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02:23 < anannie> paperbot: http://www.law.com/jsp/ca/PubArticleCA.jsp?id=900005370549&Affairs_of_State__Earth_to_Palo_Alto&slreturn=20130902052129
02:23 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/ec02cb4d76d8c198672d48e5a888409f.txt
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04:39 < chris_99> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=5380619
04:39 < paperbot> IndexError: list index out of range (file "/srv/ikiwiki/paperbot/modules/papers.py", line 89, in download)
04:39 < chris_99> poor paperbot :(
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09:05 <@kanzure> beep boop
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09:07 < eudoxia> beepity
09:10 < poppingtonic> boop
09:13 < eudoxia> kanzure, why not have gradstudentbot do you beeping
09:13 < gradstudentbot> Actually, I didn't do that part, it was already here when I joined the lab.
09:13 < eudoxia> so you can spend more time on coding
09:27 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1088/2041-8205/776/1/L14
09:28 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/6ab96ffe5c394d9ee8e1a2be9d34e46b.txt
09:28 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1088/2041-8205/
09:28 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/46c28289e194faad29617b004e978b8f.txt
09:28 < EnLilaSko> paperbot: http://ebm.sagepub.com/content/237/11/1241.long
09:29 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1258%2Febm.2012.012180
09:30 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://iopscience.iop.org/2041-8205/776/1/L14/pdf/2041-8205_776_1_L14.pdf
09:30 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1088%2F2041-8205%2F776%2F1%2FL14
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09:39 <@kanzure> eudoxia: i think i've maxed out on how many hours per day i can make myself write software
09:41 < eudoxia> i guessed
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11:29 <@kanzure> so apparently i know the dread pirate roberts https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6482992
11:30 <@kanzure> "Black Market Reloaded is where most of the SR users will go."
11:31 <@kanzure> http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/
11:34 < ParahSai1in> yeah
11:34 < ParahSai1in> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1nlb08/ross_ulbricht_was_sloppy_and_outted_himself/
11:34 <@kanzure> he's a friend of a guy i sued
11:34 < ParahSai1in> i know you hate reddit but relevant
11:35 < ParahSai1in> lol no vanity rsa key for that hidden service?
11:36 <@kanzure> such a shame that people are so incapable of maintaining anonymity
11:36 < chris_99> interesting link ParahSai1in!
11:36 < ParahSai1in> he made a lolphp error and leaked the database through a sql injection early on
11:37 <@kanzure> ugh
11:37 < chris_99> haha
11:37 <@kanzure> the scihub person is not doing much better
11:37 <@kanzure> i'm worried about how easy these pirates are to track via my uh, stalklog.
11:37 < ParahSai1in> shit-- "solicited murder by hire"
11:37 < ParahSai1in> s/by/for
11:38 < ParahSai1in> the scihub person is at least not subject to us jurisdiction
11:38 <@kanzure> so shouldn't all of those logs (1) not exist and (2) be encrypted and (3) have a key that is only memorized?
11:38 <@kanzure> if you're running a multi-billion dollar cartel i would think that deleting things would be important
11:38 < ParahSai1in> youd think that if silk road were a good income stream, hed expatriate
11:39 <@kanzure> i'd also like to point out how much manning screwed up
11:39 <@kanzure> the only person who has demonstrated a good ability to remain anonymous so far has been satoshi
11:39 < ParahSai1in> well yeah, she doxed herself to a rat
11:40 <@kanzure> i could *maybe* accept a dread pirate that gets outed by one stupid mistake. but multiple stupid mistakes, like keeping logs, is not okay.
11:41 < ParahSai1in> seizure of 26k btc, yeah... he should not have been in the country still
11:42 <@kanzure> maybe silk road grew too fast and he couldn't keep a lid on all of his anonymity-compromising actions
11:42 <@kanzure> e.g., at a certain growth rate, you're more likely to compromise your identity
11:43 < ParahSai1in> its also possible that these mistakes were not what got him caught
11:43 < ParahSai1in> but that it was that tor botnet operation by the nsa that got initial evidence, then they constructed parallel evidence
11:43 <@kanzure> sql injection vulnerabilities, using his real name anywhere, using php, fake identities with his real name on them, keeping logs, etc.
