--- Log opened Sat Jul 06 00:00:17 2013 00:14 <@kanzure> ParahSail1n: it says you closed it? 00:14 < ParahSail1n> reopened 00:15 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:18 <@kanzure> k cool. i'm off duty. will get to this in a few hours. 00:18 -!- Juul [~Juul@208.87.217.74] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:27 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:33 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.10.141] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:44 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:16 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:21 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:28 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:04 -!- ParaSa1lin 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joined ##hplusroadmap 07:05 -!- DonnchaC_ is now known as DonnchaC 07:08 <@fenn> that urea factory email has 12,000 lines of 0 px css styling. i get a lot of unsolicited chinese product offers, i always figured it was some user data leak in alibaba's interface 07:19 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:24 -!- ryankarason [~rak@108-245-58-182.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:31 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:51 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-66-27-118-94.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:13 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.10.141] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:18 -!- randalla1ordon [~randall@71-38-132-174.ptld.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:18 -!- ianmathwiz7 [~chatzilla@68-115-57-210.static.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:20 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:21 -!- randallagordon [~randall@71-222-89-232.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:30 -!- nuba_ is now known as nuba 08:32 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:35 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:47 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.10.141] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:20 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:27 < jonathan___> paperbot are you there 09:27 < jonathan___> paperbot http://scitation.aip.org/qab_login.jsp?purchasable=true&d=1373128036310 09:27 < jonathan___> oh, poor paperbot 09:30 < yashgaroth> nah he's just sprinting to russia and back 09:33 < ParaSa1lin> no you have to tip better 09:33 < yashgaroth> .bottip $5 09:35 < ParaSa1lin> the issue is that page you linked has no navigable path to a pdf 09:36 < ParaSa1lin> its a pure login page 09:37 < ParaSa1lin> give it the abstract page 09:39 < brownies> .meow 09:39 < yoleaux> http://moar.edgecats.net/cats/tumblr_m7xj9rIz8v1rows1to1_500.gif 09:39 < paperbot> TypeError: unicode() argument 2 must be string, not None (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 825, in text) 09:39 < brownies> good to know the important robot functionality is still working. 09:41 < jonathan___> paperbot http://tpt.aapt.org/resource/1/phteah/v38/i4/p238_s1?isAuthorized=no 09:41 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/6303c7e4b164f359ae7adce4642858a6.txt 09:42 < jonathan___> nooooooooo 09:42 < jonathan___> paperbot http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=PHTEAH000038000004000238000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1119/1.880516&prog=normal 09:43 < jonathan___> poor little automation agent 09:43 < ParaSa1lin> that ones not gonna work until kanzure pulls recent changes 09:48 < jonathan___> "Why We MUST Tell Young Women Math Is Cool .... Women account for only 20% of the Bachelor’s degrees in engineering, computer science, and physics." forbes http://www.forbes.com/sites/netapp/2013/05/10/math-is-cool/ 09:49 < jonathan___> addendum: tell the cute girls repeatedly 09:50 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:51 < ParaSa1lin> its because of your dogmatism against froms in import statements 09:51 < ParaSa1lin> i hope you're happy 09:53 < jonathan___> oh yes, I am very content with myself 09:54 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:55 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:56 <@kanzure> ParahSai1in: could you put back in some of paperbot's debugging output? i feel like that shouldn't have happened. 09:56 <@kanzure> jonathan___: 20% is way higher than i thought 09:57 < jonathan___> there's a lot of girl math majors. I believe this is because it's a useless major and they pick useless topics by default. 09:57 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:57 < jonathan___> also to specifically get away from yucky engineering guys 09:58 < jonathan___> max max max 09:59 < jonathan___> will you be at lab on sunday 09:59 < delinquentme> ok soooo 09:59 < delinquentme> need data based awesome idea to pitch to a bunch of kids interested in hacking on humans 09:59 < delinquentme> what can we start working w right now? 09:59 < jonathan___> define hacking 09:59 < jonathan___> you can get an axe, they are good at hacking 10:00 < yashgaroth> yeah I'll be there tomorrow 10:00 < jonathan___> the obvious answer is have them collect biometrics 10:00 <@kanzure> here are things i need you to do: dna synthesis, transcranial ultrasound, organ perfusion, hplc things, taq production, wearable computer, diy afm 10:01 < ParaSa1lin> kanzure, that error was because i dont pass the scihub cookie to download_url 10:01 < ParaSa1lin> i just put a commit to my repo on that 10:01 < jonathan___> run the kids thru tabata drills against a control group and publish the results. 