--- Log opened Wed Dec 04 00:00:43 2013
00:40 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-67-176-51-230.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:41 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-67-176-51-230.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
00:41 < Dantespeaks> kanzure, you have roughly 400,000 USD dollars!
00:43 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
00:46 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap
00:46 < Dantespeaks> how do you "extort" litecoin?
00:46 < Dantespeaks> did you mine all this?
00:54 -!- rkos [~rkos@net-93-147-134-234.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:07 -!- ybit_ [~ybit@heath.io] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:07 -!- sivoais_ [~zaki@199.19.225.239] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:11 -!- AshleyPotato [anastasiaw@unaffiliated/anastasiawyatt] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:12 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: sivoais, AshleyWaffle, ybit, juul, ParahSailin, rk[imposter]
01:12 -!- AshleyPotato is now known as AshleyWaffle
01:17 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
01:19 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap
01:19 -!- Netsplit over, joins: juul
01:20 -!- kyknos [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
01:50 -!- rkos [~rkos@net-93-147-134-234.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
02:07 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap
02:11 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.218.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap
02:19 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.139.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
02:46 -!- monkeynipples [monkeynipp@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-nwggkbojtdxopilq] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
02:51 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
02:52 -!- monkeynipples [monkeynipp@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-xivnuygrbjepowuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap
02:52 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap
03:00 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer]
03:14 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap
03:30 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.218.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
03:46 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap
03:46 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has quit [Changing host]
03:46 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:04 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:13 -!- Qfwfq|aw1y is now known as Qfwfq
04:15 < Dantespeaks> I need money sigh...
04:15 < Dantespeaks> Anyone know how to make some money without having to wash dishes let me know please.
04:15 < Dantespeaks> I'd like some security in order to study.
04:15 < blueskin> prostitution?
04:16  * blueskin runs
04:16 < Dantespeaks> not good looking enough.
04:16 < blueskin> /r/slavelabour
04:16 < blueskin> mostly people offering services, but sometimes people hire too
04:16 < Dantespeaks> need time to study. prefer something home based....
04:16 < blueskin> yeah, most stuff on slavelabour is
04:17 < blueskin> from web design to "do my homework for me"
04:17 < Dantespeaks> you guys are luck you're in USA. you can apply for the mechanical turk amazon program.
04:17 < Dantespeaks> Canadians are rejected.
04:17  * blueskin isn't murican
04:17 < Dantespeaks> i can't do that stuff im not so interested.
04:17 < Dantespeaks> sigh whatever
04:18 < Dantespeaks> how did kanzure get so many litecoins.
04:19 < Dantespeaks> kanzure, if you don't need to cash these litecoins out, are you a multi-millionaire?
04:19 < Dantespeaks> how much you got?
04:46 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap
04:56 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-10-149.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap
05:01 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap
05:28 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.218.213] has joined ##hplusroadmap
05:29 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-10-149.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
06:13 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
06:16 -!- BlueMint [~BlueMint@c58-107-240-32.mirnd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
06:22 -!- BlueMint [~BlueMint@c58-107-240-32.mirnd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap
06:23 -!- Gwyxx [~Gwyxx@173.193.108.242-static.reverse.softlayer.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
06:24 -!- Gwyxx is now known as SL-RHanson
07:05 -!- BlueMint [~BlueMint@c58-107-240-32.mirnd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
07:10 -!- BlueMint [~BlueMint@c58-107-240-32.mirnd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap
07:44 -!- sivoais_ is now known as sivoais
07:44 -!- sivoais [~zaki@199.19.225.239] has quit [Changing host]
07:44 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap
07:54 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.139.70] has joined ##hplusroadmap
07:55 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.221.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
07:58 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
08:00 -!- pads [~not@100.43.114.90] has joined ##hplusroadmap
08:00 -!- pads is now known as Guest6901
08:01 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
08:02 -!- Guest16991 [~not@100.43.114.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
08:10 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@50.121.14.135] has joined ##hplusroadmap
08:16 -!- aelinoea [~aelinoea@a88-113-45-152.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap
08:27 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@50.121.14.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
08:28 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@117.254.218.213] has joined ##hplusroadmap
08:28 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.214.163] has joined ##hplusroadmap
08:28 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
08:33 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.214.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
08:38 < kanzure> JayDugger: hi
08:56 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
09:03 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:15 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:16 < juri_> hio!
