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I have a TI-83 and a TI-84. 08:45 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@95.211.140.99] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:45 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@95.211.140.99] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 08:46 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@95.211.140.99] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:46 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@95.211.140.99] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 08:47 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@95.211.140.99] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:47 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@95.211.140.99] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 08:48 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.120.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:48 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@95.211.140.99] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:48 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@95.211.140.99] has quit [Changing host] 08:48 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:09 <@ParahSailin> in javascript, you are not allowed to take the event from one event handler and re-use that event object in a dispatchEvent? 09:12 <@ParahSailin> oh right, i guess with the bubbling up of events, that would be really bad 09:30 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:40 < kanzure> how do you like ripping your eyes out? 10:00 < nsh> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-1-4020-6268-1_16 10:00 < nsh> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-1-4020-6268-1_16 10:00 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c993cf83890cd4de2ca55a6294264fd1.txt 10:25 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:40 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:42 < kanzure> someone has written a ruby gem for brlcad, 10:42 < kanzure> http://www.roantrail.com/tovero/tovero.rb 10:42 < kanzure> http://www.roantrail.com/tovero/ 10:44 -!- nsh [~nsh@host81-154-210-225.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:50 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:06 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:16 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@50-1-105-185.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:40 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@50-1-105-185.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:40 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:44 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:44 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:51 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:27 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@120-228-15.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:31 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@pool-108-39-210-212.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:53 -!- kyknos_ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:57 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:17 < delinquentme> paperbot, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X03005322 13:18 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/362deaa299d9f69f3ba8dd8089f1a9bc.txt 13:18 < delinquentme> paperbot, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X03005322 13:18 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4f94fe2c4f1c06ec4740960c64e88e81.txt 13:21 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@120-228-15.connect.netcom.no] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 13:30 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-78-147-231-251.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:38 -!- robde [~robde@95-91-251-29-dynip.superkabel.de] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Bye."] 15:00 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.121.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:00 -!- cthulu [~tpi@c-107-4-148-59.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:05 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@50.121.121.194] has quit [Changing host] 15:05 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:06 -!- cthulu [~tpi@c-107-4-148-59.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:25 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 15:33 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@utdpat241069.utdallas.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:41 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@pool-108-39-210-212.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:56 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@pool-108-39-210-212.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:02 <@heath> anyone interested in buying my old desktop? 16:02 <@heath> https://gist.github.com/heath/8722731 16:02 <@heath> I'm guessing it's worht about $300 16:03 <@heath> probably more, but i'm not so sure 16:03 < kanzure> wow my laptop has more ram than that 16:04 <@heath> jeebs 16:04 <@heath> i've only got 16gb on my lappy 16:05 < kanzure> i am mostly joking, my laptop is unreasonable 16:13 -!- accolade [~accolade@unaffiliated/accolade] has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:13 -!- accolade_ [~accolade@unaffiliated/accolade] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:13 -!- n_bentha [~GuanYu@162.219.176.226] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:22 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:24 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:26 -!- accolade_ is now known as accolade 16:35 -!- drewbug [~drew@fsf/member/drewbug] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:36 < drewbug> Anyone in San Francisco here? :) 16:41 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@utdpat241069.utdallas.edu] has quit [Quit: Just going out for a swim...] 16:45 < kanzure> there's a few of them 16:46 < kanzure> brownies saurik delinquentme(?) juul(?) 16:46 < kanzure> i think we're missing a few regulars 16:47 < saurik> saurik is in santa barbara 16:48 < kanzure> apologies 16:49 < kanzure> saurik: i hope the mudslinging has died down since the recent jailbreaking dustup? 16:52 < saurik> that only lasted a day or two 16:53 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:58 < drewbug> Gotcha. 16:59 < drewbug> Well, I'm in the area for the first time, and I was wondering if anyone was interested in hanging out. 17:00 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-78-147-231-251.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:07 <@heath> i'll toss in my old b570 lappy as well and the gaming mouse + mousepad, any takers? :) 17:09 <@heath> k, i'm out for a big 17:09 <@heath> bit* 17:10 < drewbug> heath: What are you talking about? 17:10 <@heath> https://gist.github.com/heath/8722731 17:13 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@utdpat241069.utdallas.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:28 -!