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http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/honey-i-shrunk-the-mass-spectrometer/article5835840.ece 01:12 -!- HashNuke [uid12117@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jerervlgwkkrfxkz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:14 < nmz787> archels: I have been working on the whole concept from the ground up 01:20 < archels> cool 01:20 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:22 < nmz787> well, they're been around for a while, so I kinda just did my research on making a decent one 01:24 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:25 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@58.171.26.159] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:26 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:29 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:30 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:37 < nmz787> https://github.com/nmz787/open-spectrometer/blob/master/pcb-design/propeller_square/trace_layers.png 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http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/dna/wikipedia-articles/ 04:53 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=69e611bf Bryan Bishop: more wikipedia articles >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/dna/wikipedia-articles/ 04:53 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=2f3c386a Bryan Bishop: more dna synthesis-related wikipedia articles >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/dna/wikipedia-articles/ 04:56 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.172.211.57] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:57 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.156.183.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:20 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:25 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:27 < archels> ouch, fuck 05:27 < archels> I have two laptops sitting next to one another, both with aluminium bodies 05:27 < archels> and I keep zapping myself when I touch both at the same time 05:29 < seba-> archels ground them 05:30 < archels> no alligator clips nearby 05:30 < archels> and both are already plugged into a grounded socket 05:30 * archels calls adapter certification authorities and complains 05:41 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:41 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:03 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:05 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 06:06 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:08 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:09 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:11 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:17 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:19 -!- eudoxia 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the connection] 07:27 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@159.171.124.1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:37 < kanzure> "swift implementation of flappy bird" https://github.com/fullstackio/FlappySwift/tree/master/FlappyBird 07:37 < kanzure> only presented because his turn-around time is nice 07:38 < kanzure> oh, two whole days 07:38 < kanzure> not as impressive 07:43 < pasky> hmm http://www.cognitivealgorithm.info/ this guy claims on elance that he has $500,000 budget for theoretical work o.O 07:48 < kanzure> why are you using elance :o 07:48 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:49 < pasky> kanzure: to make money? any better ideas? :) 07:50 < kanzure> yes you could bug me 07:50 < kanzure> and then i pay you to do things 07:50 < kanzure> fuck elance 07:51 < pasky> sure, so what things do you need doing? :) 07:51 < kanzure> various python things 07:53 < pasky> that sounds good, would you care to elaborate? 07:54 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@pool-173-74-79-151.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:54 < kanzure> not at the moment, we could do it by pm or email 07:55 < pasky> sure! when you have a moment, can you please send me some details at pasky@ucw.cz? or pm here :) 07:55 < kanzure> yep 07:55 < pasky> thanks 07:57 * kanzure yawns 07:57 < kanzure> what we really need is a pancake/waffle delivery service 08:05 -!- Vutral [~ss@2a01:198:35a::101] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:05 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:06 -!- Vutral [~ss@2a01:198:35a::101] has quit [Changing host] 08:06 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:08 < kanzure> https://github.com/petertodd/timelock "Create a secret key that can be decrypted in a known amount of time using parallel-serial hash chains. The creator can compute the timelock in parallel, taking advantage of the large amount of cheap parallelism available today, while others are forced to compute it serially, constrained by the lack of scalar performance growth." 08:11 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:12 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.156.185.219] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:17 -!