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00:12 < stieruridir> kanzure, you see the Sinclair study that came out a few months ago? I'm 95% sure it's old news to you, but worth checking
00:13 < stieruridir> mice, anti-aging, yadda yadda
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10:19 < kanzure> you can't yadda yadda mice
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11:22 < kanzure> stieruridir: nope didn't see it
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12:26 < kanzure> paperbot: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=806707
12:26 < paperbot> ConnectionError: [Errno 111] Connection refused (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 625, in send)
12:26 < kanzure> paperbot: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=806707
12:26 < paperbot> ConnectionError: [Errno 111] Connection refused (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 625, in send)
12:26 < kanzure> impressive
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14:18 < giantabc> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867414002803
14:18 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/629577148d6e23c163fb276b38eb006a.txt
14:19 < kanzure> better luck next time
14:19 < kanzure> also hi
14:19 < giantabc> let's try again :)
14:19 < giantabc> paperbot: http://www.cell.com/abstract/S0092-8674(14)00280-3
14:19 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Integrating%20Biological%20Redesign%3A%20Where%20Synthetic%20Biology%20Came%20From%20and%20Where%20It%20Needs%20to%20Go.pdf
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14:21 < kanzure> how rude
14:24 < kanzure> proposal to make bitcoin a finite money supply https://gist.github.com/sipa/9920696
14:24 < kanzure> "This style relies less heavily on clever C++ and is more familiar to the Core Dev Team who are primarily PHP programmers."
14:29 < jrayhawk_> paperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/325/5937/201.full.pdf
14:29 < paperbot> XMLSyntaxError: None (file "/home/bryan/code/paperbot/phenny/modules/scihub.py", line 51, in _go)
14:30 < jrayhawk_> exciting
14:30 < kanzure> congratulations you found a new problem
14:31 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/325/5937/201
14:31 < paperbot> ConnectionError: [Errno 111] Connection refused (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 625, in send)
14:31 < kanzure> wtf?
14:31 < kanzure> my ultimate goal is to be banned by every major science institution in the world
14:32 < kanzure> for reading too much
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15:41 < stieruridir> kanzure: http://hms.harvard.edu/news/genetics/new-reversible-cause-aging-12-19-13
15:41 < stieruridir> from December
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16:33 < kanzure> nick pinkston is doing another startup,
16:33 < kanzure> https://angel.co/plethora
16:33 < kanzure> "Our Mission: We're making hardware as easy as software by giving you "engineering superpowers" - tools that eliminate the complexity, guess work, and schlepping that hardware engineering currently full of. To do this, we put the brain of a manufacturing engineer inside software to give you real-time feedback and make your parts super-fast."
16:33 < kanzure> "+ Full-Auto Factory: It's like Amazon Web Services meets a Robotic Factory: you send us CAD files and we automatically manufacture your parts as fast as next day."
16:33 < kanzure> "+ CAD Plug-in (pictured above): This acts like a debugger for mechanical designs. We highlight any errors you have, show you how to reduce costs, show what the turnaround time will be, etc. Then when you're ready, press "Make" and your design is manufactured in our factory and sent directly to you."
16:33 < kanzure> "We're starting off offering CNC milling services, but we'll quickly expand into other manufacturing / finishing processes in the near future."
16:34 < kanzure> so maybe something like aws/ec2 for accessing a flexible manufacturing cell would be interesting
16:34 < kanzure> but just raw access to a remote cnc lathe is less interesting, because you can't move it or do anything else with the part
16:34 < kanzure> and, just uploading a cad file is nothing like aws
16:34 < kanzure> "+ The "Compiler": This other engine lives in our factory and essentially takes the CAD object and converts it into automation commands, tooling, etc. for our machine tools and robots to fully produce and QC the design."
16:35 < kanzure> "+ The Factory Control System is essentially a web app that deals with the commands, log data, etc. - this is what actually sends the control commands from the "compiler" to the factory."
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16:35 < kanzure> terrible site too http://www.plethora.io/
16:37 < eudoxia> it's like a hybrid between a PSD-to-HTML service and an early version of bootstrap
16:43 < kanzure> so if you have to make your hardware parts remotely in a flex cell, does that really fix the prototyping/iteration time
16:44 < kanzure> at minimum there is going to be delivery times getting it to your door
16:44 < kanzure> i suppose that's not bad, it's only a one-way delivery time
16:44 < kanzure> if your prototype doesn't work, you just mail yourself the next one, you don't really have to mail parts back unless you want to
16:52 < nmz787_i> 123d catch seems cooler than that!