- drewbug [~drew@fsf/member/drewbug] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:29 <@ParahSailin> i just got a steelcase leap chair 17:44 < kanzure> leap? 17:45 < accolade> stupid question: What's biohacking? (Or should I just effing google it? ;p ) 17:47 < kanzure> pretty much the same thing as hacking in anything else except it usually tends to refer to molecular biology arts rather than bird watching etc 17:48 < accolade> "arts"? Also, I didn't know there was hacking in bird watching haha … ;) 17:48 < accolade> care to give an example? I can only think of nootropics 17:48 < kanzure> arts.. like a field is an art 17:48 < accolade> oh wait, and then there's this cyborg stuff 17:49 < kanzure> there is not "hacking in bird watching" as far as i know- except there's often clever hacks to catch birds with cameras i guess; i don't mean to pick on bird watching 17:49 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/ 17:50 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@utdpat241069.utdallas.edu] has quit [Quit: Just going out for a swim...] 17:50 < ruphos> modifying $organism to produce something they don't normally, do things they don't normally, etc 17:50 < accolade> thanks kanzure 17:50 < accolade> *reading* 17:50 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:50 < accolade> ok, I think I'm getting the picture 17:51 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:51 < accolade> also like this glowing plant from kickstarter 17:51 < accolade> made with a gene gun I think 17:51 < kanzure> what about it. 17:51 < accolade> I would think it falls under biohacking 17:52 < accolade> probably that term DIYbio sums it up well 17:53 < accolade> ("hacking" had sounded somewhat more specific to me - rather directed at a specific purpose - like human improvement) 17:53 < ruphos> yup, although a bit of a boring implementation 17:53 < ruphos> some of it is, but not all 17:53 < accolade> how is a glowing plant poring :p 17:53 < kanzure> human improvement is usually termed transhumanism 17:54 < accolade> *boring 17:54 < kanzure> i don't think buying a glowing plant would be considered hacking, just like buying a normal plant isn't considered hacking 17:55 < ruphos> the amount of luminescence is extremely low 17:55 < accolade> nah, but making it 17:55 < curt1s> kanzure: have you written any essays on why not to go to school and what to do as an alternative 17:55 < accolade> or maybe making use of that gene gun thing. I think you could write an arbitrary text into its DNA 17:55 < kanzure> curt1s: no, but jrayhawk often has links handy that are compelling 17:55 -!- dantespeaks [~dantespea@184.175.19.183] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:55 < accolade> but that's not exactly DIY 17:56 < accolade> but seems hacky to me :) 17:56 < accolade> idk 17:56 < kanzure> accolade: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/ knock yourself out 17:57 < accolade> wall of pdf titles :o) 17:58 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:58 < accolade> ruphos, do you have one? 17:58 < accolade> glowing plant 17:58 < ruphos> no, they haven't even made it yet 17:58 < accolade> but you read they are not very light? 18:00 < accolade> hey another newb question - what's the "roadmap" in the channel name about? 18:00 < kanzure> a set of projects 18:00 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/declaration/ 18:01 < ruphos> accolade: the amount of expression you get + the amount of light emitted + the amount of material it has to glow through do not make for a very glowy plant 18:02 < accolade> I see (I guess) 18:02 < ruphos> I mean, if you turn all the lights out and do a long exposure you could probably get a pretty cool photo 18:02 < accolade> hmh, yeah :) 18:02 < ruphos> plants are not really my thing though 18:02 < ruphos> because boring 18:03 < accolade> gotcha 18:06 < dantespeaks> damn if only i could just work at home or something 18:06 < dantespeaks> i got no time to study and i really want to delve into my studies at this point. 18:07 < accolade> so you're loosing to much time commuting? 18:13 < curt1s> commuting is a huge waste of time 18:13 < curt1s> if youre traveling to sit in front of a computer 18:14 < curt1s> no reason you cant stay home to do the same 18:14 < dantespeaks> no not communting, spending time earning money. 18:15 < dantespeaks> i really envy those hollywood assholes. spending their time on drugs and drag racing. 18:15 < dantespeaks> *money 18:15 < kanzure> uh.. 18:16 < dantespeaks> if i had it secure - i wouldn't spend it that way 18:16 < ruphos> I'm in hollywood and I have neither drag racing nor drugs :( 18:16 < dantespeaks> actors/actresses some of them...... 18:16 < curt1s> heh 18:16 < curt1s> i lived in hollywood for a bit 18:16 < curt1s> i had plenty of drugs but no racing 18:17 < dantespeaks> justin bieber just came back to toronto turned himself in for assault. 18:17 < curt1s> i hope he experiences some consequences 18:17 < curt1s> for the first time in his life 18:17 < curt1s> not that i care about him personally but this is a common problem 18:17 < curt1s> affluenza or whatever you want to call it 18:18 < ruphos> s/affluenz/being a little bitch/ 18:18 < kanzure> who are you people and why are you talking about these things 18:18 < ruphos> because murica, boss 18:18 < dantespeaks> wrong channel to speak about these things, sorry. 18:19 < kanzure> huh? 18:19 < dantespeaks> looks like i have to get a loan from the government and get into school. 18:19 < dantespeaks> i f*kin hate school 18:20 < dantespeaks> i want to study alone. 18:20 < dantespeaks> but without the loan, you gotta get a job. and that is the dilemma. 18:21 < curt1s> well dantespeaks i work fulltime and also go to school 18:21 < curt1s> it fucking sucks 18:21 < curt1s> my idiot professors tell me to take out loans 18:21 < curt1s> all i can think is 18:21 < curt1s> go fuck yourself 18:21 < curt1s> privileged assholes 18:22 < kanzure> how does the ability to take out a loan make them privileged? 18:22 < dantespeaks> i cant possibly do that, work fulltime & go to school at the same time. what a determination 18:23 < curt1s> kanzure: not the ability to take out a loan. im sure i have that ability. pretty sure anyway. 18:23 < kanzure> so...? 18:23 < kanzure> sorry, i'm just not understanding 18:23 < curt1s> their privilege goes way beyond that 18:23 < dantespeaks> im thinking of copying health ingredients - put them in a bottle and sell them. if it's herbal, it's legal. 18:23 < dantespeaks> spam the heck out of the net.... 18:23 < gradstudentbot> Yeah, but his PI wrote his dissertation. 18:24 < curt1s> kanzure: it's that other people are invisible to such privileged fucks 18:24 < curt1s> the fact that i have to work 18:24 < curt1s> is like 18:24 < curt1s> foreign to them 18:24 < kanzure> has it occurred to you that he is also working? 18:24 < curt1s> of course they are 18:25 < dantespeaks> ah wishful thinking sigh... 18:25 < Lemminkainen> dantespeaks supplement insurance is not cheap 18:25 < Lemminkainen> if you're going to distribute in any meaningful volume, you'll need it 18:25 < dantespeaks> yeah i figure something like that, unless i take a significant risk i cant start it. 18:26 < Lemminkainen> from what I've heard of people engaged in such things, raw ingredients are fine to sell 18:26 < Lemminkainen> processed health stuff is more complicated 18:27 < dantespeaks> processed is highly priced though. raw ingredients dont make much money. it's the idea people buy. 18:27 < dantespeaks> the idea of processed supplement doing x and y etc. 18:27 < Lemminkainen> well is your raw ingredient rare or can you make a novel claim with it? 18:27 < dantespeaks> no, not that rare at all. all herbal. 