--- Log opened Tue Jan 14 00:00:23 2014 00:00 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:45 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:59 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:20 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.145.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:42 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:44 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:45 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:45 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:08 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-225-25-236.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:08 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-225-25-236.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:11 -!- Zhwazi [~Zhwazi@copyfree/contributor/Zhwazi] has quit [Quit: Bouncer shutting down] 02:12 -!- Zhwazi [~Zhwazi@copyfree/contributor/Zhwazi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:19 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:20 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:28 -!- paperbot [~paperbot@131.252.130.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:36 -!- phryk is now known as whatvoiceplease 02:36 -!- whatvoiceplease is now known as phryk 02:55 -!- dantespeaks [~dantespea@75-119-226-56.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client] 03:06 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:01 -!- Adillian [~Adillian@94.9.98.141] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:15 -!- dantespeaks [~dantespea@75-119-226-56.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:21 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-24-29-203.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:40 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:41 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@ti0088a400-2750.bb.online.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:47 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:31 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:34 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@ti0088a400-2750.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:07 -!- aelinoea [~aelinoea@a88-113-45-152.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:12 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@214-111-15.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:50 -!- venturecommunist [~ventureco@unaffiliated/venturecommunist] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:01 -!- pad2 [~not@100.43.114.90] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:04 -!- Guest83182 [~not@100.43.114.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:43 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.145.204] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:05 < kanzure> hahaha http://homakov.blogspot.nl/2014/01/account-hijacking-on-mtgox.html 08:08 < kanzure> coinbase next 08:08 < kanzure> since they use oauth2 08:09 < pasky> still i like mtgox response i guess (though having some bounties would be good) 08:13 < kanzure> Who to join? OAuth2.a? i am just a russian scriptkiddie nobody listens to :/ 08:14 < kanzure> http://homakov.blogspot.com/2013/03/oauth1-oauth2-oauth.html 08:14 < wallmani> hello russian script kiddie 08:21 -!- Qfwfq is now known as Qfwfq|away 08:23 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:34 -!- aelinoea [~aelinoea@a88-113-45-152.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:39 -!- ascendancy [~ascendanc@199.44.250.219] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:41 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:44 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-24-29-203.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:17 -!- dantespeaks [~dantespea@75-119-226-56.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:09 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.15.96] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:22 -!- Qfwfq|away is now known as Qfwfq 10:42 < kanzure> paperbot: http://comp.social.gatech.edu/papers/cscw14.crowdfunding.mitra.pdf 10:42 < kanzure> kickstarter seo analysis thing 10:42 -!- paperbot [~paperbot@131.252.130.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:42 < kanzure> paperbot: http://comp.social.gatech.edu/papers/cscw14.crowdfunding.mitra.pdf 10:42 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/537c4cb93e3047f7a1c9884bf68df195.pdf 10:51 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:59 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:04 -!- entelechios [~elysium@181.194.145.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:07 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-78-147-235-26.