09:26 -!- rkos [~rkos@net-93-147-134-234.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:30 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:30 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:35 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
09:39 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-10-149.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:39 < eudoxia> kanz why do you want to get rid of your coins so much
09:40 < eudoxia> are the feds after you for economic terrorism
09:42 < Dantespeaks> is there a way i can get your coins kanzure
09:42 < Dantespeaks> i'll do anything!
09:42 < juri_> And so it begins.. </kosh>
09:44 < kanzure> juri_: i'm an idiot sometimes
09:44 < kanzure> eudoxia: there's some non-zero benefit to having others involved
09:44 < juri_> we're all idiots, most of the time. :)
09:44 < kanzure> Dantespeaks: give me an address
09:47 < Dantespeaks> really? i'll  make an wallet right now
09:49 < eudoxia> i wonder if someone has made something like that brainwallet thing for litecoins/other coins
09:50 < eudoxia> i could google it i guess
09:50 < kanzure> https://liteaddress.org/ click 'brain wallet'
09:51 -!- soylentbomb [~k@d47-69-156-180.nap.wideopenwest.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:51 -!- soylentbomb [~k@d47-69-156-180.nap.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Changing host]
09:51 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:53 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-89-243-38-116.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
09:54 < Dantespeaks> ok
09:54 < Dantespeaks> doing it.
09:54 < Dantespeaks> i dont care if the coins will cause me problems, send me as much as you can
09:54 < Dantespeaks> hahah
09:54 < Dantespeaks> sick and tired of having no assets any way :(
09:56 < Dantespeaks> ok
09:56 < Dantespeaks> it's showing me litecoin address,
09:56 < Dantespeaks> and private key
09:56 < Dantespeaks> which shall i send you?
09:57 < eudoxia> pm him the address
09:57 < Dantespeaks> ok
09:57 < juri_> i concentrate more on making things possible with less resources. a good part of my last month has been spent evaluating different options for home construction of a vacuum chamber capable of diamond like carbon deposition on aluminium oxide.
09:58 < chris_99> whats the vac chamber gonna be made out of?
09:58 < chris_99> and what pump?
09:58 < eudoxia> are you going to try implementing the freitas process?
09:58 < eudoxia> pls say yes
09:58 -!- ielo is now known as jamila
10:00 < juri_> we've basically shifted from a steel laminate to a fused aluminium + viton + glass system.
10:00 < Dantespeaks> i did it kanzure
10:00 < kanzure> you sent me your private key
10:00 < Dantespeaks> oh what am i suppose to send you
10:01 < Dantespeaks> yup sent the litecoin address
10:01 < Dantespeaks> brb
10:01 < kanzure> that litecoin address is now useless because someone other than you knows its private key
10:01 < juri_> for CVD, we're going to use methane heated to a plasma by microwave.
10:02 < jamila> haha
10:02 < jamila> dante you're well funny
10:02 -!- jamila is now known as ielo
10:02 < juri_> we're a small group, but we discuss it for a couple of hours each day.
10:04 < juri_> right now, the core debate is whether to fuse aluminium by using a microwave + silicon carbide to form aluminium carbide, or just insist that people start with a big honkin block of aluminium. i want to join smaller pieces, but do not know about the joining process. afaict, no-one has tried it.
10:04 < Dantespeaks> oh ill make a new one
10:04 < Dantespeaks> sorry
10:05 < Dantespeaks> done
10:05 < kanzure> Dantespeaks: keep the private key safe forever
10:06 < Dantespeaks> ok ty i will
10:06 < chris_99> what kind of vacuum do you need for this juri_ in torr?
10:07 < juri_> 10^-4
10:08 < chris_99> do you need one of those turbo molecular pumps for that
10:08 < juri_> i don't know, honestly. i'm working with a group (hacDC), and we've inherited all kinds of pumps.
10:08 < chris_99> ah nice
10:09 < juri_> for all i know, we don't even have the pump we need. going through pumps is on my 'todo' list near the top.
10:09 < chris_99> i think you can even chain pumps or something iirc?
10:09 < juri_> now, i want to build one of these personally, so i'm going to have to just buy what i need.
10:09 < juri_> from what i've been reading, there's a two pump system for this.
