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00:50 < xentrac> a netsplit of 100 minues
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00:52 < xentrac> hey, here's a crazy idea that I've been thinking about
00:53 < xentrac> Snell's law is not just nonlinear, but goes to have this massive slope in the region around total internal reflection
00:54 < xentrac> and in particular if you have a small crack in a piece of glass, that crack is almost invisible before you get very close to total internal reflection
00:56 < xentrac> that means that a small change in either the angle of incidence or in the refractive index can result in a very large change in the behavior of light traveling through
01:00 < xentrac> refractive index is a product of electric susceptibility
01:01 < xentrac> but typically susceptibility is not constant, but diminishes to zero at sufficiently large field strengths
01:03 < xentrac> this suggests that you should be able to switch a cracked piece of glass between near-perfect transmission and total internal reflection at a particular angle by applying a strong electric field
01:03 < xentrac> at frequencies close to the frequency of light
01:03 < xentrac> (this phenomenon is used in frequency-doubling crystals for green lasers)
01:06 < xentrac> what I don't know is whether the electric field needed to produce a sufficiently large change in the critical incident angle for total internal reflection is a reasonably small field
01:07 < xentrac> you want the field to be small enough that it doesn't result in avalanche breakdown of the glass, for example
01:08 < xentrac> and you want the critical angle to change by more than the dispersion angle of the lasers you have handy
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01:12 < norepinetree> anyone a tDCS user?
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02:16 < juul> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0958694698000405
02:16 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e948307177530d0cf21bc041b84a351a.txt
02:17 < juul> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0958694698000405/pdf?md5=cbad5842e2b789841f8ecd1b009f2aff&pid=1-s2.0-S0958694698000405-main.pdf
02:17 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/23f1a77e162fef6d98753e70545338f6.pdf
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02:53 < juul> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022030284813326
02:53 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c1053cf94632d7e333bc0fc2a149f6c1.txt
02:53 < juul> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022030284813326/pdf
02:54 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/9e725f89f3ed285f73317d1fd359fb17.txt
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03:01 < juul> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1017/S0022029900017295
03:02 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fa5309520efc793a1f7bb152c259b8a5.txt
03:05 < juul> paperbot: http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=5160356&fulltextType=RA&fileId=S0022029900017295
03:05 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/81944fbe0c899335db460b0e67b634de.txt
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03:10 < juul> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0268005X10002808/pdf
03:10 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d123f23eb4ad54bad9569db7ba3b793f.txt
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08:53 < kanzure> "How I obtained the private key for www.cloudflarechallenge.com" https://gist.github.com/epixoip/10570627
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10:15 < chris_99> anyone ever used high precision linear encoders out of interest
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10:37 < kanzure> xentrac: have you considered the feasibility of mental-only rsa arithmetic? or at least, some simplification of rsa arithmetic that could be trachtenberged.
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10:48 < kanzure> http://diswww.mit.edu/menelaus/cpunks/12956
10:48 < kanzure> hah in that 1994 email tim mays says something like "on the extropians list a while back [i have since left that mailing list]" :)
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11:09 < kanzure> remote: 2014/04/13 11:09:14 socat[726] E connect(3, AF=1 "/home/gnusha/.irssi/socket", 28): Connection refused
11:10 < kanzure> found some old transcripts from singularity summit 2009:
11:10 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/singularity-summit-2009/anders-sandberg
11:10 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/singularity-summit-2009/ed-boyden
11:17 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/singularity-summit-2009/anna-salamon
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11:40 < Tuxedage> Hi
11:40 < Tuxedage> I want to upload myself into my computer
11:40 < Tuxedage> what's the easiest way to do it
11:40 < kanzure> http://3scan.com/
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11:41 < kanzure> of course, the problem is software at that point
11:41 < kanzure> but the actual scanning is doable these days
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11:41 < Tuxedage> Ah, so it's a software problem
11:42 < kanzure> well, i mean, i just linked you to someone that has some hardware
11:42 < kanzure> i could show you NEURON, but then you'd complain even more
11:44 < kanzure> nobody has actually loaded up all that data into a hebbian-style whole brain emulation yet
11:44 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/brain-emulation-roadmap-report.pdf
11:47 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/nematodeuploadproject/
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11:53 < Tuxedage> Sorry, I wasn't expecting a serious answer.
