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07:29 < kumavis> woah nice 07:37 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-176-93.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:01 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:04 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.41.218] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:18 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:27 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@dyn-72-33-82-229.uwnet.wisc.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:28 -!- QuadIngi [~fourfire@159.171.124.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:29 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@dyn-72-33-82-229.uwnet.wisc.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:33 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:43 < kanzure> http://numbbbbb.github.io/the-swift-programming-language-in-chinese/ 08:53 -!- nshsome [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:53 -!- strangewarp_ [~strangewa@c-67-176-51-230.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:54 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:54 -!- mosasaur [~mosasaur@unaffiliated/mosasaur] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:57 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@159.171.124.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:57 < kanzure> meh https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1537608281/lazerblade-the-affordable-laser-cutter-engraver 08:57 < kanzure> "With it's current motor / belt / pulley setup, the LazerBlade has a mechanical resolution of 0.08-0.1mm. " 09:06 -!- ianmathwiz7 [~chatzilla@68-115-57-210.static.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:06 -!- ianmathwiz7 [~chatzilla@68-115-57-210.static.eucl.wi.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 09:10 -!- nshsome [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:12 < ParahSailin> kanzure: am i seeing this correct that they added ADTs? 09:13 < kanzure> who what 09:13 < kanzure> i don't know what it had before 09:14 < kanzure> so i dunno what has been added/removed 09:14 < kanzure> did it exist in public before the apple announcement? 09:42 < kanzure> mechanical engineering class project to build a maskless photolithography device (rotating disc, laser diode, etc): http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/optics/photolithography/ME450%20-%20Maskless%20photolithography%20system%20(project)%20-%202009.pdf 09:48 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:49 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:52 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@209.97.231.117] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:53 -!- maaku [~quassel@50-0-36-179.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 09:54 -!- maaku [~quassel@50-0-36-179.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:54 -!- maaku is now known as Guest84338 09:59 < ParahSailin> haha, they really cashing in https://experiment.com/projects/azolla-a-little-fern-with-massive-green-potential 09:59 < ParahSailin> this project is $2k tops 10:03 -!- Guest80266 is now known as abetusk 10:07 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:08 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.137.75] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:09 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.171.1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:09 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.171.1] has quit [Changing host] 10:09 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:10 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:12 -!- nmz787_i1 [~nmccorkx@134.134.137.75] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:13 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.137.75] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:14 < archels> "A chatbot pretending to be a 13-year-old Ukrainian boy made waves last weekend when its programmers announced that it had passed the Turing test. But the judges of this test were apparently easily fooled, because any cursory exchange with ‘Eugene Goosterman’ reveals the machine inside the ghost. Maybe the time has come, 60 years after Alan Turing’s death, to discard the idea that imitating human conversation is a good test of arti 10:14 < archels> total non sequitur 10:16 < kanzure> "blah blah blah, we don't understand that stupid stuff can show up in the media, so we're going to pay it undue attention because we're morons" 10:23 -!- Guest84338 is now known as maaku 10:23 < seba-> let's make a cure for cancer 10:23 < seba-> sharp knives cure cancer 10:24 < kanzure> .title http://www.burnttransistors.com/2012/03/microphone-array-beamformer-demo.html 10:24 < yoleaux> Burnt Transistors: Microphone Array Beamformer Demo 10:24 < archels> Kevin Warwick is not exactly the most media shy personality out there, but this is lascivious even for him 10:24 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5uWFAGzV1A0 10:24 < yoleaux> FPGA-based Microphone Array Beamformer Demo 10:24 < archels> I hope the Reading crowd get adequately lambasted 10:24 -!