad [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap
08:37 < nmz787> paperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja990592p
08:37 < paperbot> error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Kinetics%20of%20RNA%20Degradation%20by%20Specific%20Base%20Catalysis%20of%20Transesterification%20Involving%20the%202-Hydroxyl%20Group.pdf
08:38 < nmz787> error 500 indeed!
08:38 < nmz787> cheers to error 500!
08:52 -!- upgrayeddd [uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yidxedhsevvurozl] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:52 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@64.13.13.62] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:53 < delinquentme> purchasing microplates ...  I need a 96 well V-bottom microplate with very minimal "structure" at the bottom  I'm using it to stick into a heating block and so I need the smallest air-gap that I can get ... anyone know what these are called?
09:58 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:18 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@64.13.13.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
10:32 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap
10:37 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
10:54 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@76-14-130-152.rk.wavecable.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
10:55 -!- Thorbinator [~Thorbinat@76-14-130-152.rk.wavecable.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
11:09 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.241.200.238] has joined ##hplusroadmap
11:20 -!- lichen_ [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
11:23 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
11:24 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.241.200.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
11:25 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
11:34 -!- lichen_ is now known as lichen
11:37 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@64-13-13-62.eug.clearwire-dns.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
11:38 -!- barriers [~barriers@unaffiliated/barriers] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
11:45 < superkuh> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=1127598
11:45 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/88410233f8614b91408740954a4cf9fc.pdf
11:51 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@103-9-42-1.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap
12:07 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:07 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap
12:07 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
12:16 < chris_99> does anyone know of anything about when the Nanopore sequencer will be out
12:16 < chris_99> or anything similar
12:45 < ParahSailin> oxford nanopore?
12:45 < ParahSailin> paperbot: http://bioinformatics.oxfordjournals.org/content/21/10/2375.full.pdf+html
12:46 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/A%20fractional%20programming%20approach%20to%20efficient%20DNA%20melting%20temperature%20calculation.pdf
12:48 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@103-9-42-1.flip.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
12:49 < klafka> http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4009202/facebook-apple-google-moguls-award-research-extending-life
12:59 -!- sylph_mako [~mako@103-9-42-1.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap
13:14 < ParahSailin> we should get some seeds from bowman (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/business/justices-signal-a-monsanto-edge-in-patent-case.html?_r=0)
13:14 < ParahSailin> pirate the shit out of them
13:15 < chris_99> yeah oxford nanonpore ParahSail1n
13:16 < chris_99> *nano
13:22 < ParahSailin> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1521-0391.2013.00309.x/pdf
13:23 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d2582afa8af58f5393d36be2fd52a896.txt
13:23 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vnfv/ncurrent/full/nature11028.html
13:23 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Optogenetic%20stimulation%20of%20a%20hippocampal%20engram%20activates%20fear%20memory%20recall.pdf
13:25 < ParahSailin> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1111/j.1521-0391.2013.00309.x/asset/ajad309.pdf?v=1&amp;t=hdeznozo&amp;s=50a50aecd85fb140943fd1d8267f8e87c76e91db
13:25 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d93585683a455c8ea6a6b92f8b3e40c6.pdf
13:45 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:45 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap
13:50 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
13:50 -!- augur_ [~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap
13:57 -!- augur_ [~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:58 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap
14:00 -!- cryptic [~cryptic@pool-71-125-31-38.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
14:02 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
14:05 < kanzure> http://google.com/glass just marketing stuff, but whatever. looks like the betas they shipped might be real.
14:08 < klafka> yeah
14:09 < kanzure> welp, time to start on a facial recognition project.
14:09 < kanzure> i think a 10 second lag would be acceptable, if it had to upload a picture to a remote server to get details back.
14:11 < klafka> what about just to your phone
14:11 < klafka> by the time glass is commercially available i bet phones can handle facial recognition
14:12 < kanzure> your phone still can't have terabytes of data for storing facial recognition data sets
14:12 < kanzure> i mean, i can't imagine a scenario in the next few years where your phone can accurately recognize every one of the 7 billion people
14:12 < klafka> oh good point
14:13 < klafka> umm i figured you'd do facial recognition from your friends
14:13 < klafka> rather you'd grow the set youreslf
14:13 < kanzure> those are the people you know
14:13 < kanzure> i want it when i need it most
14:13 < klafka> got it
14:13 < klafka> mmm
14:30 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap
14:32 < strangewarp> Sent Google a throwaway application for their Glass promotion thingy. Maybe I'll luck out and get a pair, then figure out how to write a bridge between Pd on a laptop and a HUD client on Glass.
14:33 < strangewarp> My extreme-DIY music setup currently has an annoying bottleneck where I have to steal glances at a laptop screen while singing, and that is pretty annoying.