18:28 < Lemminkainen> some herbs are rare 18:28 < Lemminkainen> for example, I can't just go buy powdered bacopa easily 18:28 < accolade> gradstudentbot, what's a PI? 18:28 < gradstudentbot> Someone stole my pipette. 18:28 < dantespeaks> im thinking in more like seaweed extracts. something easily acquired. 18:28 < kanzure> a PI is a private investigator 18:29 < Lemminkainen> Principle Investigator usually 18:29 < kanzure> wow why did i say private 18:29 < kanzure> it's obvious principle 18:29 < kanzure> *obviously 18:29 < Lemminkainen> your lurking paranoia is leaking, kanzure 18:29 < accolade> thanks 18:29 < dantespeaks> hahaha 18:29 < accolade> haha 18:29 < accolade> Wilhelm says hello 18:29 < Lemminkainen> hallo Wilhelm 18:29 < Lemminkainen> I don't know who Wilhelm is 18:29 < accolade> s/Wilhelm/Siegmund 18:30 < accolade> my bad 18:30 < Lemminkainen> es gibt's viele Wilhelmen und Siegmunden 18:30 < accolade> fürwahr 18:30 < dantespeaks> i wonder if you build a foundation in seychelles for diplomatic immunity, and say you did something REAL bad overseas, and there's a reasonable doubt that you didnt do it, 18:30 < Lemminkainen> ist dieser Siegmund jemand besonders, der wir kennenlernen sollen? 18:30 < accolade> actually, not that many Siegmunds anymore. The name is out of fashion 18:31 < dantespeaks> and i wonder if seychelles will still extradit you 18:31 < accolade> yeah, kanzure made a Freudian error - "Siegmund Freud", Lemminkainen 18:31 < Lemminkainen> but a Freudian error would be sexual 18:31 < accolade> sorry for the crypticism -.- 18:31 < Lemminkainen> like when you mean to say one thing but mean your mother 18:31 < accolade> oh, sure? 18:31 < Lemminkainen> *another 18:31 < dantespeaks> im currently watching the movie "se7ven" 18:31 < accolade> hahaha 18:32 < accolade> nice one 18:32 < accolade> pretty epic! :D 18:32 < curt1s> good movie 18:32 < Lemminkainen> dantespeaks on the Seychelles thing, you could look into their corpus of case law on the issue 18:32 < accolade> ^ @ Lemminkainen's mother 18:32 < dantespeaks> Lemmin: what does that do? 18:32 < dantespeaks> oh ok 18:32 < dantespeaks> sorry havent slept in a while 18:32 < accolade> Lemminkainen, I thought the Freudian was more general, but I'll look it up now 18:33 < dantespeaks> yeah, i wouldn't bother to look at it, it's not like i'd be commiting something 18:33 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:33 < Lemminkainen> dantespeaks it'll give you a good indication of whether they'd extradite you 18:33 < Lemminkainen> not a guarantee, though 18:33 < dantespeaks> cool 18:34 < dantespeaks> but i did think, that, since Seychelles "claims" to provide diplomatic immunity for a "mere" 10 mil, 18:34 < accolade> Lemminkainen, no it doesn't have to be sexual: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip 18:34 < Lemminkainen> oh, my bad 18:34 < dantespeaks> it would be greatest place to set up a foundation for evil geniuses. lol 18:34 < Lemminkainen> depends on what you're doing 18:35 < Lemminkainen> places like Costa Rica or Israel are actually fairly permissive about clinical trial set ups 18:36 < kanzure> ~!. 18:36 < kanzure> i wonder why ssh transmitted the ~. sequence 18:36 < kanzure> oh nevermind. extra character. 18:40 < accolade> dantespeaks, how would working at home give you more time to study? 18:40 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:40 < dantespeaks> well, besides the laboured hours spending on the work itself, it would still give me a piece of mind not to think about all that crap between people. 18:40 < dantespeaks> social stuff really just annoys me. 18:41 < accolade> "[02:09:45] curt1s: no reason you cant stay home to do the same" <- I guess that depends. Personally I am not like dantespeaks - I need a environment to work in to thrive. Otherwise I'm easily distracted and unmotivated 18:41 < accolade> dantespeaks, ah, I see 18:41 < dantespeaks> so it's more of a declaration of freedom rather than actual hours spent on labour. 18:41 < Lemminkainen> *decoration of freedom 18:41 < dantespeaks> yes sorry 18:41 < Lemminkainen> not actual freedom, but a fashionable bent to claiming more 18:42 < dantespeaks> indeeeed 18:42 < accolade> tough, one hears that modern working is more and more interconnected 18:42 < accolade> dantespeaks, nevertheless, I'm sure you can find something to get paid for from home 18:42 < dantespeaks> USA seems to be offering mechanical turk program for amazon--- wouldn't that be nice. lol 18:42 < accolade> coding, webdesign, consultation - maybe even on the topics you're passionate about? 18:43 < Lemminkainen> avoid Mech Turk unless you want to make average $4/hr 18:43 < accolade> hehe, it might be, but it's miserably paid I think. But there's e-Lancing websites 18:43 < accolade> still, you'd be competing with 3rd wold countries(' wages) 18:43 < dantespeaks> i dont think i have the required skill to perform the tasks they need. 18:43 < Lemminkainen> yep, you go on Odesk or Elance and you're bidding against teams of developers in the Philippines and Sri Lanka 18:44 < dantespeaks> so im screwed. im good at spamming though somewhat. 18:44 < dantespeaks> all i need is a product of my own. 18:44 < accolade> what a dark art 18:44 < Lemminkainen> sounds like you have a promising career in growth hacking 18:44 < dantespeaks> and im sure i can make it convert. scale. 18:44 < Lemminkainen> join one of those "food replacement" startups and sell, sell, sell 18:44 < dantespeaks> yes. it's an unfornate thing i learned... 18:44 < Lemminkainen> and look into Pfizer's Sales Bootcamp to learn the patterns 18:44 < dantespeaks> unfortunate 18:45 < dantespeaks> * 18:45 < dantespeaks> i know all about sales process, market research, keyword research and all that jazz but it really comes down to implementing, copywriting, and more importantly, your product. 18:45 < dantespeaks> i mean i could technically spam with affiliate products, 18:46 < Lemminkainen> oh ho you do now? 18:46 < dantespeaks> but everyone removes the cookies before they purchase. 18:46 < dantespeaks> Lemmin: i think so :P 18:46 < Lemminkainen> how would you sell lemons to a thirsty man? 18:47 < dantespeaks> but i will check into your reference ty 18:47 < dantespeaks> where is the lemonade stand? 18:47 < accolade> heh, interesting questions 18:47 < accolade> -s 18:47 < Lemminkainen> the lemonade stand is in Barrow 18:47 < Lemminkainen> in January 18:47 < dantespeaks> where is barrow? 18:47 < Lemminkainen> Alaska 18:48 < dantespeaks> i have no idea. i just know internet related stuff. 18:48 < dantespeaks> offline advertising... well, there's many ways. 18:48 < dantespeaks> lol 18:49 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@95.211.191.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:49 < accolade> maybe you could be a consultant for startups to peddle their offers online 18:50 < accolade> or any organizations, anyway 18:50 < dantespeaks> they always want something proved before being consulted. i need a certificate of some kind. 18:50 < accolade> can you get one? 18:50 < dantespeaks> i think i can barely pass 18:50 < dantespeaks> if i were to take it. yeah i guess thats a good idea 18:51 < dantespeaks> once thats done, i could consult i guess online. cheap or not. 18:51 < dantespeaks> hey thanks... 