10:10 < chris_99> aha
10:10 < juri_> i've watched all of the thin film stuff on youtube, that makes me an expert, right? ;)
10:11 < fredox> vacuum pumps are cheap as dirt
10:11 < chris_99> not ones that give high vacuums
10:11 < fredox> two stage is more than adequate for that
10:25 < Dantespeaks> umm how do i check my litecoin balance?
10:27 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap
10:28 < Dantespeaks> ill figure it out sorry thanks.
10:28 < juri_> does anyone here have experience in microwave assisted deposition, or microwave assisted metals fusion?
10:34 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-135-10-149.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
10:43 < kanzure> jrayhawk_: do you have some things for making torrents to suggest?
11:05 < fredox> juri_: no but i've done a bit with vacuum chambers if that is of use
11:07 < juri_> fredox: what've you done with them?
11:11 -!- aelinoea [~aelinoea@a88-113-45-152.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:21 < fredox> construction-wise i mean. i haven't done any deposition stuff.
11:34 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.139.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
11:34 < juri_> ah, neat. :D
11:39 < fredox> i want to work on some laser sintering stuff next year (money permitting)
11:39 < chris_99> nice fredox, what kind of wattage laser do you need for that?
11:42 < Dantespeaks> does the amount of litecoins you have affect the amount of blockchains/something more you need to download?
11:42 < Dantespeaks> ooops wrong channel
11:43 < Dantespeaks> i wish i had lots of litecoins
11:43 < Dantespeaks> or any coins :P
11:51 < juri_> hah. ;)
12:00 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has quit [Quit: leaving]
12:06 < fredox> chris_99: i think i can get away with a 20W fibre, but i'd like to get up to 200W
12:06 < chris_99> nice, would you use a CO2 laser for that
12:08 < fredox> nah the new green optic fibre lasers
12:08 < chris_99> green?
12:08 < fredox> 532nm iirc
12:09 < chris_99> why green?
12:09 < chris_99> don't you want IR for this?
12:10 < fredox> still absorbs well plus wavelength is 20x smaller
12:10 < chris_99> aha
12:10 < fredox> better resolution, less power required
12:11 < chris_99> how much does that set you back
12:11 < fredox> dunno, i emailed a company about it but they never got back to me
12:12 < fredox> they have price per metre of fibre, but not how much power it outputs
12:13 < chris_99> so you'd put the fibre on an XY bed you mean?
12:13 < fredox> yeah, or mirrors
12:14 < chris_99> mm
12:28 -!- ielo is now known as jamila
12:31 -!- entelechios [~elysium@190.184.196.50] has joined ##hplusroadmap
12:44 < jrayhawk_> mktorrent is pretty simple, but uses a dumb block size IIRC
12:46 < jrayhawk_> oh, it has an -l option now to fix that
12:46 < jrayhawk_> kanzure: -^
12:47 < kanzure> alright
12:47 < kanzure> thanks
12:47 < kanzure> turns out that youtube does not like you uploading 20 GB at a time
12:47 < jrayhawk_> keep in mind any tracker you upload it to will replace your announce URL with their own
12:48 < jrayhawk_> pansies
12:48 < kanzure> it is for something that is meant to be privately tracked
12:48 < jrayhawk_> ah
12:48 < jrayhawk_> i have zero experience running a tracker
13:02 -!- Dantespeaks [~Dantespea@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
13:20 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@74.45.126.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap
13:25 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@74.45.126.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
13:25 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.221.3] has joined ##hplusroadmap
13:52 -!- justanotheruser1 [~andrew@74.45.126.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap
13:52 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.221.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:56 -!- justanotheruser1 [~andrew@74.45.126.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
13:57 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.221.3] has joined ##hplusroadmap
14:11 -!- rkos [~rkos@net-93-147-134-234.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
14:19 -!- jamila [~ielo@host-89-243-38-116.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
14:31 -!- Dantespeaks [~Dantespea@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
14:42 -!- augur [~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:51 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has joined ##hplusroadmap
15:05 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:07 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
15:27 -!- kyknos [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:24 < justanotheruser> Dantespeaks: looking for money? You should have been here when kanzure was giving them out
16:24 < justanotheruser> *giving litecoins out
16:25 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@117.254.218.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
16:26 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.218.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
16:33 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:34 < Dantespeaks> oh
16:34 < Dantespeaks> how much did he give out?