11:53 < Tuxedage> I was parodying people who would go into channels and ask for the impossible
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11:56 < eudoxia> http://www.izhikevich.org/human_brain_simulation/Blue_Brain.htm#Simulation%20of%20Large-Scale%20Brain%20Models
11:56 < eudoxia> >On October 27, 2005 I finished simulation of a model that has the size of the human brain. The model has 100,000,000,000 neurons
11:56 < eudoxia> >One second of simulation took 50 days on a beowulf cluster of 27 processors
11:56 < eudoxia> http://www.izhikevich.org/human_brain_simulation/why.htm
11:57 < eudoxia> Tuxedage: so you're gonna have to wait for at least two years
11:57 < Tuxedage> Somehow I doubt we're only two years away from EMs
11:57 < eudoxia> assuming you have a few million dollars for the supercomputer, or at least storageu until computers get better
11:58 < eudoxia> well, it wasn't exactly an ab initio simulation of every atom in the brain
11:58 < cpopell> eudoxia: read the FY2015 DARPA budget request?
11:59 < eudoxia> cpopell: no, why? does it have brain stuff
11:59 < cpopell> a whole fuckton
11:59 < cpopell> by which I mean at least a few lines
12:00 < cpopell> http://www.darpa.mil/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=2147487546 ctrl+f 'memory' should bring you most of it
12:01 < eudoxia> yeah, i was just reading it now and they seem to care a lot about memory
12:01 < cpopell> http://www.darpa.mil/Our_Work/BTO/Programs/ here's a list of BTO's programs
12:01 < eudoxia> oh boy neuromorphic processors
12:03 < kanzure> huh i found transcripts from hplus summit 2009
12:04 < kanzure> izhikevich's simulations do not have relevant connectivity
12:04 < eudoxia> i know
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12:06 < kanzure> really weird that i forgot about these
12:06 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hplus-summit-2009/
12:06 < kanzure> there they are. have fun.
12:07 < kanzure> stuff that's fun:
12:07 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hplus-summit-2009/anselm-levksaya/
12:07 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hplus-summit-2009/alex-lightman/
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12:07 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hplus-summit-2009/dylan-morris/
12:08 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hplus-summit-2009/fahy/
12:08 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hplus-summit-2009/greg-benford/
12:08 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hplus-summit-2009/todd-huffman/
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13:05 < FourFire> eudoxia, I wonder, how fast that simulation would run on a Quad Titan Black array
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13:09 < eudoxia> FourFire: slow?
13:10 < FourFire> I don't get the chart: http://www.izhikevich.org/human_brain_simulation/why.htm
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13:11 < FourFire> are they expecting processor power to double every year, or are they adding cores to make a net Ghz measure?
13:11 < eudoxia> FourFire: given that in year X each processor will run at Y GHz, simulating the brain in real time would fake Z processors
13:12 < kanzure> juri_: would you know where i can find backups of gnu.ai.mit.edu?
13:12 < eudoxia> on 2016 we could build a million-processor cluster with SOA processors that simulates a brain in real time
13:13 < nmz787> FourFire: moores law has 10-20 years left til it stops working for predictions
13:13 < FourFire> A single Nvidia Titan Black GPU has 2880 shader cores clocked at 890Mhz
13:13 < nmz787> according to current manufacturers speculations
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13:14 < FourFire> moore's law, sure, but usable performance growth has slowed since ~2005
13:14 < nmz787> FourFire: people still think it's going to take 20-40 years to fully simulate and compute genome data and neuronal interaction using all the atoms
13:14 < nmz787> *using physics modelling*
13:15 < nmz787> FourFire: it's kinda all the same... if you look at performance per watt
13:15 < FourFire> sorry, is that taking exponential computing power growth trends for granted?
13:16 < nmz787> umm, manufacturers are trying to cut down on power per operation all over the place
13:16 < nmz787> that's a lot of the 'innovation' these days
13:16 < nmz787> "To store all synaptic weights, one needs 10,000 terabytes. Not even Google has that much free space."
