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00:02 < strangewarp> Oh wait, that /is/ their standard response? Hmm. Foreboding downgraded to wack.
00:03 <@kanzure> i don't know if it's their standard or not
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00:48 <@kanzure> darkwinter: hello
00:49 < darkwinter> Hello!
00:49 <@kanzure> what brings you here?
00:50 < darkwinter> A friend that I was talking to earlyer about cyberpunk culture
00:50 < darkwinter> and he suggested I come here!
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00:57 <@kanzure> JayDugger: you could use emokit with your new toy.
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03:14 < superkuh> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel5/9541/30232/01389115.pdf?arnumber=1389115
03:14 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b2b845ef432ceccbb177eaeddd6cfbd4.pdf
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07:10 < superkuh> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=5165869
07:12 < superkuh> paperbo... oh.
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08:15 <@kanzure> superkuh: sorry about that
08:17 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=5165869
08:17 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a03a62027ef4dda448b459a96669cd36.pdf
08:25 < superkuh> I managed to find related copy, but this one does have better detail on the output connector construction. >10 Ghz equal power splitters for low wattages are fantastically more expensive than they should be. They're just PCB with connectors but sell for hundreds of dollars.
08:45 < ThomasEgi> 10ghz pcb? in that case you need special pcb substrates (keramics). and you need stuff like well defined trace profiles. so in some cases you need to actually mill the edges.
08:45 < ThomasEgi> HF stuff is more tricky than it looks. also count in the development costs
09:07 < superkuh> I didn't know about the trace profiles. For a 3 cm wave the traces edge roughness will matter?
09:10 < superkuh> Oh. It is just a microstrip thing. If the width varies the impedance does. Not relating to wavelength of the signal.
09:10 < superkuh> I have a lot to learn still.
09:11 < ThomasEgi> yeah. HF tech is pretty crazy. it's not like the regular wires you are used to.
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10:35 <@kanzure> anyone use bookfi?
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10:58 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.pnas.org/content/108/suppl.3/15565.short
10:58 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Searching%20for%20simplicity%20in%20the%20analysis%20of%20neurons%20and%20behavior.pdf
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12:39 < nmz787> http://defcad.org/
12:39 < nmz787> "Welcome to DEFCAD, operated by Defense Distributed. This site is a makeshift response to Makerbot Industries' decision to censor files uploaded in good faith at Thingiverse, specifically firearms-related files. We are hosting as many of the pulled files as we can find."
12:39 < eudoxia> posting that link makes you an Associated Force under Section 3.b.1 of the PATRIOT Act
12:40 < eudoxia> please stand upright and advise people around you to run to a safe distance while we dispatch a drone to your location
12:41 < nmz787> eudoxia: is that true?
12:41 < eudoxia> I don't think so
12:41 < nmz787> whew
12:41 < eudoxia> I'm going to gitmo for making that joke anyways
12:41 < nmz787> i'm not sure how much/little free speech we have left
12:42 < eudoxia> i wonder what will happen when someone leaks the blueprints for heavy artillery to DEFCAD
12:43 < nmz787> oOOO
12:43 < eudoxia> then somebody turns them into an skdb package, hahahaah
12:44 < nmz787> "Print time is wholly dependent of the printer, software, layer height, infill, etc.  Mine took 32 hours with full infill at 0.010" layers.  Price-wise, if you use Makerbot filament, you're looking at around $7-$8 for a printed lower (and perhaps half that if you use bargain basement filament)."
12:44 < sseehh_> http://americannationalmilitia.com/texas-senator-on-our-side/
12:47 < nmz787> So what happens if you drive to a city with a gun ban?
12:47 < nmz787> is there a city gun check?
12:47 < nmz787> like in the old western days
12:47 < eudoxia> ignore of the law et cetera
12:47 < nmz787> like a coat room
12:48 < nmz787> why can't i find this info?
