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http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Scitation%3A%20A%20Comparison%20Between%20a%20GeigerMueller%20Counter%2C%20a%20Secondary%20Electron%20Multiplier%20Tube%2C%20and%20Photographic%20Film%20for%20Detecting%20Weak%20XRays.txt 16:13 <@nmz787> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1063/1.1769805 16:13 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/5d6c3d0ca6775c84ea24e85129ab2321.txt 16:13 <@nmz787> kanzure_: paperbot is borked 16:15 < pan4x> http://scitation.aip.org/docserver/fulltext/aip/journal/rsi/12/12/1.1769805.pdf?expires=1383784187&id=id&accname=478495&checksum=BBF3B9D2A952825FA0EE7721B531AEBD 16:18 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:22 < kanzure_> nmz787: yes we know it's broken 16:22 < kanzure_> nmz787: https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/issues 16:34 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@rrcs-50-84-151-134.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:37 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed 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metaphors and make them real, e.g. flying pigs 17:07 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:07 < mporter> in this vein, i would like to report progress in literally realizing another conception previously confined to the fantastic, 'monkeys flying out of someone's butt' 17:08 < mporter> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=precision-gene-editing-paves-way-for-transgenic-monkeys tells us that we can now get to work on designing flying monkeys 17:08 < yashgaroth> I'm working on a six-assed monkey myself, perhaps we can combine efforts 17:08 < yashgaroth> up to four asses so far but it's promising 17:08 < mporter> well. i was going to say that the appropriate paradigm, for realizing emergence of monkeys from a butt, is male pregnancy 17:08 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.175] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:08 < kanzure_> my uncle is a six-assed monkey, perhaps we can make an arrangement 17:09 < yashgaroth> I'm gonna need a sample from him, how you get it is up to you 17:09 < mporter> a section of the sigmoid colon wall can be converted to uterine tissue, and the flying monkey zygotes can grow there 17:09 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.216.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:09 < kanzure_> i don't really understand why you would want to do that 17:10 < kanzure_> if you want to convert your cells into something that can turn into zygotes or whatever, that's cool 17:10 < kanzure_> but you might as well implant them in a female uterus somewhere 17:10 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@117.254.216.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:10 < mporter> this is conceptual bio-art, my friend. you don't actually do it, you just blow your mind with the fact that you COULD do it 17:10 < kanzure_> sorry, but my mind is a fortress and this does not blow it away, fuck off 17:10 < mporter> clearly this lifecycle could be combined with the six-assed monkey 17:11 < mporter> a butt-gestating six-assed flying monkey 17:11 < mporter> that is today's discovery 17:11 < ThomasEgi> blowing minds with concepts?. that's like designing brigdes to gap canyons and then never build them. or in short. no good unless you want attention. 17:11 < kanzure_> yashgaroth: what have you been doing for work things? 17:11 < yashgaroth> work things? 17:12 < kanzure_> yashgaroth: just curious. are you still ferretting samples around for hplc all day? 17:12 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.221.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:12 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ is now known as kuldeepdhaka 17:12 < yashgaroth> psh naw that's only like 15% of my day, mostly I purify proteins and fill out paperwork 17:12 < kanzure_> sounds like an adventure, of sorts 17:12 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-54-238-94.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:13 < yashgaroth> it's a living...got a fully functioning plate washer that they tossed out because a pinch valve had sealed a tube shut 17:13 < yashgaroth> I literally massaged a tube and got a plate washer, enough stuff like that to keep me working there 17:14 < kanzure_> plate washer -> dish washing machine? or something more elaborate? 17:14 < yashgaroth> for 96-well plates, can suction and dispense liquids, for doing ELISAs and stuff 17:15 < yashgaroth> they're pretty useful if you don't want to spend half an hour pipetting and banging a plate against a paper towel 17:15 < chido> yashgaroth: how's the biohackerspace doing by the way? 17:16 < yashgaroth> there's a few companies inhabiting it, but I've no idea of the actual financials 17:16 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:16 < yashgaroth> jojack seems less worried than he did before, though that's also hard to gauge 17:17 < yashgaroth> I just wish we had more people like me to score 'broken' equipment and reagents from work 17:18 < chido> all we scored so far is some sort of ancient automatic blood coagulation analyzer 17:18 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19 -!