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http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?reload=true&tp&arnumber=4107565&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4107565 03:24 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4dcd6cdcf64c6226d843a8023a4d6d01.txt 03:24 < nmz787_> paperbot: http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D4107565 03:26 < nmz787_> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp%Farnumber%3D4107565 03:26 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/dda1c1348af6922da098b5058477daf2.txt 03:27 < nmz787_> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp%Farnumber%3D4107565 03:27 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/615d317f05652067eabcc818dd3f75df.txt 03:27 < nmz787_> paperbot: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fiel5%2F34%2F4107554%2F04107565.pdf%3Farnumber%3D4107565&ei=a-S-UaLSPMqAqQHbmoGgBw&usg=AFQjCNGFSihGTfOCxYPnBmJ5wCF5n5X4YQ&bvm=bv.47883778,d.aWM 03:27 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e74ab8b00feb039a27543a24dc480a60.txt 03:27 < nmz787_> ugh 03:28 < chris_99> have you seen http://sci-hub.org/ nmz787_ 03:28 < nmz787_> paperbot: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fiel5%2F34%2F4107554%2F04107565.pdf%3Farnumber%3D4107565&ei=veS-UYS5M8TIrQHKzYCoDQ&usg=AFQjCNGFSihGTfOCxYPnBmJ5wCF5n5X4YQ&bvm=bv.47883778,d.aWM 03:28 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c7b04c8793242b588c6c4ad4d53dbc38.txt 03:28 < nmz787_> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel5/34/4107554/04107565.pdf?arnumber=4107565 03:28 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/dd97fe11501cbc6357c4229d0492a2a7.pdf 03:29 < nmz787_> had to install a chrome extension to get rid of that annoying copy-paste bullshit 03:29 < nmz787_> for some reason it's called 'don't track me' i guess because that's what google is doing with that annoying crap 03:30 < nmz787_> i don't really care if google tracks link copying, but they could at least do it in javascript and not crap up the links 03:38 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:43 -!- Shehrazad [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:53 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-133.flip.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:59 -!- FooQuuxman [~test@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:39 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the 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harder, gradstudentbot 10:52 < gradstudentbot> Yeah, I read the paper, I just don't remember the details. 10:56 -!- kmo [~kmo@150.254.101.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:56 -!- kmo [~kmo@150.254.101.81] has quit [Changing host] 10:56 -!- kmo [~kmo@unaffiliated/kmo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:11 -!- kmo [~kmo@unaffiliated/kmo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:11 -!- obscurite_ [~obscurite@18.189.126.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:27 -!- obscurite_ [~obscurite@18.189.126.98] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:31 -!- obscurite_ [~obscurite@18.189.126.98] has quit [Client Quit] 11:37 < chido> kanzure: our hackerspace biolab has a channel and it would be awesome to have gradstudentbot there too 11:37 < gradstudentbot> I think I need a loan. 11:43 < phillyj> chido: give gradstudentbot some money and he'll come over 11:43 < gradstudentbot> Yeah, but his PI wrote his dissertation. 11:43 -!- phillyj [~chatzilla@static-96-227-241-38.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit 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known as ElixirVitae 17:01 < delinquentme> kanzure, im asking why you're doing windows bash 17:01 < kanzure> because they are paying me really well 17:02 < delinquentme> so not a particularly interesting field? 17:02 < delinquentme> ITS COOL HOMIE 17:08 -!- biostudent_ [~chatzilla@105.146.38.68] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:11 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@192-195-81-250.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:11 -!- biostudent [~chatzilla@105.129.57.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:12 -!- biostudent_ is now known as biostudent 17:20 -!- __tux__ [~tux@gateway/tor-sasl/tux/x-56109972] has quit [Quit: __tux__] 17:42 -!- wibroz [~emankcin@c-76-23-254-105.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:53 -!- biostudent [~chatzilla@105.146.38.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:59 < superkuh> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/swe.20043/pdf 17:59 < paperbot> no translator available, raw dump: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/5260481073ab2879b68a57df3179f613.txt 18:11 < kanzure> hmm paperbot is failing more regularly 18:17 -!- makoLime_origina [~mako@103-9-42-152.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:20 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-133.flip.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:32 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:44 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:55 < superkuh> http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2013/06/open-source-hardware-documentation-jam-a-report/ 18:57 -!- oblique [~oblique@unaffiliated/oblique] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:02 -!- oblique [~oblique@unaffiliated/oblique] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:10 < kanzure> oh boy prepare to be disappointed 19:11 < kanzure> "On April 26-28, more than forty people gathered in New York City for the first-ever Open Source Hardware Documentation Jam, an event inspired by a February meeting among co-organizers Marcin Jakubowski of Open Source Ecology, blogger and strategist Simone Cicero, and Catarina Mota of Open Materials and OSHWA. What emerged from that conversation was the idea of an inclusive, creative conversation – the Doc Jam, sited in New York but widely ... 