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05:27 < chris_99> could anyone explain why H-bombs require a fission detonator
05:27 < chris_99> is there any other way they can be detonated
05:28 < ThomasEgi> well you need to start the fusion.
05:30 < nalkri> Because the kind of overpressure needed to start a fusion chain reaction is very hard to produce, and the best non-H-bomb pressure generators we have are fission bombs
05:31 < chris_99> oh i just found this on wikipedia:
05:31 < chris_99> "It has been claimed that it is possible to conceive of a crude, deliverable, pure fusion weapon, using only current day, unclassified technology. The weapon design[1] weighs approximately 3 tonnes, and might have a total yield of approximately 3 tonnes of TNT. The proposed design uses a large explosively pumped flux compression generator to produce the high power density required to ignite the fusion fuel."
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05:32 < chris_99> (i actually thought i'd asked this in ##physics, so appologies if this is a bit off-topic)
05:32 < ThomasEgi> any particular why you wand to end a bunch of emo-proton-parties and fuse them into something heavielr?
05:33 < ThomasEgi> +*reason
05:33 < chris_99> heh, i was just curious why you needed fission, and if there was alternative mechanisms
05:34 < nalkri> Gravity works :þ
05:42 < ThomasEgi> hm.. requires a bit more than we have on earth^
05:42 < ThomasEgi> spinning things up using a centrifuge ;)
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09:36 < kanzure> ugh http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/42661/spam-events-appear-in-my-google-calendar
09:37 < ParahSailin> wow
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09:39 < kanzure> the recommended fix in the comments removed a bunch of real non-spam calendar events (stuff that actually impacts my scheduling)
09:39 < kanzure> this is a terrible calendar
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13:11 < nmz787> n_bentha: those qiagen buffers do in fact look legit, these are tested to work too http://wiki.biohackers.la/Miniprep
13:13 < ParahSailin> pretty sure i've used those
13:13 < ParahSailin> but its always the filters that you run out of first
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14:30 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature12511.html
14:30 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnature12511
14:30 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/
14:30 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d042a7f6c6e15934bdbb005fe278f5aa.txt
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14:46 < delinquentme> $ ls /dev/tty/   << the folders all labeled ttyX in here
14:46 < delinquentme> they're called what?
14:46 < delinquentme> semantically
14:49 < chris_99> devices
14:54 < saturn2> or virtual terminals
14:55 < ParahSailin> teletypes
14:55 < ParahSailin> your computer has old fashioned typewriter drivers still
14:56 < ParahSailin> you should upgrade or something
14:56 < jrayhawk> haha
14:58 < delinquentme> ParahSailin, >=O
14:59 < nmz787> poppingtonic: you realize that nature article is open to  begin?
14:59 < nmz787> poppingtonic: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/pdf/nature12511.pdf
15:00 < jrayhawk> sometimes just finding download links is enough of a burden to make paperbot worthwhile
15:00 < jrayhawk> though not so much in this case, it might be useful as a generalized rule
15:02 < ParahSailin> jrayhawk: how so?
15:02 < nmz787> it's silly that paperbot didn't find the open pdf though
15:02 < ParahSailin> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1038%2Fnature12511
15:02 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag5/10.1038/nature12511.pdf
15:02 < jrayhawk> it didn't?
15:03 < nmz787> for me it's more of a pain to click through ezproxy bookmarklets, then have to click back a few times if that exproxy doesn't have access, to try another exproxy i have
15:03 < nmz787> and i have like 4 of them
15:03 < ParahSailin> here's a secret, i made patches for paperbot up until the point it became useful and usable to me
15:03 < nmz787> and the pages reload when i click back
15:03 < ParahSailin> how many ezproxies do you have?