10:02 < jonathan___> yashgaroth: what time 10:02 < yashgaroth> 1 I guess? I'm flexible 10:02 -!- ParahSailin [~ropoctl@99-25-202-211.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:02 -!- ParahSailin [~ropoctl@99-25-202-211.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:02 -!- ParahSailin [~ropoctl@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:02 < jonathan___> I take it you don't go to noon mass at church on sundays. 10:03 < yashgaroth> they're doing mass on sundays now? 10:03 < jonathan___> uh you know the day of rest? 10:03 < jonathan___> the sabbath? 10:03 < yashgaroth> you mean saturday, surely 10:04 < jonathan___> sabbath as in black sabbath? ozzy? 10:04 < ParaSa1lin> kanzure, new pull request 10:04 <@kanzure> kk 10:05 < jonathan___> it's interesting that source collaboration still requires out-of-band communication to tell collaborators to pull and push. how come that isn't inside the system. 10:05 <@kanzure> it is inside the system 10:05 <@kanzure> he just doesn't know that 10:05 < jonathan___> notifications? 10:05 <@kanzure> yes. it's all based on email. 10:06 < jonathan___> ah see, that's out-of-band 10:06 < jonathan___> git itself should do it 10:06 < jonathan___> $ git notify me when changed 10:12 < ParaSa1lin> yeah im pretty sure it doesnt require out of band 10:13 < ParaSa1lin> doesnt it send emails or something whenever i sent pull request? 10:13 < ParaSa1lin> i guess email is technically out of band 10:14 -!- ParahSailin [~ropoctl@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has quit [Quit: ParahSailin] 10:16 * ParaSa1lin still has a google reader window open from before 10:16 < ParaSa1lin> still works 10:16 <@kanzure> ParahSai1in: you can probably retrieve it from your cache 10:18 -!- ianmathwiz7 [~chatzilla@68-115-57-210.static.eucl.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:19 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=64a0ae87 U-ACORNSYS\pwang: Env variable 10:19 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=27b25bee U-ACORNSYS\pwang: lxml etree instead of silly things 10:19 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=d58853b9 U-ACORNSYS\pwang: delete more cruft 10:19 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=ec225d68 U-ACORNSYS\pwang: oops, added back predicates 10:19 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=aab9aa3f U-ACORNSYS\pwang: Better integration with download_url 10:19 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=3fccd5df Bryan Bishop: Merge pull request #20 from rcallahan/master 10:19 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers 10:19 < paperbot> gnusha: (version: 2013-07-06 17:19:09) 10:20 < ParaSa1lin> paperbot, http://dx.doi.org/10.1119/1.880516 10:20 < paperbot> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'defcookie' (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 143, in download) 10:20 <@kanzure> paperbot: reload papers 10:20 < paperbot> kanzure: (version: 2013-07-06 17:19:09) 10:20 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1119/1.880516 10:20 < paperbot> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'defcookie' (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 143, in download) 10:22 -!- paperbot [~paperbot@131.252.130.248] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:23 <@kanzure> syntax error 10:23 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=579d533e Bryan Bishop: fix syntax error in modules/scihub.py 10:23 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers 10:27 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=bc7de60a Bryan Bishop: fix an AttributeError (be less redundant) 10:27 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers 10:28 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/paperbot/commit/?id=d990cad0 Bryan Bishop: fix typo (pheny -> phenny) 10:28 < gnusha> paperbot: reload papers 10:29 -!- paperbot [~paperbot@131.252.130.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:29 <@kanzure> ParahSai1in: still doesn't work, though 10:29 <@kanzure> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1119/1.880516 10:29 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a156fbffba257d05f61c01773ec0db5e.txt 10:30 < ParaSa1lin> paperbot, http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&id=PHTEAH000038000004000238000001&idtype=cvips&doi=10.1119/1.880516&prog=normal 10:30 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c6821dc147936475bd1572efa30f5f81.pdf 10:31 <@kanzure> it looks like the "reload papers" command doesn't work anymore because reloading the "papers" module doesn't reload the other modules. 10:32 <@kanzure> i mean, specifically it doesn't reload the scihub include. 10:32 <@kanzure> i think a better way to architecture paperbot would be to have a core library that is another python library, and then phenny would be just a thin wrapper around it. 10:32 <@kanzure> so there would be a phenny command file that would just "import paperbot" and paperbot would be somewhere on the $PATH. 10:32 <@kanzure> i mean, the $PYTHONPATH. 