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it? 09:17 <@kanzure> it's the same thing 09:17 <@kanzure> http://synbioaxlr8r.com/ 09:17 < heath> ah 09:17 < cluckj> neat 09:19 < cluckj> I wish I could go and hang out with those folks while they are working :x 09:20 < heath> surely someone would be willing to start a google hangout 09:21 <@kanzure> ugh you're one of those fuckers 09:21 <@kanzure> why not just any video stream whatsoever. why does it have to be google hangout. 09:23 < cluckj> lol 09:24 < cluckj> telepresence wouldn't do it for me 09:25 < heath> i'm not partial to one or the other, and i'd prefer something which is completely open source. google hangouts is something that almost everyone is familiar with 09:26 < cluckj> I'll see if someone will pay me to go study them 09:29 < heath> one or the other closed source webrtc based chatting services* 09:29 < heath> k 09:29 < heath> back to work 09:29 < ParahSailin> why even video stream 09:40 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@c-98-225-143-81.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:47 < cluckj> who knows 09:49 <@kanzure> why even be here? who are you people. 09:50 < cluckj> there are people here?! I thought it was just gradstudentbot and me 09:50 < gradstudentbot> If I was your endoplasmic reticulum, would you want me smooth or would you want me rough? 09:55 < eudoxia> gradstudentbot needs to stop doing that joke 09:55 < gradstudentbot> Someone stole my pipette. 09:55 < eudoxia> :c 09:56 < cluckj> :< 10:07 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-20-206.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:14 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:14 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:16 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:43 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-54-211-228-197.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:43 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-204-216-203.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:03 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-78-149-128-69.as13285.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:03 < nmz787> kanzure: this may interest you http://www.avs.org/Chapters/Pacific-Northwest/Technical-Resourses 11:03 < nmz787> (the ISO vocab) 11:03 <@kanzure> wish i could get a dump of all iso specs :( 11:04 < nmz787> dang with the vocab in here, gradstudentbot would sound like some genius 11:04 < gradstudentbot> Coffee? Never tried it. 11:05 < nmz787> 'angle, magic' 11:05 < nmz787> angle at which the spectrometer entrance axis is aligned at 54,7 to the direction of the X-rays at 11:05 < nmz787> the sample surface 11:06 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-173-66-15-196.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:07 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-173-66-15-196.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:37 < chris_99> nmz787, did you play with that ARM MCU btw? i've just been looking at some STM boards, albeit without the fancy ADC 11:38 < nmz787> yeah started to 11:38 < nmz787> played with the LabTool code (gui and firmware source and binaries are provided) 11:38 < nmz787> got the blinky light demo running 11:39 < chris_99> :) 11:39 < nmz787> scoured the internet like crazy for all info and helped out on some forum posts on lpcware.com 11:39 < nmz787> haven't had time to actually hack on it more though 11:39 < nmz787> the ADC has something like a 0.2 to 0.8 V input range 11:40 < nmz787> and the video ADC I'm using for my spectrometer has a weird input range too 11:40 < nmz787> so I've been studying op-amps and parts and circuits for scaling and offsetting signals 11:40 < chris_99> ah interesting, that does sound an odd range 11:41 < chris_99> i assume it's got a PGA on it? 11:43 < nmz787> ermmh I can't remember 11:43 < nmz787> maybe not 11:43 < nmz787> the spectrometer one does 11:43 < nmz787> also programmable offset 11:44 < nmz787> the llpc chip seems like the best bang for buck, unless you specifically need something super-cheap or 'low-power' 11:44 < chris_99> just been looking at this one myself http://uk.farnell.com/stmicroelectronics/stm32f429i-disco/stm32f4-discovery-eval-board/dp/2355377 11:44 < nmz787> I have a teensy 3.1 as well 11:46 < nmz787> yeah i looked at the F4 series 11:46 < chris_99> how much flash does yours have? as they have 2M 11:46 < chris_99> *2MB 11:47 < nmz787> futureelectronics is also a source, they seem to have EU distribution 11:48 < nmz787> hmm, lemme lok 11:48 < nmz787> i was more interested in SRAM size 11:48 < chris_99> the cool thing about that dev board is it's got 8MB RAM in addition to the MCUs 11:49 < nmz787> 8M 11:49 < nmz787> http://www.adafruit.com/datasheets/W25Q80BV.pdf 11:49 < nmz787> no that 8M is flash 11:49 < nmz787> there is 282kb SRAM 11:49 < chris_99> i mean the LPC chip, how much flash does that have? 11:50 < nmz787> yea 11:50 < nmz787> that's what i'm talking about 11:50 < chris_99> 8M on the chip itself? 11:50 < gradstudentbot> When is he back from sabbatical? 11:50 < nmz787> it has 282 kb SRAM internally, no flash internally, though it has a SPI flash accellerator 11:50 < chris_99> oh 11:50 < nmz787> and the LPC LINK 2 board has an 8M chip on it 11:50 < nmz787> which is the part I linked to at adafruit 11:51 < nmz787> 8M bit dual/quad SPI flash 11:51 < chris_99> ah ok, so the one i'm looking at have 2MB flash, and 8MB external SRAM, in addition to ~200kB internal RAM 11:52 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@rrcs-50-84-151-141.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:53 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@rrcs-50-84-151-141.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:53 < nmz787> mm, after starting development with the Parallax Propeller, I really got to liking multicore dev, so that's one reason the lpc chip is also interesting to me 11:53 < nmz787> it's a triple-core 11:54 < chris_99> oh yeah i forgot about that 11:54 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@rrcs-50-84-151-141.