16:52 < kanzure> are you just spouting random product names
16:52 < kanzure> none of this was about 3d visualization from 2d images
16:52 < nmz787_i> no
16:52 < nmz787_i> CAD for the cloud
16:52 < nmz787_i> 123d catch is CAD
16:53 < nmz787_i> jrayhawk_: did you get that science article, i can't tell if i have access or its open-access
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17:05 < kanzure> even with parts being mailed to you, the cycle is still too long compared to software
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18:27 < kanzure> lorenzo is doing a dna ligation startup
18:31 < jrayhawk_> nmz787_i: it's not open access, but it worked fine through not-paperbot
18:36 < kanzure> throwaway: "put a load balancer on every node in the cluster" would probably raise a bunch of venture capital money
18:40 < kanzure> what was the company that took bone marrow from you and then "retrained" your immune system before giving it back to you?
18:40 < kanzure> was that derya unutmaz's company?
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19:35 < kanzure> oh yeah, people have been using ultrasound for plasmid uptake
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20:00 < kanzure> http://pando.com/2012/12/13/transcriptics-wild-seed-round-the-internet-was-just-trying-to-throw-money-at-us/
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20:23 < kanzure> can anyone find a good diagram of a flex cell, that would illustrate to others the point of it
20:23 < kanzure> all i'm seeing are just diagrams of boxes
20:24 < kanzure> aren't they supposed to have robotic arms?
20:27 < kanzure> there should be an api for scienceexchange. how do they not have one.
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22:22 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/978-1-61779-564-0_20
22:22 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b2c28d5ad9cf89945568529f6090a850.txt
22:24 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2F978-1-61779-564-0_20.pdf
22:24 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/550212e027642d4385200ab7cbf930ee.txt
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22:27 < naish411> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nrm/journal/v15/n4/full/nrm3767.html
22:30 < paperbot> ConnectionError: [Errno 110] Connection timed out (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 625, in send)
22:31 < kanzure> you guys are not having good luck with paperbot today
22:31 < kanzure> i suggest bugfixing
22:31 < naish411>  <- newbie... how does one do that?
22:32 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot
22:32 < kanzure> the old fashion way... with code. and programming.
22:33 < kanzure> and maybe a pizza
22:36 < naish411> see if this one works
22:36 < naish411> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nrm3767
22:36 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fe78eb15dba3ca2c3088b458cf9726e3.txt
22:39 < naish411> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nrm/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nrm3767.html
22:39 < kanzure> yeah i think it's having some problems.
22:40 < kanzure> sorry, but you'll just have to file a bug report and wait until i fix whatever the underlying bug is
22:40 < kanzure> which is non-obvious to me at the moment
22:40 < naish411> not a problem. Thanks for having a look. I'll check out the github repo myself
22:41 < kanzure> 22:40 <paperbot> ConnectionError: [Errno 110] Connection timed out (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 625, in send)
22:41 < kanzure> probably blocked
22:42 < paperbot> ConnectionError: [Errno 110] Connection timed out (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 625, in send)
22:46 < naish411> one last try
22:46 < naish411> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nrm/journal/v15/n4/pdf/nrm3767.pdf?WT.ec_id=NRM-201404
22:46 < kanzure> you are very desperate to read about terrible synthetic biology opinions
22:46 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fcf7c44acfcb74a5f12a0cd17f34f296.pdf
22:46 < kanzure> wat how did that work
22:47 < naish411> it became less about the article and more about seeing what was happening with paperbot
22:48 < kanzure> "why everyone should be a sleepless synthetic biologist, signed by dr. sleepless himself"
22:49 < kanzure> "the authors would like to note that george church owns basically a tiny portion of literally every conceivable company that you will ever encounter in this industry"
22:49  * kanzure taps the channel topic
22:51 < kanzure> "due to the massive amount of ink that it would cost to print out his entire list of conflicts of interest, he has decided to forego the remainder of his career and retire in a puff of smoke"
22:52 < kanzure> which of course isn't very unusual for these biologist types. they escape easily, like the octopus..
23:00 < naish411> don't know why that worked.
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