16:34 < Dantespeaks> shucks
16:35 < Dantespeaks> i need 50,000...
16:35 < Dantespeaks> dollars at least...
16:40 < Dantespeaks> kanzure, give me 50k worth of bitcoins please :)
16:40 < Dantespeaks> oh i mean litecoins please.
16:42 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:43 < Dantespeaks> i thought i was the chosen one among many
16:43 < Dantespeaks> shucks
16:44 < Dantespeaks> i thought i was gonna get out of this poverty in one shot.
16:44 < Dantespeaks> wishful thinking!
16:45 < Dantespeaks> I hope my IBM T42 laptop will trigger your donations!
16:45 < Dantespeaks> amazing specs at 512mb of ram, 60gb hdd!
16:47 < ua> Dantespeaks, try libgen.org if you wanna out of poverty ;p
16:47 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o kanzure] by ChanServ
16:48 < Dantespeaks> what is it?
16:48 -!- Dantespeaks was kicked from ##hplusroadmap by kanzure [Dantespeaks]
16:48 < ua> lel
16:48 -!- Dantespeaks [~Dantespea@75-119-242-248.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
16:48 < Dantespeaks> ok i'll shut up please dont kick me out.
16:49 < Dantespeaks> im learning a lot from this channel. ty.
16:59 < Qfwfq> Snrk.
17:02 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has quit [Quit: leaving]
17:13 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@rrcs-50-84-151-134.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
17:15 -!- rigel [~yourmom@c-76-105-237-98.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
17:16 -!- rigel [~yourmom@c-76-105-237-98.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
17:25 < justanotheruser> Dantespeaks: He didn't give that out, the other output was presumably an address owned by him
17:26 < justanotheruser> s/that/$50k
17:27 < Dantespeaks> ok
17:27 < Dantespeaks> i wish i had 50k.
17:28 < Dantespeaks> then i would probably live in a different country anywhere but canada.
17:28 < justanotheruser> Dantespeaks: what ua said, libgen.org
17:28 < Dantespeaks> or maybe thats not enough :P
17:28 < Dantespeaks> what about it?
17:29 < Dantespeaks> it's a cool site with lots of scientific pdfs/books
17:29 < justanotheruser> learn
17:29 < Dantespeaks> yup education is the key
17:29 < Dantespeaks> do they have all the books i want in there though :)
17:29 < ua> Dantespeaks, also dont mix up education with knowing stuff
17:29 < ua> :P
17:30 < Dantespeaks> sure, surface level assumption and detail knowledge/education 2 different things.
17:30 < Dantespeaks> i can play a game, and talk about how it was created, don't mean i know the coding to make the character move from point A to B.
17:30 < Dantespeaks> alright....
17:31 < justanotheruser> Dantespeaks: if you want to make money learn to program.
17:31 < Dantespeaks> rather vague thing to say. to reach what market?
17:32 < justanotheruser> Dantespeaks: any
17:32 < justanotheruser> except independent app developmenr
17:32 < justanotheruser> *development
17:32 < Dantespeaks> dont you think uploading softwares to iphone or android apps is a good way to make sustainable income?
17:33 < justanotheruser> Dantespeaks: most app developers don't make money. It is incredibly saturated
17:33 < Dantespeaks> ok, then learning a programming language in conjunction with what topic = money?
17:34 < justanotheruser> Dantespeaks: Don't learn a language, learn to program
17:34 < Dantespeaks> must have a purpose aye?
17:34 < Dantespeaks> i mean if i want to program electronics in order to say, make a toy be able to move in a certain motion, patent the toy and commercialize it = money.
17:35 < justanotheruser> Not sure what you mean by topic. If you can write point of sale software, you could probably learn in a few weeks how to write a messaging client even though they ware mostly unrelated
17:35 < Dantespeaks> learning how to program, sure, but if i dont see the end goal, seems kinda vague thing to be on pursuit.
17:35 < ua> Dantespeaks, right just like learning to read
17:36 < Dantespeaks> by topic, genre, or niche, or type, where exactly would i use the programming on, to be on the purpose of what is the question before learning.
17:36 < justanotheruser> Dantespeaks: You could invent something, you have to have a feasible idea though. I was speaking of working for someone else which is what most programmers do
17:36 < Dantespeaks> ask not, what your brain is missing, rather ask, what your brain is searching.