12:53 < nmz787> just talked to the chicago police, they don't have border gun deposits/check-ins
12:53 < nmz787> lame
12:57 < klafka> kanzure: or anyone would you say that breaks are in general bad to use in python?
12:58 < ParahSailin> python is for rapid prototyping, so no
13:01 < klafka> the general case against breaks is that something in a break should probably be handled in an exception right?
13:02 <@kanzure> i tend to use breaks in python when i'm writing parsers
13:03 <@kanzure> the real way to write parsers is with something other than a for loop, like with a grammar.
13:03 < klafka> yeah this is a parser
13:03 <@kanzure> well, see if you want to use pyparsing.
13:03 < klafka> and basically i want to break and exclude a line if it has a field that has an empty string in it
13:04 < nmz787> kanzure: what is dreamweaver?
13:04 <@kanzure> pure evil
13:04 < klafka> hahahah
13:04 < nmz787> kanzure: could a user easily add a script to it?
13:04 < klafka> yes
13:04 <@kanzure> it's a wysiwyg web editor
13:04 < nmz787> like a js
13:04 <@kanzure> probably.. but why wouldn't you just write javascript yourself?
13:04  * eudoxia still kind of likes Seamonkey's composer
13:04 < nmz787> hmm, does it tell you what div id you
13:04 < nmz787> 're in
13:04 < nmz787> or does it allow adding ids?
13:04 <@kanzure> i haven't used dreamweaver since 2001
13:05 < nmz787> yeah i think that's when i first and last heard about it
13:05 <@kanzure> i really don't think you should use it. it's like a supped up version of frontpage.
13:05 < nmz787> i'm not
13:05 <@kanzure> why not just edit the html yourself and find the div you want?
13:05 < nmz787> just saw a friend using it, she's not a computer literate person
13:05 < klafka> yeah it's WYSIWIG
13:05 < klafka> yeah it's WYSIWYG
13:05 < klafka> rather
13:06 < klafka> but what you don't see is terrible
13:06 < nmz787> she posted something on facebook like 'how can i copy this page's effect on my site, i use dreamweaver'
13:06 < nmz787> and someone responded about ajax, and she was like 'i'm in over my head'
13:06 <@kanzure> basic css transitions and other effects are probably tricky in dreamweaver
13:08 < ParahSailin> Parsec
13:10 <@kanzure> oh scipy 2013 is in austin. damn i guess i'll have to go.
13:14 < ParahSailin> shit i guess i should submit an abstract of some crap
13:14 <@kanzure> we could coauthor some bullshit if you want
13:14 <@kanzure> nanoengineer?
13:15 < ParahSailin> i was just grepping my scripts dir for some stuff that imports scipy, but nothing terribly useful
13:16 <@kanzure> i don't think you have to use scipy itself
13:18 < ParahSailin> does nanoengineer do much of use?
13:18 <@kanzure> uhhh
13:19 < eudoxia> well it's pretty unique
13:19 <@kanzure> well.
13:20 <@kanzure> there's supposed to be some molecular dynamics simulation support. but mostly it's useful for constructing pdb models and the nanostructure library it has.
13:20 <@kanzure> and the ui that sorta works. but most of it doesn't work. heh.
13:24 < ParahSailin> heh i dont have any worthwhile python stuff
13:26 < ParahSailin> just text munging input and output from compiled stuff
13:26 < klafka> kanzure: i'm going to pydata instead of scipy
13:26 < klafka> because it's in sf <_<
13:31 <@kanzure> what was the other one? pycon?
13:32 < klafka> yeah pydata is part of pycon
13:47 <@kanzure> madeon things http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTx3G6h2xyA
13:55 <@kanzure> hm maybe that's insufficiently over the top. needs more keys.
13:55 < klafka> umm that's just a novation launchpad
13:56 < klafka> that's not a lot of keys really
13:56 < klafka> i know people who will use that  + idk an apc40 or an ipad or an mpd24 etc..
13:56 <@kanzure> why do people use all this custom equipment? is an fpga not good enough for them?
