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01:56 < chris_99> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11227-006-3845-z
01:56 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/A%20Survey%20on%20Wireless%20Grid%20Computing.pdf
02:00 < chris_99> :)
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04:13 <@archels> .t http://journal.frontiersin.org/Journal/10.3389/fnsys.2014.00012/full
04:13 < yoleaux> archels: Sorry, I don't know a timezone by that name.
04:14 <@archels> .title
04:14 < yoleaux> When is diminishment a form of enhancement? Rethinking the enhancement debate in biomedical ethics
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05:43 < eudoxia> >22:49 < cluckj> wasn't mt gox for trading magic cards to start with?
05:43 < eudoxia> did anyone from gox ever confirm this
05:43 < eudoxia> or was it just citogenesis in wikipedia
05:44 < chris_99> theres some ref. on archive.org iirc to cards
05:44 < chris_99> dunno if they ever actually sold thm though
05:46 < eudoxia> https://web.archive.org/web/20070624204743/http://mtgox.com/gwt/mtgox.php
05:50 < chris_99> mm that's about all i've seen
05:50 < chris_99> oh wait
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07:25 < kanzure> eudoxia: nah i'm p. sure even karpeles confirmed it
07:26 < cluckj> o_O
07:28 < cluckj> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26571018
07:28 < eudoxia> kanzure: pm
07:28 < cluckj> "u guys aren't even making money off it, geez"
07:43 < eudoxia> well, they could be using it to do insider trading
07:44 < cluckj> true
07:47 < kanzure> .title
07:47 < yoleaux> Mark Zuckerberg 'confused and frustrated' by US spying
07:47 < pasky> iirc karpeles bought a work-in-progress trading platform for mtg cards from someone else and repurposed it for bitcoin, but it never really was public for the mtg cards
07:48 < kanzure> sounds right
07:48 < cluckj> ah
07:48 < kanzure> http://www.dailytech.com/Bitcoin+King+Pt+II+Mt+Goxs+Dictator+Karpels+Proves+Tragically+Flawed/article34452.htm
07:48 < kanzure> skip the stuff before "XI. Karpelès Subscribed to the"
07:49 < eudoxia> that whole sentence is just
07:49 < eudoxia> wow
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09:08 < pasky> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-32378-2_6
09:09 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/8064819c0c669d241f4704f180ed9ad0.txt
09:10 < pasky> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2F978-3-642-32378-2_6.pdf
09:10 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a4649158a46436235e909fd732913e0b.txt
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09:56 < kanzure> cluckj: http://peerproduction.net/issues/issue-3-free-software-epistemics/debate/there-is-no-free-software/
09:56 < kanzure> jrayhawk: you may be vaguely interested in reading kelty things since he deals in epistemology a little
09:57 < kanzure> altohugh this particular article might be suspect. hrm.
10:28 < kanzure> *although
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10:32 < kanzure> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6281957&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D6281957
10:32 < paperbot> ConnectionError: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 625, in send)
10:33 < kanzure> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6281957&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D6281957
10:33 < kanzure> oh, login.jsp
10:33 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4b3c0d4ead286040f17319dfb0095a09.txt
10:44 < cluckj> naw that article is decent :P
10:44 < cluckj> it's a rehash of what I understood out of his book
10:45 < kanzure> show me other interesting things?
10:45 < kanzure> i like epistemology stuff
10:45 < cluckj> in what area?
10:45 < kanzure> dunno.. chef's preference.
10:46 < cluckj> hah you're going to end up with my dissertation bibliography
10:47 < cluckj> books, articles? stuff I have PDFs of? epistemology in science, technology, straight-up philosophy?
10:47 < kanzure> whatever :)
10:47 < cluckj> lol
10:48 < cluckj> what you're asking me is like me asking you to send me "stuff about computers" :P
10:49 < cluckj> let me hit my bookshelf, brb
10:58 < cluckj> life sciences: hannah landecker (ckelty's wife), culturing life (about the development of cell culture technology); mike fortun (my advisor, maybe too postmodern for you), promising genomics (deCODE, late 90s biotech boom); keith wailoo, drawing blood ('history' of hematology); nik rose, the politics of life itself (molecular genetics, pretty well-established and cited in STS)
10:59 < cluckj> stefan helmreich, alien ocean (microbes and genetics/genomics in the ocean)
11:00 < kanzure> "too postmodern for you" /me scratches his head
11:02 < kanzure> i thought decode genetics collapsed already
11:02 < kanzure> the company, right?
11:04 < cluckj> physics: ian hacking, everything he's written ever, about epistemology in physics...he gets fairly philosophical most of the time; sharon traweek, beamtimes and lifetimes (high energy physics in Japan); karin knorr cetina, epistemic cultures (compares HEP with molecular biology)
11:04 < kanzure> have i shown you lee smolin things?
