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02:15 < juri_> Eric: fun.
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04:01 <@fenn> still unclear on exactly what Rev-erb does, any ideas? http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/17/exercise-in-a-pill-the-search-continues/ http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nm.3213.html
04:02 <@fenn> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nm.3213.html
04:02 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnm.3213
04:05 <@fenn> i liked the old paperbot that actually got the document for me
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07:42 <@kanzure> fenn: what would you prefer specifically?
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08:11 < ParahSail1n> old paperbot did not get nature.com so theres that
08:13 < ParahSail1n> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1038%2Fnm.3213
08:13 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e67c19d754fdfa76ea0777cb3d1ec7f1.txt
08:14 < ParahSail1n> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1038%2Fnm.3213
08:14 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a80db069720d9af9e1b1b7d69a51afe3.txt
08:15 <@kanzure> old paperbot always got nature (mostly..)
08:15 <@kanzure> emachineshop ceo (jim lewis) is now following FakeEliezer on twitter. i thought that was interesting.
08:15 <@kanzure> oh shit. i guess i haven't revealed that i'm FakeEliezer before.
08:16 < ParahSail1n> thats an odd novelty account
08:16 <@kanzure> :(
08:16 < gradstudentbot> You know, I hear you make more money being a garbage man.
08:17 < ParahSail1n> pretty convincing actually
08:19 < ParahSail1n> at least EY is a pretty good fiction writer
08:19 <@kanzure> pony magic fanfic? no thanks.
08:19 < ParahSail1n> thats about all the praise i could give him
08:19 < ParahSail1n> no ponies in hpmor
08:25 <@kanzure> ParahSail1n: what's stopping us from doing that paper stuff
08:25 <@kanzure> ParahSail1n: why haven't we done that ye t?
08:25 <@kanzure> *yet ?
08:26 < ParahSail1n> i was in chicago for the last three days
08:26 <@kanzure> what if we make it a membership thing, unlimited access for 0.10 btc/month?
08:27 < ParahSail1n> might be a good way to do it, people seem psychologically averse to micropayments for small goods and services
08:33 <@fenn> the libgen url is blank; it stops loading at the <body> tag
08:34 <@kanzure> fenn: could you maybe fix paperbot? it also needs some maintenance work done to separate the phenny parts from the actual paperbot parts. and then a lot of code needs to be deleted.
08:35 <@fenn> i'm not promising anything, but i'll poke at it
08:35 <@kanzure> also feel free to make angry remarks disguised as code review
08:36 <@fenn> rawr this code is too elegant
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08:39  * fenn sleeps
08:39 <@kanzure> elegant is not the word i would use
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08:45 <@kanzure> .title http://www.saurik.com/id/17
08:45 < yoleaux> Exploit (& Fix) Android "Master Key" - Jay Freeman (saurik)
08:48 <@kanzure> hilarious "If you thereby take an existing APK file and add a new entry to the zip file for "classes.dex" that comes before the one that is already in the APK, it will continue to verify correctly (as the second instance of the entry will be used by the verifier) but the modified file will be loaded by the VM (as it comes first)."
08:53 <@kanzure> saurik: i dunno if you care but for the android binary xml format you might find this useful, https://github.com/kanzure/axmlparserpy
08:54 <@kanzure> i haven't really investigated how breakable this format is
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08:58 < jonathan_> cant believe I didnt start listening to Otep sooner
09:03 <@kanzure> i can't tell if you are being sarcastic
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09:06 <@kanzure> yashgaroth: sup
09:06 < yashgaroth> same old
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09:46 < heath> http://www.nature.com/polopoly_fs/7.3528.1332512425!/image/HI-RES%20B2201377-Tongue_bacteria%2C_SEM-SPL.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_300/HI-RES%20B2201377-Tongue_bacteria%2C_SEM-SPL.jpg
09:46 < heath> "The genetic codes of microbes in the human body, such as these tongue bacteria (seen in a coloured scanning electron micrograph) could be the key to more accurate diagnosis."
