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06:07 < nmz787> paperbot: https://www.sciencemag.org/content/328/5986/1662.abstract
06:07 < paperbot> SSLError: [Errno 1] _ssl.c:504: error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 632, in send)
06:07 < nmz787> paperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/328/5986/1662.abstract
06:07 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Reconstituting%20Organ-Level%20Lung%20Functions%20on%20a%20Chip.pdf
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09:32 < kanzure> i wonder how many times i have to tell you that sciencemag is broken
09:32 < kanzure> before one of you goes to fix it
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10:19 < kanzure> Burninate: hello
10:19 < Burninate> hey
10:30 < kanzure> i think the san diego group is transferring to https://groups.google.com/group/biotechnbeyond
10:34 < kanzure> oh look they finally put rss links back into google groups, and then enabled them:
10:35 < kanzure> https://groups.google.com/forum/feed/phantomjs/msgs/rss.xml?num=15
10:35 < kanzure> they also have slightly less terrible url structures here, like:
10:35 < kanzure> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/phantomjs/prhe0UV0yHM/xp0RWE4HpvEJ
10:35 < kanzure> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/phantomjs/15ZYVknKZ1g
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10:39 < kanzure> although it's curious that they still have this endpoint spitting up different links:
10:39 < kanzure> https://groups.google.com/group/phantomjs/feed/rss_v2_0_msgs.xml
10:40 < kanzure> so instead of https://groups.google.com/d/msg/phantomjs/prhe0UV0yHM/xp0RWE4HpvEJ they link to http://groups.google.com/group/phantomjs/browse_thread/thread/a6b85ed14574c873/d594aabd39a5f5a4?show_docid=d594aabd39a5f5a4
10:41 < kanzure> oh oops, the order is different. that's partly why.
10:42 < kanzure> rss.xml has https://groups.google.com/d/msg/phantomjs/prhe0UV0yHM/xp0RWE4HpvEJ and the other one has http://groups.google.com/group/phantomjs/browse_thread/thread/a6b85ed14574c873/f1a6074e58119dc6?show_docid=f1a6074e58119dc6
10:47 < kanzure> $(echo "prhe0UV0yHM=" | base64 -d | xxd -ps) is "a6b85ed14574c873".. not sure what to do with xp0RWE4HpvEJ though.
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11:59 < eudoxia> paperbot: http://prb.aps.org/pdf/PRB/v41/i17/p11837_1
11:59 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/1c1bd049a5d4cc32ec5fbdb8dc664f28.txt
11:59 < eudoxia> >We regret having to add this extra step for our subscribers, but have found it necessary due to systematic automated downloading of our content
11:59 < eudoxia> uh oh
12:00 < kanzure> Please select the image of Albert Einstein below and click the submit button.
12:00 < kanzure>
12:01 < kanzure> /captcha_javascripts/aps_proxied_captcha.js
12:01 < kanzure> fine if you want me to execute javascript i will execute god damn javascript
12:01 < kanzure> if they want this war then they will have this war
12:01 < kanzure> but i will win.
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13:24 < kanzure> apparently meetup.com got east bay diybio, erm i mean, counter cult labs, a lot of foot traffick and attendance at their last meeting. i didn't think meetup.com still had any umph left.
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16:06 < kanzure> also i am curious if they have the permission to use that image of einstein. aren't those highly controlled by his estate?
16:20 < brownies> i think MeetUp is raking in the cash ever since they mvoed to their paid model
16:23 < kanzure> paperbot: http://prb.aps.org/captcha_javascripts/aps_proxied_captcha.js
16:23 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c6413094ebe8008fb398707f5693f844.txt
16:23 < kanzure> paperbot: http://prb.aps.org/captcha?proxied=true
16:23 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fe53c41fbff0e825b41ba267c62f142f.txt
16:25 < kanzure> i found it! http://prb.aps.org/captcha/3732ef22-ca49-11e2-8fcc-343c2a8c12be/bf127611f6
16:25 < kanzure> let's see..
16:25 < kanzure> http://tineye.com/search/8a4a0d8862f806ab4f69123539b3bbb2687b38a3/
16:25 < kanzure> 164 results
16:27 < kanzure> so i think a simple solution is to just wire up opencv and look for whatever is closest to a face.
16:27 < kanzure> last resort solution is mechanical turk
16:28 < kanzure> i wonder if it is always einstein
16:28 < kanzure> paperbot: http://prb.aps.org/pdf/PRB/v41/i17/p11837_1
16:28 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e13b1415a1c1a9d07f69584d7aa04a25.txt
16:28 < kanzure> yep
16:31 < kanzure> i also wonder if it always has the same md5 hash.
16:33 < kanzure> http://prb.aps.org/captcha/59197b5a-ca4a-11e2-950e-0b6c438bf10a/cd814dbc11
16:34 < kanzure> 67187f807ec8d0a6796d5e67ae2a3552 and bd101d0a0d695a657603a3475a206d59.. nope.
16:34 < kanzure> ok so at least they aren't insulting.
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16:47 < kanzure> reloading the link generates new variations of the same image
16:47 < kanzure> http://prb.aps.org/captcha/9cdc4fce-ca4b-11e2-964d-2105d586fdf3/09a6759ddf
16:47 < kanzure> if its only contrast changes, just do an image dot-product and pick the highest
16:47 < kanzure> you don't even have to recognize einstein, just all the other images
16:48 < kanzure> also, interesting that the captcha system works for non-subscribed users..