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:35 -!- ascendancy [~ascendanc@199.44.250.219] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:10 < FourFire> soo... 12:11 < kanzure> yes? 12:11 < FourFire> what are opinions on the apparently named "internet for robots" ? 12:11 < kanzure> discriminatory; i should have access to the same network as any other piece of hardware 12:12 < FourFire> ok 12:12 < FourFire> I guess you hate paywalled science papers then 12:13 < kanzure> fuck yeah i do? 12:13 < kanzure> what do you think paperbot is 12:13 < wallmani> what is the purpose of giving paperbot a link like that? 12:14 < kanzure> i don't trust other servers to store pdfs 12:14 < kanzure> so paperbot does it for me 12:14 < FourFire> :D 12:14 < wallmani> ah 12:14 < wallmani> just that? :D 12:15 < wallmani> is he only for your use? 12:15 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot 12:15 < wallmani> what about the stored papers? 12:15 < wallmani> is that place only downloadable by you? 12:16 < kanzure> are you able to access http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/537c4cb93e3047f7a1c9884bf68df195.pdf 12:17 < wallmani> yeah 12:17 < wallmani> is there a comprehensive list? 12:17 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/ 12:17 < wallmani> you are awesome 12:17 < wallmani> do you mind if i download that? 12:17 < wallmani> _all of it_? 12:17 < jrayhawk> yes, hoarding is always awesome 12:18 < jrayhawk> if you hoard enough, you even get put on TV! 12:18 < kanzure> don't encourage me 12:18 < wallmani> haha 12:18 < wallmani> me and a buddy have a git repo for papers 12:18 < kanzure> downloading it is fine just don't be an idiot and ddos me 12:18 < wallmani> that we both read 12:18 < wallmani> it's fun 12:18 < kanzure> storing papers in git is stupid and you should feel bad about yourself 12:18 < chris_99> heh i do that 12:18 < kanzure> unless they are latex 12:18 < jrayhawk> git-annex would make a fair amount of sense 12:18 < kanzure> git-annex is probably not what he means 12:18 < wallmani> oh, haven't heard of git annex 12:19 < wallmani> jrayhawk: looks a lot better than my current solution 12:19 < wallmani> kanzure: thing is, the files don't get changed or moved from the repo, so it doesn't take up that much space 12:19 -!- entelechios [~elysium@mail.2bett.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:19 < kanzure> it seems like you're using git as a workaround for not wanting to use rsync or some other file synchronizer 12:20 < wallmani> yeah, mostly to handle adding more users 12:20 < wallmani> and not giving ssh access to a machine 12:21 < jrayhawk> if it's not immediately clear, git annex is a system for versioning symlinks to object files rather than versioning the object files themselves, so there's no cost to checkout. 12:21 -!- entelechios [~elysium@mail.2bett.com] has quit [Client Quit] 12:21 < wallmani> yeah, i'm looking at it now 12:21 < wallmani> i will see how i can use it 12:21 < wallmani> i can see a few applications for this 12:22 < jrayhawk> with lots of optional features for asynchronous object retrieval and distributed redundancy and stuff 12:23 < kanzure> why is the top of my laptop's screen warmer than the bottom? 12:23 < jrayhawk> Backlights might require weird voltage transforms. 12:24 < wallmani> electrons are lighter than air so they float up to the bottom of the clossed chasis of a laptop 12:24 < jrayhawk> haha 12:24 < wallmani> and it heats it up because of that 12:24 < kanzure> oh good call, i did have the backlight on and had forgotten about it 12:24 < wallmani> jeez i need to motivate myself to finish this task 12:25 < kanzure> have you considered piles of drugs 12:25 < wallmani> i have 12:25 < wallmani> this is what happens when i agree to work on a paper with my boss, who is a postdoc 12:25 < wallmani> "hey wallmani, your research can lead to a paper if we do some more things" and 3 months later "oh, you will have to redo some things because we can send it to a better conference then" 12:26 < kanzure> gradstudentbot: you should coauthor a paper with wallmani 12:26 < gradstudentbot> I don't remember the paper, but someone definitely did that. 12:26 < kanzure> gradstudentbot: are you going to write the draft? 12:26 < gradstudentbot> How many pages do I owe you? 12:27 < wallmani> haha 12:27 < wallmani> gradstudentbot: i heard you wanted a day off to work on your own research, what nonse is this? -Your Advisor 12:27 < gradstudentbot> I hope they kick me out. 12:28 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:30 < kanzure> wallmani: try giving paperbot a link to a nature.com paper 12:32 < wallmani> one sec 12:34 < jrayhawk> re: motivate myself: https://www.beeminder.com/ looks amusingly plausible for that 12:34 -!