18:51 < dantespeaks> keep thinking in terms of product creation though 18:51 < dantespeaks> been reading this book hackers and painters. 18:51 < dantespeaks> says wealth could be something you build - obviously. 18:52 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@95.211.191.41] has quit [Changing host] 18:52 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:52 < dantespeaks> so i wonder if i grab a CNC machine of somekind go in the middle of the Rocky mountains of BC, and start cutting stones. into bricks and slabs. 18:52 < dantespeaks> will the stones than become a currency? can it go into trade? 18:53 < dantespeaks> yes :P 18:53 < dantespeaks> will advertising skills help in these sense. sure. 18:53 < dantespeaks> so i guess been thinking in terms of business, but i gotta understand my reality. 18:53 < dantespeaks> i hate working with people, so i dont want a job, and this stuff costs money and procedures. 18:54 < dantespeaks> so im screwed. heh 18:54 < Lemminkainen> no certificate 18:54 < Lemminkainen> build a strong portfolio of marketing successes where you've measured your ROI in $ 18:55 < dantespeaks> exactly, thats even harder! 18:55 < Lemminkainen> if you can prove a 3X increase in sales volume on your strategies, then you can pretty much demand any hourly rate you want 18:55 < Lemminkainen> even harder? 18:55 < Lemminkainen> no 18:55 < Lemminkainen> actually easier 18:55 < dantespeaks> thats what they want to see, but if i can do that, why would i be consulting for money in the first place. lol 18:55 < Lemminkainen> because it's cheaper than sitting around bitching 18:55 < dantespeaks> ah. right. ill stop bitchin and bickering 18:55 < dantespeaks> u r right. 18:56 < dantespeaks> this convo went on too long. nvm. 18:56 < Lemminkainen> doing is always cheaper than bitching 18:56 < Lemminkainen> and boredom is a choice 18:56 < dantespeaks> wise wise. hahaha 18:56 < dantespeaks> any idea how to sell guns? 18:57 < dantespeaks> or gun designs i mean 18:57 < Lemminkainen> be in the USA, first of all 18:57 < cpopell> dantespeaks: a few months ago I would have paid you commission to find me clients 18:57 < dantespeaks> guess Canada dont give a damn about firearms. 18:58 < dantespeaks> cpopell: and you got nothing now? 18:58 < Lemminkainen> cpopell is an exotic data dancer 18:58 < cpopell> dantespeaks: hibernating company and going back to work atm. 18:58 < dantespeaks> oh 18:58 < dantespeaks> wow, what a awesome term "data dancer" 18:59 < cpopell> that's not what I am, or was, but it is what I might be! 18:59 < dantespeaks> i guess thats how i play as well 18:59 < dantespeaks> well, you'll be needing it over and over again. 18:59 < Lemminkainen> it's how I viewed what you were doing, cpopell 19:00 < dantespeaks> power is in organization of data and it's exertion 19:00 < Lemminkainen> gyrating tech forecasts 19:00 < dantespeaks> cool 19:02 < dantespeaks> but ultimately, i think the fastest way is to just raise money for an idea 19:02 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:02 < dantespeaks> or a product of your creation or something 19:02 < dantespeaks> hey, thats not so bad of an idea i think i'll do that 19:02 < dantespeaks> any ideas what i should do? 19:02 < dantespeaks> write a children's novel? 19:02 < dantespeaks> i mean book? 19:02 < dantespeaks> graphic? 19:03 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:03 < Lemminkainen> lol that raising money for an idea is easy or fast 19:03 <@ParahSailin> kanzure: what chair do you use? 19:03 < kanzure> dantespeaks: http://goo.gl/u2O7tl 19:04 < gradstudentbot> We were out of the right dye, so I just used an equivalent. 19:05 < kanzure> ParahSailin: i don't know the name of what i'm sitting on 19:05 < kanzure> ParahSailin: all i know is that i regret not writing down the name of the greatest chair i once owned 19:05 < Lemminkainen> I'm sitting on a zafu 19:05 < gradstudentbot> Oh a sales rep? No, I'm not busy, sure I have time to talk. 19:05 < dantespeaks> wuw they had guns at that age 19:05 < Lemminkainen> highly recommended 19:06 < dantespeaks> what do you guys do for fitness? im growing overweight here lost my abs long ago 19:06 < Lemminkainen> squat 19:06 < dantespeaks> i guess thats one option. on the account of my vertigo, i dont think i can do that but... 19:07 < dantespeaks> i think i'll just walk outside for an hour or something. 19:07 < dantespeaks> kanzure: it's an interesting history 19:07 < Lemminkainen> squat & go for a walk 19:08 < Lemminkainen> put at least 100lb on your shoulders and sit down, then get back up 19:08 < gradstudentbot> Hey, does anyone have an extra undergrad? 19:08 < kanzure> your browser fringerprint matches the other user i banned can you plz just leave for good 19:09 < dantespeaks> 100lbs? wuw 19:10 < dantespeaks> what the are you speaking to me 19:11 < dantespeaks> i have no idea you never banned me but ill leave thats just fine. 19:12 < dantespeaks> "browser fingerprint" im not even using my pc. so whose fingerprint are you matching cool 19:20 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:20 < curt1s> lol browser fingerprint 19:21 < dantespeaks> this is like the 3rd time im picked on by kanzure 19:21 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:b2c0:ab00:5e6:fc5f:32db:aff5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:21 < dantespeaks> i dont even care anymore all i did was try to stay on topic 19:23 < curt1s> aw 19:23 < curt1s> kanzure has had this shitty attitude for at least the past few years ive idled in here, probably longer 19:24 < kanzure> curt1s: what if i'm right about him? 19:24 < kanzure> curt1s: you haven't even asked to see my evidence 19:24 < curt1s> no one cares and it's not clear what your problem is 19:25 < kanzure> if you knew who this guy is you would care 19:25 < curt1s> then let's hear it 19:25 < dantespeaks> who is the guy and why would anyone care about him? 19:25 < kanzure> i am just not interested in putting up with his shit 19:25 < kanzure> he keeps coming back year after year 19:25 < kanzure> british columbia, affiliate marketing, yadda yadda 19:25 < kanzure> keeps beliving i can revive his mother from the dead 19:25 < curt1s> you have to realize kanzure your behavior is consistently antisocial and paranoid 19:25 < dantespeaks> wtf 19:25 < curt1s> this sounds like crazy talk 19:26 < curt1s> im sorry you feel this way but no one sees what you see 19:27 < kanzure> pm 19:28 < dantespeaks> someone believes you can revive a mother from the dead?! 19:30 < kanzure> fuck now he is pming me 19:30 < kanzure> i was talking to curt1s 19:30 < kanzure> dantespeaks: do not pm me 19:30 < dantespeaks> ok 19:31 < dantespeaks> wuw this paranoia is alarming. im out of here. 19:31 < dantespeaks> but i dont understand how you would think this person is thinking about YOU when he's coming here. if he is, he's probably tagging along to learn something off the channel. 19:32 < dantespeaks> like this is something really self-centered. 19:32 < dantespeaks> egocentric reasoning. 19:33 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o kanzure] by ChanServ 19:33 < curt1s> okay dantespeaks 19:33 < curt1s> time to return your tray table to its upright and locked position 19:33 < curt1s> grab your shit and exit the vehicle 19:33 < dantespeaks> i have no idea what that means. 