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06:22 < kanzure> ParahSailin: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,48.0.html
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08:05 < FourFire> Hello
08:05 < FourFire> Has anyone here read http://www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm, and if so how hard is it?
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08:21 < kanzure> ryan is working at a cro now
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08:26 < FourFire> kanzure, a what?
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08:31 < kanzure> contract research organization
08:31 < kanzure> these are the companies that do all the legwork of biotech companies
08:32 < curt1s> ah nice
08:32 < curt1s> doin science
08:32 < kanzure> what?
08:34 < kanzure> i highly doubt it
08:34 < kanzure> and i don't know why you would say that anyway
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08:37 < ParahSailin> who was the one who wanted to go to colombia? http://www8.gsb.columbia.edu/programs-admissions/sites/programs-admissions/files/images/employment_report_2012_addendum.pdf
08:38 < curt1s> not me
08:38 < curt1s> although i do like wandering around their campus late at night
08:38 < kanzure> it was drazak
08:38 < kanzure> drazak: you
08:38 < curt1s> it is pretty
08:39 < curt1s> business school though?
08:40 < curt1s> -_-
08:40 < kanzure> you are upset that ParahSailin linked to a business school site?
08:40 < curt1s> im not upset
08:40 < kanzure> you are disappointed?
08:41 < curt1s> bemused
08:42 < curt1s> anecdotally i will tell you the columbia MBAs are the most self righteous of all nyc college students i have encountered
08:47 < ParahSailin> they think they have home court advantage getting into the banks, but actually harvard beats them
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08:59 < curt1s> im not sure anyone has home court advantage here
09:00 < curt1s> doctors maybe
09:00 < curt1s> go to nyu or columbia med school, work at their hospitals
09:02 < curt1s> plus once you are financially indebted to them, they can earn your own money back to them by way of your salary
09:02 < curt1s> it's the circle of life
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09:17 < drazak> ParahSailin: why would I ever care about that document
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09:17 < ParahSailin> just trolling
09:18 < delinquentme> Anyone else in here read this thing about the sugar batteries?
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09:19 < delinquentme> Is it a thing that anyone in academia just has more than enough talent to already do the work they need?
09:19 < delinquentme> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/175137-sugar-powered-biobattery-has-10-times-the-energy-storage-of-lithium-your-smartphone-might-soon-run-on-enzymes
09:19 < ParahSailin> sugar batteries is just microbial fuel cell im pretty sure
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09:20 < delinquentme> enzymatic fuel cell
09:20 < ParahSailin> i dont think theyve put together an abiotic cocktail of enzymes to do the same yet
09:20 < delinquentme> yeah :D its abiotic
09:20 < ParahSailin> enzymes go bad really fast
09:20 < ParahSailin> at room temp
09:21 < delinquentme> look at the energy density though!
09:21 < ParahSailin> im probably going to regret clicking on this
09:21 < delinquentme> 10x lithium
09:22 < delinquentme> So the gist of the question is " How do I get in on this " ... aside from studying bioengineering @ V tech + speaking mandarin
09:23 < ParahSailin> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fncomms4026
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09:25 < ParahSailin> hm, they used thermophile enzymes
09:25 < ParahSailin> yeah, taq will only lose about half its strength if you leave it out over a weekend
09:26 < ParahSailin> i dont doubt that they made a fuel cell that lasts long enough to write the paper
09:28 < ParahSailin> its possible that the main economic bottleneck is the nafion
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09:33 < delinquentme> The paper mentions issues of enzyme exposure + why they went with free floating
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09:33 < delinquentme> Why not just bind the enyzmes + filter through capillary beds?
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09:41 < ParahSailin> because you want to be able to reload enzyme and fuel at the same time
09:41 < ParahSailin> because hopefully you will burn your fuel before you burn your enzyme
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09:59 < chris_99> http://www.darpa.mil/OpenCatalog/index.html
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13:27 < delinquentme> kanzure, do you have any actively running applications right now? And whos cheaper than EC2 that you'd host with?
13:30 < kanzure> i have many running web applications that i almost all regret completely
13:30 < kanzure> at the moment i would have to say my best hosting agreement is with jrayhawk
13:32 < kanzure> i think people use digitalocean or rackspace or linode these days but whatever
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13:58 < chris_99> linode is pretty good if you want a VPS
13:59 < chris_99> i use hetzner now, as i wanted xen though
14:21 < delinquentme> http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2014/02/cryptography-breakthrough/
14:21 < delinquentme> someone get me a working piece of code foar this
14:21 < delinquentme> plez
14:21 < delinquentme> PLEZ.