10:33 <@kanzure> it would also be nice to see an html page generated with error reports and diagnostics about each failure, like which methods were tried and what things need to be fixed, instead of spamming ##hplusroadmap with errors and sadness. 10:35 < jonathan___> there's an advertisement on page 1 of the pdf.. what? 10:35 <@kanzure> it seems to be a conference advertisement. i bet it's in-house. something about the journal or AIP. 10:36 <@kanzure> oh god look at that nasty watermark. 10:36 <@kanzure> but yeah, maybe we need to do ad block for science papers 10:39 < jonathan___> adblock for papers wtf 10:39 < jonathan___> first we pay for it with our tax dollars. then we have to pay for it again if we want to read it. then we are subject to advertisements after we paid for it twice? 10:43 <@kanzure> jonathan___: so, a while back i had this idea that i trashed.. the basic concept was to scrape all journals and get an index of all papers. then make a site where we estimate the tax dollars used to make each paper, based on the length of the paper, which journal, the journal's publishing fees, and how many coauthors (salaries). then make it into a tax spectacle. 10:43 <@kanzure> "This paper cost about $41,341. By the way, you can't read it." 10:43 <@kanzure> or rather, "This paper cost you $41,341. By the way, your mom is gonna die from fucking cancer." 10:43 < jonathan___> yea! 10:44 < jonathan___> well that's basically similar to my scripts. they retreived full indexes of all papers first. then downloaded them as a batch operation second. 10:44 <@kanzure> yeah, i think the index is critical 10:44 <@kanzure> otherwise how the hell do you know if you're complete or not 10:44 < jonathan___> coauthor salaries, that's hitting hard in the gut eh 10:45 <@kanzure> well, on the one hand people might be surprised to learn that scientists are poor as dirt, but whatever.. 10:46 < jonathan___> probably could ballpark the costs of "all combined papers" by using NIH yearly budget and assuming some % of grant is the documentation process 10:46 < gradstudentbot> Who the hell stole my pipette? 10:46 <@kanzure> sort of, but i would be more extreme than that 10:46 < jonathan___> yes, drive it home 10:46 <@kanzure> because frankly once the projects are gone, the only thing we have are (1) somewhat trained scientists and (2) papers 10:46 <@kanzure> not like the animal samples are going to be kept around. you *might* get a new plasmid in a repository. 10:46 < jonathan___> ..often bad papers with no data 10:47 <@kanzure> and it would cost 2x just to repeat it. and nobody would want to because it would kill their career. 10:47 <@kanzure> or at least, it would kill someone's career, either theirs if they don't manage to repeat (i.e., can't get to the point of even a negative result), or it would kill the original authors' careers a bit, etc. 10:48 < jonathan___> yes and detract from finding something else "novel" 10:48 <@kanzure> haha 10:49 < jonathan___> the quest for novelty is what kills the urge to optimize science 10:49 < jonathan___> "why do we need to automate this, we only do it once" gaaah 10:49 <@kanzure> you can get a lot more bang-per-buck by picking better projects. 10:50 < delinquentme> so yeah im at this 10:50 < delinquentme> http://humanapisf.eventbrite.com/ 10:50 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/51663d713b71dffeed05b77c6f17e1f6.txt 10:50 < delinquentme> tldr they want us to dev for their api hahah 10:50 < delinquentme> HMMMMMM is this marketing? 10:50 <@kanzure> yes, this is a common hackathon scam 10:50 <@kanzure> a company sets up a hackathon, gets programmers to show up 10:50 <@kanzure> and then all projects must use their api 10:50 <@kanzure> and it's some boring old shit 10:50 <@kanzure> and by the way you probably don't own your work 10:51 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.10.141] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:52 < delinquentme> NERTWERKING 10:53 < delinquentme> kanz whatchoo doin 10:53 <@kanzure> hiring gullible children to do my bidding for me 10:57 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:58 < jonathan___> the interesting thing about medical or health or wellness data online is that there is all this technology to get it done and at the end of the day the business guys say "yea but how do we monetize this?" 10:58 < jonathan___> they say "so we could use this as a service model for recurring revenue?" 10:58 < jonathan___> no dudes you could save people's lives 10:59 < jonathan___> they say "so if we could get, say, $10 to $15 dollars per month for this..." 10:59 < jonathan___> (facepalm) 11:09 <@kanzure> ParahSai1in: i think paperbot is scanning all links now. which is how http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/51663d713b71dffeed05b77c6f17e1f6.txt happened.. 11:09 <@kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/51663d713b71dffeed05b77c6f17e1f6.txt 11:09 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d95dac9d40a304758f99f367735bf1c3.txt 11:09 <@kanzure> yeah.. 11:10 <@kanzure> that's not good 11:10 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:11 < delinquentme> kanz. 11:11 < delinquentme> i feel used. 11:11 < delinquentme> lol 11:12 <@kanzure> hrm? 11:12 <@kanzure> oh, hackathon 11:12 < delinquentme> muh butt hurtsz 11:12 < delinquentme> you're out on the 15th?? 11:13 <@kanzure> huh? 11:22 <@kanzure> http://genofond.org/ libgen 11:22 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/189b1380d6aa46f29b630a7196ae0357.txt 11:22 <@kanzure> grr paperbot, go away 11:22 -!