17:37 < Dantespeaks> i see, now thats more accurate guideline...
17:37 < justanotheruser> Dantespeaks: I'm a Computer Science student. Almost all jobs for CS aren't from software companies. State Farm, Boeing, GM, etc need programmers
17:37 < Dantespeaks> yes.... feasible idea on something, following programming...
17:37 < Dantespeaks> oh, you mean to learn a programming language to be hired?
17:38 < justanotheruser> If you want to make money
17:38 < justanotheruser> also learning a programming language wont get you hired.
17:38 < Dantespeaks> certificate?
17:38 < justanotheruser> Learning to program will
17:38 < Dantespeaks> i get it.
17:38 < Dantespeaks> ok
17:38 < Dantespeaks> cool advice man, thanks.
17:39 < justanotheruser> A programming language is just syntax. You have to implement algorithms
17:39 < justanotheruser> and create algorithms
17:39 < Dantespeaks> now i just need to get out of welfare and ill be alright.
17:39 < justanotheruser> try codeacademy if you're actually interested. It's a good start
17:39 < Dantespeaks> llol
17:39 <@kanzure> that's a total lie, have you seen their bullshit?
17:39 < justanotheruser> kanzure: code academy?
17:39 <@kanzure> udacity too. their students can't distinguish print from return.
17:40 < Dantespeaks> torrent network certainly had both libraries. codeacademy and udacity.
17:40 < justanotheruser> kanzure: It's a start. Learn syntax then read C from knuth and an algorithms book
17:40 < Dantespeaks> i'll go with a higher level language like python.
17:41 < Dantespeaks> i wouldn't get C even if i tried right now.
17:41 <@kanzure> yawn, please leave with the self-defeatist crap
17:41 <@kanzure> it is tiring and uninteresting
17:41 < Dantespeaks> fine, i'll understand everything and devour the world with it.
17:41 < Dantespeaks> there, thats my true face.
17:42 < Dantespeaks> i just need a start.
17:42 <@kanzure> i don't care, get lost
17:42 < Qfwfq> Good luck, Dantespeaks
17:42 < justanotheruser> Damn kanzure did this guy do something to upset you?
17:42 < Dantespeaks> ...take a joke kanzure. i didnt say anything to neither interest or upset you.
17:42 <@kanzure> i didn't say i am upset, fuck you
17:42 <@kanzure> the both of you need to learn to read
17:43 < justanotheruser> I didn't say you were upset, that's why I asked
17:43 <@kanzure> i am not
17:43 < Dantespeaks> your display of hostility suggests emotion nevertheless on something that dont need to be addressed in that manner.
17:43 < Dantespeaks> so it's your irrationality buddy :P
17:44 <@kanzure> if you think i'm being hostile then you really need to read what i've said again. i've only asked you to leave.
17:44 < Dantespeaks> im not gonna pry on this. sorry if i triggered something in you to say that.
17:45 < Dantespeaks> self-defeatist attitude however, no. more like keeping myself grounded as a beginner.
17:46 < Dantespeaks> either way, im not really interested in learning any programming at the moment. but ty for your suggestion, justanotheruser.
17:46 < Dantespeaks> i'll focus on chemistry. i think it's important i need to learn it.
17:47 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o fenn] by kanzure
17:47 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o nmz787] by kanzure
17:48 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o ybit_] by kanzure
17:48 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o archels] by kanzure
17:49 < Dantespeaks> how much litecoin have you sent out kanzure?
17:49 < Dantespeaks> itty bitty bit or lot?
17:50 < Dantespeaks> send me more if you're willing. :P
17:50 < jrayhawk_> you sure know how to endear yourself to a guy who's telling you to go away
17:50 < Dantespeaks> wonderful way of socializing isn't it?
17:51 < justanotheruser> jrayhawk_: lol
17:52 <@kanzure> this is not acceptable behavior http://pastebin.com/1w1rbY92
17:53 < justanotheruser> WOW
17:56 < Dantespeaks> what does it say
17:56 < Dantespeaks> i wish i can click on it
17:56 < Dantespeaks> pc is too slow to open a browser
17:56 < justanotheruser> Dantespeaks: It's the PMs you sent him
17:56 < Dantespeaks> oh
17:56 < Dantespeaks> hahaha
17:56 < Dantespeaks> Send me everything!