13:57 < klafka> how does this relate to an fpga at all?
13:57 <@kanzure> dsps, i imagine
13:57 < klafka> also this is consumer equipment - that's like 150 or so
13:57 <@kanzure> or midi stuff
13:57 <@kanzure> i suppose you can do software-generated midi sampling libraries
13:57 < klafka> they are using DAW programs
13:57 < klafka> which are making use of DSP shit for sure
13:58 < klafka> people use them because they are often pretty good physical analogs of the major DAW interfaces so they make a natural extension to people to play live electronic music
14:00 <@kanzure> but it's because they don't know how to use fpgas? or what's going on here?
14:00 < klafka> i mean an fpga would more efficiently handle DSP but it's not an interface device
14:01 <@kanzure> interface?
14:01 < klafka> they are using that device to dynamically play samples and add effects on those samples
14:02 < klafka> like they have a bunch of wav fils that are being triggered to play by the buttons as well as potentially effects that affect one or more of those wav files
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14:17 < ParahSailin> how good is openCV these days
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14:29 <@kanzure> i think brownies or chris_99 have both used it within the past month
14:37 < ParahSailin> i'd like to have a machine train animals by watching them and controling remote shock collars
14:37 < NeuroWinter> thats very non vegan
14:38 < ParahSailin> inorite
14:38 < NeuroWinter> for the sake of science!
14:39 < ParahSailin> i'd probably be doing it with chickens, possibly a larger poultry
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14:39 < NeuroWinter> quales?
14:39 < ParahSailin> i dunno about that fancy
14:39 < sheena1> whats the goal?
14:40 < ParahSailin> probably ducks, geese, or turkeys would be the other likely options
14:40 < ParahSailin> train them aversion to feeding on certain plants but not others
14:42 < sheena1> interesting. food aversion is generally something animals have hardwired, shouldn't need an external aversive like shock if you can just make sure they associate the undesireable plant with getting sick afterwards
14:42 < ParahSailin> well i want them to be averse to eating certain foods so that they will eat weeds and not crops
14:45 < sheena1> i understand the goal
14:45 < sheena1> but animals already have a built in mechanism for food aversion
14:45 < sheena1> eat this thing, makes me sick, never eat it again
14:46 < sheena1> i dont know how many repetitions you'd need to make it a life long learning.. the reason we grow the crops we do is because they're more nutrient dense, so animals are going to tend to WANT to eat those more than weeds
14:46 < sheena1> you'd also want to make sure they're getting fed some sort of nutrionally complete feed so tehy don't all die of malnutrition fromeating weeds
14:47 < ParahSailin> i think the issue of the operant conditioning is probably pretty certain
14:47 < sheena1> hm?
14:48 < ParahSailin> electric shocks should condition animals food aversion
14:48 < sheena1> have you read the misbehaviour of organisms/
14:48 < sheena1> right. they should. i'm just saying you shouldn't need to do nearly that much work
14:50 < ParahSailin> how could you do it more easily?
14:50 < sheena1> by using the instincts that animals possess to not eat things that make them sick
14:50 < sheena1> just feed htem the food you want the aversion to and make them sick afterwards
14:51 < sheena1> i know this is extremely common with pet dogs and cats. I can't imagine birds are immune.
14:51 < ParahSailin> i imagine the edible crops taste better to chickens as well
14:53 < sheena1> http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4085934?uid=3737720&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101685105233
14:53 < ParahSailin> paperbot: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4085934?uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101685109853
14:53 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/876c34be905386d845d3b781e554a23b.txt
14:53 <@kanzure> paperbot i command you to work
14:53 < sheena1> https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdigitalcommons.unl.edu%2Fcgi%2Fviewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1010%26context%3Dnwrcrepellants&ei=-KQmUavaO-eWjAL7tYGQAg&usg=AFQjCNG03zUHa9rbsppKIxSfrCuYqb4kFg&sig2=n1pw3rzIit68l16280xDiA
14:54 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdfplus/4085934.pdf
14:54 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/624f5c93df2e88011aea8a6ee4ac992e.txt
14:54 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdfplus/4085934.pdf?acceptTC=true
14:54 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/bb81064ac338e9fc34f276d52b9a47a8.pdf
14:54 <@kanzure> there you go
14:54 <@kanzure> fucking jstor
14:55 < ParahSailin> watermarked
14:55 <@kanzure> wtf pdfparanoia is supposed to catch jstor watermarks
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14:56 < sheena2> sorry, my laptop died. did you get the second link?