13:17 < cpopell> I strongly recommend that you guys check out http://www.itrs.net/Links/2012ITRS/2012Chapters/2012Overview.pdf and http://www.itrs.net/Links/2012ITRS/2012Chapters/MtM%20WG%20entirereport_final.pdf
13:17 < nmz787> as I mentioned last week, sequencing all the cancer patiens in the U.S. every 2 weeks would produce ~495 tera megabytes
13:17 < nmz787> (for 1 year
13:17 < nmz787> )
13:18 < FourFire> so, borky performance estimate says that we need ~136500 titan blacks, in order to simulate a human brain in real time
13:18 < FourFire> but how much RAM is needed??
13:18 < yash> "simulate"
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13:19 < eudoxia> that's the RAM
13:19 < eudoxia> ten thousand terabytes
13:19 < nmz787> FourFire: and each one computing needs 384 watts
13:20 < nmz787> so you'd need 52 megawatts for that simulation
13:20 < FourFire> this is assuming that a current GPU core, doesn't have better performance per clock than 2005 era 3Ghz processors
13:21 < nmz787> and it looks like the avg nuke in USA produces just over a MWh http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=104&t=3
13:21 < nmz787> so you'd need a big ass nuke for this computer
13:21 < eudoxia> so, not there yet
13:22 < nmz787> oh wait
13:22 < cpopell> I was going to say
13:22 < cpopell> uh
13:22 < cpopell> your math
13:23 < juri_> uh oh.
13:23 < juri_> kanzure: yes, but why? ;)
13:23 < cpopell> even the smallest nuke provides 502 MW, which is 10x what you said you need, nmz
13:23 < nmz787> maybe that's 1.3 GWh
13:24 < eudoxia> detonating davy crocketts in cylinders full of water is not a sustainable power source
13:24 < cpopell> eudoxia: I think he's screwing up his power math
13:25 < cpopell> 52 megawatts is not that much all things considered
13:26 < nmz787> my math was 11.8 kWh * 10^9 * 1000 / 365/ 24
13:26 < cpopell> first, I think you're taking too many steps
13:26 < cpopell> second, it was 11.8 billion kwh
13:27 < cpopell> ah, *10^9
13:27 < cpopell> Anyway, just look at the smallest nuke they list, 502 MW
13:27 < cpopell> look at your power needs, 52 MW
13:37 < rk[1]> so, i see the topic mentions nootropics. i have some questions, about procurement; not sure if it is appropriate for such questions in this channel or not...
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14:44 < FourFire> 24.3 Megawatts using the new GTX 750 Ti (they are more power efficient)
14:45 < FourFire> but that's still 405 000 GPUs which need a motherboard, processor and power supply...
14:48 < eudoxia> so not there yet
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14:53 < kanzure> ugh i should convert http://sl4.org/wiki/action=rc&days=90000 to diyhpluswiki.git
14:55 < eudoxia> i thought that place was supposed to be dead
14:55 < kanzure> it is dead
14:55 < kanzure> so was nanoengineer
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15:19 < kanzure> AlonzoTG: what was #virus
15:25 < kanzure> 2004-02-15 20:24:15 :Reason!~Reason@h-67-100-90-41.SNFCCASY.covad.net PUBMSG #vpsummit :I was just saying that you guys need a big clearly marked highway
15:25 < kanzure> finally maybe i can dox reason
15:26 < kanzure> 2004-02-29 17:47:22 :Natasha_Vita-More!~Natasha@dialup-67.74.179.138.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net QUIT #vpsummit :Natasha_Vita-More (~Natasha@dialup-67.74.179.138.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net) has quit IRC [Quit: Today is a good day to chat.]
15:27 < kanzure> 2004-02-24 16:17:51 :ag24!~ag24@host217-43-118-164.range217-43.btcentralplus.com PUBMSG #vpsummit :he's a close friend of mine too, but he's still infuriatingly myopic about this stuff
15:27 < kanzure> that's most likely aubrey
15:27 < jrayhawk> re: gnusha: whoops, screwed up the symlink for autorunning that socket interface script
15:29 < kanzure> 2004-02-14 13:23:38 :Max_More!~Max@cs6668150-102.austin.rr.com PUBMSG #vpsummit :Should I know what "NickServ" does?
