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00:00 < brownies> how many robots have you piled up in here?
00:00 <@kanzure> i think i count as four.
00:01 <@kanzure> there's just paperbot and i blame sbp/nsh/someone for yoleaux.
00:01 < brownies> i could bring mine in here if that would help add to the confusion
00:02 <@kanzure> i think .title and pdf fetching is useful. what does this other bot do?
00:02 < brownies> .botsnack
00:02 < yoleaux> :D
00:02 < brownies> he does math, unit conversions, and iOS-documentation-fetching =P
00:02 < brownies> i could also reenable the lolcat module if that is of interest
00:03 <@kanzure> it is not.
00:04 < brownies> once we get to infinite lifespans, there will eventually be nothing to do but generate lolcats
00:05 <@kanzure> if you say so. i will be contemplating the cosmic irony of lepton death.
00:05 < brownies> what kind of bot is yoleaux ?
00:05 < brownies> .wait
00:05 < yoleaux> brownies: Sorry, this command is admin-only.
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00:28 < brownies> .meow
00:28 < yoleaux> http://edgecats.net/cats/tumblr_lz0dvhxgRf1rp5nqgo1_400.gif
00:29 < brownies> kanzure: let that be a lesson to you.
00:29 < brownies> .meow
00:29 < yoleaux> http://edgecats.net/cats/tumblr_m3lr20w1WB1rtbmh0o1_400.gif
00:29 < brownies> hahaha... oh, the satisfaction.
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01:02 <@kanzure> postgresql can handle xml columns up to 2 GB in size.
01:02 <@kanzure> :(
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01:07 <@kanzure> searching through postgresql json columns looks very slow
01:07 <@kanzure> in particular the "query on name" slide here https://wiki.postgresql.org/images/b/b4/Pg-as-nosql-pgday-fosdem-2013.pdf
01:08 <@kanzure> 12.5s to search through json versus 250ms to search through relational tables
01:13 < ua> kanzure: try MongoDB, its schemaless by design
01:14 <@kanzure> the mongodb stats in that presentation are even worse
01:14 <@kanzure> i don't think you read the document.
01:14 < ua> im in 1/3
01:14 < ua> at?
01:14 < ua> ;p
01:15 <@kanzure> what?
01:15 < ua> at 1/3 instead of in 1/3
01:15 < ua> nvm
01:18 < brownies> kanzure: 12.5 SECONDS? jesus.
01:18 <@kanzure> yeah man just wait for the page to load
01:19 <@kanzure> switch up those dynos to maximum
01:20 < brownies> kanzure: did you see... did you see how i have made your robots dance for me
01:21 < brownies> kanzure: from the neckbeards in the postgres channel i had gathered that the JSON functionality was new but still interesting/worthwhile
01:21 < brownies> that said... i feel like "searching" through JSON is not going to be pleasant, regardless...
01:22 <@kanzure> no yoleaux isn't mine, someone just put it in here :|
01:22 <@kanzure> yeah i think postgresql json columns are clearly marked as "i want to believe" at this point
01:22 < brownies> kanzure: ah, heh. then they'll appreciate it, i'm sure =P
01:24 < brownies> kanzure: this may be insane, but what aobut just searching your JSON columns by treating them as text and beating together a scary-looking LIKE query?
01:29 < brownies> just read the benchmarks. pretty hilarious.
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06:42 < DonnchaC> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9780470638859.conrr391/pdf
06:42 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/6a80940ddcb11a55fd057cbb0f504e1e.txt
06:42 < DonnchaC> :(
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09:20 < DonnchaC> paperbot: https://www.thieme-connect.de.elib.tcd.ie/ejournals/pdf/10.1055/s-1992-26132.pdf
09:20 < paperbot> SSLError: hostname 'www.thieme-connect.de.elib.tcd.ie' doesn't match 'elib.tcd.ie' (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 632, in send)
09:20 < DonnchaC> paperbot: https://www.thieme-connect.de/ejournals/pdf/10.1055/s-1992-26132.pdf
09:21 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b338ae4cf461d9f14ef9a560cd24be9a.txt
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10:23 <@kanzure> yashgaroth: sup
10:24 < yashgaroth> heyo
10:45 <@kanzure> http://www.testbiotech.org/en/node/768 "Opposition to EU patents on 'humanzees', chimpanzees with human genes"
10:45 <@kanzure> humanzees, you say..
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10:51 <@kanzure> what "For the peace of mind of animal rights movement, we could consider humanzees as chimeric humans rather than chimeric chimps"
10:55 < yashgaroth> oh they're putting in part of a human immune system
11:01 <@kanzure> http://www.daniellemorrill.com/2013/03/angellist-receives-sec-no-action-letter-days-after-fundersclub/
11:01 <@kanzure> "On March 26th The Funders Club received a no-action letter from the Securities and Exchange Commission stating that it will not recommend enforcement action against the year-old private equity investment platform, making it the first online VC."
11:01 <@kanzure> "What has not yet been reported is that AngelList, a competing service used by early stage companies to receive introductions to investors and take some online investment, received its own no-action letter just two days letter on March 28th (embedded below)."
11:02 <@kanzure> i wonder why angellist is getting that no-action letter. they don't do "crowdfunding" really.
11:10 <@kanzure> matt maier is spamming the emailternets with his latest-and-greatest survey. i don't know why he doesn't just send the email to all the destinations at once. so far i have received four emails today about it (all copy-pasted, but all different emails and sent over the course of an hour).
11:17 <@kanzure> argh github "This repository is temporarily unavailable. The backend storage is temporarily offline. Usually this means the storage server is undergoing maintenance. Please contact support if the problem persists."