14:39 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:08 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:09 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap
15:14 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
15:18 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@64-13-13-62.eug.clearwire-dns.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:22 -!- sivoais is now known as JonesTheDolphin
15:22 -!- JonesTheDolphin is now known as sivoais
15:25 -!- etheros [~etheros@2601:0:8980:7d:92e6:baff:fe83:8bff] has joined ##hplusroadmap
15:39 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -]
15:59 -!- Sanky [~SankyZNC@unaffiliated/sanky] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
16:11 -!- augur [~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:14 -!- Sanky [~SankyZNC@unaffiliated/sanky] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:20 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:21 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:22 -!- joshcryer [~g@c-76-25-9-95.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:23 -!- joshcryer [~g@c-76-25-9-95.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host]
16:23 -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:25 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
16:42 -!- augur [~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:43 -!- augur [~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:47 -!- augur [~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
16:49 < strangewarp> http://robrhinehart.com/?p=298 - Anyone have any opinions on this? I found the link while Poetry Twitter People were ripping the guy apart for being so obviously lonely and disgusting and unfeeling that he wanted to remove the warmth of food from his life.
16:49 -!- augur [~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:50 < strangewarp> But it's fascinating.
16:50 < strangewarp> He claims to have created a total food-replacement substance, covering all nutritional needs, and sating all cravings, for $50/month. And that's without any economies-of-scale involved.
16:51 < ParahSail1n> creepy
16:51 < strangewarp> He calls it Soylent, because.. of course he would.
16:52 < Thorbinator> if you can give it variable texture and flavor packets
16:52 < Thorbinator> I'd use it
16:52 < strangewarp> It's an oily frothy drink, it seems.
16:53 < strangewarp> Apparently it is delicious, but he wasn't expecting it to be.
16:53 < Thorbinator> the biggest problem with human chow is how monotonous it is compared to our actual diet
16:53 < ParahSail1n> it doesnt list the formula
16:53 < jrayhawk> http://robrhinehart.com/?p=424
16:53 < jrayhawk> is the formula
16:53 < strangewarp> Follow-up post with recipe: http://robrhinehart.com/?p=424
16:53 < strangewarp> ah, beaten
16:53 < jrayhawk> It's one hell of a lot better than the crap people normally eat.
16:54 -!- augur [~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:54 < jrayhawk> The overabsorbability is going to screw his intestinal flora up pretty bad, though, and I'm not convinced he's being adequately careful about the nutrient forms and resulting bioavailability.
16:54 < ParahSail1n> dubious premise
16:54 -!- augur [~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:54 < strangewarp> hmm
16:56 < ParahSail1n> but i guess these sorts of experiments are how scientists originally learned of the vitamins and micronutrients we've discovered so far
16:57 < jrayhawk> Like, is that ω3 short chain or long chain? Is that folate folic acid or an actual tetrahydrofolate? Is that iron iron oxide or heme? Is that b12 cyanocobalamin?
16:58 < jrayhawk> These things matter a lot and he doesn't seem to care.
16:58 < ParahSail1n> all kinds of red flags
16:59 < jrayhawk> Eh, he's still way better off than normal folks.
16:59 -!- augur [~augur@c-98-218-127-183.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
17:00 < strangewarp> Yeah, that's about what I figured, but it's good to get confirmation from actual science people.
17:00 < strangewarp> I'm tempted to try it, since I'm currently on an ultra-low food budget..
17:01 < jrayhawk> Doing it with proper forms will be prohibitively expensive.
17:02 < ParahSail1n> im pretty sure chemical isolates are more expensive than actual unrefined foods
17:03 < ParahSail1n> get more money so that you can afford to eat
17:03 < strangewarp> working on it :s
17:04 < strangewarp> I like that diet for its unabashed modernism most of all, really
17:04 < jrayhawk> isolates are probably the cheapest approach until you start factoring in the externalities of agricultural subsidies
17:06 < ParahSail1n> hm, you can get a metric ton of maltodextrin for $500
17:06 < jrayhawk> Like, wheat is nutritionally near-worthless and immunologically disastrous, but deriving dextrose from that wheat is not a lot of extra cost.
17:13 < ParahSail1n> are the chemical isolates of all the vitamins that cheap too?
17:13 < jrayhawk> So long as you don't care about bioavailability.
17:17 < ParahSail1n> doubt its cheaper than beef liver puree
17:17  * strangewarp reads up on bioavailability wrt vitamins...
17:18 < jrayhawk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwbY12qZcF4 is kinda interesting to watch
17:19 < jrayhawk> It's about density rather than bioavailability, but the liver thing reminded me of it.
17:19 < ParahSail1n> whats he say in video
17:20 < ParahSail1n> its very hard to scroll and skim a video to find the new information
17:21 < jrayhawk> There are a few surprises; the biggest one being that animal fats are crap for nutrients.