15:29 < jrayhawk> It's a spy! BURN IT!
15:30 < gnusha> honk honk test test
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15:57 < xentrac> kanzure: I have done RSA on paper, but the key was like 6 bits
15:59 < xentrac> I suspect elliptic-curve cryptography is more practical to do by hand or in your head, but I don't think even that is practical to do in a secure way
16:00 < kanzure> well, what if i say that brain scanning is an attack vector not covered by the technique, would your claim of insecurity still hold
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16:02 < xentrac> I think I'm missing context here
16:03 < xentrac> what did I claim was insecure?
16:03 < kanzure> "don't think even that is practical to do in a secure way"
16:04 < kanzure> i was assuming that you were going to say it's insecure because brain scanning
16:04 < kanzure> but in the vast majority of cases at the moment brain scanning is not an available threat vector
16:04 < xentrac> oh, I meant with large enough keys to be secure against brute-force attack using computers
16:06 < kanzure> how large would the numbers have to be?
16:06 < xentrac> presumably you could find a base-10 analogue of Curve25519, but how long will it take you to multiple two 70- or 80-digit numbers by hand?
16:06 < kanzure> i think the hardest part wouldn't be the numbers (you could come up with some word-based encoding scheme)
16:06 < kanzure> but rather the entropy
16:06 < kanzure> well, trachtenberg math had people doing 80-digit multiplication in <30 seconds or osmething
16:06 < xentrac> I don't think the entropy is particularly hard to come by
16:06 < xentrac> really?
16:07 < kanzure> i mean people choose low-entropy passwords all the time
16:07 < xentrac> 80 digit by 80 digit?  or 80 digit by 1 or 2 digit?
16:07  * kanzure thinks
16:07 < xentrac> oh, sure, it's easy to get the entropy wrong
16:07 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trachtenberg_system
16:07 < xentrac> but you can roll some dice and you're in good shape
16:07 < xentrac> yeah, I know what it is; I had Trachtenberg's book as a kid
16:08 < kanzure> hmm so you're right that this doesn't focus on long-integer arithmetic
16:08 < kanzure> and most people wont be able to do 80 digit numbers in their head let alone math manipulation
16:08 < kanzure> but maybe using words to represent the numbers, and then multiplying is some transformation of the story of words
16:10 < xentrac> maybe you could be more or less secure with shorter keys than Curve25519?
16:13 < kanzure> "don't mind me, i'm just running a mixnet in my head"
16:15 < xentrac> 4:1 So king Solomon was king over all the precious things thereof, and all the things that are to be executed sequentially; for any particular evaluation strategy.
16:16 < xentrac> (from http://kingjamesprogramming.tumblr.com/page/3)
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16:28 < xentrac> WP says:
16:28 < xentrac> Since all the fastest known algorithms that allow one to solve the ECDLP (baby-step giant-step, Pollard's rho, etc.), need O(\sqrt{n}) steps, it follows that the size of the underlying field should be roughly twice the security parameter. For example, for 128-bit security one needs a curve over \mathbb{F}_q, where q \approx 2^{256}
16:29 < xentrac> so you could probably get by with 160-bit keys, which would be about 48 decimal digits
16:32 < kanzure> and maybe you can trick a person into thinking in base-16
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16:37 < xentrac> is it easier to multiply in base 16?
16:38 < kanzure> no, but you can store more data with less digits
16:38 < xentrac> in this case you would go from 48 decimal digits to 40
16:39 < kanzure> hrm not much help huh
16:39 < xentrac> which would mean you'd have to do O(1600) work to do a multiplication instead of O(2304)
16:39 < xentrac> so it's a significant improvement --- if the individual operations are about the same
16:40 < kanzure> i would say base58 but then people would probably print out a chart to help them identify which symbols correspond to which values
16:40 < kanzure> and then you would leak data by eye movements
16:41 < xentrac> maybe you could just use base 100
16:41 < kanzure> what symbols do normalfolk use for base 100? digits, alphabet, and what else?