19:34 < curt1s> do you understand "gtfo" 19:34 < dantespeaks> jesus what the heck did i do to deserve this 19:34 < curt1s> because it is time 19:34 < dantespeaks> no no im leaving no problem with that 19:34 < accolade> that's not a reason 19:35 < dantespeaks> but i have no clue what this prejudice is about 19:35 < accolade> from an outside perspective it seems like you got infected by kanzure, haha ;) 19:35 < curt1s> heh don't worry accolade 19:35 < dantespeaks> i dont give a damn about kanzure 19:35 < curt1s> kanzure is right 19:36 < dantespeaks> this place really analyze data in such a way that it gives a person chance to uplift themselves using computing. 19:36 < accolade> curt1s, it's funny though that you asked kanzure about reasons, but now you don't give any yourself either 19:36 < curt1s> oh 19:36 <@kanzure> i provided evidence 19:36 < curt1s> i got reasons 19:36 < curt1s> :) 19:36 < dantespeaks> kanzure, can you share to me the evidence as well? 19:36 < accolade> kanzure, privately to curt1s? Because I didn't see any 19:36 < dantespeaks> im leaving any way, but i'd like to know what this is about. 19:37 < justanotheruser> wait, dantespeaks has been asking kanzure to bring his mother back from the dead? 19:37 < curt1s> lol 19:37 < dantespeaks> WHAT THE FUCK 19:37 < curt1s> wacky shit 19:37 < dantespeaks> thats insane! 19:37 < accolade> I'm also /kind of/ curious. But moreso my sense of judgment is tickled a bit here 19:37 < accolade> s/judgment/fairness 19:37 < justanotheruser> I'm looking back at my logs and kanzure seems to love to hate him, but doesn't kick him for some reason 19:37 < justanotheruser> (08:52:34 PM) kanzure: this is not acceptable behavior http://pastebin.com/1w1rbY92 19:37 < accolade> this was not a fair trial! :D 19:38 < dantespeaks> kanzure, can i have permission to pm you to end this once and for all? 19:39 < justanotheruser> I have a feeling this wont end this once and for all 19:39 < dantespeaks> screw it, ill let you know what im thinking. 19:41 < accolade> hahaha, that log is hilariously weird 19:42 < justanotheruser> dantespeaks: have you even been diagnosed with a mental/psychological disorder? 19:42 < justanotheruser> I thought you were just a really dedicated troll for a while. 19:42 < accolade> sorry if I'm kind of feeding the troll right there (o: 19:42 < dantespeaks> Nope, im not insane sorry. but I do joke around a lot. :P 19:43 < curt1s> you're out of your gourd 19:43 < curt1s> idgaf if you think you're joking 19:43 < Lemminkainen> from those logs, there is mention of the "transhumanist agenda" 19:43 < Lemminkainen> I wasn't aware we'd drafted such an agenda 19:43 < accolade> Lemminkainen, maybe this: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/declaration/ 19:44 < justanotheruser> heh 19:44 < Lemminkainen> that's a definition more than an agenda 19:44 < Lemminkainen> I'd be happy to host a Futurological Congress on the condition that the attendees not be sober 19:44 < accolade> maybe he means an implied agenda 19:44 < accolade> heh 19:44 < accolade> I'll happily take part 19:45 < accolade> are psychoactives offered on site or BYO? ;) 19:45 < Lemminkainen> I cannot comment on that in public 19:45 < dantespeaks> ok ive sent kanzure pm's. 19:45 < accolade> understood 19:45 < dantespeaks> that's the truth i have, and sent it. 19:46 < curt1s> dantespeaks: you should probably stop sending kanzure any messages 19:46 < curt1s> you've done enough 19:46 < Lemminkainen> however, such lovelies as DHEA, racetams, and L-theanines would be available 19:46 < accolade> :) 19:46 < dantespeaks> i can understand why kanzure have these views about me, he did have spoken to me during the times i was highly vulnerable. this doesn't mean it's about him. 19:46 < curt1s> oh boy 19:46 < curt1s> here we go 19:47 < dantespeaks> curt1s: agreed. looks like "i've done enough" 19:47 < dantespeaks> wow, i didnt expect something like this. what hostility. 19:47 < curt1s> you have indeed 19:47 < gradstudentbot> Can I borrow some sulphuric acid? 19:47 < justanotheruser> gradstudentbot: no 19:47 < gradstudentbot> That result wasn't repeatable. 19:48 < curt1s> it's not so much hostility as patience 19:48 < curt1s> you are being given the opportunity to leave voluntarily 19:48 < accolade> kanzure, curt1s: how about another chance? He seemed by all means reasonable today 19:48 < curt1s> but if you keep this up you will certainly be booted 19:48 < justanotheruser> curt1s: I kindof doubt that 19:48 < curt1s> well, it's not up to me 19:48 < curt1s> but if it were, 19:48 <@kanzure> it is hard to boot people because then people like curt1s claim i am paranoid and full of shit 19:48 < dantespeaks> hey, i can't be around a channel where the host thinks 1. i'm stalking him. 2. i have psychotic intentions thinking he can revive "my mother." 19:48 < curt1s> i would have b& ages ago 19:49 < curt1s> kanzure: i didn't know the history, obviously. once you told me i understood 100% 19:49 < accolade> and he just implied that he has changed state since earlier digressions 19:49 < Lemminkainen> kanzure if it makes you feel better I think everyone is full of shit, not just you 19:49 < dantespeaks> 3. yeah i joked around a little too much with abandon just because i thought i'd keep myself anonymous. but some things were obviously out of the line, and kanzure seems very alarmed. 19:49 < accolade> hehe 19:49 < justanotheruser> did dantespeaks ever claim kanzure could revive his mother? 19:49 < dantespeaks> no way 19:50 <@kanzure> Lemminkainen: it does 19:50 -!- nsh [~nsh@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:50 < accolade> why won't kanzure revive dantespeaks' mother? :( That seems mean 19:50 < dantespeaks> during the times that i lost my mom (yeah im coming out clean here) 19:50 < dantespeaks> i was in a hectic mode, i was panicking and going crazy 19:50 < accolade> dantespeaks, oops, sorry I joked about that v_v 19:50 < dantespeaks> so i was like searching for answers however i can 19:50 < Lemminkainen> we're not wizards 19:51 < dantespeaks> and by no means in hell, do i think kanzure, or ANYBODY in this planet is qualified to answer such things, or hold some kind of magical power 19:51 < dantespeaks> to revive my mom 19:51 < dantespeaks> ok? 19:51 < dantespeaks> lets get that clear sigh... 19:51 < curt1s> i hope you have a shrink to talk to 19:51 < accolade> cryopreservation would have been the way to go, given sufficient credit 19:52 < dantespeaks> yes my mom is cryopreserved. 19:52 < accolade> oh. Cool 19:52 < dantespeaks> during the times of which kanzure was there to actually support me - 19:52 < accolade> then I guess everything isn't that bad 19:52 < justanotheruser> ^ 19:52 < dantespeaks> (words/guidelines) 19:52 < Lemminkainen> whoa wait she's cryopreserved? that's neat 19:52 < Lemminkainen> how much of her is frozen? 19:52 < Lemminkainen> *vitrified 19:52 < accolade> yeah, I wanted to ask that too 19:52 < accolade> brain or whole body? 19:52 < dantespeaks> Lemmin. please watch how you say these things. 19:53 < dantespeaks> it tears me apart just to talk about her right now 19:53 < Lemminkainen> fuck, I'm a scientist and you expect me to not get excited by such things!? 19:53 < curt1s> what he really means is her head is in his freezer 19:53 < dantespeaks> but since kanzure seems like he's seriously alarmed of me being here, 19:53 < curt1s> fucking nutter 19:53 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+b dantespeaks!