17:21 < jrayhawk> Liver and shellfish still come out on top, though.
17:21 < jrayhawk> (no surprise)
17:24 < ParahSail1n> crap for nutrients except for vitamin a, k, cholesterol, omegles?
17:24 -!- panax [~panax@131.247.116.156] has joined ##hplusroadmap
17:24 < jrayhawk> Cholesterol is not an essential nutrient and endogenous production outstrips dietary sources by at worst a factor of ten.
17:25 < jrayhawk> But even the fat soluable vitamins are pretty low in most cases.
17:25 < ParahSail1n> factor of ten? citation?
17:26 -!- aristarchus [~aristarch@unaffiliated/aristarchus] has joined ##hplusroadmap
17:27 < panax> should i go for low cholesterol or high
17:28 < kanzure> http://hackteria.org/wiki/index.php/HackteriaLab_2013_Commons
17:28 < jrayhawk> panax: Doesn't matter much.
17:30 < ParahSail1n> animal fats are mostly good as macronutrient
17:31 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
17:31 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
17:32 -!- panax [~panax@131.247.116.156] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
17:32 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:32 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
17:33 < sseehh_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redox_signaling
17:39 < jrayhawk> Oh, folks with hypercholesterolemia are apparently a much worse case.
17:40 < jrayhawk> or, in some cases, rather
17:40 < jrayhawk> That's more variable than I thought it was.
17:40 < jrayhawk> What I get for believing Ancel Keys about anything.
17:42 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-66-27-118-94.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
17:46 < jrayhawk> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16340654
17:46 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/12ebace9a225e88bc802c763eecde267.txt
17:51 < jrayhawk> paperbot: http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/pdf/10.1146/annurev.nu.12.070192.001503
17:51 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Dietary%20Impact%20on%20Biliary%20Lipids%20and%20Gallstones.pdf
17:56 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:58 -!- panax [~panax@131.247.116.156] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:13 < jrayhawk> so apparently the modern numbers for typical responders are, like, 25 percent exogenous but there's some shutoff mechanism for the receptor
18:15 < jrayhawk> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20683785
18:15 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e1562540b2561c03ad6ecce85535e92.txt
18:15 < jrayhawk> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11883-010-0130-7
18:15 < paperbot> error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/14202c1cfed49bfcbe1aab9f20b35d14.txt
18:16 < jrayhawk> paperbot: http://journals.ohiolink.edu/ejc/article.cgi?issn=15233804&issue=v12i0006&article=377_rdcrdtesalo3
18:17 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f1f6e913fe7608fb49f1e124084ea348.txt
18:17 -!- aristarchus [~aristarch@unaffiliated/aristarchus] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:17 < jrayhawk> beeeeh
18:17 < jrayhawk> science is hard
18:20 -!- mutagen [~safitan@75-105-12-23.cust.wildblue.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:21 -!- mutagen [~safitan@75-105-12-23.cust.wildblue.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:21 < panax> i need to get my HDL up
18:22 < panax> don't want niacin though
18:22 < ParahSail1n> eat animal fat
18:23 < panax> the literature seems to indicate i really need to minimize cholesterol
18:24 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:25 < ParahSail1n> you mean you want to minimize the vldl thats going to the wrong places?
18:26 < panax> thoughts on cholesterol vs alzheimer's
18:26 < panax> ?
18:28 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:31 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:44 < JayDugger> Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons: Military effectiveness and collateral effects (http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0510071)
18:49 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@pool-71-255-241-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:50 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:55 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:55 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:56 < ParahSail1n> alzheimers seems to be cholesterol deficiency
19:19 -!- Bbfwooxy [~anonymous@cpe-24-25-218-169.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
19:19 -!- Bbfwooxy [~anonymous@cpe-24-25-218-169.san.res.rr.com] has left ##hplusroadmap []
19:29 < kanzure> where did eleitl go?
19:31 < kanzure> 4 TB hdd going for $180 http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Backup-Desktop-External-STCA4000100/dp/B00829THLE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1361379018&sr=8-2&keywords=4tb+drive
19:32 < kanzure> and $180 (with $20 discount) on costco http://www.costco.com/.product.695080.html4
19:32 < kanzure> oops i mean http://www.costco.com/.product.695080.html
19:39 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
19:44 < sylph_mako> ParahSail1n, I was going to message the mods of /r/objectivism to say that the faq it links to is disabled or inaccessible. Then I realized the mods are you. So that.
19:44 < ParahSail1n> oh, oops
19:45 < ParahSail1n> ok fixed
19:45 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer]
19:46 < ParahSail1n> did i link r/Objectivism here, or wild coincidence?