11:04 < cluckj> oh I forgot hans-jorg rheinberger
11:05 < cluckj> a history of epistemic things
11:05 < kanzure> http://www.edge.org/conversation/think-about-nature
11:05 < cluckj> yeah the company
11:05 < cluckj> he published the book a few months before the company collapsed
11:06 < kanzure> that last one is curious, "In a post-Kuhnian move away from the hegemony of theory, he develops a new epistemology of experimentation in which research is treated as a process for producing epistemic things."
11:06 < cluckj> I really like the rheinberger book
11:07 < cluckj> it's all up in the stuff I write about and my research methods
11:09 < kanzure> libgen doesn't have it
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11:10 < cluckj> he has an article, "experimental systems, graphematic spaces" that is an abridged version of the book
11:11 < cluckj> but I definitely have a pdf or epub of his book
11:12 < cluckj> by postmodern I think I mean poststructuralist in this case
11:12 < kanzure> that word also has no meaning to me
11:12 < cluckj> it's built on a particular understanding of how language works
11:14 < cluckj> iirc you don't like it very much
11:14 < cluckj> but you may have changed your mind :)
11:14 < kanzure> "Following his detailed investigation of the history of protein biosynthesis research between 1945 and 1965..." hrm, i am pretty sure that wasn't working in 1945, and that it eventually caused a nobel prize.
11:16 < kanzure> i dunno what this is but it says interesting things http://www.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/PDF/REPORT98_99_2.PDF
11:17 < cluckj> it wasn't working, but people were working on it
11:18 < kanzure> "In 1823 the astronomer Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel found individual differences between astronomers who observed the transit of a star over the meridian. In the following years, these observations were corroborated."
11:18 < kanzure> "i promise it's really really there"
11:19 < cluckj> lol
11:19 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/PDF/REPORT98_99_2.PDF
11:19 < cluckj> emailing you the pdfs of rheinberger's best works
11:20 < cluckj> the quality on one is not very good
11:20 < cluckj> oh wow the book is bad too
11:20 < cluckj> :|
11:22 < paperbot> TypeError: unicode() argument 2 must be string, not None (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 825, in text)
11:22 < kanzure> awww
11:22 < dingo> :D
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11:27 < cluckj> I guess there's bruno latour too
11:27 < cluckj> but eh
11:28 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/106361405774288026
11:28 < paperbot> ConnectionError: HTTPConnectionPool(host='www.mitpressjournals.org.sci-hub.org', port=80): Max retries exceeded with url: //doi/abs/10.1162/106361405774288026 (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 628, in send)
11:28 < kanzure> hrm.
11:28 < cluckj> and if you like thomas kuhn and/or karl popper, imre lakatos is nice
11:28 < kanzure> oh, sci-hub
11:43 < kanzure> hah kelty called it "greputation"
11:43 < kanzure> i hope he feels morally bad about that pun
11:44 < cluckj> oh man ouch :(
12:04 < ParahSailin> no philosophy
12:04 < kanzure> "In order to maximize compatibility between SQLite and other database engines, SQLite supports the concept of "type affinity" on columns. The type affinity of a column is the recommended type for data stored in that column. The important idea here is that the type is recommended, not required. Any column can still store any type of data. It is just that some columns, given the choice, will prefer to use one storage class over another. The ...
12:04 < kanzure> ... preferred storage class for a column is called its "affinity"."
12:04 < kanzure> type affinity sounds like bullshit to me
12:05 < kanzure> from http://www.sqlite.org/datatype3.html
12:06 < cluckj> ParahSailin, agreed
12:10 < kanzure> hmph "In a strategic move towards building their wearable department, Intel acquires Basis for $100M. Basis is halfway between Fitbit and Pebble."
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15:10 < streety> I thought basis was struggling
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16:39 < Lemminkainen> paperbot http://www.nature.com/nrn/journal/v15/n3/full/nrn3700.html
16:39 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnrn3700
16:40 < Lemminkainen> paperbot http://www.nature.com/nri/journal/v14/n3/full/nri3635.html
16:40 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnri3635
16:40 < Lemminkainen> paperbot http://www.nature.com/nrn/journal/v15/n2/full/nrn3678.html
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21:34 < kanzure> "I received a phishing spam that was advertising a 'mtgox victim's compensation fund'. From a scammer point of view, it is a pretty clever way to select targets. 'Didn't lose any money in the MtGox closure? Don't worry! We can fix that!'"
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21:48 < dingo_> foolish enough to use mtgox? trust us!
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