*@*] by kanzure 19:53 -!- dantespeaks was kicked from ##hplusroadmap by kanzure [dantespeaks] 19:53 < justanotheruser> :O 19:53 < accolade> curt1s, not funny 19:53 <@kanzure> definitely him 19:53 < justanotheruser> heh 19:53 < curt1s> accolade: enough is enough 19:53 < accolade> wow, now that seemed really uncalled for 19:53 <@kanzure> tbh i wasn't completely surely until he admitted it 19:53 < curt1s> it was definitely called for 19:54 < justanotheruser> kanzure: what did he admit? 19:54 < Lemminkainen> accolade time costs cash 19:54 < curt1s> okay everyone relax 19:54 < accolade> I hope you have very good 'sekr1t logs' to support this oppressive behaviour 19:54 < curt1s> kanzure had EVERY reason 19:54 < curt1s> to ban that creeper 19:54 < accolade> yeah you keep repeating that 19:54 < gradstudentbot> I wasn't able to find any references. 19:54 <@kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/juls3.txt 19:54 < curt1s> ^ 19:55 < justanotheruser> holy shit, that guy needs help :/ 19:55 < Lemminkainen> such monologue 19:55 < curt1s> no kidding 19:55 <@kanzure> it's been at least 4 years of this shit 19:55 < accolade> TL;DR - would you have a line I should jump to? Or a citation? 19:55 < curt1s> if you have been following at all 19:55 <@kanzure> nah it's one of those endless trolls 19:55 < accolade> that's long 19:55 < curt1s> you would recognize the speech patterns immediately 19:56 <@kanzure> but really, same browser fingerprint 19:56 <@kanzure> knows about xrumer 19:56 < accolade> admittedly I haven't, I just joined like yesterday 19:56 <@kanzure> lives in the same place 19:56 <@kanzure> same annoying bullshit 19:56 <@kanzure> cryopreserved mom 19:56 < Lemminkainen> there has got to be a better way to deal with H+ fanbois and fangirls 19:56 <@kanzure> come on, really? that's enough bits to narrow anyone down. 19:56 < Lemminkainen> we had to call the cops to remove one from our house recently 19:56 < accolade> yikes 19:57 <@kanzure> the number of people who think positive things about xrumer is extremely limited 19:57 <@kanzure> it's a terrible pile of crap (bad implementation) but also it's just spamware 19:57 <@kanzure> propagated by a very specific internet marketing/affiliate marketing community 19:57 < justanotheruser> kanzure: is his mom really crypreserved? 19:57 < accolade> I'm just confused that from all the reasons you say you have to ban him, you do it now, when he didn't seem problematic at all (to me) 19:58 < accolade> or wait, you had already banned him, right? 19:58 < accolade> and he circumvented it and you just recognized him 19:58 < justanotheruser> accolade: he banned him, but didn't in a really ineffective way 19:58 <@kanzure> justanotheruser: correct 19:58 < accolade> (except for the double negative) 19:58 <@kanzure> justanotheruser: yes he took out some money from a loan for the procedure 19:59 < justanotheruser> accolade: I mean did it, heh 19:59 <@kanzure> accolade: also correct.. 19:59 < accolade> cool 19:59 <@ParahSailin> who froze his mom? 19:59 < accolade> that that part isn't trolling 19:59 <@kanzure> accolade: it's very easy to circumvent irc bans. just get a different ip address. 19:59 < accolade> ParahSailin, dantespeaks (banned) 19:59 < accolade> kanzure, sure 19:59 <@kanzure> ParahSailin: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/juls3.txt 19:59 < Lemminkainen> MOTHERFUCKER OUR PAPER JUST GOT LEAKED 19:59 <@kanzure> ParahSailin: http://pastebin.com/1w1rbY92 20:00 <@kanzure> again i was a little on the fence about the evidence until he admitted it 20:00 <@kanzure> i appreciate him doing that, makes it way easier to deal with 20:01 < justanotheruser> He clearly either doesn't understand or care about messaging manners. (don't send 100 messages without a reply) 20:01 <@kanzure> it's part of a broader pathology that i don't completely understand 20:02 < justanotheruser> Is xrumor some SEO software? 20:02 < justanotheruser> *xrumer 20:02 < gradstudentbot> Is that published? 20:02 <@kanzure> yeah it's pretty poorly written seo software 20:02 <@kanzure> basic captcha stuff, has a list of a few million abandoned forums 20:03 <@kanzure> spammy stuff 20:03 < accolade> that sucks 20:03 <@kanzure> gradstudentbot: .add "MOTHERFUCKER OUR PAPER JUST GOT LEAKED" 20:03 < gradstudentbot> Yeah, I read the paper, I just don't remember the details. 20:03 < accolade> so gradstudentbot is actually a bot? 20:03 < gradstudentbot> Grant submitted. 20:03 <@kanzure> yes 20:04 <@kanzure> a hilarious bot 20:04 < accolade> gradstudentbot, what's your deal? 20:04 < gradstudentbot> Yeah, it should take me about 2 days. 20:04 < accolade> gradstudentbot, to do what? 20:04 < gradstudentbot> Sorry for wasting your time. 20:04 < accolade> gradstudentbot, no sweat 20:04 < gradstudentbot> Oh yeah, isn't that already a part on the biobrick registry? 20:04 <@kanzure> i think it might be.. they have no ecoli smell in the biobrick registry, probably no sweat too. 20:05 < accolade> heh 20:05 <@kanzure> accolade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovEghdXC4tE 20:05 < justanotheruser> kanzure: you have a lot of patience. Why wasn't he kicked 4 years ago? 20:06 <@kanzure> he most certainly was 20:07 <@kanzure> it is easy to get a new ip address 20:07 <@kanzure> he is still pming me 20:07 < justanotheruser> oh wow 20:08 < Vutral> hm 20:09 < justanotheruser> String that he came to someone running a science related channel to help him with money laundering 20:09 < justanotheruser> *strange 20:10 <@kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/juls4.txt 20:10 < Vutral> just studying membrane coupled transporters ^^ 20:11 < justanotheruser> his pathology may be based on the incorrect belief that he's going to become a multimillionaire (04:50:02 PM) Juyun Kim: 100 million in short time.. 20:11 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@rrcs-50-84-151-141.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:11 < Lemminkainen> whew, contained 20:12 < Lemminkainen> fun fact: it is a gaping dick move to share a pre-publication paper without permission 20:12 < accolade> kanzure, heh @ vid 20:12 < cpopell> Lemminkainen: Ligandal paper? 20:13 < accolade> "do you think I could get, like, Saturday off?" haha classic :D 20:13 < Vutral> pathology ? 20:13 < Vutral> money is meaningless in the future ^^ 20:14 <@kanzure> 20:10 all i'm saying is. KEEP YOUR FANTASY TO YOURSELF and STOP telling people i'm nuts, ok? i'm more sane than you probably. 20:14 <@kanzure> btw i don't care that any of you are nuts 20:15 < Lemminkainen> cpopell yep 20:15 < Vutral> i think i am a bit polymorphic 20:15 < Lemminkainen> Vutral that's nice but we're not in the future yet 20:15 < Vutral> but the only nuts i see is those i eat 20:16 < cpopell> prepping for next wednesday 20:16 < Vutral> sadly not, yes, Lemminkainen 20:16 < Lemminkainen> it must be nice to see roses all the time 20:16 < Vutral> or maybe for me it isnt so bad ^^ 20:16 < Lemminkainen> don't let curt1s get after you about privilege 20:17 <@kanzure> he has a privilege about underprivileging 20:17 < Vutral> hm 20:17 <@kanzure> i can't troll him effectively about it 20:17 < Lemminkainen> you can tease him about martyrdom 20:17 <@kanzure> go on 20:17 < cpopell> someone competing in the privilege olympics? 