- joepie91_ [5064fe45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.100.254.69] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:22 -!- jmil [~jmil@hive76/member/jmil] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:23 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:25 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.156.185.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:27 < kanzure> "Hello Bryan, My name is Stephen. I do HIV molecular biology work at university. I also did work setting up a clinical molecular lab in Mozambique. The work went well, but in 3rd world nations where equipment is a decades old or barely functional, the use of a thermalcycler for HIV clinical work it important for an impoverish country.... [redacted][redacted]" 08:28 -!- mosasaur [~mosasaur@unaffiliated/mosasaur] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:32 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-134-54-13.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:32 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:39 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:53 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:54 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:58 < seba-> kanzure ? 09:01 < seba-> what is the webpage of the channel, http://diyhpl.us/wiki/ this? 09:01 < kanzure> yes 09:01 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/hplusroadmap 09:01 < kanzure> etc 09:04 < seba-> kanzure, https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=18135 is this maybe interesting for the page? 09:04 < kanzure> ah you are from sciencemadness 09:04 < kanzure> elite group of all 12 people 09:04 -!- [nsh] [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:04 < kanzure> yes it is relevant 09:06 < seba-> i have some pics as well :-) 09:08 < seba-> kanzure what do you man by elite group of 12 people lol 09:08 < kanzure> i think only 11 people know about it or something 09:09 < kanzure> "22602 topics / 308161 posts / 17993 members" 09:09 < kanzure> hm it has grown 09:11 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:15 -!- voodster [~je@95.129.166.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:18 < seba-> heh 09:18 < seba-> lol 09:18 -!- voodster [~je@95.129.166.182] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 09:19 < seba-> kanzure is anything else that people need? 09:20 < kanzure> seba-: do you mean equipment? 09:20 < seba-> kanzure, also that yes 09:20 < seba-> like DIY stuff 09:20 < kanzure> seba-: http://diyhpl.us/cgit/skdb/tree/doc/BOMs/diybio-equipment.yaml 09:20 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 09:20 < kanzure> seba-: dna synthesizer is the one at the top of my mind 09:21 < seba-> bunsen burners are cheap in aldi/hofer hm 09:21 < seba-> 9 eur 09:21 < seba-> :D 09:21 < kanzure> seba-: electroporation stuff is easy to make, i suppose 09:21 < seba-> scales are cheap from china, i checked against professional scales and they work ok 09:21 < kanzure> seba-: good diy microscopes would be nice, even if you have to buy the lenses separately 09:22 < kanzure> seba-: nmz787 has his spectrophotometer.. 09:22 < seba-> autoclaves = pressure cookers 09:22 < kanzure> did you say you do chemistry things 09:22 < seba-> i'm making a nice UV254nm source 09:22 < seba-> yes 09:23 < kanzure> how are you with phosphor-stuff 09:23 < seba-> what's with phosphor stuff? 09:23 < kanzure> in particular, http://diyhpl.us/wiki/dna/dna-synthesis.html 09:23 < seba-> i've bought a cheap russian scope with good lenses 09:23 < seba-> bought a touret and an extra lens 09:23 < pasky> hmm, I wonder if http://www.hutter1.net/prize/ is still on? 09:23 < seba-> works ok 09:23 < kanzure> seba-: look over the chemistry on that page and let me know what you think 09:24 < kanzure> seba-: also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligonucleotide_synthesis 09:24 < seba-> isn't that quite cheap to order? 09:24 < kanzure> actually no :) 09:24 < seba-> how much is it 09:25 < kanzure> 50-100 million dollars for a genome 09:25 < kanzure> but also, it is important to have this as an amateur capability 09:26 < seba-> i'll maybe look into it, seems kind of interesting 09:26 < kanzure> i've been thinking about a modified chemistry where you make a linked polymer upfront, and then blast each unit in the chain with photons of different frequency to get the unit to convert into one of the four nucleotide-equivalents, instead of step-wise addition of each nucleotide-equivalent 09:27 < kanzure> but that would require a molecule that can respond to four different frequencies of light correctly 09:27 < kanzure> (this is as opposed to the 12-step cap, decap, add dNTPs, wash, rewash, etc reaction that plagues conventional dna synthesizers) 09:28 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:28 < kanzure> one of the other issues is that if your yield at any step is low you significantly constrain the maximum length of dna that you can synthesize 09:28 < kanzure> i mean, correct dna, and correctness matters 09:31 < kanzure> pasky: fwiw #lesswrong has way more AIXI fans than you'll find in here 09:31 < gradstudentbot> Haha, undergrads. 09:32 < kanzure> pasky: i dunno if that's the right hutter actually.. so maybe my comment is mistaken. 