- sapiosexual [~sapiosexu@d173-183-74-201.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:24 < kanzure> .title http://www.burnttransistors.com/2013/03/nano-quadrocopters.html 10:24 < yoleaux> Burnt Transistors: Nano-Quadrocopters 10:24 < kanzure> https://sourceforge.net/projects/nanoquad/files/ 10:26 < kanzure> archels: yeah, warwick should have been hated ever since he declared himself "the first cyborg" 10:26 < gradstudentbot> That's beyond the scope of my research. 10:27 < kanzure> seba-: this is a good way to do deep brain cancer surgery things, http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ultrasound/ 10:28 < seba-> can't we invent a biochemical way to treat cancer 10:28 < kanzure> nope, it's not allowed 10:29 < seba-> kanzure why not 10:29 < kanzure> :) 10:30 < seba-> i think we are lacking a piece of the puzzle 10:30 < seba-> DCA and hyperforin seem to activate something 10:31 < kanzure> there are many different cancers that are each mechanically different 10:31 < seba-> why do they activate caspases 10:31 < seba-> kanzure, yes sure, but for example DCA seems to work for many 10:31 < seba-> isn't that weird 10:31 < kanzure> caspase happens because inflammation and inflammation is critical for many body functions 10:32 < seba-> both trigger apoptosis of cancerous cells 10:32 < seba-> bizzare hm 10:32 < kanzure> if you go looking for "coincidences" in biology you will find tons 10:32 < kanzure> millions 10:34 < seba-> yes sure 10:39 < kanzure> .tell nmz787 you should take measurements on the microscope's ocular ports and projector's exit port, and then tell me those numbers, so that i can figure out adapter things 10:39 < yoleaux> kanzure: I'll pass your message to nmz787. 10:39 < kanzure> .tell nmz787 also pics of those two's ports would help (but the measurements are more important i think) 10:39 < yoleaux> kanzure: I'll pass your message to nmz787. 10:39 < ParahSailin> has there been any new research on dichloroacetate? 10:40 < ParahSailin> every time one of my friends has a dog dying of cancer i try to get them to feed it to the dog 10:40 < kanzure> why do your friends have so many cancer dogs? 10:40 < kanzure> sheena: poke 10:40 < ParahSailin> every dog dies of cancer i think 10:41 < ParahSailin> unless they get hit by a car first 10:41 -!- petrush [~asakharov@24.60.79.55] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:43 < ParahSailin> only got one friend to feed DCA to a cancer dog 10:43 < ParahSailin> n=1 result was "it made him bleed more so i stopped giving it to him" 10:47 < sheena> i think most any mammal dies of cancer if it lives long enough. ttyl 10:50 < ParahSailin> goats dont normally die of cancer afaik 10:56 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@209.97.231.117] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:56 -!- strangewarp_ [~strangewa@209.97.231.117] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:03 -!- strangewarp_ is now known as strangewarp 11:05 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:09 < seba-> ParahSailin, anything more than that? 11:10 < ParahSailin> sorry, it was a poorly designed experiment 11:11 -!- mosasaur [~mosasaur@unaffiliated/mosasaur] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:11 < seba-> ParahSailin, not even how long was the dog taking? 11:11 < seba-> nothing 11:11 < seba-> ParahSailin, check out also hypericin from hypericum perforatum 11:18 -!- nshsome [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:28 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:28 < delinquentme> paperbot, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1934590914001921 11:28 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4757a15586aa4daeea2de89402459b55.txt 11:32 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.171.1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:32 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@dyn-72-33-82-229.uwnet.wisc.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:32 < heath> does anyone have an example github profile rss feed url? 11:32 < heath> there was something i starred recently but I can't recall what it is and the public feed available on the site only goes back so far 11:33 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure.atom 11:35 < heath> yeah 11:35 < heath> just figured that out 11:35 < heath> thanks 11:39 < kanzure> it is strange that google scholar searches patents by default 11:39 < kanzure> why would patents be considered scholarly 11:39 < heath> they are associated with professors at unis? 11:42 * heath needs rss feed reader which goes beyond 30 messages 11:42 < heath> feedly is down 11:45 < kanzure> they are being DDOSed 11:45 < kanzure> been going on for a few days 11:46 < kanzure> they refused to pay the attackers, posted on a blog somewhere about it 11:46 < heath> i read 11:46 < kanzure> i didn't.. 11:46 < joepie91_> extortion ddos 11:47 < kanzure> isn't extortion fun? 11:47 < kanzure> there should be a board game about that 11:47 < heath> i