09:47  * heath is wondering if this SEM or artistic interpretation
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09:47 < heath> SEM
09:47 < heath> by this guy: http://www.theworldcloseup.com/
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13:02 < nmz787> so the synthego guys said they're not even looking to make genes
13:02 < nmz787> only oligos cheaper
13:03 < nmz787> and that they generally are working on a mixed macro/micro fluid handling platform that will generalize to many lab protocols
13:03 < nmz787> and doing DNA for a way to make money initially
13:04 < nmz787> said $1 billion oligo market, $0.1 billion gene market
13:04 < nmz787> but i didn't figure out if they have any secret sauce, or if they're just making microfluidic DNA synthesis a commercial thing
13:05 < nmz787> i also don't know if they plan to sell oligos, or the machine that makes them
13:05 < gradstudentbot> No no no no! Use your key commands!
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13:18 < rigel> holy fuck is canonical ever shitting the bed with this forum issue
13:18 < rigel> yes, ok, notify everyone of the breach, that's fine, but people still rely on those forums to solve problems, problems that do not go away just because your website security was shit
13:21 < nmz787> rigel: what happened?
13:21 < nmz787> ubuntu answers have been deleted?
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13:21 < rigel> nmz787: canonical took the whole ubuntuforums site down to put up a "breach, change ur password" page
13:23 < chris_99> does anyone know how they create the photomask for modern chips?
13:24 < chris_99> like do they use a laser?
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13:34 < nmz787> chris_99: electron beam ablation
13:34 < nmz787> or laser
13:34 < nmz787> called stereolithography
13:34 < nmz787> but e-beam is way finer res
13:34 < chris_99> aha cheers, so both don't need a lens?
13:34 < nmz787> way smaller features
13:34 < chris_99> or i gues the laser does
13:35 < nmz787> you can use a lens to reduce it
13:35 < nmz787> the mask
13:35 < nmz787> mask reducer
13:35 < nmz787> or you can do contact lithography
13:35 < nmz787> where you place the mask almost touching the photoresist on your wafer
13:35 < chris_99> what do the electrons do re. the mask?
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13:58 < jrayhawk_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGFhc8R_uO4
13:58 < jrayhawk_> "Indistinguishable From Magic: Manufacturing Modern Computer Chips"
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14:08 < chris_99> thanks!
14:11 < nmz787> chris_99: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Scientific.American.Special.Edition.1997-12_Solid_State_Century.pdf
14:11 < nmz787> just pages 49-54 of the pdf (the article pages are 56-61, but the
14:11 < nmz787> computer will print using the other page numbers)
14:12 < nmz787> (well the whole mag is good, but that article is a great intro)
14:14 < kanzure> brownies: "It'd be nice if there was a machineable way to test UI in varying browsers. Litmus.com gets close, but it's only for emails, and "all" it does is render the emails in like 40 different clients (which is actually amazing)." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6079847
14:14 < kanzure> brownies: whoever did that is crazy
14:16 < gradstudentbot> I don't think my PI remembers me.
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17:10 < ParahSail1n> wow, 126.com allows 3 GB of attachments to emails
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18:03 < heath> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdKyf8fsH6w
18:03 < yoleaux> Ralph Merkle - An introduction to Molecular Nanotechnology - YouTube
18:03 < heath> Amanda Davis 1 year ago
18:03 < heath> I'M GOING TO MAJOR IN THIS!!! SUPER EXCITED :D
18:03 < heath> i wonder what college she's going to :)
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18:47 < yashgaroth_> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00232-013-9580-5
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18:47 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1007%2Fs00232-013-9580-5
18:50 < yashgaroth> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2Fs00232-013-9580-5.pdf
18:50 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/eee14f15f8adb3169ae849f914dcf.pdf
18:50 < yashgaroth> thanks paperbot
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19:10 < kanzure> i think that's another case of paperbot succeeding where libgen/scihub fails
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19:47 < abetusk> Does that Ralph Merkle video get any better?
19:49 < abetusk> ok, I can't stand it
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19:53 < kanzure> abetusk: :)
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20:47 < heath> spreelanka...
20:47 < heath> spreelanka!
20:47 < heath> in ##hplusroadmap, rearry?
20:47 < spreelanka> YEA
20:48 < kanzure> ?
20:48 < heath> ^5 sir
20:48 < heath> spreelanka = jacob hudson
20:48 < spreelanka> i'm just lurking or something
20:48 < heath> friend of mine
20:48 < spreelanka> fucking outed
20:48 < spreelanka> you are worse than the NSA heath
20:48 < spreelanka> :-p
20:48  * heath sleeps
20:49 < kanzure> i think technically i'm the one that carries that particular distinction
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