20:17 < Vutral> i want flowers too 20:17 < Vutral> i only see microbes 20:17 < Vutral> privilege olympics ? 20:17 < Vutral> are there privilege paralympics ? 20:18 < cpopell> who knows. 20:18 < Vutral> underprivileged i guess 20:18 < Lemminkainen> self-inflicted martyrdom is a popular past-time, kanzure 20:18 < Lemminkainen> how can you not know that? 20:18 < Lemminkainen> haven't we spent enough time and love and effort trying to show you your own oppressive ways!? 20:18 < Vutral> well rat maze tests dont care about privileged or not 20:19 < Lemminkainen> step off my dick so I can show you the world, yo 20:19 < Vutral> ^^ 20:19 < Vutral> Lemminkainen, you are ok ? 20:19 < Lemminkainen> I'm great 20:19 < Lemminkainen> thanks for inquiring 20:20 < Vutral> i just check who might get insane 20:20 < Vutral> dont take it as social behaviour ^^ 20:21 <@kanzure> what? 20:21 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [-o kanzure] by kanzure 20:21 < Vutral> its so early 20:22 < Vutral> whats on topic 20:22 < kanzure> Lemminkainen: any other ideas for gradstudentbot? 20:22 < gradstudentbot> I don't think our fume hood is safe. 20:23 < Vutral> gradstudentbot, you will die 20:23 < gradstudentbot> She keeps talking about her Nature paper, but she was only third author. 20:23 < Vutral> you like the ensigns in startrek gradstudentbot 20:23 < gradstudentbot> Future work will focus on that. 20:24 < Lemminkainen> kanzure "when is the lab happy hour again?" 20:24 < Lemminkainen> "I'm worried about my quals" 20:24 < kanzure> oh shit, quals 20:24 < kanzure> i don't have anything about quals in there 20:24 < Vutral> lol 20:24 < Lemminkainen> "maybe if I increase the size of my experimental groups I can get statistical significance" 20:25 < kanzure> "so my p value is 1?" 20:25 < Vutral> "my coed is really irritating me" 20:25 < Lemminkainen> hahaha 20:25 < Lemminkainen> "it's not me, my pipettes need to be calibrated" 20:25 < Vutral> "a coed drank all solvents of the lab now i need to do buy new" 20:26 < Vutral> yeah 20:26 < Lemminkainen> where do you live that you call labmates "coeds", Vutral ? 20:26 < Vutral> coeducated ^^ 20:26 < Vutral> oh thats slang ^^ 20:27 <@ParahSailin> coed is anglo for female college student 20:27 < Vutral> lol 20:27 < Vutral> ^^ 20:27 < Vutral> it comes from coeducated :P 20:27 < Vutral> do you meet ""angelo"" often ? 20:30 < kanzure> uh 20:30 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:31 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:33 * Vutral seeks some macadamia 20:33 < justanotheruser> Sorry if this is off topic, but I'm still reading those logs. (12:24:52 AM) Juyun Kim: Will also be buying f650 supertruck probably going to be modded as a mobile data communication center of sort. And just a normal vehicle. 20:33 < justanotheruser> He thinks he's going to buy a $100k car O_o 20:34 < Lemminkainen> isn't that what all Canadians drive? 20:34 < justanotheruser> right after he builds a $3m hackerspace 20:34 < Lemminkainen> I've always pictured an entire frigid nation full of SUVs and roads and no buildings except gas stations 20:34 < justanotheruser> and he's going to park it inside the hackerspace? 20:35 < Vutral> hm 20:35 < Vutral> is he from north korea ? 20:35 < Vutral> maybe he gets it sponsored 20:35 < Vutral> ^^ 20:35 < Vutral> in china they probably got a clone 20:35 < kanzure> no he's from south korea 20:36 < justanotheruser> (02:59:44 PM) Juyun Kim: Thinking about making a thesis or something in synthetic biology and get a honorary degree phd or something 20:36 < Lemminkainen> yeah, he can do that in just a few weeks 20:36 < Lemminkainen> synthbio is easy 20:36 < justanotheruser> oh yeah, I'm just going to make a few million then get an honorary PhD 20:36 < Lemminkainen> that's why Draper Fisher Jurvetson has poured so much $ into it 20:36 < justanotheruser> This guy seems to be in a completely different world 20:36 < Vutral> canadias 20:36 < Vutral> if you wanna build a house you get 3 beavers ^^ 20:37 < Vutral> they build it for you 20:37 < justanotheruser> and after that he's going to team up with kanzure who hasn't responded to his last 200 messages 20:37 < Vutral> hm ^^ 20:37 < kanzure> more like 4000 messages 20:37 < Vutral> i think if i anyone in northkorea got internet he wont tell ^^ 20:38 < justanotheruser> (10:35:48 PM) Juyun Kim: The thing is this. The H+, foresight, immortalist, transhumanist, all the life extension related activities are not funded because the public conception is simply impossible. And im the direct link between these people and.l to the politicians and billionaires. Somehkw it happened this way.... 20:39 < Vutral> now i am keen he proves his link 20:39 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:39 < Vutral> ^^ 20:39 < Lemminkainen> oh, then why am I fundraising for a biotech? 20:39 < kanzure> Vutral: i don't think you are able to read 20:39 < Lemminkainen> I should have just applied to the Juyun Kim Institute and gotten our lab going MONTHS ago 20:40 < justanotheruser> somehow he's a millionaire SEO genius who will be building a hackerspace which will house his luxury car, at the same time he is the link between billionaires and politicians and will save us from death. 20:40 < Lemminkainen> holy fuck he's Jesus 20:40 < Vutral> kanzure, i just need time to wake up completly 20:41 < Vutral> Lemminkainen, he got a cassandra complex? 20:41 < Lemminkainen> what? 20:41 < kanzure> thinking about kicking Vutral too 20:42 < Vutral> the greek mythologicla story 20:42 < Lemminkainen> you'll have to be a mite more specific than that, them Greeks had a lot of stories and cheese 20:43 < Vutral> cassandra knew the future but couldnt change it 20:45 < Lemminkainen> bullshit 20:45 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:45 < Lemminkainen> we all know the future and CAN change it if we get off our fucking asses 20:46 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:46 < justanotheruser> kanzure: do you still work on skdb? 20:46 < kanzure> i consider python-brlcad to be related at the moment 20:46 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/python-brlcad 20:47 < justanotheruser> kanzure: So will this be a component of skdb? 20:47 < kanzure> having an easy way to represent and manipulate geometry can be very helpful towards packaging hardware up 20:48 < kanzure> skdb suffers from some monolithic architecture issues 20:48 < kanzure> realistically skdb is best used as fodder for when designing an actual hardware package management system 20:50 < justanotheruser> kanzure: You mean a proof of concept? 20:50 < kanzure> it is not much of a proof! :) 20:50 < kanzure> aptitude/apt-get and the debian package infrastructure is a much better proof of concept 20:51 < kanzure> http://gnusha.org/skdb/package_spec.html 20:54 < justanotheruser> kanzure: in my opinion, the most important thing skdb would do is force people to put together enough information to complete the project in an organized fashion. 20:55 < justanotheruser> the organized fashion is describing the way the package is made 20:56 < kanzure> someone was trying to convince me that thingdoc was sufficient but i am not convinced 21:00 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@pool-108-39-210-212.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:12 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.121.