wonder if any of these extortion attempts actually work 11:47 < kanzure> "now you can extort your whole family" 11:47 < joepie91_> heath: they do, yes 11:47 < kanzure> "by Hasbro" 11:47 < heath> joepie91_: by actually work, i mean they get larger sums than a few thousand dollars 11:47 < joepie91_> if you hit a small online shop, then they'll probably give you 2k without too much hassle 11:48 < joepie91_> because being down costs them more 11:48 < joepie91_> right 11:48 < joepie91_> not sure about that 11:48 < joepie91_> the problem is that there's a point where an extortion target is rich enough to afford proper protection 11:48 < kanzure> the cost of an attack is usually less than that anyway 11:48 < kanzure> so you are net positive 11:48 < joepie91_> and would rather spend his money on that, than on your extortion 11:49 < gradstudentbot> Someone's sitting at my bench space. 11:51 < kanzure> gigapixel microscopy using a flatbed scanner http://arxiv.org/pdf/1209.4045.pdf 11:55 -!- _0bitcount [~big-byte@213.37.172.228.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:57 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:02 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: strages__ 12:02 -!- strages__ [sid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zhhppjtjyneiasmy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:10 < nmz787_i1> kanzure: got your message about measuring my scope 12:10 < nmz787_i1> you should probably try to figure out what a good micrometer is 12:10 < nmz787_i1> we forgot to ask fenn 12:14 < heath> anyone know of an rss reader which is able to go beyond the initial results supplied by the server? 12:14 < nmz787_i1> wtf are profs too lazy to write grants now? https://experiment.com/projects/azolla-a-little-fern-with-massive-green-potential 12:14 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@209.97.231.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:14 < nmz787_i1> heath: can't you just use python to read it? 12:14 < heath> i'd rather not build this one right now 12:16 < heath> the feedparser lib itself also just grabs the initial results supplied by the server 12:17 < ParahSailin> nmz787_i1: they are also trying to buy sequencing stupidly 12:17 < ParahSailin> they appear to be going for a "rapid run" as opposed to high output hiseq lanes 12:17 < ParahSailin> paying extra for less, lower quality data 12:18 < ParahSailin> i wouldnt necessarily pay for that much pacbio sequence either 12:20 < heath> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/576552/how-do-i-fetch-all-old-items-on-an-rss-feed 12:22 < heath> wat 12:22 < heath> there is feed history extension for atom being proposed 12:22 < heath> oh well 12:22 < heath> guess i'll have to use the brain on this one 12:23 < heath> i'll be quiet since it isn't relevant 12:23 < kanzure> what was the repo about 12:24 < heath> i was looking for this https://github.com/datasciencemasters/go 12:26 < kanzure> http://code.google.com/p/microlith/ "image simulation for microscopy and lithography systems" 12:27 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@dyn-72-33-82-229.uwnet.wisc.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:28 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-67-176-51-230.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:37 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:40 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:47 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:52 -!- nmz787_i1 [~nmccorkx@134.134.137.75] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:52 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@192.55.55.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:00 < nmz787_i> "zip file containing original papers on diffraction theory of imaging by Ernst Abbe (original paper in German and its English translation) and by Lord Rayleigh." https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-mA2Q2RdhdoVjBvM2lqQW9OSHM 13:05 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@128.211.171.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:06 -!- joepie91_ [5064fe45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.100.254.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:19 -!- andrew [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:19 -!- andrew [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:19 -!- andrew [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:19 -!- andrew is now known as justanotheruser 13:41 < nmz787_i> kanzure: python-brlcad has no gui right? 13:41 < nmz787_i> i saw the examples folder 13:41 < nmz787_i> i'm not sure who/what is hilbert tho 13:42 < nmz787_i> i'm guessing something like this http://www.mi.sanu.ac.rs/vismath/sequin1/Hilbert64ell.GIF 13:46 < kanzure> what does hilbert have to do with python-brlcad? 13:47 < kanzure> yeah there's no gui, but brlcad has its own fucked up gui (it's faster to ignore it) 14:03 < nmz787_i> its an example in your repo 14:03 < nmz787_i> i wonder if they did good security for this https://ideone.com/ 14:04 < kanzure> someone else added those hilbert files 14:05 < kanzure> i assume they are hilbert spaces 14:06 -!