19:47 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap
19:50 < sylph_mako> Coincidence. Insofar as a transhumanist arriving at Objectivism is coincidental, but I feel that it is not.
19:53 < cpopell> Hrm.
19:53 < cpopell> Do I go for the 4tb drive or not.
19:54 < ParahSail1n> too many ip monopolists on r/O
19:54 < ParahSail1n> i guess thats also to be expected given that AR shilled for ip too
19:55 < cpopell> believed in =/= shilled for
19:55 < sylph_mako> Intellectual Property?
19:58 < ParahSail1n> i say shilled for because it is motivated cognition for an author living off of ip monopoly to need to rationalize it
20:17 -!- panax [~panax@131.247.116.156] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
20:17 -!- Cat4D [433456da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.52.86.218] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:18 < Cat4D> is there any JS ontology construction or visualization tool?
20:21 < kanzure> ParahSail1n: you linked to it once.
20:23 < kanzure> "My name is Sergio Longoria and I am a Talent Acquisition Sourcing Specialist with Thomson Reuters.  I came across your information online ..."
20:23 < kanzure> ha ha ha :shark:
20:24 < kanzure> to be fair, he probably just mass emailed that
20:25 < kanzure> "of *course* web of knowledge is safe with me on the job, sure.."
20:25 < kanzure> .. or endnote.
20:28 -!- phryk [~phryk@static.39.216.9.176.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
20:29 < sylph_mako> Hang on. ParahSail1n, you link to the TVTropes article on Objectivism. I was once struck with a vision of a curated compendium of all conceived concepts, and it looked kinda like TVTropes, without the emphasis on fiction.
20:30 < sylph_mako> But, the fact that there's an extensive article here on Objectivism suggests that the place is open to all kinds of concepts?
20:30 < ParahSail1n> u/studiodekadent wrote most of that tvtropes page
20:31 < ParahSail1n> and yeah, i guess tvtropes allows all kinds of content
20:31 < klafka> so much reddit going on in here
20:32 -!- phryk [~phryk@static.39.216.9.176.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:43 < kanzure> here's the fbi's response they mailed me: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/fbi/foipa/response.html
20:45 -!- abetusk [~abetusk@cpe-24-58-232-122.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20:45 < ParahSail1n> what were you trying to foia
20:45 < kanzure> my own records
20:45 < kanzure> the fbi mailed me this letter a few days ago saying 404 file not found
20:46 < ParahSail1n> cool
20:46 < kanzure> but jrayhawk is saying that they are lying, because others receive results (like previous requests that were made) while i have not received anything at all.
20:47 < ParahSail1n> i guess the only way to be sure is to fake your death
20:47 < kanzure> agreed
20:47 < ParahSail1n> homeless person, corrupt dentist, money
20:50 < mutagen> hey
20:50 < mutagen> dont talk shit bout homeless
20:50 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o kanzure] by ChanServ
20:50 < mutagen> most of them are vets
20:50 <@kanzure> mutagen: go away
20:50 < mutagen> kanzure,
20:50 < mutagen> what
20:54 < mutagen> i promis if i ever get the chance to beat you to death with a baseball bat i will, but this is irc
20:54 < mutagen> and nothing matters
20:56 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+q mutagen!*@*] by kanzure
20:56 <@kanzure> that's not okay with me.
20:59 -!- Guest94337 [~archie@ip24-255-8-249.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
21:01 <@kanzure> this particular exemption is rather broad:
21:01 <@kanzure> "(k)(2) investigatory material compiled for law enforcement purposes, other than criminal, which did not result in loss of a right, benefit or privilege under Federal programs, or which would identify a source"
21:04 -!- Guest94337 is now known as archbox_
21:04 -!- archbox_ [~archie@ip24-255-8-249.tc.ph.cox.net] has quit [Changing host]
21:04 -!- archbox_ [~archie@unaffiliated/archbox] has joined ##hplusroadmap
21:07 < ParahSail1n> welcome to the american regime where everything is made up and the points dont matter?
21:20 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
21:21 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
21:39 -!- etheros [~etheros@2601:0:8980:7d:92e6:baff:fe83:8bff] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
21:54 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@pool-71-255-241-96.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
22:07 -!- Cat4D [433456da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.52.86.218] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
22:20 -!- Urchin[Emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
22:41 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-66-27-118-94.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
23:15 -!- abetusk [~abetusk@cpe-24-58-232-122.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
23:22 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
23:33 <@kanzure> hahaha yes teamfourstar irc.
23:49 -!- ielo [~ielo@cpc9-addl4-2-0-cust229.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
23:51 < strangewarp> wow. that is an unusually foreboding FOIA Request response
23:53 <@kanzure> huh? is it different from their standard response?
--- Log closed Thu Feb 21 00:00:06 2013