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It will keep hacking them until it's something else. 01:17 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:18 -!- trsohmers [4c15752c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.21.117.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:27 < mosasaur> ofc that may happen after humans are extinct 01:28 -!- ||0_-_0|| [uid34064@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-elcnidxadjsxmhpl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:28 < ||0_-_0||> paperbot http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1697402 01:28 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2F346818a0 01:31 -!- Simurg [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:31 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@95.5.109.77] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:31 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@95.5.109.77] has quit [Changing host] 01:31 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:41 -!- DeadBear is now known as PoohBear 01:51 -!- pettre [~asakharov@24.60.79.55] has quit [Quit: quit] 02:06 -!- ebowden 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I have enough other papers to read. 10:36 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-24-37-9.ppp.as43234.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:38 < chris_99> nmz787, you about? 10:47 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:49 < kanzure> huh, the market is much larger than i anticipated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_volcanoes 10:54 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:54 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:00 < ParahSailin> market? 11:01 < kanzure> volcano real estate 11:10 < nmz787> chris_99: hi 11:10 < chris_99> hey, i was just wondering what power co2 laser you used for the PCBs you mentiond a while back 11:10 < chris_99> with the black paint 11:12 < nmz787> mmm 11:12 < nmz787> it was one of those Las Vegas converted from chinese lasers 11:12 < chris_99> was it a chinese laser cutter you mean 11:13 < chris_99> one of the small ones 11:13 < nmz787> ahh http://fslaser.com/ 11:13 < nmz787> I think it was a 40W 11:13 < nmz787> a 25W would likely work though 11:13 < nmz787> as the point was just to convert the paint to ash 11:13 < chris_99> gotcha that's about normal for the mini cutters 11:40 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-24-37-9.ppp.as43234.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:45 < nmz787> can anyone in here get me this? http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07328319108046457#.U6Xg7vldXEn 12:45 < nmz787> paperbot: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07328319108046457#.U6Xg7vldXEn 12:45 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/dc3634b8805ca546fadcae1fc60748d1.txt 12:45 < nmz787> i thought so 13:14 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@78.174.52.121] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:14 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@78.174.52.121] has quit [Changing host] 13:14 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:25 < heath> i don't get the point of ionic still 13:25 < heath> and i don't understand why app.js is converted to an html file by cordova 13:25 * heath is, as you can tell, a fantastic mobile dev 13:43 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:44 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:08 -!- joepie91_ [5064fe45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.100.254.69] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:20 -!- kyknos__ [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:27 -!- kyknos [~kyknos@89.233.130.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:28 -!- GabrielRuizLA is now known as DerekHoagland 15:29 -!- DerekHoagland is now known as |DerekHoagland| 15:51 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-67-176-51-230.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:06 -!- EnLilaSko [EnLilaSko@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:13 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@8.36.227.149] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:14 < kanzure> joepie91_: hi 16:21 < nmz787> kanzure: in the abi 391 manual on pg 230 they actually show exploded views 16:22 < nmz787> kanzure: i can see Zilog on pg 233 16:30 < kanzure> yes? 16:38 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:02 < kanzure> so let's see.. 17:02 < kanzure> .wa 1920 * 1080 * 30 17:02 < kanzure> assuming 30 bp per oligo 17:02 < yoleaux> 1920×1080×30: 62208000; Scientific notation: 6.2208 × 10⁷; Number name: 62 million 208 thousand; Number line: http://is.gd/ybCmtC; Number length: 8 decimal digits 17:02 < kanzure> is 30 bp enough to do correct assembly of 2 million strands? 17:05 < kanzure> needs 7 bp on either end, right? 17:05 < kanzure> *both ends 17:08 < jrayhawk_> speaking of which, the huell howser volcano house apparently went off the market in 2012 17:09 < jrayhawk_> a bummer for all aspiring supervillains 17:09 < kanzure> google has it all wrong, people don't want to be in san francisco 17:10 < kanzure> they want to be living in a volcano 17:12 < nmz787> it seems like valve muxing would save significant reagent waste over a constant flow system 17:14 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:15 -!- catern [~catern@catern.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:18 < kanzure> or you could just use less flow in the first place 17:18 < kanzure> instead of using valves 17:19 -!- catern [~catern@catern.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:36 < ParahSailin> ligating 30bp is just gonna make smear 17:37 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@8.36.227.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:37 < kanzure> how long 17:38 < kanzure> gibson assembly requires 20-40 bp overlaps, hm 17:38 < kanzure> seems a little high 18:19 < dingo> is there a method i can use in setup.py to test whether or not the environment is capable of building C extensions to python? so that I could provide optional install_requires packages only if it passes such tests? 18:20 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-67-176-51-230.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:20 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Quit: ...unyaaa ~~~] 18:21 < kanzure> dingo: you can extend some of the commands (like install) to do things 18:21 < kanzure> dingo: here's a messy example, http://github.com/kanzure/python-brlcad/tree/master/setup.py 18:21 < kanzure> in particular, command_subclass.run = modified_run 18:22 < dingo> sure, sure, i know that one 18:22 < kanzure> and CustomInstallCommand 18:22 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-178-117.