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Specifically I'm looking for really simple pumping systems 09:37 < delinquentme> I've been thinking about reproducibility for microfluidics ... but a difficult bit is when they're using syringe pumps external to the chip to perform the operation 09:38 < delinquentme> if the pumping mechanisms were designed on-chip ... everything would be a snap to replicate 09:38 < kanzure> well it's not going to be self-powered if that's what you're looking for 09:38 < delinquentme> nah doesnt need to be ... but you could stick in a pump that is user operated with just a depressable area on the chip 09:39 < delinquentme> Theres this emeral biosciences serial dilution for crystalization that I think I could replicate without hooking up syringe pumps :D 09:54 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@pool-108-39-210-212.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:56 -!- entelechy [~elysium@181.194.145.204] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:34 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:42 -!- pad2 [~not@100.43.114.90] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:44 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:44 -!- Guest84393 [~not@100.43.114.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:55 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 251 seconds] 11:10 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:12 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:13 < nmz787> chris_99: check this out for your ADC and DAC needs... $20 for the dev boards, I just got 3 in so we could work on the code together if you'd like! http://www.lpcware.com/content/faq/lpcxpresso/using-lpclink2-as-lpc4370-eval 11:14 < nmz787> chris_99: you know you can low-pass filter PWM to make a DAC 11:14 < chris_99> yeah i've heard that. What Msps are they? 11:17 < chris_99> i'm confused what those boarsds are? 11:21 < chris_99> looks like their ADC can only do 400 kSamples/s 11:24 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:30 < chris_99> what are you making nmz787? 11:40 -!- ascendancy [~ascendanc@199.44.250.219] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:40 -!- aelinoea [~aelinoea@a88-113-45-152.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:44 < nmz787> no, 80 msps 11:45 < nmz787> only mcu with such high sample rate 11:47 < chris_99> where does it say 80msps 11:47 < chris_99> is it more than just the LPC4370 then? 11:47 < nmz787> no its integrated 11:48 < nmz787> called adchs 11:48 < nmz787> in datasheet 11:48 < chris_99> ah sorry i missed that bit 'One 6-channel, 12-bit high-speed ADC (ADCHS) with DMA support and a data conversion rate of 80 MSamples/s' 11:49 < chris_99> i already got a 16 bit chip from Ti, @ 100Msps, and a QFN adapter for it, but that does look cool 11:50 < chris_99> of wait that's an ADC 11:50 < chris_99> *oh 11:50 < chris_99> i need 100Msps DAC 11:50 < chris_99> (which is what i got from Ti, i mean) 11:51 < chris_99> sorry i'm being completely stupid today 11:51 < nmz787> oh wow that's quite fast oh wow that's quite fast 11:52 < nmz787> books on the phone and using voice to text 11:52 < nmz787> whoops * 11:52 < chris_99> sorry to rephrase, what i actually have is a Ti 100Msps ADC 16 bit, and 30Msps i think DAC from Analog 11:53 < chris_99> i need 16 bit on the ADC really 11:53 < chris_99> to get the accuracy i need 11:53 < chris_99> from what i've read 11:54 < chris_99> also the DAC is 14 bit 11:54 < kanzure> what was that story about a sysadmin's presence causing bugs to appear/go away, and it turned out to be something about the electrostatic properties of his clothings? 11:55 < kanzure> this was from some unix folklore site (maybe it was on an esr site but i dunno) 11:55 < nmz787> sometimes you can oversample to achieve more effective number of bits 11:55 -!- entelechy [~elysium@181.194.145.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:56 < kanzure> oh i guess there was http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/magic-story.html 11:56 < kanzure> but that's not exactly what i'm aiming for 11:57 < chris_99> i was just about to link to that 11:58 < chris_99> what are you making anyway nmz787? 12:10 -!- ascendancy [~ascendanc@wg-dhcp174d251d178.win.wireless.fsu.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:16 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@pool-71-255-241-91.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:22 -!- entelechy [~elysium@190.184.196.50] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:24 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:27 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:32 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:35 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:35 < nmz787> spectrometers, machine vision and lithography 12:37 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@220-118-15.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:38 < chris_99> i was just thinking 200MHz clock speed would probably be too slow for me even if i could use the ADC, as i couldn't process the signal in realtime at that speed afaik 12:41 < nmz787> 3 corese 12:41 < nmz787> even with 3 cores? whay are you doing? 12:41 < nmz787> what 12:42 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:44 < chris_99> hmm i'm not sure, it depends, do the cores do 200MIPS, i need to process the signal in realtime, maybe it's possible, but it could be pushing it 12:44 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:46 < chris_99> i'm trying to perform peak detection on a number of pulses, from the ADC 12:47 < nmz787> if you dont have a clock to trigger on you 12:48 < nmz787> you'll need a sample delay or oversample 12:48 < chris_99> sorry don't understand you, what my plan is, is to do: ADC------->FPGA<------DAC 12:51 -!- klafka [~klafka@204-16-157-18-static.ipnetworksinc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:52 < nmz787> if you dont know when the peak is, you'll have to look for more times than it's occuring 12:52 < chris_99> the pulses are only @ 2MHz, i'm sampling at 100Mhz 12:53 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:57 < nmz787> ahh, good then 12:57 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:58 < nmz787> what fpga are you looking at, something in an eval board? ive got a de0-nano that i havent done much with 12:58 < chris_99> i've got one from china atm, but i'm looking @ the cyclone iv 12:58 < chris_99> on sec i'll link you 12:59 < chris_99> this is the one i'm thinking of getting http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261188850625?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 12:59 < chris_99> as it can operate up to 400Mhz iirc 13:01 -!- kuldeepdhaka_ [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:07 -!- ascendancy [~ascendanc@wg-dhcp174d251d178.win.wireless.fsu.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09 -!- aelinoea [~aelinoea@a88-113-45-152.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:23 -!- klafka [~klafka@38.99.52.154] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:33 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@248.7.broadband3.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:33 -!- ascendancy [~ascendanc@199.44.250.219] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:35 -!- phillyj [~chatzilla@c-68-80-251-160.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:36 < phillyj> paperbot: http://www.indianjournals.com/ijor.aspx?target=ijor:ijphrd&volume=2&issue=1&article=035 13:36 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/dd87e40b144acc22fda21a4902a11ee.txt 13:51 -!- phillyj [~chatzilla@c-68-80-251-160.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310]] 14:17 -!- Alambrado [~Jack@c-107-4-148-59.