11:20 < brownies> that's quite odd indeed
11:20 < brownies> last i checked AngelList required everyone who was investing/etc to prove/affirm that they are accredited
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11:37 <@kanzure> copenhagen suborbitals things http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZCf8omwzUg
11:37 <@kanzure> .title
11:37 < yoleaux> Turbine Pump for TM65 - test run of prototype - Short Version - YouTube
11:39 <@kanzure> i don't think i've used "google refine" yet
11:39 <@kanzure> http://www.patinformatics.com/blog/expanding-patent-families-and-other-multi-value-fields-with-google-refine-open-refine/
11:42 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://arxiv.org/abs/1303.5524
11:42 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Global%20Network%20of%20Optical%20Magnetometers%20for%20Exotic%20Physics%20Novel%20scheme%20for%20exotic%20physics%20searches.pdf
11:42 <@kanzure> http://www.technologyreview.com/view/512871/astrophysicists-test-cosmological-defect-detector/
11:43 <@kanzure> "The idea is to create a global network of magnetic field sensors that monitor the spins of atoms at various magnetically shielded locations around the world. The network must be capable of spotting and filtering out the influence of the large environmental magnetic fluctuations such as those from the solar wind. Once that is done–no easy task–it should be possible to see atomic spins around the planet shimmer in near unison as the Earth ...
11:43 <@kanzure> ... passes through a domain wall."
11:44 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/03/21/1303829110
11:44 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Generation%20of%20induced%20neurons%20via%20direct%20conversion%20in%20vivo.pdf
11:45 <@kanzure> "Two years ago, researchers in Lund were the first in the world to re-programme human skin cells, known as fibroblasts, to dopamine-producing nerve cells – without taking a detour via the stem cell stage. The research group has now gone a step further and shown that it is possible to re-programme both skin cells and support cells directly to nerve cells, in place in the brain."
11:48 < archels> "When this happens, the atomic spin of every atom on the planet should wobble very slightly."
11:48 < archels> this is a discomforting thought
11:52 < brownies> i'm sure you won't feel a thing
11:53 < archels> yeah, I've been in a 7T MRI scanner, anyway
11:54 <@kanzure> was it activated?
12:00 <@kanzure> east bay diybio meeting #2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-jRCWLKrJ8
12:01 <@kanzure> also an earlier meeting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdTV5nQJce0
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12:10 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0052669
12:10 < paperbot> error: HTTP 500 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Statistical%20Basis%20for%20Predicting%20Technological%20Progress.pdf
12:10 <@kanzure> "Using a new database on the cost and production of 62 different technologies, which is the most expansive of its kind, we test the ability of six different postulated laws to predict future costs. Our approach involves hindcasting and developing a statistical model to rank the performance of the postulated laws."
12:13 <@kanzure> this is probably the same pycon/plover video, but whatever- http://lanyrd.com/2013/pycon/scdzbh/
12:15 <@kanzure> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpv-Qb-dB6g
12:15 <@kanzure> .title
12:15 < yoleaux> Plover: Thought to Text at 240 WPM - YouTube
12:18 < archels> yet another chord keyboard
12:20 <@kanzure> i think plover is worth trying. i am still skeptical about the key combos for punctuation for programming syntax, though. the plover developers claim it's easy to type out code but i'm still skeptical.
12:22 <@kanzure> https://github.com/plover/plover
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13:19 < ParahSail1n> neither of them do "crowdfunding"
13:19 < ParahSail1n> funders club is also accredited-investor-only
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13:34 <@kanzure> well, wefund isn't. i think.
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13:52 < ParahSail1n> correct
14:04 < brownies> .meow
14:04 < yoleaux> http://edgecats.net/cats/104.gif
14:04 < brownies> ...still not tired of that.
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16:09 <@kanzure> diybio-eu survey on something about extinction
16:09 <@kanzure> i don't really understand why this is a survey http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/BBYLKLQ
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16:10 <@kanzure> "If you were to revive one species, which one should it be?"
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16:11 < ThomasEgi> kanzure, go for "smart people"
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16:15 < chris_99> dinosaurs! (they're a species right ;)
16:16 <@kanzure> hmm i think i will answer amphicoelias because i could probably live on top of one
16:18 < chris_99> that looks very similar to the diplodicus? looking on google images
16:22 < ThomasEgi> everytime i read a product description where the device is described as "Unbreakable" . i feel like "challenge accepted"
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17:19 < pasky_> What are your opinions on http://nemaload.davidad.org/ ?
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17:25 < superkuh> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v30/n12/full/nbt.2436.html
17:25 < paperbot> HTTP 401 unauthorized http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v30/n12/pdf/nbt.2436.pdf
17:32 <@kanzure> pasky_: generally positive. davidad was in here a while ago talking about his work on it.
17:37 < pasky_> oh, cool.. thanks :)
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18:15 < eudoxia> >Hackers are persecuted by federal prosecutors while the basic needs of veterans go unmet. All purchases mediated by the defcad.com search engine will be rounded up to the nearest dollar; 50% of the proceeds will be donated to the VFW, and 50% will be donated to 4chan to support free speech on the internet.
18:15 < eudoxia> (defcad.com)
18:15 < eudoxia> i wonder of cody wilson browses /pol/
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21:40 < brownies> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=487332&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D487332
21:40 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/5444e8be19844220cc800724599570d8.pdf
21:42 < brownies> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=4376843&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4376843
21:42 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4695a76a6b1f46900ad0296c7baa5349.pdf
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22:09 < brownies> .meow
22:09 < yoleaux> http://edgecats.net/cats/tumblr_m3wxox7WOs1rows1to1_400.gif
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23:52 <@kanzure> huh, i don't remember "retro fringe" happening http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reaIcN61M-M
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