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:54 < chris_99> is that easy to use 11:54 < nmz787> the Propeller is certainly a lot easier to get up and running, but the lpc chip knocks its socks off performance-wise if you are data-crunching 11:57 < nmz787> plus it has built-in high-speed USB 2.0, which negates needing an external USB chip like an FTDI 11:57 < nmz787> and can hook up to a relatively cheap ethernet PHY 11:57 < nmz787> (though that is a whole new can of development worms) 11:58 < chris_99> i presume the stm can do HS USB too, at least it better had 11:58 < nmz787> and I have only dreamed of doing ethernet dev, though lpc also has some IP stack libraries 11:58 < nmz787> a lot of those need a HS PHY 11:58 < nmz787> I can't remember what they call the intermediary signalling between the controller and the PHY 11:59 < chris_99> i've done usb before, not hs though 11:59 < nmz787> but it's another part (the lpc has 2 USB 2.0 HS controllers, but only 1 PHY built-in... meaning you're limited to USB 2.0 normal if you don't add another external HS PHY) 11:59 < nmz787> (on the one port) 11:59 < chris_99> ah 11:59 < gradstudentbot> I haven't seen my PI in like a week. 12:00 < nmz787> (the other with built in HS PHY works out of box for 480 MBPS) 12:00 < chris_99> wow 12:00 < chris_99> is there a dev board for that one 12:00 < nmz787> yeah 12:00 < nmz787> lpc link 2 12:01 < nmz787> and also the LabTool is like 100 euros 12:01 < nmz787> www.embeddedartists.com/products/lpcxpresso/lpclink2.php 12:01 < nmz787> www.embeddedartists.com/products/app/labtool.php 12:01 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:01 < nmz787> I don't have the LabTool, but I got the firmware running on the link2 and got the GUI running as well, talking to my link2 I flashed 12:01 < chris_99> oh heh i've not sen the labtool one 12:02 < nmz787> their repo is here https://github.com/embeddedartists/labtool 12:02 < nmz787> labtool is a daughtrboard for the link2 12:02 <@kanzure> you mean libtool? 12:02 < nmz787> but it is a complete skeleton for using the HSADC at 80 MSPS via DMA and USB HS 12:03 < nmz787> no LabTool 12:03 < chris_99> its a shame the lpc link 2 doesn't have lots of SRAM 12:03 < nmz787> 282kb is quite a lot 12:03 < nmz787> for on-chip 12:04 < chris_99> mm i guess i mean external 12:04 < nmz787> well it has none externally 12:04 < nmz787> on the link2 board 12:05 < chris_99> mm 12:05 < nmz787> SRAM needs a ton of pins 12:05 < chris_99> indeed, i'm planning on using eLua you see which will eat RAM 12:05 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@rrcs-50-84-151-141.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Just going out for a swim...] 12:07 < nmz787> seems like you want something with some variant of DDR on it then 12:08 < nmz787> if you don't need real-time operation, raspberrypi might work 12:08 < nmz787> or beaglebone would also, and that has a real-time coprocessor subsystem type thing 12:08 -!- soylentbomb [~k@d47-69-29-182.nap.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:08 < chris_99> nah i still want an MCU so the STM should be perfect 12:08 < nmz787> not quite a second core, just enough of a brain to offload IO stuff 12:10 < chris_99> if i could find a devboard with an LPC chip on with ext. SRAM that could be awesome 12:10 < chris_99> as i could write a lib for elua to do threading ;) 12:12 < nmz787> there are some SRAM and RAM boards out there, you'd need to make an adapter though... the link2 has lots of digital pins though 12:13 < chris_99> hmm, i'll have to have a look 12:13 < chris_99> i'm planning on using Zigbee with it too, so i couldn't use too many 12:14 < nmz787> i guess it depends also on how fast you need to access the RAM 12:14 < chris_99> mm you can probably get some kind of SPI or something interface i imagine 12:14 < nmz787> there may be SPI chips/modules that are fast enough for you 12:14 < nmz787> :P 12:14 < chris_99> heh 12:16 < nmz787> yeah seems the SPIFI accel can do memory mapping of SPI RAM to RAM 12:17 < chris_99> cool 12:22 < nmz787> hmm, I guess I spoke too soon, it doesn't handle mapping to the RAM area 12:23 < nmz787> so you could still use SPI RAM, but the compiler wouldn't handle it for you out-of-the-box 12:23 < nmz787> you'd need to write a helper function or two 12:23 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@cpe-24-92-63-104.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:23 < nmz787> but I guess FRAM is getting cheaper and is decent sized 12:24 < nmz787> not FRAM, but seems pretty cheap http://www.digikey.co.uk/product-search/en?x=12&y=15&lang=en&site=uk&KeyWords=NP5Q128A13ESFC0E-ND 12:25 < nmz787> only 16 pins 12:25 < chris_99> nice, that seems very cheap 12:41 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:45 -!- heath [quassel@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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where is paperbot 16:38 < gradstudentbot> That's definitely a Nature paper. 16:39 -!- paperbot [~paperbot@131.252.130.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:42 -!- Qfwfq [~Qfwfq@unaffiliated/washirving] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:45 < wallmani> i am so glad i can access a lot of paid papers through my universitt 16:45 < wallmani> *university 16:47 -!- Qfwfq [~Qfwfq@unaffiliated/washirving] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:47 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@dhcp-130-58-198-31.swarthmore.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:49 -!- augur [~augur@c-68-55-204-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:02 -!- top4o [~chatzilla@93-152-180-149.ddns.onlinedirect.bg] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:02 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@dhcp-130-58-198-31.swarthmore.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:05 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:b2c0:ab00:555a:267a:91b6:edbe] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:07 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@dhcp-130-58-198-31.swarthmore.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:12 < catern> 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