- paperbot [~paperbot@131.252.130.248] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:24 -!- jonathan___ [~jonathan@wsip-70-167-73-242.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: jonathan___] 11:25 < heath> nmz787_: you helped with j5? 11:30 <@kanzure> http://genofond.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6452 11:31 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:35 <@kanzure> http://alibabahost.com/100tb-offshore-servers.html 11:48 -!- speedwagon [~Markus@p57A812D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:51 -!- ryankarason [~rak@108-245-58-182.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:01 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.10.141] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:05 < nmz787_> heath: nah, did other stuff at jbei 12:06 < yashgaroth> oh hey nmz787_ yes I do check the logs for my name 12:11 < heath> yashgaroth == nmz787_ 12:12 < nmz787_> hey 12:12 < nmz787_> ok 12:14 < nmz787_> yashgaroth: i don't see anything new 12:14 < yashgaroth> I replied about the gfp in nails yesterday if that's what you mean 12:14 < nmz787_> yeah 12:14 < nmz787_> no 12:14 < nmz787_> never saw an article on gfp silkworms 12:15 < nmz787_> gfp or caffeine could be proof-of-concept 12:15 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:15 < yashgaroth> erm like synthesizing caffeine in the body? 12:15 < nmz787_> but i'd be crazy if i could bite my nails and eat some high value medicine 12:15 <@fenn> i saw the gfp silk article (in c&e news i think) 12:16 < nmz787_> yeah but just in the nail/hair, and such that it didn't leak back into the blood 12:16 <@fenn> they had other colors too, not just green 12:16 < nmz787_> so you'd have to eat/smoke/extract it 12:16 < yashgaroth> synthesizing caffeine in mammalian cells in hard enough, I'm sure localizing it is trivial in comparison 12:16 < nmz787_> like i said, caffeine would be proof-of-concept, i actually don't want caffeine 12:16 < yashgaroth> also it's got a pretty high ED50 12:17 < yashgaroth> oh well it's no harder than any other small molecule not made in mammals 12:17 <@fenn> why bother making caffeine? there's plenty of it already 12:17 < nmz787_> anyway, gfp would be a fine proof 12:17 < nmz787_> fenn: right 12:17 < nmz787_> fenn: was an example that i thought wouldn't cause much stir 12:17 < nmz787_> i was wrong :( 12:17 < nmz787_> i actually want them to make mind-bending drugs 12:18 < nmz787_> left hand meth, right hand diazapam 12:18 <@fenn> bromo dragonfly 12:18 < nmz787_> morning and night hand 12:18 < yashgaroth> you could do DMT that's about it really 12:18 < nmz787_> that could come from my ear hair cells 12:18 < nmz787_> yashgaroth: yeah 12:18 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:18 < nmz787_> yashgaroth: that's simple 12:19 <@fenn> DMT is also already commonly available 12:19 -!- ringo_ [4fa5fb67@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.165.251.103] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:19 < nmz787_> i cut my hair/beard and think that if only it was a high-value drug, it would be worth something 12:19 <@fenn> btw what are we talking about? why mammalian cells? 12:19 < nmz787_> fenn: not really in a nice form tho 12:19 < nmz787_> fenn: my hair and nail cells are mamallian 12:20 < yashgaroth> it's schedule I but you have a point, still it's only a proof of concept 12:20 < nmz787_> er mammalian 12:20 <@fenn> there's no such thing as a "hair cell" 12:20 < nmz787_> there must be 12:20 < nmz787_> something becomes/makes hair 12:20 <@fenn> sure, follicle cells 12:20 < nmz787_> afaik it was a mix of dead cells and proitein 12:20 < nmz787_> fenn: so i was asking yashgaroth how easy it would be to transform them 12:21 < nmz787_> since he's all knowing about skin electroporation 12:21 < nmz787_> seems like an easier target than muscle even 12:21 < yashgaroth> higher turnover in skin, shorter halflife for plasmids 12:21 < yashgaroth> many more immune cells 12:22 <@fenn> this is just a human transformation demo? GFP should do fine then 12:22 < nmz787_> you're saying you might risk transforming the WBCs? 12:23 < yashgaroth> no I'm saying you risk exposing the gfp-transformed cells to the immune system whereupon the transformed cells will be destroyed 12:23 < nmz787_> fenn: no, like i said, i want high-value drugs in my nails and hair, different patches/fingers would be different drugs 12:24 <@fenn> um, there's the obvious problem where you're high on drugs constantly 12:24 < nmz787_> no 12:24 < nmz787_> read the logs 12:24 < nmz787_> 12:16 < nmz787_> yeah but just in the nail/hair, and such that it didn't leak 12:24 < nmz787_> back into the blood 12:24 <@fenn> what day/channel was that? 12:25 -!