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[~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:53 < archels> these guys are capitalizing every instance of the word equation. so cute 03:53 < archels> "The HH model quantifies the process of spike generation with a set of four differential Equations (Trappenberg, 2010)" 03:58 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:02 -!- fireprfHydra [~fireprfHy@ool-44c01f50.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:02 -!- Dantespeaks [~Dantespea@184.175.46.205] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:03 -!- fireprfHydra_ [~fireprfHy@ool-44c01f50.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:03 -!- Dantespeaks [~Dantespea@184-175-46-205.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:08 -!- Dantespeaks [~Dantespea@184-175-46-205.cable.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:09 -!- Dantespeaks [~Dantespea@184-175-46-205.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:16 -!- 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about this http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/techinnovations/2005-04-06-sony-patent_x.htm 08:03 < chris_99> !title 08:03 < chris_99> .tile 08:03 < chris_99> .title 08:03 < yoleaux> Sony patents technique of beaming info into brain 08:04 < chris_99> "The U.S. patent, granted to Sony researcher Thomas Dawson, describes a technique for aiming ultrasonic pulses at specific areas of the brain to induce "sensory experiences" such as smells, sounds and images." 08:10 < chris_99> 'This spatial resolution is approximately five times better than other more conventional noninvasive brain stimulation methods like TMS.; 08:24 -!- Adillian [~Adillian@eduDEE2.kent.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:28 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:29 < kanzure> haha the patent office sucks 08:29 < kanzure> that's obviously the same patent as that dude from arizona 08:32 < chris_99> seen http://www.tylerlab.com/home ? 08:32 < kanzure> yes 08:33 < kanzure> see http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ultrasound/ 08:33 < chris_99> aha neat 08:33 < kanzure> there's also the tyler-specific subdirectory 08:34 < chris_99> would it be hard to DIY this, like do they use some special type of transducer 08:35 < kanzure> i had someone make a cost estimate 08:36 < kanzure> one of the papers said $100 in parts 08:36 < chris_99> oooh 08:36 < chris_99> i think i prefer the idea of this than getting zapped with electricity 08:37 < kanzure> "This isn't going to be $100 for an experiment in focused stimulation/cooking, it's going to be $100 in parts for enough to drive one ultrasound transducer. To drive an array such as annular rings that could focus through a rabbit skull might be 10 or twenty drivers. The power levels you want are maybe 10,000 x lower than the cavitation producing levels they used." 08:37 < kanzure> anyway i haven't independently confirmed that estimate 08:37 < chris_99> ah interesting 08:38 < kanzure> the other problem is figuring out a reasonable battery of tests to use when trying out brain stimulation 08:38 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/664a7fef7c56221148ab75759d29f431.pdf 08:38 < chris_99> yeah. Would you put the rings on a parabolic dish? 08:38 < kanzure> those results showed electrical stimulation for the most part, and the results are sorta interesting, but it's hard to get a good visual understanding of where in the brain people have been prodded. 08:39 < kanzure> supposedly there might be a way to stimulate the brain in certain areas that would prove interesting in a transhumanist way. for example, turning on/off auditory processing. 08:40 < chris_99> what would turning off auditory processing mean exactly, like you couldn't comprehend the speech, even though you could still hear it, or mean that you can't heard sounds at all 08:41 < kanzure> the "motor intentions" one is interesting. i didn't see that in my first pass of that document. 08:42 < kanzure> chris_99: i'm intentionally not specifying that. 08:42 < kanzure> chris_99: i don't really care 08:42 < chris_99> aha 08:42 < kanzure> chris_99: doing either of those things is interesting, but not particularly useful 08:42 < kanzure> "Unpleasant sensation of suffocation" uh.. 08:42 < chris_99> i'm suprised this could induce visual hallucinations 08:45 < kanzure> iirc there are many studies on visual hallucinations 08:45 < kanzure> the visual cortex is "right there" 08:45 < kanzure> no deep brain probing required 08:46 < chris_99> mm, i've heard of the ganzfeld effect, where you just use two ping pong balls 08:47 < chris_99> it just seems interesting how you can do it through ultrasound/tms etc though 08:47 < kanzure> i don't know why anyone wants to bother with tdcs given ultrasound. there's less people that have made rigs but that shouldn't be an acceptable reason. 08:48 < kanzure> one of the papers tested the ultrasound stimulation apparatus against a chunk of meat from a grocery store 08:48 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:48 < kanzure> applied stimulation 08:48 < kanzure> then sliced the meat and imaged the cuts (i forget the right word) 08:48 < kanzure> not cuts but abberations? aversions? abortions? 08:49 < chris_99> hmm not sure 08:49 < kanzure> abrasion 08:50 < chris_99> so it left a mark in the middle of it? 08:50 < kanzure> yes.. considering that this was used to evaporate tumors, i think that's reasonable to expect. 08:50 < kanzure> low power systems have been used for neuron stimulation, though. 08:51 < chris_99> ah so they where using a lot higher power then i guese 08:51 < chris_99> *guess 08:52 < chris_99> so you could potentially seriously mess up your brain if you used the wrong power i assume 08:53 < kanzure> same with dc 08:54 < chris_99> true 10:03 -!- Dantespeaks [~Dantespea@184-175-46-205.cable.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:04 -!- Dantespeaks [~Dantespea@184-175-46-205.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:10 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:11 -!- klafka 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##hplusroadmap 20:40 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:50 -!- Souljack [~Souljack@host86-159-156-43.range86-159.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:52 -!- plur [~barriers@198.48.2.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:29 < nmz787> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/BF02797469 21:29 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e479bd27e9052dbf68f8ca95f1fa4d13.txt 21:34 -!- Dantespeaks [~Dantespea@184-175-46-205.cable.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:35 -!- Dantespeaks [~Dantespea@184.175.46.205] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:41 < nmz787> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/BF01870816 21:41 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/bbaba34357ab39d2bb98f20be8ac31cb.txt 21:51 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Quit: Ciao a tutti!] 22:19 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:44 -!- oblique 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http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/news/story/index.cfm?id=3956 23:59 < nmz787> justanotheruser: i think there are some pay-sites that have that --- Log closed Fri Oct 18 00:00:58 2013