- mporter [82669e18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.102.158.24] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:19 < yashgaroth> surely it has components you can salvage, though I'm not sure what goes into one of those 17:19 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:20 < kanzure_> chido: you should post teardowns 17:20 < kanzure_> chido: i would like to see what goes on deep inside those machines :) 17:21 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-54-238-94.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:22 < chido> yashgaroth: it should be able to automatically analyze a batch of samples by applying reagents via automatic pipette, so maybe if we can reverse-engineer it we could use it as a general lab bot 17:23 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:24 < yashgaroth> oh so it's like take a blood sample and add coagulants/anticoagulants to it and see what happens? what's the manufacturer/model #? 17:29 < chido> apparently it's a Sysmex CA540 Coagulation Analyzer 17:30 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@117.254.222.175] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:38 < juri_> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1145/2493432.2493486 17:38 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Instant%20inkjet%20circuits%3A%20lab-based%20inkjet%20printing%20to%20support%20rapid%20prototyping%20of%20UbiComp%20devices.pdf 17:38 < yashgaroth> well it has an absurdly long manual but I'm pretty sure you can do some interesting stuff with it 17:39 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.214.163] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:01 -!- justanotheruser1 [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:02 -!- n_bentha [~GuanYu@75.111.207.146] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:04 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.214.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:05 -!- justanotheruser1 [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has quit [Client Quit] 18:05 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:20 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:20 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:26 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:26 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.214.163] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:42 <@nmz787> juri_: that's brilliant! 18:44 -!- justanotheruser1 [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:45 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.222.175] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:46 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.214.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:47 < juri_> nmz787: its impressive. 18:49 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@117.254.222.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:50 -!- justanotheruser1 [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:16 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@rrcs-50-84-151-134.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Adifex] 19:18 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@74.45.126.29] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:24 -!- 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[~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:20 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:21 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:23 <@nmz787> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/978-3-540-85156-1_334 20:23 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/acd25e2abf9c0421ab0e20b0ac8b357d.txt 20:23 <@nmz787> can anyone get that for me? 20:45 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:b240:8200:eddd:2a1f:4099:ef66] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:51 < justanotheruser> nmz787: 20:52 < justanotheruser> you still there? 20:55 -!- fireprfHydra [~fireprfHy@pool-173-54-39-52.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:00 < entelechios> paperbot: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24136970 21:00 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscience.1241224 21:01 < entelechios> The conservation of sleep across all animal species suggests that sleep serves a vital function. We here report that sleep has a critical function in ensuring metabolic homeostasis. Using real-time assessments of tetramethylammonium diffusion and two-photon imaging in live mice, we show that natural sleep or anesthesia are associated with a 60% increase in the interstitial space, resulting in a striking increase in convective exchange of ... 21:01 < entelechios> ... cerebrospinal fluid with interstitial fluid. In turn, convective fluxes of interstitial fluid increased the rate of β-amyloid clearance during sleep. Thus, the restorative function of sleep may be a consequence of the enhanced removal of potentially neurotoxic waste products that accumulate in the awake central nervous system. 