- TeMPOraL [~user@89-68-70-120.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:07 < kanzure> at the moment there's no live-rendering as you work in python-brlcad 14:07 < kanzure> pythonocc has that, so you can render while you do things in ipython 14:24 < nmz787_i> so is pythonocc alternative to brlcad? 14:25 < nmz787_i> or would we integrate them? 14:28 < kanzure> pythonocc is a swig/python wrapper around opencascade (a cad engine that is not brlcad) 14:29 < kanzure> the problem with anything opencascade related (opencascade, pythonocc, heekscad, freecad, etc) is that opencascade itself is extremely hard to maintain because it's poorly written/maintained 14:29 < kanzure> this is not a reasonable piece of software: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/cad/opencascade/ 14:30 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:31 < kanzure> opencascade is about 1.05 million lines of code 14:33 < kanzure> brlcad is 2.42 million lines of code, although tends to be much easier to maintain 14:34 < kanzure> oh wait, i remember now 14:34 < kanzure> brlcad includes a bunch of randomly-vendorized things in its source code 14:35 < kanzure> like tk, tcl, tkhtml, xmltools, libpng, sqlite3 14:36 < kanzure> without that brlcad is 1.084 million lines of code 14:44 < dpk> paperbot: http://llc.oxfordjournals.org/content/7/4/218.full.pdf 14:44 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1093%2Fllc%2F7.4.218 14:45 < kanzure> paperbot should give out consolation prizes 14:47 < dpk> perhaps we can work that into the new version 14:48 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:52 < nmz787_i> .title 14:52 < yoleaux> 404 Not Found 14:52 < nmz787_i> http://llc.oxfordjournals.org/content/7/4/218.full.pdf 14:52 < nmz787_i> .title 14:52 < yoleaux> Sign In 14:52 < nmz787_i> "Historicl Thesaurus Datanase Using Ingres" 14:52 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1093%2Fllc%2F7.4.218 14:52 < nmz787_i> why did spelling errors get past the editors? 14:53 < kanzure> data entry happens afterwards 14:55 -!- _0bitcount [~big-byte@213.37.172.228.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:03 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:05 -!- pete4242 [~smuxi@24.146.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:10 < nmz787_i> this guy seems like he's smart and interested in collab https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/oce-dev/vYgwOcQe7_c 15:10 < nmz787_i> "Thomas Paviot" 15:10 < kanzure> he hates me 15:10 < nmz787_i> did you tell him off??? 15:10 < kanzure> he told me off :) 15:11 < nmz787_i> hmm 15:11 < nmz787_i> usually isn't it the other way around? 15:11 < nmz787_i> at least first 15:11 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:12 < kanzure> i don't really want to go dig up the circumstances, but it involved an email from him to me where he laid out all the wonderful reasons why he thought i was a terrible person 15:14 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@dyn-72-33-82-229.uwnet.wisc.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:14 < kanzure> oh yeah.. they were angry about a presentation i did about opencascade. 15:15 < kanzure> "We trusted you but you decided you go by your own, without even sending us any draft of your presentation. You failed. It's a fault. In any professional organization, you would immediately be fired. As a consequence, we do not ever want to have something to do with you again, whether or not it's related to pythonocc. I also removed your email adress from the pythonocc-users ml. Good bye, and good luck anyway for your future projects." 15:16 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:17 < kanzure> fwiw, i apologized to them but they didn't reply 15:18 < nmz787_i> did you badmouth them or something? 15:19 < nmz787_i> 'this project sucks'? 15:19 < kanzure> nope 15:19 < nmz787_i> did you give away trade sekrets? 15:19 < kanzure> hm, maybe? that's possible 15:22 < seba-> kanzure wtf lol 15:22 < seba-> what did you do 15:22 < seba-> that you got disowned 15:22 < kanzure> gave a presentation in public 15:22 < kanzure> didn't show them the slides before i presented 15:22 < seba-> so? 15:22 < kanzure> lolexactly 15:23 < seba-> wtf 15:23 < seba-> what are they 13? 15:23 < kanzure> french 15:23 -!- kuldeepdhaka [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:23 < seba-> so? 15:23 < seba-> wtf 15:23 < seba-> i don't get it 15:23 < seba-> what? 15:23 < seba-> trusted you? what? 15:23 < kanzure> people are allowed to dislike other people 15:23 < seba-> i don't get it 15:23 < kanzure> in fact, i dislike tons of people 15:23 -!- maaku [~quassel@50-0-36-179.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:24 < seba-> no but i don't get it 15:24 < seba-> what you did wrong 15:24 < seba-> in their eyes 15:24 < seba-> i don't see it 15:28 -!- maaku [~quassel@50-0-36-179.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:28 -!