19:11 < kanzure> ... promoted among the open source hardware community and beyond." 19:11 < kanzure> "Key to implementing that vision is developing a taxonomy for open source hardware documentation. Tim Asp, who works with Dozuki, explained to the taxonomy group at the Jam as they settled down to work: “So the goal of this session is to identify key pieces of information that are required to make documentation available and understandable for the end user, how to package that up and make it accessible between services.” Tim envisions a ... 19:11 < kanzure> ... documentation process that will be everything documentation in the past has tended not to be—easy to create, visually rich and precise, easy to find, and easy to access: “The goal is to make it easy to share online, painless so that people can really edit that information.”" 19:11 < kanzure> sounds like bullshit to me. why not actually focus on documentation instead of visual easiness? 19:11 < kanzure> *easyness 19:12 < kanzure> "We came up with a metatag of critical elements that allows anyone to find specific information on a piece of hardware.” As it turns out, the oManual file format being developed by the team behind iFixit and Dozuki emerged as the best starting point. iFixit/Dozuki is getting oManual approved by IEEE as a recognized standard for open manuals, and Marcin sees that it could be utilized by OSE: “We just found out about it, and that’s great ... 19:12 < kanzure> ... because if Dozuki is already developing a recognized, open standard, that fits with our open source process. The oManual standard allows a taxonomy to be imposed upon our documentation materials. " 19:12 < kanzure> "oh look, it just so happens that the best solution happens to be pimped by someone at the meeting" 19:12 < kanzure> oh no :( ", Dozuki enables documentation creators to easily create and incorporate full-color images, videos, voice annotations, text instructions and links into instructional apps." 19:13 < kanzure> why is this not obviously awful to everyone? 19:13 < gradstudentbot> I don't think our fume hood is safe. 19:13 < superkuh> Because it was on the OSE site and I assume they pre-filter bullshit. 19:13 < superkuh> assumed. 19:14 < kanzure> oh, they definitely don't. but really though- visual documentation is cool and all, but it's hardly the place you would start.. 19:21 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-66-27-118-94.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:27 -!- aristarchus [~aristarch@unaffiliated/aristarchus] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:38 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:39 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-59-118.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:41 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-59-118.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Client Quit] 19:42 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-59-118.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:45 -!- FooQuuxman [~test@c-98-215-254-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:46 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:47 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-59-118.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Client Quit] 19:50 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-59-118.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:53 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:00 < bkero> kanzure: I need to model some spatial stuff in Linux. What modeling program do I use? 20:22 -!- Proteus [~Proteus@unaffiliated/proteus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:32 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-59-118.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:42 -!- Proteus [~Proteus@unaffiliated/proteus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:43 < kanzure> bkero: no idea 20:45 * bkero tries some freecad. 20:46 < kanzure> huh? why is that an answer to "spatial stuff"? 20:46 < kanzure> you should use brlcad 20:47 -!- Proteus1 [~Proteus@97-121-116-180.omah.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:47 -!- Proteus1 [~Proteus@97-121-116-180.omah.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:48 -!- Proteus [~Proteus@unaffiliated/proteus] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:48 -!- Burnin8 is now known as Burninate 21:07 < abetusk> brlcad has a pretty steep learning curve 21:30 * brownies pokes gradstudentbot with a stick 21:30 < gradstudentbot> Wasn't there a paper about that? 22:10 -!- saurik [~saurik@carrier.saurik.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:10 -!- Juul [~Juul@c-67-170-193-114.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:30 -!- Juul [~Juul@50-0-83-158.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:38 -!- saurik [~saurik@carrier.saurik.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:39 -!- Juul [~Juul@50-0-83-158.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:41 -!- Juul [~Juul@50-0-83-158.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:51 * bkero checks out the protocase designer. 22:51 < bkero> That's domain-specific, but that's my domain. 23:03 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer] 23:35 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-108-18-159-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:35 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:35 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-108-18-159-219.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:35 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:42 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-66-27-118-94.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Log closed Tue Jun 18 00:00:00 2013