15:03 < nmz787> 4
15:04 < nmz787> access to
15:04 < ParahSailin> how have you not volunteered this earlier
15:04 < nmz787> i have
15:04 < nmz787> kanzure said there isn't a good way to store my private creds
15:04 < nmz787> etc etc
15:04 < nmz787> or something
15:04 < ParahSailin> ok give them to me
15:04 < nmz787> doop de doo
15:05 < ParahSailin> now i dont have to deal with that kazakhstani shit
15:05 < nmz787> i would gladly run some node server that requests were directed to
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15:06 < nmz787> but before exchanging passwords and usernames I think i'd need to change some things around
15:06 < nmz787> a problem is that they're schools, and they might have financial info or something
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15:06 < ParahSailin> it will be easier to have the ezproxies so that i can test it interactively
15:06 < nmz787> I wonder if I could use prepaid debit cards and an assumed business name to register at these schools...
15:07 < ParahSailin> otherwise ill be asking you to run a script dozens of times in an hour
15:07 < gradstudentbot> Well, you can't guarantee that.
15:07 < nmz787> i have to leave actually, heading to an SBIR grant writing workshop thing
15:08 < poppingt`> Is there another resource for people who want to build meshnets? I just noticed /r/projectmeshnet went dark.
15:08 < poppingt`> No pun intended :P
15:08 < ParahSailin> buttman
15:09 < ParahSailin> er batman
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15:10 < ParahSailin> what would you guys do if you had access to a full sized cnc
15:13 < nalkri> Build another
15:13 < nalkri> duh
15:13 < jrayhawk> I do have access to a full sized CNC. Empirically, the answer is "be too lazy to do anything interesting with it"
15:13 < nalkri> Though a CNC can't build control elements
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15:14 < ParahSailin> jrayhawk: thats what i was afraid of
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15:29 < poppingtonic> I'm not currently near a CNC, but here's something I'd like to make. If you like you can make it yourself: https://www.refheap.com/18376
15:30 < ParahSailin> "a pair of orchid seeds" thats not how orchids work
15:31 < poppingtonic> what do you mean?
15:31 < ParahSailin> orchid seeds are tiny and have no internal energy store, and must either germinate on agar with adequate sugar or be lucky and germinate in the presence of friendly fungus
15:31 < poppingtonic> Ah, snap. I just realized my mistake.
15:32 < gradstudentbot> You don't happen to have any more virgin flies, do you?
15:32 < poppingtonic> Alright what if the core contained that?
15:36 < ParahSailin> would have to be pretty aseptic
15:37 < poppingtonic> http://www.howtodothings.com/home-and-garden/a3200-how-to-plant-orchids.html
15:37 < ParahSailin> people germinate orchid seeds en masse on plates so that the plants can be split into larger plates as they grow
15:38 < chris_99> don't they also use cuttings of orchids, and grow them from there
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15:39 < gradstudentbot> Who has the latest version of the paper?
15:39 < ParahSailin> yeah cuttings more efficient for propogation
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15:40 < poppingtonic> Orchids have aerial roots. They also need circulating water, otherwise they get root rot, so it should have a way for water to evaporate.
15:44 < ParahSailin> some orchids have aerial roots
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16:11 < delinquentme> HOW DO:   shell script w echo out for  $ dmesg | grep minicom
16:22 < ParaSa1lin> that was less coherent than your usual
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17:45 < panax> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/aiorobotics/zeus-the-worlds-first-all-in-one-3d-copy-machine
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19:16 < bkero> pricey
19:32 < kanzure> boop
19:35 < nmz787> bkero: cheaper than makerbot + their scanner
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20:15 < tomkinsc> Anyone know of good corpora of nouns, adjectives, and verbs (separate text files) that have been curated to remove expletives? Looking to generated beta codes for a webapp, and have the beta codes be combinations of real words, but words that are tame enough so as to not offend folks with kids.
20:23 < kanzure> wordnet
20:24 < ParaSa1lin> beta codes?
20:24 < ParaSa1lin> http://nltk.org/api/nltk.corpus.html
20:25 < ParaSa1lin> http://nltk.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/nltk_data/index.xml
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