- maaku is now known as Guest40907 15:47 < jrayhawk_> sounds like a delightful sort of "we must unify identities and share motivations at all times" sort of collaboration 15:55 < nmz787_i> kanzure: do you still have the slides you presented? 15:56 < nmz787_i> stop not-sharing them with us, you not-sharer 16:21 -!- nmz787_i1 [~nmccorkx@192.55.55.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:21 -!- nmz787_i1 [~nmccorkx@192.55.55.41] has quit [Client Quit] 16:23 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@192.55.55.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:26 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-dnmuqoxpbvkujtax] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:28 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-dnmuqoxpbvkujtax] has quit [Client Quit] 16:44 < kanzure> hah. yes i should have those somewhere. 16:44 < kanzure> possibly even on the web 16:50 -!- TeMPOraL [~user@89-68-70-120.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: :)] 16:54 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-uywbqqmomunjjngl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:00 < kanzure> "Very high resolution space telescope using the Earth atmosphere as the objective lens" http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/bitstream/2014/19082/1/98-0286.pdf 17:01 < nmz787_i> hmm, i would think gravity would differ enough to cause some aberration of the lens 17:01 < nmz787_i> maybe I'm bad at physics though 17:06 < kanzure> hm, you could use high altitude weather balloons and other sources for weather data to compute atmospheric conditions that are influencing the signal 17:06 < delinquentme> kanzure, nmz787 By calculating the gravity distortion effects on light from a known cluster of galaxies, we make a *REALLY* fucking big telescope http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-telescope-bigger-than-a-galaxy 17:08 < kanzure> .title http://frontierfields.org/ 17:08 < yoleaux> Pushing the Limits of the Hubble Space Telescope 17:13 < kanzure> http://www.stsci.edu/hst/campaigns/frontier-fields/Publications 17:15 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:15 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-76-167-105-53.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:17 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:51 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@dyn-72-33-82-229.uwnet.wisc.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:51 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:57 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@dyn-72-33-82-229.uwnet.wisc.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:02 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:15 < kanzure> paperbot: http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2009/pp/b909128a 18:15 < kanzure> .title 18:15 < yoleaux> The sunny side of chemistry: green synthesis by solar light 18:15 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/The%20sunny%20side%20of%20chemistry%3A%20green%20synthesis%20by%20solar%20light.pdf 18:15 < kanzure> i think their idea is "you can mass-produce photopolymers faster than you can produce solar cells" 18:37 < gene_hacker> polymers are cheaper than silicon 18:38 < gene_hacker> that and that's probably better than how we do chemistry now 18:38 < gene_hacker> using large amounts of heat 18:43 < kanzure> solar cells are reusable, at least 19:00 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-67-176-51-230.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:01 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-67-176-51-230.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:29 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:37 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:07 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:10 -!- PoohBear is now known as Pooh|L4D 20:20 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.41.218] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:48 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:50 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@147.69.41.218] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.41.218] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:51 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:51 -!- Pooh|L4D is now known as PoohBear 21:01 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:10 < nmz787> kanzure: just send me one of these and i'll measure everything http://www.intelligentmp.com/sf100xcel.html 21:10 < yoleaux> 12 Jun 2014 17:39Z nmz787: you should take measurements on the microscope's ocular ports and projector's exit port, and then tell me those numbers, so that i can figure out adapter things 21:10 < yoleaux> 12 Jun 2014 17:39Z nmz787: also pics of those two's ports would help (but the measurements are more important i think) 21:24 < kanzure> debian was mailing itself to the department of commerce? https://ftp-master.debian.org/crypto-in-main/notification-for-archive.txt 21:32 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@147.69.41.218] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50 -!- yash [~ffffff@cpe-76-167-105-53.