17:57 < Dantespeaks> i'll tell you a trick :P
17:57 < ua> comment spamming should be punishable by death, thats for sure :>
17:57 < Dantespeaks> nah, i think it's more along the lines of a grey-hat type of thing
17:57 < Dantespeaks> depends on the laws of the server/country.
17:58 < Dantespeaks> i would like to question how people get so much litecoins in short period of time.
17:58 < Dantespeaks> litecoins specially written for CPU usage rather than GPU, then was botnet involved in stealing people's CPU time?
17:59 < Dantespeaks> uploading torrents perhaps?
17:59 < Dantespeaks> Kanzure, please lighten up. :P
17:59 < cluckj> lol
17:59 < cluckj> shut up
17:59 < cluckj> thx
18:01 < Dantespeaks> i wish i could be used as a scapegoat but get rich anyway :P
18:04 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-54-221-26.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:05 < eudoxia> ugh can we just go back to talking about transhumanism
18:05 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.221.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
18:05 < eudoxia> or making fun of people who read h+ mag
18:07 <@kanzure> what is your mnt git repo thing?
18:07 <@kanzure> and who is fernando what happened to alex
18:08 < eudoxia> dude i revealed my ~real identity~ like years ago
18:08 < eudoxia> and you call yourself an internet stalker
18:08 <@kanzure> i don't actually i think that's what everyone else might be saying
18:08 < eudoxia> also the MNT repo is a bunch of stuff I did with nanoengineer
18:08 <@kanzure> i'll still call you alex anyway just to fuck with you
18:09 <@kanzure> borretti sounds fake btw
18:09 < eudoxia> it's basically just drawings though because i didn't have the computing power to simulate it
18:09 < eudoxia> and most would explode except at a carefully chosen temperature range
18:09 < eudoxia> (or rigged GROMACS settings)
18:09 <@kanzure> does nanohive do explosions/vibrations correctly
18:10 <@kanzure> do they happen?
18:10 < eudoxia> what did nanohive use at the business end anyways? NanoDynamics-1 or something else?
18:10 <@kanzure> there was a gromacs option but that might have been after nanorex acquired nanohive
18:12 < eudoxia> i know nanodynamics does explosions because sometimes things would just explode on me
18:12 < eudoxia> like, small diamond cubes and such, some random hydrogens would just pop off
18:15 < Dantespeaks> ...you win kanzure...
18:15 < Dantespeaks> i just read the pastebin :P yeah it's inappropriate. but im just speculating how you got hold of so much coins.
18:16 < eudoxia> are you with the IRS
18:16 < Dantespeaks> I wish.
18:17 < Dantespeaks> how did you do it man? share with us some secrets. enlighten us.
18:18 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-54-221-26.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:20 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:21 -!- Qfwfq [~Qfwfq@unaffiliated/washirving] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
18:25 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:29 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
18:32 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:b240:8200:94fc:ac05:3081:bde5] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:37 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.221.3] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:44 -!- fredox_ [~chatzilla@c27-253-22-47.brodm4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap
18:44 -!- fredox [~chatzilla@c27-253-22-47.brodm4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]
18:45 -!- fredox_ is now known as fredox
19:00 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@rrcs-50-84-151-134.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete]
19:17 <@kanzure> http://lifeboat.com/blog/2013/04/bitcoins-dystopian-future
19:18 < cluckj> convert to dollars; buy a boat
19:20 <@kanzure> boats still don't have very good internet access
19:20 <@kanzure> i'm not aware of even expensive options for maritime isps
19:21 < cluckj> satellite?
19:21 <@kanzure> i have never experienced good satellite internet connections :(
19:21 <@kanzure> truly i am missing out on life
19:22 < cluckj> me neither
19:22 < cluckj> :<
19:25 < justanotheruser> By the time Bitcoin is a concern of the government, there will be enough bitcoin billionaires to lobby and bribe for it
19:26 <@kanzure> i think you can actually calculate that and show me evidence
19:26 <@kanzure> e.g. count the number of accounts that have a certain threshold amount and then make up some number for future exchange rate
19:26 <@kanzure> and then show me that there is enough bribing money available
19:26 < justanotheruser> kanzure: Not all bitcoiners have all their money in one account
19:26 <@kanzure> my guess is that there would be, but i wouldn't make bets, and i don't care strongly enough at the moment to do your work for you
19:27 <@kanzure> yes that's true, but there's a substantial portion that are associated with single addresses
19:27 < justanotheruser> True. It is also based on assumptions like what the exchange rate will be when the US govt starts to care
19:28 < justanotheruser> I wonder if major fiat holders will try to 51% attack it to protect themselves
19:45 <@kanzure> http://www.thebitcointrader.com/2013/04/torbroker-silk-road-of-stock-brokers.html https://torbrokerge7zxgq.onion.to/
19:51 < fredox> wow that lifeboat page had the largest collection of mornic statements i've heard in years
19:52 <@kanzure> the comments or the whole thing?