09:33 < pasky> I think it probably is, though I'm not that sure :) 09:34 < pasky> i'm not a big fan of aixi in particular, but i'll have to read more about it i guess 09:35 -!- drazak_ is now known as drazak 09:36 < kanzure> seba-: btw why did figuring out the total synthesis of cyanocobalamin take 100 people 10 years? http://www.synarchive.com/syn/71 09:42 < ParahSailin> thats pretty typical for total synthesis 09:43 < kanzure> it looks like just a problem of searching through organic reaction databases and then working backwards 09:43 < kanzure> so it should be solvable by brute force, unless the reactions required are obscure 09:44 < kanzure> like, in most cases, i think that the number of required reactions is going to be less than the number of electrons in the molecule 09:46 < seba-> back then also a lot of reactions weren't known 09:46 < seba-> or partially known 09:47 < kanzure> is there a non-proprietary database with the majority of the known reaction mechanisms? 09:47 < kanzure> that i can get my hands on 09:47 < seba-> http://www.organic-chemistry.org/ 09:48 < seba-> but it doesn't cover all 09:48 < kanzure> iirc there's like 100,000 10:06 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@107-219-148-42.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:18 < nmz787> dang, i hoped/expected more comments on my spectrometer post :/ 10:19 < kanzure> where? 10:24 < nmz787> i posted to PLOTS spectrometer board, diybio 10:24 < nmz787> maybe dorkbot's list 10:24 < nmz787> just posted it to twitter too, thanks to delinquentme's suggestion 10:28 < kanzure> oh, you posted it in that thread 10:28 < kanzure> https://github.com/nmz787/open-spectrometer/blob/master/pcb-design/propeller_square/trace_layers.png 10:37 -!- maaku [~quassel@50-0-36-179.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:38 < seba-> nmz787, how does your spectrometer work? 10:39 < chris_99> nmz787, theres a lot more detail now on the hackaday.io raman thing 10:39 < seba-> nmz787, like the principle behind? 10:40 < chris_99> he explained it to me yesterday actually, if you look at the logs for yesterday 10:40 < nmz787> seba-: umm, it's a microcontroller toggling control lines on an CCD and ADC 10:41 < seba-> nmz787, what do you use for light source/getting correct wavelength 10:43 < nmz787> seba-: i have a bunch of light sources now, nothing tied onto the project yet, though I've been eyeing deuterium flashbulbs from China for a while 10:43 < nmz787> getting correct wavelength is handled by a physical fourier transform thanks to a grating 10:44 < seba-> how does that work? 10:44 < ParahSailin> you know, that pink floyd album cover? 10:44 < ParahSailin> thats a physical fourier transform 10:44 < seba-> ? 10:45 < chris_99> that's refraction rather than diffraction though right 10:45 < gradstudentbot> Got halfway through figuring out all the cell signalling molecules in psoriasis when the cells died and the data couldn't be replicated, so psoriasis is really hard to cure guys don't get it 10:46 -!- maaku [~quassel@50-0-36-179.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:47 -!- maaku is now known as Guest95594 10:47 < nmz787> seba-: umm, it works thanks to QED (quantum electrodynamics) 10:47 < seba-> lol 10:47 < nmz787> seba-: there's a great book on that by feynman that will delight you if interested 10:47 < nmz787> sersly 10:47 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:48 < ParahSailin> pretty sure thats a basic quantum effect, not requiring qed to explain 10:49 < nmz787> ParahSailin: reading qed enlightened me greatly 10:50 < nmz787> ok, g2g to work now 10:52 < nmz787> posted the project to hackaday.io too http://hackaday.io/project/1342-open-Spectrometer 10:54 -!- Guest95594 is now known as maaku 11:21 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:43 -!- hehelleshin is now known as helleshin 11:45 < archels> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1HmYNqp8NM 11:45 < archels> .title 11:45 < yoleaux> Thermal Touch - A New Augmented Reality Interface for Wearables 11:50 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.76] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:01 -!- nmz787_i1 [~nmccorkx@192.55.55.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:01 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.76] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02 -!- nmz787_i1 [~nmccorkx@192.55.55.41] has quit [Client Quit] 12:03 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@192.55.55.37] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:10 < gene_hacker> so you want to do something like this kanzure: http://www.nature.com/nchem/journal/v1/n1/abs/nchem.136.html 12:13 < kanzure> sorta, yes 12:13 < kanzure> the method is commonly called retrosynthetic analysis or retrosynthesis 12:14 < kanzure> i tried to get matt campbell interested in it but nothing ever happened 12:14 < kanzure> it's basically a huge set of graph rules 12:14 < gene_hacker> well I might be able to get him interested again, given that I have to make molecules 12:14 < gene_hacker> been done 12:15 < kanzure> hmm so the blocker at the time that i remember was that i didn't know about a database that i could readily use or convert into an appropriate format 12:15 < kanzure> i don't think pubchem has it http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ 12:16 < gene_hacker> http://arxiv.org/abs/1304.1356 12:16 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/The%20Graph%20Grammar%20Library%20-%20a%20generic%20framework%20for%20chemical%20graph%20rewrite%20systems.pdf 12:16 < kanzure> yep exactly 12:17 < gene_hacker> there's some other stuff by this guy too, just look up chemical graph grammars 12:17 < gene_hacker> I think these guys were the ones trying to do origin of life stuff if I recall correctly 12:17 < kanzure> the data is the most important part. i think the graph manipulation stuff is easy in comparison. 