--- Log opened Thu Apr 18 00:00:01 2013 00:00 <@fenn> well obviously dole is an extraterrestrial sabotage agent from Sirius B intent on restricting civilian earth technology development, preferring to concentrate power into secret "black technology" elite in order to better control them 00:00 < brownies> i'd settle for a transcranial magnet hat 00:01 <@fenn> if you read the CIA sabotage manual you'll find a lot of advice on how to make more committee meetings and political busywork rather than actually blowing stuff up 00:02 <@fenn> what better way to colonialize a planet than to give with one hand and take with the other (silently and invisibly, of course) 00:04 <@fenn> okay i'm no good at this 00:04 <@kanzure> you are clearly out of practice 00:04 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-66-27-118-94.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:05 <@fenn> every time i see the name "dole" i think canned pineapple 00:05 <@kanzure> i've been thinking that the climate is probably good for proposing an "alternate" patent system 00:05 <@kanzure> lots of software people are increasingly angry about patents (probably the largest organized group at this point against patents) 00:05 <@fenn> they just did that, with the change to first-to-file 00:05 <@kanzure> no i mean.. an actually good way of keeping track of technology. 00:06 <@kanzure> you know, one that we wouldn't be embarrased about 00:06 <@kanzure> not legalese 00:06 <@fenn> like, uh, c2 wiki? 00:06 <@kanzure> maybe. i don't know. 00:07 <@kanzure> patent reform isn't going to radically change how much we suck as a planet at technology development 00:07 <@fenn> i mean, as far as keeping track of software goes, i'm not sure where i'd put an article on "one click ordering" 00:07 <@kanzure> i don't think it should be about articles 00:07 <@kanzure> EFF is proposing to USPTO that software patents must be submitted with source code 00:07 <@fenn> but software patents are just ideas, which is why people are mad about them 00:08 <@kanzure> i am speaking more generally about "how we as a society agree to communicate implementations, designs, schematics, source code to each other for a modern technology infrastructure" 00:08 <@kanzure> in 1000 years i really really hope that we don't have 15 million patents still 00:08 <@kanzure> hell in 10 years it would be neat if we could switch over to something else 00:09 <@kanzure> features that i want: 00:09 <@kanzure> source code. digital files. parseable schematics that don't require OCR. however, drawings are perfectly alright to attach and should be encouraged. 00:09 <@kanzure> machine readable metadata. 00:11 <@kanzure> so basically skdb 00:11 <@fenn> uh huh 00:11 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:11 <@kanzure> well surely you agree that keeping all of our inventions in legalese is dumb... 00:11 <@fenn> the US patent "data format" is at least a common denominator 00:12 <@kanzure> is it? i've seen lots of mechanical part patents that vary dramatically between each other. some have 20 schematics others do not. 00:12 <@fenn> the problem is that people have learned to obfuscate their invention descriptions 00:12 <@kanzure> also schematic style varies too. 00:13 <@fenn> different people/companies have different motivations to share or not share information, and unfortunately the requirements don't really demand very much 00:13 <@fenn> it's just broken 00:13 <@kanzure> everyone already agrees it's broken :P 00:13 <@fenn> i mean, a gene sequence is a chemical synthesis method, what? 00:14 <@kanzure> i'm interested in what a system would look like if it was developed on today's technology without requiring legacy support. 00:14 <@fenn> lots of xml and java 00:14 <@kanzure> haha 00:15 <@fenn> you think i'm joking 00:15 <@kanzure> i think USPTO is a big pile of technical debt. 00:15 <@kanzure> "Using PATENTSCOPE you can search 29,037,687 patent documents including 2,220,787 published international patent applications (PCT). " 00:16 <@fenn> and the federal reserve creates economic debt, also by design 00:17 <@fenn> i don't have any problem with 30 million patents, but most of them are just crap ideas in the first place 00:17 <@kanzure> nah i am just oggling around at numbers 00:17 <@fenn> and many of them are not sufficiently explained to replicate/implement 00:17 <@kanzure> i'm sure that a chunk of them are really neat, useful, etc. 00:18 <@kanzure> "this week in patents" http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/resultWeeklyBrowse.jsf 00:18 <@fenn> that should be a requirement; white box replication by scientist/technicians 00:18 <@fenn> you pay a fee for some schmuck to create your invention solely based on the patent description 00:19 <@fenn> if it doesn't work as described, rewrite the patent and resubmit it 00:20 <@fenn> this would be much more useful once we have general purpose robots 00:20 <@fenn> so i think it's premature to try to come up with a data format before there's any way to reliably, generically, consistently, execute the instructions 00:20 < brownies> but then who will hold the patent on those robots? 