16:42 < xentrac> pairs of base-10 digits
16:43 < xentrac> you could plausibly memorize the ten thousand products of two-digit numbers
16:43 < xentrac> it would probably take you a couple of years though
16:44 < xentrac> 19:29 Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be carried out by an iterative process
16:45 < kanzure> what is this, hitchhiker's guide to folklore.org?
16:46 < xentrac> http://kingjamesprogramming.tumblr.com/page/10
16:47 < kanzure> what was the story about a king, some programmers, and stones? hm
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18:04 < kanzure> "Implication of sperm RNAs in transgenerational inheritance of the effects of early trauma in mice"
18:04 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nn.3695.html
18:04 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnn.3695
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19:41 < yottabit> kanzure: hm, so yeah, i was paid to write something that was in the end scratched
19:42 < yottabit> after the CI solution was brought to the floor
19:42 < yottabit> makes sense
19:44 < Tuxedage> yottabit, are you the same one involved in dogecoin?
19:44 < Tuxedage> by any chance?
19:47 < yottabit> nope
19:47 < kanzure> yottabit: do you own it?
19:47 < yottabit> kanzure: i don't know
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19:52 < kanzure> yottabit: still getting paid anyway?
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20:20 < kanzure> "Unfortunately it isn't obvious how to implement it practically." - anders
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21:24 < kanzure> http://extropians.weidai.com/extropians.1Q98/0088.html "If you could extract a single bit from someone's mind-state, what would the bit encode, and whose mind would it be?" - wei dai in response to hal finney
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22:34 < norepinetree> anyone wanna talk about tDCS?
22:34 < justanotheruser> norepinetree: what is that?	
22:36 < norepinetree> from wikipedia: Transcranial direct current stimulation (tDCS) is a form of neurostimulation which uses constant, low current delivered directly to the brain area of interest via small electrodes. It was originally developed to help patients with brain injuries such as strokes. Tests on healthy adults demonstrated that tDCS can increase cognitive performance on a variety of tasks, depending...
22:37 < norepinetree> ...on the area of the brain being stimulated.[1] It has been utilized to enhance language and mathematical ability, attention span, problem solving, memory, and coordination.[1]
22:37 < justanotheruser> What part of that are you interested in?
22:38 < norepinetree> I have the basic set-up, I just need to buy some accessories. I don't know what gel to buy, etc.
22:43 < norepinetree> what h+ activities are you interested in?
22:48 < kanzure> "No, that wouldn't work because the density of interstellar gas is too low."
22:53 < xentrac> norepinetree: that sounds like a high-risk kind of enhancement to me
22:57 < norepinetree> xentrac: you should check out reddit.com/r/tdcs for more info :)
22:58 < norepinetree> what enhancements do you prefer?
22:58 < xentrac> http://www.gwern.net/Drug%20heuristics#algernon-argument seems to apply to tDCS
22:59 < xentrac> I read a lot, write a lot, program a lot, drink a lot of mate. Nothing particularly unusual.
22:59 < norepinetree> Cool
23:00 < xentrac> it actually mentions tDCS, although I had forgotten that
23:00 < norepinetree> What do you write? read about?
23:00 < norepinetree> This is a good read. No one has studied the long-term effects of tDCS.
23:00 < cpopell> norepinetree: There are places you can buy tDCS hookups, and people on here have worked on them, but I unfortunately can't point you at resources any more.
23:00 < cpopell> norepinetree: There might be some DTIC files on mid-term effects of tDCS
23:01 < norepinetree> cpopell: honestly I was just looking for, like, gel suggestions. But I understand, in case of liability or something.
23:01 < cpopell> Well
23:01 < cpopell> there's also the subreddit
23:02 < xentrac> http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-tol/ has a lot of the things I write about.  sorry it's not organized
23:02 < cpopell> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0361923007000111 pdf on safety aspects from 07
23:02 < xentrac> http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-tol/2014-March/000990.html is an example that is somewhat relevant to h+
23:02 < norepinetree> yup
23:03 < cpopell> BaaS?
23:03 < norepinetree> I ordered thebrainstimulator
23:03 < norepinetree> huh?