14:56 <@kanzure> yes. the jstor link was downloaded to http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/bb81064ac338e9fc34f276d52b9a47a8.pdf
14:57 < sheena2> the second one is specific to wild birds, i think, but same idea
14:57 < ParahSailin> paperbot: http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1010&context=nwrcrepellants
14:57 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/6a52f7902bb94906f57738a8832f0466.pdf
14:59 < sheena2> happy to discuss further, ParahSailin if you like. im not in this room much, but you can contact me by email if you like (licketysit@gmail.com)
14:59 < ParahSailin> ok
15:00 < sheena2> I've spent most of my life working with behaviour modification of dogs and other animals, have worked some with chickens, though not on this topic. I sort of live and breathe learning theory ;)
15:00 < ParahSailin> ah i see
15:00 < sheena2> learned food aversion is VERY common in cats, and becomes a medical problem quite quickly
15:00 < klafka> really?
15:00 < klafka> what is learned food aversion exactly?
15:00 < sheena2> if a cat is sick, we often will recommend the cat eat somethign different than usual while sick so that they don't learn to avoid their regular food
15:00 < ParahSailin> do you think it would be hard to train chickens to avoid the good plants?
15:00 < klafka> aah I see
15:01 < sheena2> ever gone out for dinner someplace the night you got the stomach flu, and then never wanted to go back?
15:01 < sheena2> thats learned food aversion
15:01 < klafka> got it
15:01 < klafka> how trainable are cats like in the dog training sense
15:01 < sheena2> very much
15:01 < sheena2> i think it would be easy enough to traint he chickens, ParahSailin
15:01 < ParahSailin> i trained a cat to sit, jump, and stand on command
15:01 < klafka> like training them to not spray or perform certain behaviors
15:01 < klafka> ParahSailin: really?
15:01 < sheena2> my concern is that maintaining the bahaviour may be difficult
15:02 < klafka> how ParahSailin?
15:02 < ParahSailin> but only when i had food right then and the cat was ravenously hungry
15:02 < klafka> aah
15:02 < ParahSailin> it was a neighbor cat
15:02 < ParahSailin> the owner only fed her kibbles
15:02 < ParahSailin> i was the source for raw meat scraps and chicken bones
15:03 < ParahSailin> sheena2: is computer vision for automating training of a flock of chickens overkill, ie, would there be an easier way?
15:03 < klafka> aren't chicken bones really bad for pets?
15:03 < klafka> or any cooked bone for that matter
15:03 < sheena2> ParahSailin, you need to check out the stuff that Bob Bailey is doing
15:03 < sheena2> klafka: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5dIB2oF6sQ&playnext=1&list=PLxDsf3TdtMJGucTSUwA7kSx07Tii85-hU&feature=results_video
15:03 < sheena2> oh that was ugly. sorry
15:04 < ParahSailin> i wouldnt feed a cooked chicken bone to a dog
15:04 < sheena2> look up the IQ Zoo.. its tough to findn good info on. I have a documentary video that may be very interesting to you, I'd be willing to share via email or something.
15:04 < ParahSailin> but cats are very fastidious eaters
15:04 < sheena2> i wouldnt feed a cooked chicken bone to a cat, either, but chewing the meat and grissle off is fine.. and seems to be all most cats want to do
15:05 < ParahSailin> my goats eat chicken and duck bones sometimes
15:05 < klafka> aah cool
15:05 < klafka> yeah that'd be interesting
15:05 < ParahSailin> this cat crunched the ends of the bones to get some marrow out
15:06 < ParahSailin> i normally eat the bones when im eating chicken or duck because its annoying to spit them out
15:06 < klafka> wow isn't that also a choking hazard?