- ua [~ua@unaffiliated/uniqanomaly] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:39 < wallmani> kanzure: i set my download to be 500KB/s if you don't mind 12:39 < kanzure> whatever, ask jrayhawk for max rate limit 12:40 < jrayhawk> 100MiB/s should be fine 12:41 < wallmani> heh 12:41 < wallmani> i wish i had more than 100MiB/s 12:41 < wallmani> from my work machine 12:42 < wallmani> although supposedly in a year we are getting 1gbit, and 10gbit to everything in the uni 12:42 < jrayhawk> I imagine VT is on internet2, so those sorts of speeds should be reasonably easily achievable 12:43 < wallmani> yeah 12:43 < wallmani> i used to work in a lab in the university datacenter 12:43 < wallmani> it was 1gbit to all other universities and to DC 12:43 < kanzure> jrayhawk: try not to give away the reason why internet2 is relevant here 12:43 < wallmani> i used to have a speedtest result image somewhere for that 12:43 < kanzure> jrayhawk: even though it's practically obvious 12:44 < kanzure> jrayhawk: apparently not everyone is clever enough to think about that 12:44 < jrayhawk> you are the king of subtlety 12:44 < wallmani> heh, why is it relevant here? 12:44 < kanzure> :facepalm: 12:45 < kanzure> yeah jrayhawk just brought it up because he's a random nutjob, sure.. 12:45 < kanzure> i can't tell what you were thinking about why he would mention it 12:46 < kanzure> actually i'm not sure: who else is hooked up to internet2? 12:46 < jrayhawk> http://members.internet2.edu/university/universities.cfm 12:46 < jrayhawk> http://members.internet2.edu/corporate/corporate.cfm 12:46 < kanzure> oh there are corporate members 12:46 < kanzure> welp nevermind 12:46 < jrayhawk> http://www.internet2.edu/communities-groups/members/research-education-networks/ 12:47 < jrayhawk> http://www.internet2.edu/communities-groups/groups/ 12:47 < kanzure> i see microsoft's logo there.. does that mean all microsoft campuses? 12:47 < jrayhawk> Probably. Microsoft dumps a *lot* of money into research. 12:48 < kanzure> hrm, not many options for working somewhere with modern internet access 12:49 < kanzure> i wonder how much revenue beeminder is pulling in 12:51 -!- ivan` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:58 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@214-111-15.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:59 -!- QuadIngi [~fourfire@214-111-15.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:59 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@214-111-15.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:04 -!- QuadIngi [~fourfire@214-111-15.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Client Quit] 13:08 < wallmani> kanzure: are you a native russian speaker? 13:09 < kanzure> Медведев Д анила 13:09 < wallmani> what about that name? 13:09 < kanzure> yeah i'm just bullshitting you 13:10 < kanzure> no i am not a native russian speaker 13:10 < wallmani> ah, i saw a russian explanation on your pdf watermark removal, so i thought maybe you were a native speaker 13:10 < wallmani> unless you learnt russian later 13:19 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-78-147-235-26.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:36 -!- pad2 [~not@100.43.114.90] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37 -!- pad2 [~not@100.43.114.90] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:46 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:53 -!- top4o [~chatzilla@93-152-180-149.ddns.onlinedirect.bg] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:00 -!- AshleyWaffle [anastasiaw@unaffiliated/anastasiawyatt] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:23 < chris_99> anyone know how much the US gov. spend on science funding out of interest 14:29 < kanzure> "not much", low 10's of billions 14:30 < chris_99> i just saw that China spent $100 billion last year 14:49 < jrayhawk> There's a lot of indirect funding as well, so direct comparison between countries is difficult to quantify. 14:50 < kanzure> plus military spending too.. 14:50 < wallmani> yep 14:50 < wallmani> i work on a multikernel OS in a lab and most of our funding is from the US navy 14:50 < kanzure> oh you're not wetlab? 14:50 -!- AshleyWaffle [anastasiaw@unaffiliated/anastasiawyatt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:50 < wallmani> no, never heard of that 14:52 < gradstudentbot> I don't remember the paper, but someone definitely did that. 14:52 < wallmani> heh 14:52 < wallmani> gradstudentbot: hi 14:52 < gradstudentbot> The freezer was too cold and fucked up my sample DNA. 14:52 < kanzure> wetlab means biology stuff 14:53 < wallmani> i looked it up after i said that 14:53 < wallmani> but no, i'm in a software development lab 14:53 < kanzure> btw how did you find this channel or why are you here? 14:53 < wallmani> i don't even remember 14:53 < wallmani> i am interested in nootropics 14:53 < wallmani> and someone linked me to here 14:53 < gradstudentbot> I don't have enough data to form a hypothesis. 