23:03 < cpopell> @xentrac
23:03 < norepinetree> sorry
23:03 < xentrac> "backend as a service"
23:04 < cpopell> Ah
23:04 < cpopell> Right now my writing is confined to market analysis
23:04 < cpopell> I'm wrapping up a 40 pager on DaaS
23:04 < cpopell> which no one likes talking about
23:04 < cpopell> because it's confusing
23:04 < norepinetree> captain obvious: you are incredibly intelligent
23:05 < norepinetree> me being captain obvious. that didn't really work in the irc context -_-
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23:05 < norepinetree> you should talk to my girlfriend and be geniuses together
23:06 < kanzure> yawn
23:06 < xentrac> heh. who are you talking to?
23:06 < kanzure> those statements are boring no matter who he was talking to
23:06 < xentrac> cpopell: database?
23:06 < cpopell> Yeah.
23:06 < cpopell> xentrac, pm
23:07 < kanzure> that's not fair now i'm not able to intrude on your conversation
23:08 < norepinetree> cpopell: it's fascinating, I'm just not familiar with it. I'm a fiction writer and am awful at math.
23:08 < cpopell> norepinetree: What sort of fiction writing do you do?
23:09 < norepinetree> elizabethaldrich.com / holostatic.org
23:10 < norepinetree> Nothing I'm really proud of, now I just like to code... and edit other people's manuscripts..
23:10 < xentrac> that's awesome
23:11 < norepinetree> xentrac: me?
23:12 < xentrac> yup
23:12 < norepinetree> aw thanks
23:12 < norepinetree> tell me about.. yourself
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23:13 < cpopell> norepinetree: have you read any of Hannu Rajaniemi's work?
23:13 < xentrac> norepinetree: http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-journal or http://canonical.org/~kragen/about
23:13 < norepinetree> cpopell: no, what is he/she about?
23:14 < cpopell> he's a physicist and co-founder of Helix Nanotechnologies who writes scifi in the stylings/tradition of Gene Wolfe
23:15 < cpopell> incredibly dense post-singularity scifi
23:15 < norepinetree> oooh
23:15 < kanzure> zindell is the only gene wolfe imitator for me
23:15 < norepinetree> xentrac: AHH I USED TO LIVE IN SF TOO.
23:15 < cpopell> kanzure: oh god but A Requiem for Homo Sapiens is just so preachy
23:16 < norepinetree> xentrac: I miss it so much :( which neighborhood did you live in?
23:16 < kanzure> cpopell: stick to the book before that
23:16 < cpopell> read it, it was decent.
23:16 < cpopell> Did you read The Quantum Thief, though?
23:17 < xentrac> first in the Richmond, then in Noe Valley, then at Geary and Masonic, which is sort of the intersection of three or four neighborhoods
23:17 < xentrac> I miss it sometimes but Buenos Aires is pretty fabulous
23:17 < kanzure> did you hang out at langton labs?
23:18 < kanzure> it's a co-op best described as " ran by these guys http://3scan.com/ " but that's not quite right
23:18 < xentrac> no, I don't know about it
23:18 < xentrac> norepinetree: did you?
23:19 < norepinetree> xantrac: nice! i lived on 12th & geary.
23:19 < norepinetree> never heard of it
23:19 < norepinetree> buenos aires does sound fabulous
23:20 < norepinetree> they don't have ads there, right? (excuse my ignorance)
23:20 < xentrac> is "ads" an acronym?
23:22 < norepinetree> no...
23:22 < norepinetree> I am confusing something in my head, sorry
23:22 < cpopell> Man, the weather was nice the last few days
23:22 < cpopell> *here
23:23 < norepinetree> good!
23:23 < norepinetree> same here in socal
23:23 < cpopell> I grew up in SoCal.
23:23 < cpopell> Ventura and San Diego counties
23:23 < norepinetree> oh nice!
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23:28 < kanzure> 20:17 < jgarzik> Calling all early seeders, for soon-to-be-announced bootstrap.dat updated torrent @ block 295000: http://gtf.org/garzik/bitcoin/bootstrap.dat.torrent   If you have an old bootstrap.dat, bittorrent will automatically extend it when you switch to the new torrent.  You effectively already have 81% of the new bootstrap.dat.
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