11:44 <@kanzure> maybe
11:45 <@kanzure> i thought it was already established that you shoul ssh/vpn from your local ip address to a remote server, from the remote server use tor to another server, and then mix this up for like 5 or 7 levels to different servers with different anonymous owners. the lag is killer but you shouldn't be acting quick anyway.
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11:46 <@kanzure> so even if they do trace you to one level, it shouldn't matter because the time it takes them to get all of the other levels is long enough for you to be doing something else
11:47 <@kanzure> (i suppose if you aren't notified of their activity (e.g. they are stealthy), and it takes them 8 months to trace through all of your hops, you're just straight up screwed. but realistically there's no way that they can work their way through all those foreign hosts that quickly..
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11:54 < delinquentme> anyone in here use thinkpads?
11:55 <@kanzure> yes?
11:55 < delinquentme> I need an outstanding reason to just " buy this one "
11:55 < delinquentme> kanzure, nedz new laptop, I think I want a new thinkpad
11:55 <@kanzure> outstanding reason is 32 GB RAM
11:55 < delinquentme> I like the tiny carbons ... b ut the screens are hella small
11:55 < delinquentme> thats pretty solid :D
11:56 <@kanzure> soon i will be adding a 1 TB ssd to my thinkpad w520 i think
11:56 < delinquentme> so you like your thinkpad?
11:56 <@kanzure> yes
11:56 < delinquentme> buy off newegg?  happen to have a model you'd recommend?
11:57 <@kanzure> i bought mine on ebay, i picked w520 because w530 has the stupid keyboard.
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12:00 < delinquentme> whats stupid about it?
12:00 < delinquentme> I guess I could just buy a thinkpad and most of them will be solid?
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12:06 <@kanzure> the w530 keyboard is very different from the original lenovo/ibm keyboards that thinkpad is famous for.
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12:31 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://prl.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v111/i13/e130505
12:31 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag5/10.1103/PhysRevLett.111.130505.pdf
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12:50 < jrayhawk> iirc the new x series has 1920x1080 in 12" form
12:50 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://physics.aps.org/featured-article-pdf/10.1103/PhysRevLett.111.130505
12:50 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag5/10.1103/PhysRevLett.111.130505.pdf
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12:54 < jrayhawk> which is still an annoyingly far cry from the 2048x1536 15" screens we had on the R50 a decade ago
12:58 < jrayhawk> highest-res screens available on lenovos: 2048x1536 in 2003, 1920x1200 in 2008, 1920x1080 in 2013. something is very wrong.
13:02 < ParahSailin> wow, only 4300 tor relay nodes in the network?
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13:04 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1300832110/
13:04 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e4ff0e57ddfe2b2feecfc64d8119f1a.txt
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14:18 < jfriedl_> paperbot, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0309174098001120
14:18 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag4/10.1016/S0309-1740%252898%252900112-0.pdf
14:18 < jfriedl_> thank you lady
14:20  * heath is _almost_ settled in
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18:38 <@kanzure> oh right, i keep forgetting about onion.to
18:51 <@kanzure> here's a dump of pgp keys from silk road vendors/users (not sure if this content has been edited) https://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?action=printpage;topic=174.0
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21:46 <@kanzure> "In an interesting work-around, Levison complied the next day by turning over the private SSL keys as an 11 page printout in 4-point type. The government, not unreasonably, called the printout “illegible.” “To make use of these keys, the FBI would have to manually input all 2,560 characters, and one incorrect keystroke in this laborious process would render the FBI collection system incapable of collecting decrypted data,” prosecutors ...
21:46 <@kanzure> ... wrote. The court ordered Levison to provide a more useful electronic copy."
22:00 < ParahSail1n> is this re lavabit?
22:06 <@kanzure> yes
22:07 <@kanzure> i guess this means the FBI doesn't have OCR.
22:07 <@kanzure> .. i'm not sure what i can do with this new information.
22:12 < ParahSail1n> heh obviously they can, but cheaper to just lead pipe it
22:14 <@kanzure> ParahSail1n: how far did you get with the python setup.py crap on windows? i was thinking of taking another look in a few minutes.
22:14 < ParahSail1n> stopped pretty much where i was
22:17 <@kanzure> ?
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23:32 < archels> the FBI never heard of OCR?
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