15:06 < ParahSailin> i chew
15:06 < klafka> ah
15:08 < ParahSailin> i imagine a lot of vets and doctors would not approve
15:08 < ParahSailin> of many things i do
15:09 < sheena2> goats are ruminants, can tolerate lots of things dogs or cats cant as easily. doesn't mean chewed up bones are a problem, just that they need to be chewed to be safe. and not all animals, but especially dogs, get that! :)
15:10 < sheena2> there are some good dog food recipes that involve cooking a whole chicken or turkey in some water until the bones are soft enough to mashwith a potato masher
15:10 < sheena2> mush it up and feed
15:10 < sheena2> on topic, often used for dogs who have learned food aversions to commercial foods!
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15:10 < ParahSailin> raw chicken is best for dogs
15:11 < sheena2> im off to try and convince 4 border collies, a bc mix, a westie and a maliinois that they're far better to sleep this afternoon than destroy the house. i'll pop back in tonight sometime if i remember. I'm the worst IRC user though. All the dogs listed above minus the westie are raw fed a diet that includes, among other things, raw chicken. the westie is allergic to a few proteins (and isn't my dog) so he eats some expensive kibble
15:12 < ParahSailin> ah, later
15:13 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=14bdf238 Bryan Bishop: jstor
15:13 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers
15:13 < paperbot> gnusha: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-02-21 23:13:38)
15:14 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4085934?uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101685109853
15:14 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/be66594e50123898daf0f5ccecea34e2.txt
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15:32 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=16c7f4d4 Bryan Bishop: fix jstor pdf urls
15:32 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=456b8ca7 Bryan Bishop: fix jstor title determination
15:32 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers
15:32 < paperbot> SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 225)
15:32 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=04644364 Bryan Bishop: fix jstor title determination
15:32 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers
15:32 < paperbot> IndentationError: unexpected unindent (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 225)
15:33 <@kanzure> jrayhawk: what happened? ikiwiki has put something with a merge state into /srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py
15:34 <@kanzure> jrayhawk: i am seeing things like "<<<<<<< HEAD"
15:34 <@kanzure> paperbot: reload papers
15:34 < paperbot> kanzure: <module 'papers' from '/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py'> (version: 2013-02-21 23:34:28)
15:34 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4085934?uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101685109853
15:34 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Observational%20Learning%20of%20Food%20Aversions%20in%20Red-Winged%20Blackbirds%20%28Agelaius%20phoeniceus%29.pdf
15:34 <@kanzure> hooray
15:34 < jrayhawk> Huh, I thought it was supposed to have a UI for that.
15:35 <@kanzure> what is?
15:35 < jrayhawk> Ikiwiki.
15:35 <@kanzure> maybe only through the web?
15:35 <@kanzure> anyway, that's what i get for trying to cover up my terrible mistakes with -f.
15:36 < jrayhawk> wait what
15:36 < jrayhawk> what were you doing with -f
15:37 <@kanzure> i ammended a commit and pushed because i wanted to cover up my syntax error and murder everyone who knew of it
15:37 < jrayhawk> oh, yeah, don't do that.
15:37 < jrayhawk> rebuildrepo paperbot will clean that up
15:38 <@kanzure> i manually fixed the merge state
15:38 <@kanzure> it would be nice if ikiwiki would complain maybe
15:38 < jrayhawk> I bet it did.
15:39 <@kanzure> remote: 'git merge origin/master' failed:  at /usr/share/perl5/IkiWiki/Plugin/git.pm line 207.