14:53 < wallmani> from lesswrong 14:54 < chris_99> a multikernel os sounds interesting, whats the idea of that? (is it to improve scheduling or something?) 14:54 < kanzure> lazyos things happen eventually once scheduled 14:57 < wallmani> chris_99: if you are very interested i can link to a paper about it 14:57 < chris_99> sure that'd be cool 15:00 < wallmani> can't find the main paper right now and my work machine is down 15:00 < wallmani> here's the website http://popcornlinux.org/index.php/overview 15:02 < chris_99> cheers, that sounds really interesting 15:02 < kanzure> 13:56 <@quanticle> Back when mining Bitcoin was still feasible using EC2, we found that a significant number of our fraud cases came from people mining Bitcoin using EC2 accounts paid for with stolen credit cards. 15:02 < kanzure> 13:57 <@quanticle> So essentially they were laundering money by turning credit card lines of credit into Bitcoin via EC2. 15:05 < chris_99> wallmani, in simple terms how do you actually run multiple linux kernels 15:09 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.15.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:14 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@214-111-15.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:15 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@95.211.186.115] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:15 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@95.211.186.115] has quit [Changing host] 15:15 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:32 < wallmani> one kernel starts, and then it starts up more kernels 15:32 < wallmani> the limitation is 1 kernel per core 15:32 < wallmani> and the kernels communicate using a messaging system developed by the lab 15:38 < chris_99> how do you actually spawn the other kernels, is it a case of using something like fork or is it a lot more complex than that 15:42 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:49 -!- Adillian [~Adillian@94.9.98.141] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:49 < wallmani> a bit more complex 15:50 < wallmani> i don't remember the exact details off the top of my head 15:50 < wallmani> well, there is the trampoline in the kernel 15:50 < wallmani> and kexec 15:50 < wallmani> and those are the tools that were modified 15:53 < chris_99> is the idea to isolate processes by pushing them out onto one of these kernels, so it limits any damage, like in a VM 15:53 < wallmani> yeah 15:54 < wallmani> also part of the application of it would be to run it on heterogeneous hardware 15:54 < wallmani> and make CPUs and whole other machines hotswappable 15:54 < wallmani> also, the multikernel approach would actually improve performance on very big machines 15:55 < wallmani> and pretty much most NUMA memory architecture machines would get a slight performance boost on multithreaded applications 15:55 < chris_99> because the the kernel would actually be on the same phys core of the app you mean, the communication would be faster? 15:56 < jrayhawk> There's a lot of overhead in synchronizing atomic operations between many-core machines. 15:57 < jrayhawk> Linux, while technically usable, is not actually a good idea on 4096 cores. 15:57 < jrayhawk> At least they got rid of the BKL 15:59 < chris_99> with Linux in general in an SMP system, is there like a master kernel process, then other 'slaves' or are they all equal 16:01 < jrayhawk> Linux runs a lot of threads ('pstree 2' is probably interesting on your system), at least. 16:01 < jrayhawk> Which are in some sense slaves to the scheduler. 16:02 < chris_99> ah interesting i didn't realise it did it through kthreads 16:07 < kanzure> there used to be this kernel project that started with an m that did kernel-process-transfer stuff 16:08 < chris_99> mosix 16:08 < chris_99> openmosix 16:08 < chris_99> that was pretty cool 16:09 < kanzure> mosix! yes. 16:09 < kanzure> wait, no. 16:09 < chris_99> i think the guys went onto virtualisation stuff 16:09 < kanzure> mosix.org seems to call it a kernel 16:09 < chris_99> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMosix 16:09 < chris_99> it was a kernel mod 16:09 < kanzure> oh i see 16:10 < jrayhawk> we ran a mosix cluster of, like, 30 machines back in highschool. we could never find a workload that actually went faster than one machine. 