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:20 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:40 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:06 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@220-118-15.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:26 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:40 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:58 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:03 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:07 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:07 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:08 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:14 -!- klafka [~klafka@38.99.52.154] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:37 -!- phryk [~phryk@valhalla.phryk.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:59 < JayDugger> kanzure, there's a story in David Agans's "Debugging" about a plaid shirt causing a video encoding hardware system to crash. 16:59 < JayDugger> Perhaps one anecdote influenced the other. 17:17 -!- entelechy [~elysium@190.184.196.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:17 < kanzure> haven't heard that one before 17:20 < kanzure> cathal garvey has asked me to "suck it up" and use retroshare 17:21 -!- entelechios [~elysium@190.184.196.50] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:23 < superkuh> Retroshare is great. 17:24 < superkuh> I've managed to convince a lot of my peers and even some family to use it. I'd never have been able to get them to use public key encryption any other way. 17:25 < kanzure> did this convincing happen before or after the snowden leaks? 17:25 < superkuh> After. 17:25 < superkuh> It definitely influenced my peers. 18:01 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:07 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-89-243-44-213.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:09 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:b240:8200:96d:40b6:27a2:da08] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:32 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:35 < kanzure> yashgaroth: what do you think about synthesizing etanercept? it looks like it's a typical fusion protein 18:35 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:36 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:37 < yashgaroth> yeah wouldn't be too hard, decent expression for antibody fusion proteins; still gotta spend a lot of effort getting a high-producing stable mammalian cell line, but once you have that... 18:37 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:37 < kanzure> what type of cell line? 18:37 < yashgaroth> they probably use some sort of CHO 18:38 < kanzure> so pretty standard 18:38 < yashgaroth> very much so 18:38 < kanzure> not much black magic going on here 18:38 < kanzure> hmm 18:38 < kanzure> in fact it looks like all of this can happen through science exchange 18:39 < kanzure> typical hu-man dosage is 25 mg/week 18:39 < kanzure> 50 mg/week 18:39 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:40 < yashgaroth> that's a pretty low dose compared to most mAbs 18:41 < ParahSailin> kanzure: you really wanna get some antibody drugs? 18:42 < kanzure> just musing 18:42 < kanzure> i'm not an old lady with super arthritis 18:43 < ParahSailin> avastin? 18:43 < kanzure> someone was complaining about an increase in price of their drugs 18:44 < kanzure> or insurance coverage was dropping it 18:56 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:56 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:23 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-54-226-177-97.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:23 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-196-168-103.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:55 -!- Technicus [~Technicus@166.181.82.132] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:02 -!- Technicus [~Technicus@166.181.82.132] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is"] 20:21 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:21 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:24 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:25 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:26 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:29 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:55 -!- streety [streety@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:ded6] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:56 -!- oblique [~oblique@unaffiliated/oblique] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:14 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-89-243-44-213.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:20 -!- nicotiana_b [~GuanYu@109.201.154.155] has quit [Quit: до свидания] 21:30 -!- entelechios [~elysium@190.184.196.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:39 -!- Twey [~twey@unaffiliated/twey] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:50 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Quit: Q] 22:06 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.145.204] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:09 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:b240:8200:96d:40b6:27a2:da08] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:10 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:12 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:12 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:17 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:43 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:03 -!- ParahSailin [~parahsail@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:04 -!- Technicus [~Technicus@166.181.82.132] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:06 < Technicus> Hello, I went over to #mac, so that I could ask questions about building a hackintosh . . . but the topic includes a bannin clause for asking about it: " Breaking NDA, asking about warez, hackintosh, unsupported VMs or proprietary information = kickban". Is it approporate to discuss hackintosh here? 23:12 -!- pads [~not@100.43.114.90] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:12 -!- pads is now known as Guest2329 23:14 -!- pad2 [~not@100.43.114.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:19 < justanotheruser> yo paperbot can you serve me this paper http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6547113&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D6547113 23:19 < justanotheruser> paperbot http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6547113&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D6547113 23:19 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1109%2FSP.2013.47 23:22 -!- Technicus [~Technicus@166.181.82.132] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is"] 23:22 < justanotheruser> paperbot: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2517878 23:22 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1145%2F2517872.2517878 23:24 -!- klafka [~klafka@c-50-161-113-143.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:29 -!- KegCoyote [59d33a8e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.211.58.142] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:38 -!- ParahSailin [~parahsail@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:39 -!- oblique [~oblique@unaffiliated/oblique] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:42 -!- ParahSailin [~parahsail@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:43 -!- ParahSailin [~parahsail@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:53 -!- KegCoyote is now known as KegYote 23:54 -!- KegYote [59d33a8e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.211.58.142] has quit [Quit: Page closed] --- Log closed Fri Jan 10 00:00:19 2014