12:18 < kanzure> here are a handful of rules (but this does not seem comprehensive) http://rmg.mit.edu/database/kinetics/families/ 12:19 < gene_hacker> well the library is open source: http://www.tbi.univie.ac.at/software/GGL/ 12:19 < gene_hacker> I'm sure if you ask nicely they might give you the graph grammar rules they have 12:20 < gene_hacker> now I'm curious about one thing 12:20 < gene_hacker> gradstudentbot how's research 12:20 < gradstudentbot> I forgot to make a control group. 12:22 < gene_hacker> now on that photo modulated DNA stuff 12:22 < gene_hacker> if only it were so easy to get molecules to respond to different colors of light 12:23 < kanzure> i haven't looked thoroughly at other things chemists have done, maybe they have already done that 12:23 < kanzure> this seems to be a much larger database: http://www.ebi.ac.uk/rhea/about.xhtml "Rhea is a reaction database, where all reaction participants (reactants and products) are linked to the ChEBI database (Chemical Entities of Biological Interest) which provides detailed information about structure, formula and charge. Rhea provides built-in validations that ensure both elemental and charge balance of the reactions. We have populated the database ... 12:24 < kanzure> ... with the reactions found in the EC list (and in the IntEnz and ENZYME databases), extending it with additional known reactions of biological interest. While the main focus of Rhea is enzyme-catalysed reactions, other biochemical reactions (including those that are often termed "spontaneous") also are included." 12:24 < kanzure> example: curl http://www.ebi.ac.uk/rhea/rest/1.0/ws/reaction/cmlreact/30319 12:24 < gene_hacker> that'd make what I'm doing a lot more useful for winning the feynman prize 12:25 < gene_hacker> well check out that chris wilmer paper, they had a cool way of figuring out what was difficult to synthesize and stuff 12:28 < kanzure> "SPRESI (now part of the National Chemical Database Service provided by RSC). SPRESI is the world's 3rd largest structure and reaction database; consists of chemical structures and reaction information gathered since 1974 from over 645,000 references including 164,000 patents. It includes over 7 million structures, 3.9 million reactions and over 31.7 million pieces of additional information such as chemical and physical properties, reaction ... 12:28 < kanzure> ... conditions and keywords abstracted from the primary literature. Also contains an organic synthesis planning tool." 12:28 < kanzure> 3.9 million reactions 12:30 < kanzure> and all these: 12:30 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organic_reactions 12:35 < kanzure> this site has 4161 reactions listed, http://www.chemthes.com/rxn_dp.php?id=4161 (but the data doesn't look structured to me) 12:51 -!- sapiosexual [~sapiosexu@d205-250-248-248.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:56 < kanzure> gene_hacker: i think getting a chemistry person involved might help on that direction 12:57 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:58 < nmz787_i> kanzure: hopefully you don't have to wait for me to decide to go to phd for chem :P 12:59 < kanzure> nah we can just abduct a cheminformatics person 12:59 < nmz787_i> gene_hacker: are you in portland or just oregon? 12:59 < kanzure> not portland 13:00 < nmz787_i> office chatter 'how will i recognize my chair, they look like all the others' my thoughts "DNA" 13:01 < kanzure> hmm using retrosynthesis for dna synthesis, i dunno 13:01 < kanzure> dna synthesis doesn't really require dna, there are a ton of options (ssDNA, dsDNA, ssRNA, dsRNA, mRNA, tRNA, etc) 13:01 < kanzure> and also the polymerases that were engineered/evolved to work with TNA, GNA, LNA, (or at least a subset of these) 13:02 < kanzure> really you just need something that a polymerase can be made to recognize and correctly copy into ssDNA or w/e 13:03 < nmz787_i> kanzure: i think your lasering beads on a backbone idea sounds too much like the sequencing with TEM idea that cost a lot and then died 13:04 < kanzure> oh sure, it wasn't that serious of a suggestion 13:04 < nmz787_i> i think modifying tdt would be better than that, overall, though sort of has the chicken and egg problem of getting all the modified tdt prototypes 13:04 < kanzure> nano-confinement of individual molecules is unlikely to be easy 13:05 < nmz787_i> use photoisomerizable groups that respond to diff wavelengths 13:05 < nmz787_i> nah you could just tether it, then have your beam radius the tether length 13:05 < kanzure> tdt would also require you to figure out ratcheting and start/stop 13:05 < nmz787_i> i don't think so 13:05 < nmz787_i> well 13:05 < nmz787_i> in the sense that getting the photocontrol to work 13:05 < nmz787_i> not pulsing light would mean it wasn't moving 13:06 < kanzure> the advantage of already having a polymerized backbone is that you don't have to do the cap/decap chemistry 13:08 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:08 < kanzure> i wonder if there is a thicker kind of polymerase-compatible dna we could make 13:08 < nmz787_i> but then you have to have a subwavelength beam 13:08 < nmz787_i> better than what intel is doing now 13:08 < nmz787_i> so that'll be some time, unless you use electron or ion beams 13:08 -!