16:10 < kanzure> this was back when i was pretending to be a kernel developer as a 13 year old 16:10 < chris_99> jrayhawk, i think some mpeg encodery type stuff was supposed to work on it 16:10 < jrayhawk> important life lesson: do not attempt to use ethernet as a backplane 16:10 < chris_99> heh 16:12 < gradstudentbot> Huh, this western worked on the first try. 16:18 < wallmani> gradstudentbot: i love you 16:18 < gradstudentbot> I don't know, I think that's kind of problematic. 16:18 < wallmani> he he 16:18 < wallmani> where is he getting the quotes from? 16:19 < wallmani> jrayhawk: we are trying to create an efficient enough protocol to make communication between kernels scale easily 16:19 < kanzure> years of collective suffering on behalf of all grad students everywhere 16:19 < wallmani> and enable process/thread migratino 16:19 < kanzure> but also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovEghdXC4tE 16:20 < jrayhawk> chris_99: http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/papers/linux:osdi10.pdf http://halobates.de/lk09-scalability.pdf are decent introductions to the scalability issues, though they were both written in the BKL era 16:20 < chris_99> thanks :) 16:20 < gradstudentbot> We simply don't do enough titrations in my lab. 16:20 < kanzure> i don't understand why you randomly have experience in mosix or some project that i once poked around at 16:21 < jrayhawk> we had a lot of crappy old machines and a lot of free time 16:21 < kanzure> what was this, high school for posix misfits? 16:21 < chris_99> haha 16:21 < wallmani> haha 16:21 < jrayhawk> close to it 16:22 < jrayhawk> it was either that or PVM, and PVM doesn't seem nearly as cool 16:22 < jrayhawk> I mean, you could run that shit on WINDOWS 16:22 < wallmani> are you both graduate students now? 16:23 < kanzure> friends don't let friends go to super school 16:23 < kanzure> i'm an undergrad dropout. i got my papers published and then fled for my life. 16:24 < jrayhawk> no, i am a posix systems/networking/hosting consultant and he is a swearing-at-python-programmers consultant 16:24 < kanzure> i am just a generally grumpy consultant 16:25 < jrayhawk> i am a highschool dropout. i am going to claim that makes me one better. 16:26 < kanzure> it does and this will be my eternal shame :\ 16:27 < jrayhawk> i host a vserver for a middle school dropout CEO. he makes me feel bad about having wasted those years of my life. 16:27 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:27 < kanzure> i had this high school teacher that was constantly telling me "you know, you could just go work for yahoo right now and make a killing" 16:28 < kanzure> so my parents sat down with him, and he said the same thing, except plus "but he could also just stay in school" 16:31 < jrayhawk> http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=b+bishop+austin where are these publishings of yours 16:32 < kanzure> wow even my email address doesn't show them? 16:32 < kanzure> http://nar.oxfordjournals.org/content/40/D1/D1250.short 16:32 < kanzure> my email address is clearly right in there 16:33 < kanzure> also this one http://www.eng.buffalo.edu/Research/DOES/administrator/components/com_jresearch/files/publications/JCISE.2010.pdf 16:34 < kanzure> also there was this, but i wasn't included as an author because biology is brutal bloodsport: 16:34 < kanzure> http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/6/Suppl_4/S523.short 16:35 < kanzure> i wish i could make an argument for that singinst paper about uncertainfuture.git but all i can claim is contributed code during the project (definitely no involvement on the exact paper) 16:35 < jrayhawk> an oddly short list 16:36 < jrayhawk> the author list, i mean 16:36 < kanzure> i was a freshman in undergrad- i wasn't exactly able to convince all my advisors to pay the fees to publish anythi-- oh 16:37 < kanzure> if you will notice, that's one of the ultima people 16:39 < jrayhawk> man, he actually admits to working on Ultima VIII 16:39 < gradstudentbot> Sigh, my invasive fruit flies won’t have sex for me. 16:39 < jrayhawk> why, when you have VII on your resume, would you even mention VIII 16:40 < wallmani> i wish i could drop out of college and then legally stay in the US 16:43 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:48 -!- top4o_ [~chatzilla@93-152-180-149.ddns.onlinedirect.bg] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:49 -!- top4o [~chatzilla@93-152-180-149.ddns.onlinedirect.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:51 -!- top4o [~chatzilla@93-152-180-149.ddns.onlinedirect.bg] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:54 -!- top4o_ [~chatzilla@93-152-180-149.ddns.onlinedirect.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:56 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:59 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:01 -!- 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