- ringo_ [4fa5fb67@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.165.251.103] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:25 < nmz787_> 8 mins ago 12:25 < nmz787_> 9 now 12:25 < nmz787_> this onee 12:25 <@fenn> okay. 12:25 <@fenn> thanks for humoring me 12:26 < nmz787_> :D 12:26 <@fenn> you could transform the follicle cells outside of the body and then implant them 12:27 <@fenn> i still think you'd be high on whatever drug as long as the cells are in your body 12:27 < nmz787_> anyway, it would certainly be difficult, but it would be damn sweet and potentially life saving (one fingernail could have a single dose of epinephrine or some other crap) 12:27 < nmz787_> fenn: well, no 12:27 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:27 <@kanzure> why wouldn't you just use fingerpaints instead? 12:27 < nmz787_> fenn: that's specifically not a goal 12:28 <@kanzure> then you can just have epinephrine fingerpaint, and adrenaline fingerpaint, etc. 12:28 < nmz787_> kanzure: because my fingers don't synthesize paint either 12:28 < nmz787_> i want to depend less on anything but my body 12:28 < nmz787_> my nails don't serve enough functions 12:28 <@fenn> how about inserting genes for vitamin C synthesis 12:29 < nmz787_> i hadn't thought about it til now, but the extra chems in the nail could weaken it 12:29 < nmz787_> but i guess certain drugs that are not too flexible could strengthen or not change it much 12:29 < nmz787_> i don't know about nail structure much on the molecular level 12:29 < nmz787_> or hair 12:29 <@fenn> how about incorporating metalloprotein complexes such as wear-resistant carpenter ant jaw tips 12:30 < nmz787_> that would be functional, sure 12:30 < nmz787_> have a pinky nail that's extra hard/sharp/wear-resistant 12:30 <@fenn> then you could become a professional backscratcher 12:30 < nmz787_> 'you have to cut your nail to come on the airplane, sir' 12:31 < nmz787_> 2-part suicide bomber fingernails, blow up when brought into contact 12:31 <@fenn> organic LED fingernails 12:31 < nmz787_> i knew a beekeeper that always had a long pinky nail 12:32 < nmz787_> so he could scrape out stingers 12:33 < nmz787_> yashgaroth: can you prevent MHC presentation? 12:33 < yashgaroth> viruses try that 12:34 < yashgaroth> generally a cell that doesn't present MHC is killed, and you can't block a specific protein from being presented 12:35 < nmz787_> well just for a certain 1 protein 12:36 < nmz787_> there must be some bigger protein that would bind the MHC:GFP complex as it was translocating, and stop it 12:36 < nmz787_> s/would/could/ 12:37 < yashgaroth> there would be a number of gfp peptides attached to TAP and you would need a 'bigger protein' specific for each of those, as well as an even bigger protein for all the peptides from your original bigger proteins 12:37 <@fenn> http://io9.com/5839156/what-can-this-glow+in+the+dark-kitten-teach-scientists-about-aids 12:37 <@fenn> i've never seen a GFP cat before 12:39 < nmz787_> hmm, is there a way to preven peptidase from chewing up and making GFP big->small 12:39 < nmz787_> ? 12:40 < yashgaroth> no 12:41 <@fenn> woah sweet i want this http://miqel.com/new_information/image_2008/gfp_in_bones.jpg 12:44 < nmz787_> yashgaroth: so what about modding my unfertilized kids nails/hair? 12:44 < yashgaroth> oh yeah way easier 12:44 < nmz787_> the not leaking into the blood thing seems like it'd be the major hurdle 12:45 < nmz787_> i dunno if nails are composed of cells 12:45 < nmz787_> or just keratin 12:45 < gradstudentbot> Okay, someone really needs to do the lab dishes. 12:45 < nmz787_> if the latter, the chem would need to be exported 12:45 < nmz787_> but only in one direction, and then i wonder what the rate of diffusion in nail is 12:46 < nmz787_> not too wet, but it could lead to fenn's concern of being high all the time 12:47 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.10.141] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:55 -!- speedwagon [~Markus@p57A812D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:58 <@fenn> kanzure: have you seen magzdb.org? 12:59 < delinquentme> what areas of the body have pretty exposed capillary beds? 12:59 < delinquentme> wrist... 13:00 < delinquentme> mouth and those things ... I'm wondering where we can grab MEANINGFUL data from 13:00 < delinquentme> do we always need a blood sample? 13:00 < delinquentme> has anyone developed a pesistent vein breach to take continuous blood samples from? 13:01 <@fenn> chemotherapy patients often get a silicone "port" installed near their collarbone.. 13:02 <@fenn> seems kinda invasive though 13:02 < delinquentme> COOOL 13:02 < delinquentme> pics? 13:05 <@fenn> reminder to self, don't get cancer 13:06 < nmz787_> i've heard all ports have biofilm and contam problems 13:07 < nmz787_> maybe you could scarify some kind of lesion 13:08 < nmz787_> delinquentme: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Beaumont#Experiments_with_St._Martin 13:08 < nmz787_> natural port 13:09 < delinquentme> oh sure and we do this with cows 13:09 < delinquentme> im just wondering about how its implemented 13:10 <@fenn> the chemo port isn't a window, it's a membrane you can repeatedly jab with a needle and not collapse the vein 13:11 <@fenn> anyway it's an infection risk 13:12 < nmz787_> delinquentme: best to go ask some cow people 13:12 < nmz787_> delinquentme: a sphincter would work 13:13 < nmz787_> graft your asshole to your neck, just use a colostomy bag 13:14 < delinquentme> hahahaha 13:14 < delinquentme> OHHHHH 13:14 < delinquentme> what membrane made otu of 13:14 < delinquentme> the portion you're jabbing through 13:14 <@fenn> silicone rubber 13:16 < gradstudentbot> The gel is streaking. 