- kuudes_ [~vuokra@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c7-183.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:08 < nmz787_i> without beating intel on diffractive optics 13:09 < kanzure> what about peptide or amino acid sequence synthesis 13:11 < nmz787_i> hmm? 13:11 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:11 < kanzure> dunno 13:11 < kanzure> i am just saying things. don't listen. 13:12 -!- kuudes [~vuokra@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c7-183.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:12 -!- kuudes_ is now known as kuudes 13:21 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:23 < kanzure> .g bglbrick 13:23 < yoleaux> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20205762 13:23 < kanzure> .title 13:23 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1186%2F1754-1611-4-1 13:23 < yoleaux> BglBricks: A flexible standard for biological par... [J Biol Eng. 2010] 13:24 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:31 < kanzure> hm i wonder why nobody has cited this in the last six years: 13:31 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/DNA/Photoelectromechanical%20synthesis%20of%20low-cost%20DNA%20microarrays%20-%20thesis%20-%202008.pdf 13:36 < kanzure> ooh, "photoremovable protecting groups in chemistry and biology" https://givensgroup.drupal.ku.edu/sites/givensgroup.drupal.ku.edu/files/docs/pubs/120.pdf 13:36 < kanzure> that is a cool paper 13:38 -!- AshleyWaffle_ is now known as AshleyWaffle 13:38 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:44 < kanzure> "Mechanism-Based Design of a Photoactivatable Firefly Luciferase" "We developed a photoactivatable firefly luciferase (pfLuc) whose activation can be 13:44 < kanzure> controlled by light." http://web.pkusz.edu.cn/zhao/files/2013/05/ja4013535.pdf 13:46 < kanzure> "Photoswitching of Enzyme Activity by Laser-Induced pH-Jump" hm 13:47 < kanzure> "Release of Guests from Encapsulated Masked Hydrophobic Precursors by a Phototrigger" 13:53 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:55 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:55 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@192.55.55.37] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:55 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-mplapgfdfhcwbygx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:16 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:40 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:40 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:41 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:43 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:59 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 15:06 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:06 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:17 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@159.171.124.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:21 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@107-219-148-42.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:54 -!- sapiosexual is now known as sapiosexual|AFK 16:01 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:18 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:23 < kanzure> "You want very, very low impedance for bypassing (DC) so short distances for SM caps and avoid long ground lines and 'loops' -- which it looks like you are doing. Mohm impedance signal lines (ADC input?) can be isolated by ground area but avoid adding a lot of extra capacitance to ground by trace-length over/next to ground -- it looks like you've probably done ok. The default 8-mil trace widths of many layout programs is an inherent pitfall ... 16:23 < kanzure> ... for RF design so use wide traces for power, grounds, etc.and say 15-mil or so for important high-impedance signal lines -- though it sounds like you've kept them short which is good." 16:24 < kanzure> "Finally, use a super-clean DC supply or add secondary on-board regulation for an added 30+ dB supply noise immunity. Wall-warts can be rather noisy and infect your design but local bypassed regulation can do wonders." 16:26 < kanzure> unrelated, but "Credit cards had a long and complex history, starting out as something the wealthy (who were used to dealing with banks and credit) and only become a mass market, nationwide item in 1966. People didn't understand or trust credit cards at first and it took significant marketing efforts to get people to see them as "just like cash". (The limits on liability when cards are lost or stolen were actually made into law at the ... 