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:13 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:14 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:29 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:30 -!- lupfantomo [~lupfantom@24-159-24-229.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:33 * juri_ hugs Lemminkainen. 21:34 < juri_> keep fighting for people to get off their asses. please. 21:35 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:36 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:37 < juri_> and, if anyone has a good position for an all around walks-on-water hacker (with delusions of competency) in boston, drop me a line. ;P 21:37 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:38 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:44 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@95.211.138.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:44 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:44 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:44 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@95.211.138.33] has quit [Changing host] 21:44 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:46 < cpopell> I'm in DC, Lemmin is in SF, Kanz is in...Texas? 21:46 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:47 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:47 < kanzure> yes i am presently in austin, texas 21:47 < kanzure> oh for boston, uh.. 21:47 -!- ParahSailin [~parahsail@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 21:48 -!- justanotheruser1 [~justanoth@50.121.121.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:48 < kanzure> avery (bosslab) might not walk on water but he probably knows someone who does 21:48 < cpopell> I can hook you up with some guys working on NGSS at harvard but that's about it 21:48 < cpopell> ...and that's only cuz chevrm isn't on here himself 21:48 < justanotheruser> kanzure: will you be going to the bitcoin conference in austin texas? 21:48 < kanzure> streety: are you still in boston? 21:48 < kanzure> justanotheruser: yes 21:49 < justanotheruser> kanzure: are you going to the hackathon? 21:49 < kanzure> yes 21:49 < kanzure> although i might leave if it's too bullshit 21:49 < justanotheruser> kanzure: cool, I might see you there 21:49 < kanzure> let me know if you need a place to stay. extra room/bathroom. 21:49 < Lemminkainen> I don't know anything about opportunities in Boston 21:49 < Lemminkainen> it's a giant black box to me right now 21:49 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@pool-108-39-210-212.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:50 < justanotheruser> kanzure: I really appreciate the offer. I will let you know if I can't find anything 21:50 < Lemminkainen> SF, of course, is currently in love with the idea of competent walks-on-water hackers 21:50 < delinquentme> so if I want to find information on who the major beneficiaries of intel are ... what should I be googling? 21:50 < kanzure> i promise you i will only insist you write a little bit of code, instead of an overwhelming lot of code 21:50 < cpopell> delinquentme: Uh, you mean the biggest funds investing in them? 21:51 < delinquentme> cpopell, thatll do 21:51 < Lemminkainen> delinquentme just figure out who Gordon Moore's mistresses are 21:51 < cpopell> http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/intc/ownership-summary 21:51 < cpopell> c'mon bro :P 21:52 < delinquentme> cpopell, thanks :D 21:52 < cpopell> out of curiosity man 21:53 < cpopell> you post about all sorts of shit on fb 21:53 < cpopell> what do you like 21:53 < cpopell> actually 21:53 < cpopell> ...do? 21:53 < delinquentme> pick my nose 21:53 < cpopell> ...and hit on girls while they're with their boyfriends. you know what I mean :P 21:54 < delinquentme> Oh which chicks am I hitting on? 21:55 < delinquentme> So intel is mostly owned in capital investments ... so I guess thats to be expected 21:55 < gradstudentbot> Okay, someone really needs to do the lab dishes. 21:55 < delinquentme> IDK I got into this thought a second ago of " what company do I actually want to work with " 21:56 < kanzure> i heard of an interesting fellow the other day who picks companies to work for solely based on whether or not they are experiencing a flash drop in their stock price 21:57 < kanzure> for example, he joined netflix when they tried to split physical dvds into a separate business. the stock tanked, he joined, got a stock grant relative to the current price at the time. 21:58 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59 -!- rayston [~rayston@ip68-106-242-42.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:02 < delinquentme> kanzure, I like the idea ... Though might not get you the exact companies you want to work with 22:03 < delinquentme> But cool resume addition 22:06 -!- top4o [~chatzilla@93-152-180-149.ddns.onlinedirect.bg] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:07 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:b2c0:ab00:5e6:fc5f:32db:aff5] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:30 -!- delinquentme [~asdfasdf@pool-108-39-210-212.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:31 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:32 -!- RnD [RnD@198-84-202-22.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:26 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:32 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@rrcs-50-84-151-141.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Just going out for a swim...] 23:50 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:52 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:52 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:54 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:55 < Lemminkainen> I was figuring that there'd've been some sort of amazing and profound thing happened while I was afk designing some immunology 23:55 < Lemminkainen> but noooooo 23:55 < Lemminkainen> y'all're sture 23:56 < cpopell> I'm studying for my interview, dick. 23:56 < Lemminkainen> less studying terms, go find an OS system of those protocols, get it set up 23:56 < Lemminkainen> then break it and figure out how to fix it 23:57 < accolade> so.. what's the state of the art in h+ and biohacking - is there any relatively new technology available which I could apply to improve my life (and thus indirectly others')? 23:57 < cpopell> they list 4-6 operating systems, 12 languages, and 3-4 protocols 23:57 < Lemminkainen> you'll probably find it easier to do all of that if you create a VM for Linux 23:57 < Lemminkainen> yep, that's about right 23:57 < Lemminkainen> go implement and break them 23:57 < cpopell> If being decent at that is what they're hiring for, I'm screwed. 23:58 < cpopell> I'm taking the advice of a guy who hires systems engineers I was chatting with 23:58 < Lemminkainen> you're going to understand the nuances of a system without having broken and fixed it? 23:58 < cpopell> no, I'm just not going to have that understood in the next few days 23:58 < accolade> haha @ yoleaux - nice nick 23:58 < Lemminkainen> accolade sprints, squats, brotein 23:59 < accolade> hah @ brotein 23:59 < accolade> those are not new at all, but maybe that condition wasn't so sensible anyway 23:59 < accolade> thanks for the advice :) --- Log closed Fri Jan 31 00:00:06 2014