15:39 <@kanzure> alright then
15:40 <@kanzure> paperbot really really needs someone to clean it up
15:40 <@kanzure> and unit tests
15:41 < jrayhawk> jrayhawk@gnusha:/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot$ git show-ref
15:41 < jrayhawk> 456b8ca77ee214ae8bfb15fcc0c76a913366fac7 refs/heads/master
15:41 < jrayhawk> 04644364e2990f9b35140ea2f3f70b7bbdc720ea refs/remotes/origin/master
15:41 < jrayhawk> how exactly did you "manually fix" that
15:42 <@kanzure> git commit --amend ?
15:42 <@kanzure> oh sorry
15:42 <@kanzure> i mean, i edited the file. yeah okay that was a bad idea.
15:42 < jrayhawk> rebuildrepo exists to make this sort of thing easy
15:43 <@kanzure> i assumed i was pushing -f to both repos
15:43 <@kanzure> ok it's rebuilding.
15:43 < jrayhawk> You don't have permission to write to the ikiwiki repo specifically because you are a user and users are crazy and untrustworthy.
15:44 <@kanzure> i had a momentary lapse of judgement
15:45 <@kanzure> s/momentary/lifelong
15:45 < jrayhawk> haha
15:55 < nmz787> anyone heard of http://www.massivedynamicscorp.com/
15:55 < nmz787> ?
15:56 <@kanzure> pfft that name is way too good for a dongle manufacturer
15:57 < nmz787> i can't tell what it actually does
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15:57 < nmz787> why would i need to combine my phone and tablet
15:58 < nmz787> http://www.massivedynamicscorp.com/pdf/Telipad%20Sheet%20copy.pdf
15:58 < nmz787> oh, i guess it's in case you have multiple phones
15:59 < nmz787> "Telipad can hold 2 simm chips and
15:59 < nmz787> communicate via Bluetooth to any device!"
16:01 < nmz787> http://www.nsa.gov/ia/_files/factsheets/I732-016R-07.pdf
16:01 < nmz787> "Both users and Bluetooth application developers have responsibilities and opportunities to minimize the risk
16:01 < nmz787> of compromise via Bluetooth. Users should follow these best practice security guidelines:
16:01 < nmz787>   Never use standard commercial Bluetooth headsets."
16:01 < nmz787> so I guess the govt has their own wireless headsets
16:02 <@kanzure> taco delivery http://tacocopter.com/
16:02 < nmz787> what about bluetooth snooping?
16:03 < nmz787> could someone start listening in on the phone conversations, etc
16:04 <@kanzure> someone made a directional bluetooth snooper and hung out at some hollywood event once
16:06 < ArmilusDajjal> you can pick them up form some distance iirc with the righ tequipment
16:06 <@kanzure> they ended up getting funding and starting a company called lookout or appsomething
16:06 <@kanzure> appthority
16:08 <@kanzure> holy shit i hate this, google is highlighting terms from previous search results on my search result page
16:12 <@kanzure> http://heybryan.org/shots/2013-02-21-1808-google-search-highlighting.png
16:15 < nmz787> paperbot: http://webstore.ansi.org/RecordDetail.aspx?sku=ANSI%2FASME+B89.4.1-1997#.USa4lqVOSSo
16:15 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fe3aa24f8edff771949659ac903ac68c.txt
16:16 < nmz787> kanzure: yeah google is getting lamer and lamer
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16:22 <@kanzure> http://blog.23andme.com/news/announcements/learn-to-use-23andme-apis-with-codecademy/
16:22 <@kanzure> wasn't aware that 23andme had a public api
16:22 <@kanzure> https://api.23andme.com/
16:22 < klafka> yeah
16:23 < klafka> i'm thinking of getting 23andme at some point
16:23 <@kanzure> huh, ok. https://github.com/23andMe/api-example-flask
16:23 <@kanzure> i guess they would probably use oauth or something to authenticate third-party apps
16:24 <@kanzure> the raw data is small enough to just hand it over to third parties, really..
16:28 < klafka> well how much raw data do they give you?