19:53 < fredox> the whole thing
19:53 < fredox> digital koolaid
19:55 <@kanzure> for example, you disagree about the feasibility of psuedonymous criminal activity? cryptolocker would be an excellent example showing you're wrong.
19:56 -!- soylentbomb [~k@unaffiliated/soylentbomb] has joined ##hplusroadmap
19:57 <@kanzure> yashgaroth: current price for human genome sequencing?
19:57 <@kanzure> yashgaroth: iirc it's about <$10k right now but i don't know the details. assume 35x coverage or something.
19:58 < yashgaroth> yeah I stopped keeping track, 10 sounds about right, maybe china can give you #1 top sequencing for less
19:58 <@kanzure> oh, friend is saying science exchange is claiming $3k
19:58 < fredox> its like einstein said
19:58 <@kanzure> seems a little unlikely. i'd believe $4-5k maybe.
19:59 < JayDugger> kanzure, there's MicroISV, which discusses marine ISPs in passing.
19:59 < yashgaroth> depends on coverage, repetitive sequences, etc
19:59 <@kanzure> https://www.scienceexchange.com/services/whole-genome-sequencing
19:59 <@kanzure> hah look at how many "no projects yet"
19:59 < JayDugger> That's Steve K. Roberts current project. Many years ago he wrote "Computing Across America," and he probably has a Wikipedia page.
20:00 < ua> what about this one http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/151086-minion-a-complete-dna-sequencer-on-a-usb-stick
20:01 < yashgaroth> also idk if those places will sell to regular people, rather than medical/research uses
20:01 <@kanzure> oh, you think that science exchange vendors will try to ID you?
20:01 -!- justanotheruser1 [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:02 <@kanzure> damn, i didn't consider that
20:02 <@kanzure> that makes me grumpy
20:02 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.221.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:02 < yashgaroth> I'm sure for an extra few grand they will overlook a lack of credentials
20:02 <@kanzure> a "donation"
20:04 < yashgaroth> still no one's doing a 23andme style direct-to-consumer for near 3k, not that anyone's gonna risk being like 23andme for a while
20:04 <@kanzure> knome?
20:05 < yashgaroth> "Knome specializes in the interpretation of human whole genomes"
20:06 < yashgaroth> did they get out of the sequencing part of that, or is it hidden away somewhere
20:06 -!- justanotheruser1 [~andrew@128.211.178.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20:07 <@kanzure> hmm, good question
20:07 < yashgaroth> it seems they're just waiting for genome sequencing to become cheap, and then they can unleash all their technology and stuff
20:08 < yashgaroth> though if anyone knows where to buy cheap genome sequencing, it'd be them presumably
20:10 < yashgaroth> I do worry genome sequencing tech has slowed down lately, after illumina and life tech had their war
20:11 <@kanzure> let's make a bunch of giant biotech companies, sue each of them out of existence, and then claim we're an advanced civilization
20:11 <@kanzure> oh also acquisitions
20:12 < yashgaroth> I should just patent DNA and then sue them all... "a method for heritable storage of information"
20:14 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:15 -!- BlueMint [~BlueMint@c58-107-240-32.mirnd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20:21 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.221.3] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:22 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:23 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:23 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:23 < soylentbomb> yashgaroth: Antonin Scalia might get in your way there
20:23 < yashgaroth> nah
20:24 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:24 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:25 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:25 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:26 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:26 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:27 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:28 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:29 -!- augur_ [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:29 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20:31 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-67-174-253-229.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20:32 -!- ParahSailin [~quassel@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has joined ##hplusroadmap
20:34 -!- entelechios [~elysium@190.184.196.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20:57 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.139.70] has joined ##hplusroadmap
21:14 < justanotheruser> For TorBroker how does a stock pay dividends? Does someone act as a proxy?