13:17 < gradstudentbot> When is he back from sabbatical? 13:20 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.10.141] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:23 <@kanzure> fenn: not that i recall 13:32 -!- marciogm [~textual@177.106.10.141] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:37 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:39 -!- randalla1ordon [~randall@71-38-132-174.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:50 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:51 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:52 -!- phillyj [~Thunderbi@pool-108-16-169-193.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:52 -!- ParahSailin [~ropoctl@1053ahost2.starwoodbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:52 -!- ParahSailin [~ropoctl@1053ahost2.starwoodbroadband.com] has quit [Changing host] 14:52 -!- ParahSailin [~ropoctl@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:53 -!- makoLime [~mako@103-9-42-152.flip.co.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:55 -!- randallagordon [~randall@71-38-132-174.ptld.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:00 < EnLilaSko> Is there a way to get this? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/5723186 15:06 < EnLilaSko> No paperbot? 15:15 < ParahSailin> did i kill paperbot 15:16 < EnLilaSko> http://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2FBF00401343.pdf - dowant 15:17 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:21 -!- speedwagon [~Markus@p57A812D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:27 -!- strangewarp [~C@c-67-176-51-26.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: austerity chic brand destruction] 15:30 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@66.233.132.203] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:32 -!- ParahSailin [~ropoctl@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has quit [Quit: ParahSailin] 15:33 -!- ParahSailin [~ropoctl@1053ahost2.starwoodbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:33 -!- ParahSailin [~ropoctl@1053ahost2.starwoodbroadband.com] has quit [Changing host] 15:33 -!- ParahSailin [~ropoctl@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:33 <@kanzure> someone should remind me to fix http://gnusha.org/logs/2013-07-05.log 15:33 -!- strangewarp [~C@c-67-176-51-26.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:34 <@kanzure> EnLilaSko: i have paperbot offline for a while because i didn't have time to fix it 15:34 <@kanzure> EnLilaSko: it was downloading all links and spamming up the channel 15:34 < EnLilaSko> ah, ok 15:34 <@kanzure> ParahSailin: not entirely your fault. well, mostly your fault. but since i can't explain how it is your fault, you get to escape blame. 15:34 < EnLilaSko> I posted on reddit anyway, I'll get the paper 15:34 < EnLilaSko> but great work with the bot 15:34 <@kanzure> EnLilaSko: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/articles 15:35 < ParahSailin> downloading everything eh 15:35 <@kanzure> well, it was always downloading everything, but it shouldn't tell me that it is doing that 15:35 <@kanzure> i.e., if i post a random link to a youtube video, it shouldn't post the html of that page 15:35 -!- ParahSailin [~ropoctl@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has quit [Client Quit] 15:35 <@kanzure> okay fine quit while you're ahead 15:37 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 15:39 -!- phillyj [~Thunderbi@pool-108-16-169-193.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: phillyj] 16:04 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@66.233.132.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:26 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:27 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:41 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:41 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:53 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:04 < delinquentme> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/160458-how-to-write-with-single-atoms-on-the-cheap << these are all false color images right? who applies these colors to these images? 17:16 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:29 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:36 < Burninate> there's a distinction between 'colorspace mapped' false color as in things like astrophotography, and 'hand-colorized' false color 17:37 < Burninate> Is all electron microscopy the latter? 18:01 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:13 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:27 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:39 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@66.233.132.203] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:51 < nmz787_> delinquentme: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/atomic_calligraphy__the_direct_writing_of_n_anoscale_structures_using_a_microelectrochemical_system.pdf 18:52 < nmz787_> delinquentme: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/atomic_calligraphy__the_direct_writing_of_nanoscale_structures_using_a_microelectrochemical_system.pdf 18:52 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:52 < gradstudentbot> Should I be doing this in the fume hood? 18:53 * brownies pokes gradstudentbot 18:53 < gradstudentbot> Sorry for wasting your time. 18:53 < brownies> heh. 19:16 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@66.233.132.