16:28 <@kanzure> giant csv
16:29 < klafka>  i mean do they only give you your genotype?
16:29 < klafka> or can you get anonymized people's genotypes
16:29 < klafka> heh
16:29 < klafka> i'm assuming just yours?
16:29 <@kanzure> i don't think their api returns other people's genotypes, no
16:29 < klafka> LOL
16:29 < klafka> that would be kind of funny though
16:29 <@kanzure> i assume it's something like oauth
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17:13 <@kanzure> hmm internet archive is rolling out some new urls, http://web.archive.org/petabox/:date
17:13 <@kanzure> what is /petabox for?
17:17 < strangewarp> enclosing vegans
17:31 < klafka> wow http://projects.scipy.org/scipy/ticket/639
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18:17 <@kanzure> "My coffee retails for $12 a pound, but I'd be more than willing to trade a pound of coffee for like $6 (roughly what I buy it at) in [lab] supplies so that you come out on the top side."
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18:18 <@kanzure> i wonder if that's an exploitable relationship, how hard is it to sell a pound of coffee
18:18 < JayDugger> Is it any good?
18:19 <@kanzure> no idea
18:19 < JayDugger> For $12/lb retail, it costs as much as good coffee.
18:20 < JayDugger> Snob coffee costs a little more, unless you buy in 5-15 pound lots.
18:20 < JayDugger> But with sufficient snob appeal you can charge as much as you want.
18:21 < JayDugger> $6 of lab supplies buys what? a piece of glassware? some filter paper?
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20:24 <@kanzure> i am registering on the anti-doping drug tracking system thingy
20:24 <@kanzure> but i have to pick a sport
20:24 <@kanzure> which sport should i apply for?
20:24 < yashgaroth> you seem to have strong opinions on lifeguarding, go with your passion
20:27 <@kanzure> http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/ADAMS/Training_User_Guides/ADAMS_Codes_for_Sport_Discipline_Country_Region.pdf
20:27 <@kanzure> powerboating?
20:29 < yashgaroth> sitting volleyball sounds fun
20:29 <@kanzure> ah.. "electronic sports".
20:30 <@kanzure> oh good find
20:30 < yashgaroth> demand a typing speed league, then win it while on drugs; free oprah interview
20:31 <@kanzure> i think that's "electronic sports". or maybe only starcraft counts?
20:31 <@kanzure> please let galaga count
20:31 < yashgaroth> it's all LoL now apparently
20:31 <@kanzure> hm?
20:31 < yashgaroth> league of legends
20:32 < yashgaroth> is the new competitive esport du jour, as it were
20:34 <@kanzure> hope this works.
20:36 < yashgaroth> underwater orienteering
20:39 < nmz787> how do i grep recursively?
20:40 < nmz787> kanzure: maidstone coffee in rochester NY charges customers ~$6 per pound and they roast for all the Tim Hortons in U.S.A.
20:40 < nmz787> kanzure: that's to the public by single lb
20:41 < nmz787> kanzure: this is the last coffee I bought http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002GWFA1Y/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
20:41 < nmz787> $7.31/lb
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20:51 <@kanzure> nmz787: grep -r
20:51 <@kanzure> aww the email failed. how lame is that.
20:52 <@kanzure> "SMTP module(domain [68.115.195.195]) reports: No such recipient"
20:52 <@kanzure> what sort of sketchy sketchness is this
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21:06 < sheena1> is there any reason an ecg would need to be done the day before a doctors appointment, as opposed to a week or so before?
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21:09 < Viper168> what was that about
21:09 <@kanzure> disconnects
21:09 < Viper168> arlier yeah
21:09 < Viper168> *earlier
21:09 < Viper168> I've had it fixed for a while now
21:11 <@kanzure> http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13718/UCI-claims-WADA-Code-prevents-it-from-accepting-WADAs-request-for-witness-amnesty.aspx
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22:21 < sheena3> Test
22:21 < sheena1> woo
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