16:26 < kanzure> ... bank's request, as a way of gaining trust.)" i didn't know that they were the ones that proposed the law 16:35 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:41 < kanzure> fenn, roman lygin replied to me the other day, haven't written back 16:42 < kanzure> "i got a response from an ex-employee at opencascade (someone who has sort of been going around the web apologizing for the sad state of opencascade's source code for years now): "I have read that commercial kernels represent investments of 400+ person-years. That seems reasonable and OCC is likely about the same scale. Another reference is that RGK (Russian Geometric Kernel) the government sponsored project took $20M, and only for the first ... 16:42 < kanzure> ... phase. With that, I am skeptical that setting a goal of having one more modeling kernel would be reasonable one. Of course, in no way do I want to discourage your efforts (and truth to be told, I was impressed with the detailed descriptions you collected on some packages). But I'm just trying to suggest if you choose the proper target to address ;-)." 16:42 < kanzure> oops, that was the wrong pretext, i didn't mean to paste that one in particular. oh well. 16:42 < kanzure> otherwise correct quote 16:52 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:15 < kanzure> http://isicad.net/articles.php?article_num=16135 "This paper describes RGK (Russian geometric kernel) as part of a project funded by the Russian Federation's Ministry of Industry and Trade to build up a foundation of independent components important to Russian's high technology sector." 17:17 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khtyT7lMc2k 17:17 < yoleaux> Перемещение механизма 1 17:17 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqkOqskWbEQ 17:17 < yoleaux> Перемещение механизма 2 17:17 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG63pzCh91c 17:17 < yoleaux> Перемещение механизма 3 17:20 < kanzure> "Russian national 3D kernel" http://isicad.net/articles.php?article_num=15189 (basic background) 17:28 < kanzure> "According to Nikolay Snytnikov, COO of LEDAS and the head of a developers' team responsible for implementing NURBS library and the algorithms for constructing surface-surface intersections, the success of the project was not least at all determined by a factor that the involved companies already had considerable experience in geometric modeling, in total reaching several hundreds man-years. .. In the course of the Round Table an issue was ... 17:28 < kanzure> ... raised about a possible role of RGK in development of Russian machine-tool industry, the output of which nowadays is below the level reached in the Soviet period." 17:31 < kanzure> http://www.3dcadworld.com/russian-cad/ says: 17:31 < kanzure> "Russia’s rise to preeminence in CAD software development was spurred by the dissolution of the Soviet Union, after which many of Russia’s top minds in the physical and theoretical sciences found themselves reduced to penury. Beginning in the mid 1990s, as economic reforms allowed private investment in Russia, multinational corporations, including IBM and Intel, started to take advantage of the large pool of highly-educated scientists and ... 17:32 < kanzure> ... mathematicians in Russia. Intel, in particular, recognized that Russia was an ideal venue for the development of mathematically intense graphics software." 17:32 < kanzure> "One notable CAD vendor that, early on, recognized the mathematical strengths of Russian software developers was Dassault Systemes. In 1996, DS started working with the Russian Research Institute of Artificial Intelligence, and, subsequently, with Ledas, a spin-out of the institute and the AI Lab of the Institute of Informatics Systems in Novosibirsk, Siberia. DS and Ledas worked together continuously until 2011, successfully completing 11 ... 17:32 < kanzure> ... major contracts. The components developed by Ledas as part of that relationship were incorporated into DS’s CATIA V5 and V6 CAD programs, and have, according to DS, proven their reliability and performance in a full industrial context." 17:37 < kanzure> pretty dumb that the ai lab is the one writing their geometry software 17:39 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:49 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:52 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:53 -!- wassthe [~wassthe@158.100.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:54 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:56 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:03 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:04 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-76-167-105-53.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:06 < joepie91_> http://ar.to/2010/01/set-your-code-free 18:08 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:22 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:22 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:31 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:35 -!- kuudes [~vuokra@dsl-olubrasgw2-58c0c7-183.