00:21 <@fenn> brownies: you're sort of missing the point 00:21 <@kanzure> i am co-opting the use of the word patent 00:21 <@fenn> the idea is "how should we store technical information" 00:22 <@kanzure> i am altering the terms of the agreement pray i don't etc.. 00:22 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:23 <@kanzure> "NOVEL LACTIC ACID BACTERIA AND COMPOSITIONS CONTAINING SAME" 00:23 <@kanzure> "SHOE HAVING COOLING FUNCTION AND HEATING FUNCTION" 00:24 <@fenn> bacteria patents at least has precedent with plant (breeder's) patents 00:24 <@kanzure> i'm not sure if the goal should be an ever-lasting data format, or just realizing that every 200 years you will have to repay your technical debt and convert everything. 00:25 <@kanzure> since it's never happened before, i don't have many examples to work from. 00:25 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@pool-96-231-37-73.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:25 <@fenn> project gutenberg? 00:26 <@kanzure> alright 00:26 <@kanzure> but.. don't they leave things out? they just do raw text, right? 00:27 <@fenn> uh. i don't know 00:29 <@fenn> they publish ascii, pdf, mp3, mpeg, midi, xml, and various ebook formats, but this doesn't tell me whether they include images from the source material 00:30 < brownies> forever is a rather long time to plan for 00:30 < brownies> best most organizations can do is like 3 years 00:31 <@fenn> this book has two options, images and no images: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/42549 00:31 <@fenn> i'm confused why HTML doesn't have a similar images/no images option 00:32 <@kanzure> "While the works in Project Gutenberg represent a valuable sample of publications that span several centuries, there are some issues of concern for linguistic analysis. Some content may have been modified by the transcriber because of editorial changes or corrections (such as to correct for obvious proof-setting or printing errors). The spelling may also have been modified to conform with current practices (although the intent by Project ... 00:32 <@kanzure> ... Gutenberg,[23] and by Distributed Proofreaders,[1] is to preserve the original text and where possible the formatting). This can mean that the works may be problematic when searching for older grammatical usage." 00:33 <@kanzure> i bet the answer is "it varies between each book" 00:34 <@fenn> well i can understand that, in the early days there were people with the extreme position that they should preserve typography errors and even the page layout (in ascii text!) 00:34 < brownies> that seems a bit counterproductive 00:36 <@fenn> anyway gutenberg has the advantage that they have a specific idea of what is "a book" and what is not a book, whereas i'm not sure there's a clear definition for invention or improvement or design or process 00:38 <@fenn> should note that in the old days a book referred to the abstract data structure, which could span many physical objects, or be part of a collection of books in a single bound volume 00:39 <@kanzure> not sure what i would do with materials research patents 00:40 <@kanzure> it is easier to deal with technology that is explicitly electronic (schematics), software (source code), genome-related (sequences), mechanical (solid modeling file formats, schematics). 00:41 <@kanzure> (and perhaps not all at once) 00:42 <@fenn> i'd leave off mechanical because the level of abstraction is less practical 00:43 <@kanzure> now that brlcad has nurbs intersection i don't see why not 00:44 <@fenn> electronics has enjoyed such success as formalism because 1) the laws are simple and mostly linear, and 2) being one-dimensional, the goal is clearly specified with a transfer function 00:46 <@fenn> i wanted to say something about manufacturing process being important, but i guess that's true with electronics as well, just there has been a trend toward formalizing the manufacturing process as well, so the designer doesn't have to invent his own manufacturing process as well the way mechanical engineers usually do 00:47 <@fenn> i mean electronics is physically 2D because of the way the process of assembling the circuit is communicated (or is it just convention) 00:48 <@fenn> anyway, a car can't be a flat 2d structure, a rocket can't be, a house can't be, etc 00:50 <@fenn> a chunk of doped silicon can be described as an ideal transistor, but in reality it has all sorts of fuzzy diffusion and mask errors and defects that may or may not be important to the function of the device 00:51 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:52 <@fenn> i guess what's important is that you only use things as they were intended to be used 00:53 <@kanzure> "2. Crontab style tasks are great... until they take a long time to complete and Celery kills them. And then you're back to regular crons (and there is nothing wrong with that)." huh. 00:57 <@fenn> are there fully-automated chemical synthesis work stations? for drug discovery and so on 00:59 <@fenn> i don't see why a file format/schema for something like this would be any less abstract than one for a CNC mill or PCB pick and place: http://www.gilsonuk.com/laboratoryAutomation/synthesis 01:00 <@kanzure> what i meant earlier about materials patents is that they often seem more like data that should be an addendum to CRC or something, but instead they are a patent on a particular material composition or something and some effect of that combination. 