21:03 < entelechios> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11290881 21:09 < n_bentha> dod someone say marijuana? 21:09 < entelechios> drugs are illegal 21:10 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@117.254.221.21] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:14 <@nmz787> justanotheruser: here 21:14 < justanotheruser> nmz787: do you still need that pdf? 21:15 <@nmz787> yes 21:15 < justanotheruser> nmz787: I am attempting to send you the file. Do you see it? 21:15 <@nmz787> hmm, no 21:15 < justanotheruser> Now? 21:15 <@nmz787> I don't know how to accept 21:16 < justanotheruser> what client are you using? 21:16 <@nmz787> irssi 21:16 <@nmz787> just tried slash dcc get [yourname] 21:17 <@nmz787> oh 21:17 <@nmz787> try now 21:18 < justanotheruser> See it nmz787? 21:19 <@nmz787> i think you need to not send any text messages 21:20 <@nmz787> it tells me no file offered by you 21:20 < justanotheruser> nmz787: http://www.filedropper.com/chp3a1010072f978-3-540-85156-1334 21:20 < justanotheruser> I'm a student, so if anyone needs a paper paperbot can't get feel free to highlight me. 21:21 <@nmz787> thanks 21:21 < justanotheruser> np 21:21 <@nmz787> same for me 21:21 < justanotheruser> Does your school not have a springer subscription? 21:23 -!- n_bentha [~GuanYu@75.111.207.146] has quit [Quit: до свидания] 21:23 < kanzure_> springer provides many different subscriptions and often their packages exclude half their journals 21:25 < justanotheruser> oh, I see 21:31 < kanzure_> this site is claiming i can buy lab reagents with bitcoins, http://www.rechemco.net/ 21:32 < kanzure_> "RECHEMCO has an experienced team of chemists with a depth of knowledge and experience in complex organic syntheses including prostaglandins, leukotrienes, cannabinoids, fatty acids, heterocyclic chemistry, and pheromones. Our sales staff and chemists will quickly respond to your custom synthesis inquiries with competitive pricing and aggressive lead times. " 21:33 < kanzure_> hah they have an affiliate program. 21:33 < justanotheruser> kanzure_: They're going to charge you for the conversion to USD too. Whatever they sell you in bitcoins is going to be 5%-10% more than it would be. 21:34 < kanzure_> so? 21:34 < entelechios> i don't trust anyone who takes a name that's similar to reputed sources for such things 21:34 < entelechios> and runs with it 21:34 < entelechios> sketchy sketchcore 21:34 < justanotheruser> kanzure_: so if you want to buy reagents cheaply, then they might not be your best option. 21:35 < entelechios> these are chemicals we're talking about not cheap chinese toy knockoffs like 'axion man' or 'loogo' 21:35 < entelechios> http://rechem.ca is who they're trying to pretend to be 21:37 < kanzure_> justanotheruser: i don't care if it's cheap or not (although i do care about my per reaction costs, often) 21:38 < justanotheruser> kanzure_: Well if you don't care about price then I guess it doesn't matter, but if there is another company who can offer the same for less I would go with them personally. 21:39 < entelechios> i care about what it looks like after being assayed 21:39 < entelechios> people do like to fuck around with these things 21:39 < entelechios> it's highly profitable 21:41 < justanotheruser> Do you guys know who Dave Aspray is? 21:41 < justanotheruser> *Asprey 21:42 < entelechios> hel 21:42 < entelechios> he's incarcerated** 21:42 < justanotheruser> Really? 21:42 < entelechios> he went to jail for murdering his wife 21:42 < justanotheruser> WHAT? 21:42 < entelechios> you didn't hear bout this yet? 21:42 < entelechios> google it 21:42 < justanotheruser> no, I'm just watching one of his videos now 21:42 < entelechios> hahahaha okay i'm fucking with you. 21:42 < justanotheruser> He seems pseudoscientific 21:42 < entelechios> he seems like some cheesy motivational speaker who might murder his wife 21:43 < entelechios> meh 21:43 < justanotheruser> Hes recommending 1 stick of butter every day 21:43 < entelechios> ahahaha. master troll. 21:43 < entelechios> the best part is, people will believe him 22:26 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.136.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:26 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@utdpat241140.utdallas.edu] has quit [Quit: Adifex] 22:27 -!- klafka_ [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:33 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-24-6-18-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:44 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:05 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.214.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:26 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@74.45.126.29] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:39 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@pool-173-74-73-156.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:48 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@117.254.221.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] --- Log closed Thu Nov 07 00:00:17 2013