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: kuudes] 18:37 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:37 -!- cpopell`zzz is now known as cpopell 18:43 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:43 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:45 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:50 -!- jmil [~jmil@hive76/member/jmil] has quit [Quit: jmil] 18:54 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:55 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 19:07 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:41 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-mplapgfdfhcwbygx] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:51 -!- Adifex is now known as night 19:56 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.41.218] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:00 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.41.218] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:01 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:14 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@c-67-188-197-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:23 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:24 -!- AshleyWaffle [~waffle@gateway/tor-sasl/anastasiawyatt] has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 20:34 -!- AshleyWaffle [~waffle@gateway/tor-sasl/anastasiawyatt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:36 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:40 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:50 < kanzure> .title http://search.newport.com/?q=*&x2=sku&q2=9064-XY-M 20:50 < yoleaux> Search Newport 20:50 < kanzure> "Triple Divide XY Axis Translation Stage, 28 mm Travel, M4 and M6" 20:50 < kanzure> $500 20:59 < kanzure> xanadu has a released product? huh 21:03 < nmz787> xanadu as in ted nelson? 21:04 < kanzure> yep 21:05 < nmz787> hmm 21:05 < nmz787> it is confusing 21:06 < kanzure> it is xanadu 21:17 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:20 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:23 -!- Viper168_ is now known as Viper168 21:42 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@c-67-188-197-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:44 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@107-219-148-42.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:55 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:00 -!- petrushka [~asakharov@24.60.79.55] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:08 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:14 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 22:15 < kanzure> http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/06/operation-tovar-targets-gameover-zeus-botnet-cryptolocker-scourge/ 22:17 < kanzure> post from 2009 where he was selling an exploit pack (or, rather, someone related to him): https://xakepy.cc/showthread.php?t=54708 22:21 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:22 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:27 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:29 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:40 < kanzure> .title http://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_413 22:40 < yoleaux> Evading from linux containers 22:41 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 22:45 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 22:45 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:45 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 22:45 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:48 -!- justanot1eruser [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:48 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Client Quit] 22:48 -!- justanot1eruser is now known as justanotheruser 22:51 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:56 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-76-167-105-53.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:59 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:01 -!- joepie91_ [5064fe45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.100.254.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:04 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:06 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:30 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:32 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:39 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:41 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:43 -!- petrushka [~asakharov@24.60.79.55] has quit [Quit: quit] 23:46 < kanzure> you guys are boring 23:48 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@107-219-148-42.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:50 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:53 < nmz787> :/ 23:53 < nmz787> i've been watching ren and stimpy 23:58 < nmz787> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3065121/pdf/nihms278766.pdf 23:58 < nmz787> .title 23:58 < yoleaux> nmz787: Sorry, that command (.title) crashed. 23:59 < nmz787> anyway screws cast into pdms for screw valves 23:59 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 23:59 < nmz787> there is at least one good pic --- Log closed Thu Jun 05 00:00:25 2014