16:49 < kanzure> i wonder if i can POST a correct captcha answer from a non-subscribed address
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16:59 < nmz787_> Sup
16:59 < nmz787_> Just met with an EE who is helping with the spectrimeyer
17:00 < kanzure> just freaking out about the APS captcha, http://gnusha.org/logs/2013-05-31.log
17:00 < nmz787_> Spectrometer pcb
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17:01 < nmz787_> What kinda captcha
17:01 < kanzure> image recognition
17:01 < nmz787_> On open or closed access?
17:01 < kanzure> closed
17:01 < nmz787_> Like shows a pic of a cat, and expect the string cat?
17:01 < kanzure> but you can access the captchas from outside the network
17:02 < kanzure> einstein (probably an unlicensed einstein) pic
17:02 < nmz787_> On .myphone
17:03 < nmz787_> Don't have ezproxy bookmarklets
17:03 < kanzure> it's http://prb.aps.org/captcha?proxied=true
17:05 < kanzure> anyway, has he sent you a schematic? where is it?
17:08 < kanzure> i wonder what they are doing about their blind users
17:09 < kanzure> "Fuck the blind, no science for them."
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17:23 < Burninate> nmz787_: got a link about your spectrometer project?
17:23 < kanzure> http://openspectrometer.com/
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17:25 < nmz787_> No finished schematic.yet
17:25 < Burninate> cool
17:26 < Burninate> I'm familiar with the ghetto version - http://publiclaboratory.org/tool/spectrometer
17:26 < nmz787_> I have an Ok one in kicad and this guy is doing it in orcad
17:26 < nmz787_> No this is meant to be scientific grade
17:26 < nmz787_> But even mine isn't finished
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17:27 < nmz787_> I have to master ftdi usb chips in the next few days
17:27 < Burninate> I met the progenitor at a conference, we hung out and had crazy brainstorming for a few days :) Apparently he was getting some pretty fantastic results, his problem was convincing scientists that a $2 kit sold for $30 was comparable with a $1000 industrial piece
17:28 < kanzure> isn't he capturing literally less of the spectrum though? why would he compare it to a $1k instrument.
17:28 < Burninate> ideally you use a CMOS webcam with the hot mirror removed for full UV-opt-NIR
17:31 < Burninate> this is certainly a better raw sensor from a S:N perspective
17:35 < nmz787> Burninate: it's not comparable really
17:35 < nmz787> IMO he oversold, which seems a bit uncouth
17:36 < nmz787> CMOS is more noisy than CCD
17:37 < nmz787> and they didn't even select a webcam with a decent driver
17:37 < nmz787> it's on auto everything, so there's no exposure control, etc...
17:40 < Burninate> it's a box (a VHS case) with a diffraction grating and some software
17:40 < Burninate> you can improvize the diffraction grating using a reflective CD/DVD/BR
17:41 < Burninate> anyway...
17:42 < Burninate> I guess they updated to a stamped metal case :)
17:44 < Burninate> ugh, utter shit webcam was eventually chosen
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18:04 < phillyj> what's the best way to edit my pdf files?
18:04 < phillyj> the names of the pdfs, imean
18:05 < phillyj> and maybe tag it or something to make it easy for me to sort them out
18:07 < nmz787_> Kanzure says zotero
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18:09 < phillyj> oh yea, i remember; but I can't remember why I didn't try it out
18:09 < phillyj> must write that down
18:10 < phillyj> nmz787_: it's an off line tool, right
18:10 < phillyj> not like mendeley?
18:10 < nmz787_> Both maybe
18:11 < phillyj> oh, its a FF xtension
18:12 < phillyj> well, it kanzure recommends it, then it must be good
18:12 < phillyj> if*
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18:18 < kanzure> i do recommend it
18:19 < kanzure> there's also a version that is "standalone" that doesn't run "inside" firefox
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18:30 < yashgaroth> kanzure: I think that google group for the san diego lab is just for the super-cool core members at this point
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18:31 < kanzure> yashgaroth: perhaps i am too cool for school?
18:31 < yashgaroth> evidently
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18:33 < yashgaroth> eventually I think they want to run everything on biotechnbeyond.com somehow
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20:25 < kanzure> http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&id=9122999 "Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police
20:26 < kanzure> also, i'm doing a survey of developer salaries in SF: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5802295
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21:33 < kanzure> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1002/sce.21055/asset/sce21055.pdf?v=1&t=hhdrnmf9&s=f64b8e4d45b04ba5b3fda4f2197b468b7a31b06c
21:33 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/9019f5eb23c8f84038553db06fcdc991.txt
21:33 < kanzure> fuuuuuuck
21:33 < kanzure> http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/05/what-neurons-look-like-as-drawn-by-students-grad-students-and-professors/276446/
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23:23 < kanzure> oculus rift virtualboy emulator http://code.google.com/p/vbjin-ovr/
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23:59 < Juul> kanzure, lol
23:59 < Juul> i remember trying to hack a virtual boy into a one-eye "augmented reality" computer when i was 15
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