14:22 < chris_99> oh i've got a paper on that i've been meaning to read
14:22 < chris_99> if you google garbled circuits, theres a thesis on it
14:23 < chris_99> im sure it'll be amazingly widely used in future
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15:12 < heath> i use linode, and this is a terrible waste of money
15:13 < chris_99> what's a terrible was of money?
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16:03 < kanzure> microryza has rebranded itself as experiment.com haha
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16:04 < kanzure> it's totally backwards anyway
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16:04 < kanzure> microryza was never able to attract enough users to raise lots of funding for the projects
16:05 < kanzure> expecting the "crowd" to fund your arcane project is really a boring idea
16:05 < kanzure> now, if you could do that inside of a giant pharmaceutical company, you have something a bit better
16:05 < kanzure> but most projects in biotechs already have budgets in the first place
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16:56 < heath> paperbot is down
16:56  * heath cries
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17:04 < jrayhawk> wait we have an agreement
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17:05 < kanzure> http://algorithmia.com/ "open marketplace for algorithms" sounds like a disease
17:05 < kanzure> hrmm "Sharing source code is great, sharing a fully functioning service is even better. Algorithmia allows you to upload your code, and instantly make it available as a REST API for the world to use."
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17:21 < kanzure> but then what if i need 10000000 calls to a function per second
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17:40 < heath> doubt this is going to work
17:40 < heath> paperbot: http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/asp/jctn/2012/00000009/00000010/art00023
17:40 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a9ef962b737f00c29b08aa5a1f41018f.txt
17:40 < heath> womp womp
17:48 < heath> paperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ac403661z
17:48 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Molecular%20Logic%20Gates%20on%20DNA%20Origami%20Nanostructures%20for%20MicroRNA%20Diagnostics.txt
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18:12 < pasky> kanzure: then you need a more encompassing algorithm ;)
18:16 < pasky> (not that i'd think the idea is going to be very successful)
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18:43 < cpopell> Anyone remember the name of the emotiv software that showed like a 'heatmap' of the brain?
18:45 < cpopell> nvm found it
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21:36 < kanzure> "captain future"
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21:36 < kanzure> juul: hi what is up with counter culture labs?
21:37 < kanzure> oh, auto irc quit
21:37 < juul> hrm, my weechat session died and i had to restart it
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21:38 < juul> kanzure: haven't been to a meeting for a few weeks. i've been working on the desktop biolab prototypes though
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21:39 < juul> working on a simple alternative to the lightbulb pcr (similar complexity, better performance) and a different pcr design for small-scale production
21:39 < Lemminkainen> kanzure Berkeley Biolabs ate CCL
21:39 < juul> hehe, not true
21:39 < Lemminkainen> aww, I know, but it's a better story that way
21:40 < juul> they are separate and have little overlap in leadership
21:40 < juul> what've you been up to kanzure
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21:46 < kanzure> juul: bitcoin things
21:48 < juul> kanzure: ah
21:49 < kanzure> yeah i think Lemminkainen's story is better
21:49 < kanzure> let's just use that one
21:50 < kanzure> juul: are you still in the area? ParahSailin is visiting tomorrow.
21:50 < juul> yeah i'm in oakland
21:50 < kanzure> ParahSailin: you should meet juul
21:50 < juul> i'm at sudo room from around 3 pm tomorrow
21:50 < juul> feel free to stop by and say hi
21:50 < ParahSailin> my tomorrow is filled
21:51 < juul> ok
21:51 < kanzure> btw if these jerks don't actually commit to a scheduled time let me know
21:51 < kanzure> and i will send more hate mail
21:52 < ParahSailin> well the iontorrent guy is
21:52 < ParahSailin> dont think anyone else responded
21:52 < kanzure> dave did
21:52 < ParahSailin> ah right
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21:53 < ParahSailin> should i rent a car?
21:54 < ParahSailin> or is the transit system functional there
21:55 < kanzure> uber/lyft
21:56 < ParahSailin> thats the best way to cover ground?
21:57 < kanzure> well i certainy like it. bart works fine. caltrain too. but why bother.
22:26 < kanzure> is this suspicious? https://blockchain.info/block-index/465733/00000000000000004312a0e1420ef18fe99d6dca9b2f2651cff987691f57acb3
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