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09:33 <@kanzure> http://www.amazon.com/The-Sovereign-Individual-Transition-Information/dp/0684832720
09:38 < JayDugger> Have you read the 1997 edition?
09:43 <@kanzure> nope
09:43 <@kanzure> i was just browsing through the preview that amazon provides, it warns the reader to not become a programmer because ai :)
09:44 < pasky> wouldn't that be a *good* reason to become a programmer?
09:45 <@kanzure> i would think so
09:46 < chris_99> unless you want to sit around waiting for someone else to invent it heh
09:47 <@kanzure> their argument about ai was weak because if there's ai then there are many other issues to consider other than "should i bother to know how to write code"
09:48 < chris_99> ah
09:48 <@kanzure> i enjoyed seeing this, http://imgur.com/a/eV74v#1
09:48 <@kanzure> for some reason people are surprised that anyone bothered to read the cypherpunks mailing list, but whatever
09:48 < chris_99> what's that from kanzure
09:48 <@kanzure> the book we are talking about
09:48 < chris_99> ah
09:52 < JayDugger> I remember reading it about the time it saw print, and finding it pretty unconvincing, even though I belonged to the choir to which they preached.
09:52 < jamila> hey do you like my picture
09:52 < jamila> http://i.imgur.com/naXB76u.jpg
09:53 <@kanzure> JayDugger: yeah, i can see that their arguments lack a lot of substance, although they seem to get around
09:54 < JayDugger> I don't think the new edition will be all that useful, but it probably deserves a spot on the "check out from the public library" list.
09:54 <@kanzure> i wasn't aware of a new edition.
09:55 < JayDugger> That Amazon page is the new edition, but I might have misread the page in an attack of senility.
09:56 < JayDugger> Nope, sorry. I have gone senile.
09:56 < JayDugger> No new edition.
09:59 <@kanzure> JayDugger: have you seen this? http://torbrokerge7zxgq.onion.to/
10:07 < JayDugger> I have, yes.
10:07 < JayDugger> Being senile, I haven't switched to a modern IRC client and so those answers are in IM.
10:08 <@kanzure> hah, yes i see your replies now
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10:12 <@kanzure> "For evidence, consider the move by the Seychelles, a tiny country in the Indian Ocean, to enact a new investment law that U.S. government officials describe as a 'Welcome Criminals' act. Under the law, anyone who invests $10 million in the Seychelles will not only be guaranteed protection against extradition, but will be issued a diplomatic passport."
10:13 < JayDugger> Seychelles--the subject of how many coup attempts last century?
10:15 < JayDugger> Only two, I think. :)
10:15 <@kanzure> the book is very pandering and almost quaint
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11:16 <@kanzure> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/peoplenotes/id757443912?ls=1&mt=8 "Stay in touch using automatically generated and personalized emails"
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16:35 <@kanzure> stolkholm people interested in "open science" https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/stkhmos
16:35 <@kanzure> blargh i meant stockholm
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17:16 <@kanzure> "First, we collected blood samples and created cell-lines to preserve the DNA from more than 100 centenarians whose genomes will be sequenced and put into an open data forum; and second, through the generous support of the Templeton Foundation, we created a Validation Protocol, the industry's first analytical tool for assessing the overall quality of whole genome sequences. Both have tremendous potential to benefit the genomics community ...
17:17 <@kanzure> ... worldwide."
17:17 <@kanzure> was the 100 centenarians thing the acorn thing?
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