21:15 <@kanzure> i believe they are executing trades against a trading api like interactive brokers
21:16 < justanotheruser> So the site owner is executing trade un-anonymously?
21:16 <@kanzure> i think so
21:16 <@kanzure> it would probably be possible to dox them if you owned the api that they are using
21:17 <@kanzure> e.g. enter an order for 1337 shares of a certain obscure company and then see which api user makes an order for 1337 shares
21:17 < justanotheruser> yeah, thats what I was thinking
21:17 < justanotheruser> He is either really dumb, or is doing something else
21:17 < ParahSailin> we call that a bucket shop
21:17 <@kanzure> a bucket who?
21:21 < justanotheruser> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159237.0 says he owns 100% of the security. He is going to get caught unless I'm missing something
21:22 < justanotheruser> Or its a scam
21:23 <@kanzure> hah no $10k minimum
21:23 <@kanzure> that's really cool.
21:24 < ParahSailin> says public identities so i guess they self-dox'd
21:24 < justanotheruser> Are there countries where this is legal maybe?
21:25 <@kanzure> where anyone from any country can arbitrarily dump money into the stock market? no i think not
21:25 < ParahSailin> oh, i guess their idea of "public identity" is orthogonal to "actual name"
21:26 <@kanzure> "All activity in the regulated markets is registered and potentially subject to examination by suspecting regulatory parties. In order to prevent third parties from linking the trading activity at TorBroker to activity in the real markets, TorBroker will randomly split all orders up and execute these through different legal entities on different brokers. Significant activity also allows us to subtract opposite customer positions from each ...
21:26 <@kanzure> ... other, obfuscating even further the origin of our activity in the regulated markets."
21:29 <@kanzure> "so their brilliant anonymity scheme is based on the brilliant algorithms of addition and subtraction"
21:33 <@kanzure> they should rename themselves to SEC confession hole
21:33 < ParahSailin> kanzure, pm
21:37 <@kanzure> alright
21:38 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.221.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
21:49 -!- pads [~not@100.43.114.90] has joined ##hplusroadmap
21:49 -!- pads is now known as Guest47743
21:51 -!- Guest6901 [~not@100.43.114.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
21:56 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@74.45.126.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap
22:00 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@74.45.126.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
22:00 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.214.163] has joined ##hplusroadmap
22:11 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:b240:8200:94fc:ac05:3081:bde5] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
22:14 <@kanzure> damn that's a good idea, it should be called lsurl
22:14 <@kanzure> beats the heck out of my extract-links-from.py that has been floating around in my $PATH
22:25 < justanotheruser> If the SEC want to track down TorBroker it would be pretty simple. Buy a large amount on the website one day, track those who buy, sell the next day, track those who sell. Repeat 200 times and you will have a set of three people, where at least one out of the three match your buy and sell orders.
22:25 <@kanzure> wont work if there are other users buying/selling the same
22:26 <@kanzure> also what if they randomly fuzz the numbers (and take the losses as hits to their profit)
22:26 < justanotheruser> kanzure: after 200 transactions I doubt there will be people who buy and sell in line with you.
22:27 <@kanzure> well, there's a 1% trading fee both ways, so 200 seems hard to do unless you are picking stocks that are increasing or something
22:27 <@kanzure> oh wait, nevermind, just start off with a sufficiently large amount of capital
22:28 < justanotheruser> kanzure: If you count the number of times someone buys security security X the same day you do on the website and sells the same day you do, I would imaging a pattern would emerge.
22:29 <@kanzure> they might be executing against a private exchange or private broker
22:30 < justanotheruser> kanzure: Does the SEC not have access to their trade data?
22:31 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.139.70] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:35 -!- jamila [~ielo@host-78-149-132-91.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap
22:44 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap
22:47 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
22:51 -!- joshcryer [~g@unaffiliated/joshcryer] has joined ##hplusroadmap
22:53 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.214.163] has quit [Changing host]
22:53 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap
23:21 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
23:25 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.214.163] has joined ##hplusroadmap
23:25 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@184.75.214.163] has quit [Changing host]
23:25 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap
23:25 -!- augur_ [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
23:29 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap
23:32 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.219.210] has joined ##hplusroadmap
23:40 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@117.254.219.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
--- Log closed Thu Dec 05 00:00:44 2013