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:37 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:39 -!- ielo [~ielo@pool-96-255-47-217.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:57 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:59 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:04 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:04 -!- artao [~artao@50-50-190-241.snpr.wi.frontiernet.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:04 < artao> aha 20:05 -!- artao [~artao@50-50-190-241.snpr.wi.frontiernet.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 20:08 <@kanzure> gone :( 20:08 <@kanzure> http://nocash.emubase.de/pandocs.htm 20:08 <@kanzure> oops 20:08 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:16 < delinquentme> http://news.discovery.com/tech/biotechnology/first-human-liver-stem-cells-130705.htm 20:16 < delinquentme> why brain? 20:16 < delinquentme> why transplant liver into a brain? 20:22 < nmz787_> delinquentme: find the original paper 20:23 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-24-21-206-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:25 < nmz787_> delinquentme: maybe to prevent rejection? blood brain barrier yashgaroth ? 20:26 < nmz787_> delinquentme: this was last year too http://www.nature.com/news/rudimentary-liver-grown-in-vitro-1.10848 20:26 < yashgaroth> yeah that's a reasonable explanation 20:27 < yashgaroth> "replacement glass skull" oh hell yeah that sounds boss 20:27 < delinquentme> ^ 20:27 < delinquentme> thats what i said! 20:28 < nmz787_> delinquentme: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Vascularized_and_functional_human_liver_from_an_iPSC-derived_organ_bud_transplant.pdf 20:28 < delinquentme> this is kinda sexy I've not learned how the brain is perfused before 20:29 <@kanzure> hmm 20:29 <@kanzure> https://github.com/virtualopensystems/linux-kvm-arm/commits/kvm-arm-master 20:29 < gradstudentbot> I'm so doing industry. 20:31 <@kanzure> "Showcased at ARM TechCon 2012, this is a demonstration of two Guests (Android and Ubuntu), being fully virtualized with KVM-on-ARM on Versatile Express development hardware. It is meant as a proof of concept, to establish the feasibility and near-native performance of KVM on the v7 ARM architecture." 20:31 < nmz787_> "Haemodynamic stimulation is essential for liver-bud maturation12. To test whether human iPSC-LBs were capable of generating completely functional liver, we used a cranial window model because of the optical access13" 20:31 <@kanzure> "This KVM demo by Virtual Open Systems demonstrates a Multi-Persona Android Virtualization with KVM on ARM Cortex A15, of interest for smartphones and tablets. The demo runs on ARM's Versatile Express with a Cortex-A15 dual core processor running at 1 GHz with 2 GB of RAM. Android Guest benchmark exhibits near native CPU performance." 20:34 < nmz787_> here's citation 13 http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Tissue_engineering_Creation_of_long-lasting_blood_vessels.pdf 20:35 < delinquentme> SO 20:35 < delinquentme> BBB... filtering of large particles ... keeps certain hormones ... 20:36 < nmz787_> hmm, it doesn't seem to mention anything about a brain window in that 20:36 < delinquentme> but if these are developing correctly ... thats something to keep in mind for growing organs 20:37 < delinquentme> nmz787_, yeh theres another post from a few days back 20:37 < delinquentme> http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/jul/03/human-liver-stem-cell-treatment 20:37 <@kanzure> huh, the nexus 4 has a qualcomm snapdragon s4 which is armv7.. seems to have virtualization extensions. 20:38 < delinquentme> im guessing they're using immunodeficient mice? 20:38 < delinquentme> the paper talks about connecting them up in mouse 20:38 < delinquentme> ... the human livers 20:39 < delinquentme> also I was reading earlier about the gal gene? 20:39 < delinquentme> has to do with horse porn 20:39 < delinquentme> erm . inter species organ immuno reactions 20:42 < nmz787_> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11131537 20:43 < nmz787_> .title 20:43 < yoleaux> Molecular and cellular mechanisms in imm... [Novartis Found Symp. 2000] - PubMed - NCBI 20:43 < nmz787_> " Rejection of neural xenografts is expected to be of a cellular nature, like neural allograft rejection, but may also display unique features, and cannot be dealt with using conventional immunosuppressive therapies." 20:43 < nmz787_> :/ 20:43 < nmz787_> sounds reasonable line of thinking I guess, but I'm no expert 20:44 < delinquentme> The liver tissue made so far used human cells from a number of different people, and any patient who received a transplant would need to take drugs to prevent rejection, as with any other organ transplant. As technology advances, though, it may become possible to make liver tissue from a patient's own cells, which would not be rejected. 