01:01 <@fenn> oh, i thought you were contrasting electronic/genome/mechanical to process/technique patents 01:01 <@kanzure> nope. 01:01 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n4/full/ncomms2747.html 01:01 < paperbot> HTTP 401 unauthorized http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n4/pdf/ncomms2747.pdf 01:01 <@kanzure> would have been “High-power lithium ion microbatteries from interdigitated three-dimensional bicontinuous nanoporous electrodes” 01:02 <@fenn> (aside from the fact that that's not a patent) is that the sort of thing that you'd call a materials patent? 01:03 <@kanzure> no, that's the sort of thing that i was hoping to read 01:03 <@kanzure> and now i am sad :( 01:10 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:13 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:35 -!- Suwap [~devillll@ppp-46-244-171-143.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:36 -!- Suwap [~devillll@ppp-46-244-171-143.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:39 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:40 -!- Suwap [~devillll@ppp-46-244-171-143.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:46 -!- Suwap [~devillll@ppp-46-244-171-143.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:49 < nmz787> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com.proxy.lib.pdx.edu/science?_ob=MiamiImageURL&_cid=271389&_user=1694017&_pii=S0022113900803413&_check=y&_origin=article&_zone=toolbar&_coverDate=1991-May-31&view=c&originContentFamily=serial&wchp=dGLzVlt-zSkzk&md5=0abeda3598ab79847d94e5c4c0d30e69&pid=1-s2.0-S0022113900803413-main.pdf 01:49 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/42652faac621e44e71b8f6bee0586439.txt 01:54 -!- Suwap [~devillll@ppp-46-244-171-143.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:54 -!- Suwap [~devillll@ppp-46-244-171-143.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:55 -!- Suwap [~devillll@ppp-46-244-171-143.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:55 -!- Suwap [~devillll@ppp-46-244-171-143.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:12 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:24 -!- Mariu [Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:24 < nmz787> kanzure: have you seen this? https://github.com/pybrain/pybrain/blob/master/pybrain/rl/environments/ode/environment.py 02:25 < nmz787> "Virtual simulation for rigid bodies. Uses ODE as a physics engine and OpenGL as graphics 02:25 < nmz787> interface to simulate and display arbitrary objects. Virtual worlds are defined through 02:25 < nmz787> an XML file in XODE format (see http://tanksoftware.com/xode/)" 02:25 < nmz787> not sure if that includes curve intersection :/ 02:56 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:56 -!- zubaz [~hexane@24.229.127.72] has quit [Changing host] 02:56 -!- zubaz [~hexane@unaffiliated/zubaz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:57 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:17 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-32.flip.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:22 <@kanzure> yeah i know about ODE 03:22 <@kanzure> and pybrain 03:22 <@kanzure> depending on what they are using intersections for, it could be anything from OpenGL rendering to subdivision 03:23 <@kanzure> marching subdivision marchingness 03:35 -!- Juul [~Juul@208.87.217.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:37 -!- Juul [~Juul@208.87.217.74] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:38 -!- Juul [~Juul@208.87.217.74] has 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Autodesk users can now access part information right within PLM360." 10:06 <@kanzure> octopart api v3 is out 10:08 -!- ianmathwiz7 [~chatzilla@nat-portal-160-94-47-16.uofm.wireless.umn.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:26 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@pool-96-231-37-73.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:38 -!- ianmathwiz7 [~chatzilla@nat-portal-160-94-47-16.uofm.wireless.umn.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:45 -!- Guest____ [~textual@pool-71-190-186-219.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:52 -!- Zarakii [~devillll@ppp-46-244-171-143.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:52 -!- Suwap [~devillll@ppp-46-244-171-143.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:57 -!- ianmathwiz7_ [~chatzilla@nat-portal-160-94-47-16.uofm.wireless.umn.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:58 -!- ianmathwiz7_ is now known as ianmathwiz7 11:08 -!- FooQuuxman [~arik@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: 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aha 15:40 < panax> you should be able to do that with a $2 microcontroller 15:40 < chris_99> nope 15:41 < chris_99> the stepper motor controller can drive the stepper 15:41 < chris_99> a MCU couldn't directly 15:41 < panax> and you need some transistors out there to drive it of course 15:41 < chris_99> which is almost a stepper motor controller then 15:42 < panax> it is 15:45 -!- augur_ [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:51 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 16:02 -!- FooQuuxman [~arik@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:13 -!- augur [~augur@ip-64-134-41-137.public.wayport.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:25 -!- Suwap [~devillll@ppp-46-244-171-143.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:29 -!- honey [~wtf-honey@unaffiliated/wtf-honey] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:30 < honey> hello 16:30 <@kanzure> hi. 16:30 < honey> hello 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