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:54 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-76-167-105-53.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:59 < nmz787> kanzure: didn;t find the slides? 21:59 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.41.218] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:59 -!- sapiosexual is now known as sapiosexual|AFK 22:05 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:13 < kanzure> the who? 22:15 -!- sapiosexual|AFK [~sapiosexu@d173-183-74-201.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:16 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.41.218] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:16 -!- joepie91_ [5064fe45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.100.254.69] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:23 -!- sapiosexual [~sapiosexu@d173-183-74-201.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:29 -!- yash [~ffffff@cpe-76-167-105-53.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:30 -!- sapiosexual_ [~sapiosexu@d173-183-74-201.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:33 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-227-67-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:33 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-227-159-52.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:34 -!- sapiosexual [~sapiosexu@d173-183-74-201.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:35 -!- sapiosexual_ is now known as sapiosexual 22:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.41.218] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:44 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:47 < kanzure> an okay generic su8 page http://memscyclopedia.org/su8.html 22:50 < kanzure> win 5 22:51 < kanzure> dfkldafadjalf 23:04 < kanzure> this seems silly, 23:04 < kanzure> .title http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S092540051300717X 23:04 < yoleaux> Chemical synthesis and sensing in inexpensive thread-based microdevices 23:04 < kanzure> "Here, we report chemical syntheses (inorganic and organic) and sensing using threads as microchannels. We first characterized the liquid transport through thread channels and then measured typical sample losses due to adsorption and evaporation. Next, we demonstrated synthesis of ferric hydroxide in a Y-geometry thread reactor and detected the product by colorimetry. Our low-cost device gave a product yield of 84% compared to a test ... 23:05 < kanzure> ... tube-based synthesis. We also synthesized (with ∼72% yield) and detected colorless 2,4-dichloro-N-(2-morpholinoethyl) benzamide in an attempt to demonstrate an organic reaction in a thread device. Finally, we successfully detected bovine serum albumin and the glucose present in blood plasma as examples of detection of chemical substances relevant in diagnostics. Our results indicate that cotton and silk threads are indeed suitable ... 23:05 < kanzure> ... materials for incorporation into field-deployable disposable chemical reaction and sensing systems." 23:05 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3779262/ 23:05 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d43451012ba93e9f655c2f15004e2e91.txt 23:05 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-uywbqqmomunjjngl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:05 < kanzure> definitely a bug 23:05 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3779262/pdf/BIOMGB-000007-051501_1.pdf 23:06 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/dd6631102fd83eebe71e86b8c6655865.pdf 23:10 < kanzure> capillary circuit components http://wikisites.mcgill.ca/djgroup/images/archive/b/b3/20131004150519!38-Safavieh-Capillarics-LabChip-2013-Final.pdf 23:19 < ebowden> paperbot http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S092540051300717X 23:19 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/85f259a729166e57af37d8a772d7b3f6.txt 23:23 < kanzure> su8/pdms inkjet printer http://www.rsc.org/images/loc/2013/PDFs/Papers/214_0483.pdf 23:24 < nmz787> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5i9f9GJS9M 23:24 < nmz787> .title 23:24 < yoleaux> Tour of Ben's shop 2012 23:25 < nmz787> "I'd say that a CNC mill is probably the single most versatile piece of mechanical manufacturing equipment that you can buy. If you can afford and have space for a full-size mill, you will be in really good shape in terms of being able to make almost any reasonable part. Some of the smaller tabletop CNCs are not able to cut metal (even aluminum) very much at all, so they are much more limited. You can certainly cur threads on the CNC, but ... 23:25 < nmz787> ... just having a tap set is often more than sufficient for most projects." 23:25 < kanzure> yep 23:26 * kanzure sleeps 23:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.41.218] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:48 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.41.218] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.41.218] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Jun 13 00:00:33 2014