20:45 <@kanzure> http://translatedcode.wordpress.com/2013/03/08/qemu-kvm-on-armv7-support-is-upstream/ "This week the QEMU support patches for KVM on ARM were accepted into upstream. Since the kernel KVM on ARM patchset was accepted for the 3.9 kernel, this means that there is now enough support in purely upstream kernel and QEMU for basic working KVM on ARMv7 cores with the Virtualization Extensions (specifically, Cortex-A15). There are still a number of ... 20:45 < delinquentme> I dont understand the part where we're iPScing things and its someone elses cells.. 20:45 <@kanzure> ... features left to be implemented but nonetheless I feel this is an important milestone." 20:46 <@kanzure> "KVM ARM will only work for ARMv7a processors with virtualization extensions." cool 20:47 < klafka_> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cns.12063/abstract 20:47 < klafka_> aww 20:49 <@kanzure> paperbot is gone because it is spamming the channel because of a bug 20:50 < klafka_> aaah 20:50 <@kanzure> feel free to investigate a fix :P https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot 20:51 <@kanzure> "Krait has been upgraded to support the new virtualization instructions added in Cortex A15" 20:51 <@kanzure> i think this means my phone can run osx 20:52 <@kanzure> oh wait, no, only other arm operating systems 20:52 <@kanzure> so, debian-armv7 i guess. which isn't that bad. 20:52 <@kanzure> "Krait implements v7-A with virtualization and physical address extension as well as fma; same ISA as A15." 20:54 < delinquentme> omg. 20:54 < delinquentme> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature12271.html 20:54 < delinquentme> need 20:54 <@kanzure> .title 20:54 < yoleaux> Vascularized and functional human liver from an iPSC-derived organ bud transplant : Nature : Nature Publishing Group 20:58 < nmz787_> posted the link to the pdf 30 mins ago http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Vascularized_and_functional_human_liver_from_an_iPSC-derived_organ_bud_transplant.pdf 20:59 < nmz787_> see logs 20:59 < nmz787_> 230:28 20:59 < nmz787_> 20:28 21:05 <@kanzure> oh weird, the APQ8064 is 32-bit. 21:08 <@kanzure> weird, the APQ8064 datasheets are "confidential and proprietary" and not available to the public. that's crazy. 21:31 -!- ielo [~ielo@pool-96-255-47-217.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:33 < delinquentme> Once the liver buds were about 4 or 5 millimeters, the team implanted 12 liver buds into either the brain or abdomen of each mouse—sites chosen for their ease of access. 22:09 -!- ianmathwiz7 [~chatzilla@rrcs-74-87-90-2.west.biz.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:10 -!- ianmathwiz7 [~chatzilla@rrcs-74-87-90-2.west.biz.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 22:12 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@199.21.86.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:14 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: video games] 22:23 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@66.233.132.203] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:23 -!- jonathan_ [~jonathan@wsip-70-167-73-242.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:24 < jonathan_> "just use arduino" baaaahhh 22:25 -!- jonathan_ [~jonathan@wsip-70-167-73-242.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:30 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:31 -!- augur [~augur@208.58.5.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:56 -!- AlonzoTG [~atg@pool-108-28-74-221.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:59 < rigel> its really great when you spend a couple hours on a problem and figure out how to solve it 23:00 < rigel> i was dreading wading back into my web scraping project 23:00 < rigel> but it's working now. i need to comment my code in a more structured way, but just commenting in the first place is amazingly helpful 23:06 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:16 -!- speedwagon [~Markus@p57A81179.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:30 -!- AlonzoTG [~atg@pool-108-28-74-221.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:36 -!- ksjdhfksjdhfksd [~C@c-67-176-51-26.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:36 -!- strangewarp [~C@c-67-176-51-26.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 23:36 -!- ksjdhfksjdhfksd is now known as strangewarp 23:39 -!- randalla1ordon [~randall@71-38-132-174.ptld.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:42 -!- Sanky_ [~SankyZNC@unaffiliated/sanky] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:43 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: rigel, randallagordon, delinquentme, Sanky 23:44 -!- speedwagon [~Markus@p57A81179.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 23:44 -!- rigel_ [~pi@c-76-105-237-98.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:44 -!- speedwagon [~Markus@p57A81179.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:44 -!- ParahSail1n [~parahsail@99-25-202-211.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:44 -!- ParahSail1n [~parahsail@99-25-202-211.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 23:44 -!- ParahSail1n [~parahsail@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:45 -!- rigel_ is now known as rigel 23:48 -!- ParaSa1lin [~parahsail@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:50 -!- Netsplit over, joins: delinquentme 23:55 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:58 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Sun Jul 07 00:00:18 2013