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:22 < dingo> but is there some way to ask, "Can I build a C extension for python?" -- other than, I suppose, like a ./configure script -- actually trying it 18:22 < kanzure> well, i would test in a before hook step, and then filter the list of requirements to exclude things that are c extensions 18:23 < kanzure> so, the actual dependencies for c extensions are often not formally specified 18:23 < kanzure> i believe the only requirement is $cc or something like that (for which compiler to use), and then whatever header flies that code might demand 18:23 < kanzure> dunno if it's literally $cc or $CXXCOMPILERFLAG or w/e 18:23 < dingo> well some users will tell me, they have cc -- but they didn't have "python-dev" package on debian or some such, missing Python.h, etc. 18:24 < dingo> so testing for `which cc` isn't sufficient alone 18:24 < kanzure> pkg-config? heh 18:25 < dingo> yeah, i think it will be necessary to actually compile a mini test extension -- and only if it succeeds, then add 'paramiko' and 'bcrypt' to install_requires 18:25 < dingo> my epic telnet bbs project now has ssh support, and has always had optional blowfish encryption of passwords supported 18:25 < kanzure> paramiko has c extension requirements? 18:26 < dingo> yeah, it depends on PyCrypto, which does 18:26 < kanzure> aha 18:26 < kanzure> python packaging su 18:26 < kanzure> *sux 18:26 < dingo> i know... you're telling me 18:26 < kanzure> if you can manage it, you should campaign to replace everything with debian packaging 18:26 < dingo> i'm the defacto PyInstaller for windows expert at work now 18:26 < kanzure> pyinstaller still hehe 18:27 < gradstudentbot> She keeps talking about her Nature paper, but she was only third author. 18:27 < dingo> I think my project may have made it to ArchLinux 18:27 < dingo> but thats any earlier pure python version anyway 18:27 < kanzure> why did we use python packages anyway? 18:27 < kanzure> we really should have just used .deb's or .rpm's 18:28 < dingo> you talking about at my job? 18:28 < kanzure> oh right, osx development.. 18:28 < kanzure> yes 18:28 < dingo> well we do use both .deb and .rpm for the final mega-project 18:28 < kanzure> i keep forgetting about the osx developers. that makes things problematic. 18:28 < kanzure> sure 18:28 < kanzure> but for the python portions too 18:28 < dingo> well theres a windows portion now too, you know 18:28 < kanzure> la la la la not listening 18:28 < dingo> i just helped finish windows secure direct migration this week 18:29 < dingo> windows pe boots up, does the migraiton 18:29 < kanzure> glad to hear there's progress 18:29 < dingo> hence the need for the PyInstaller, we have a cli.exe 18:30 < gradstudentbot> Wow, that would be a great sample to add to my collection. 18:30 < dingo> management is talking about "cli.exe" like its some fucking magical thing, they don't even know what it is or what it stands for, or that its just 2 logical lines of python code 18:30 < kanzure> haha 18:30 < kanzure> don't tell them it's 2 lines, they won't understand that there was other work 18:31 < dingo> i just regret not duplicating it to 'collector.exe' and 'target_worker.exe', they're all mega-confused about how cli.exe works in both sides of the equation 18:31 < dingo> its an 11mb exe :) 18:32 < dingo> i'm really trying to polish this turd up before i leave em 18:33 < kanzure> i can see why they're confused, since they are probalby thinking of web applications 18:33 < kanzure> and not desktop/server applications 18:34 < kanzure> or applications that have network communication aspects beyond what it used to be 18:34 < dingo> i got a new boss between our former one and myself ... he's a scientologist... nuff said ... 18:35 < kanzure> that's hilarious that they reward you by pushing you further down the ladder 18:35 < kanzure> when you leave, you should try the "do as little as humanly possible" philosophy 18:35 < kanzure> and the "give wrong answers" "follow up at the wrong hours" etc 18:35 < dingo> yeah im going to go like lin 18:35 < kanzure> think of it as an experiment 18:36 < kanzure> start sending thoughtful emails up the chain (bypass at least 2-3 bosses) 18:36 < dingo> oh there's that game where you reply to every e-mail by including one more person 18:37 < kanzure> oh yeah, and you win when the ceo gets included or something? 18:37 < dingo> yup 18:38 < kanzure> just curious.. how long does the unit test suite take these days? and how many tests 18:38 < dingo> we've done pretty good.. let me see 18:40 < dingo> 392 tests in 9 seconds -- for engine, 273 in 4 seconds in phore 18:40 < kanzure> not bad at all 18:40 < dingo> and theres a windows project with hundreds of tests i'm not really in the mood to boot up 18:40 < kanzure> could be way worse 18:41 < dingo> every bug or feature i author comes with tests -- there are of course those amatures who shit all over the codebase still, can't help them 18:41 < kanzure> i've been having that problem elsewhere 18:41 < kanzure> i can catch most stuff in code review, 18:41 < dingo> the windows project even rejects the build if test coverage goes under 90% 18:41 < kanzure> but it's really hard to convince people to totally redo their work 18:41 < kanzure> without rewriting it for them 18:41 < dingo> it also rejects build for any pyflakes and pylint issues 18:41 < dingo> so its very pure and clean 18:42 < dingo> it also means you can't throw 100 TODO items 18:42 < dingo> i swear.. some of these kids.. can't write 5 lines of code without saying "TODO: I should have done this better, but i don't know how" 18:42 < kanzure> # TODO: correct for gravitational constant once humanity figures out the value 18:44 < dingo> if it weren't for these two other people, i would have already left -- i don't feel so much like its a losing battle 18:44 < dingo> i like some of the folk -- but i would fire the lot of them, they cost more than they help when they write difficult to maintain code 18:44 -!- liscur [~liscur@static-72-95-106-120.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:45 < kanzure> can't fire me if i'm already gone :) 18:45 < kanzure> hehe 18:45 < dingo> i earnestly beleive just 3 or 4 great developers can do a colossal amount of work -- history shows C compilers, unix, all kinds of mega projects that were completed with just a handful of people 18:45 < kanzure> yup, absolutely 18:46 < kanzure> for every additional programmer added to a project, at least one year of your life expectancy is removed 18:46 < dingo> i told the new scientologist manager this idea, and he replied, "Thats only true if your company is started out of a garage -- thats not true in the *real world*" 18:47 < kanzure> good thing my garage isn't part of reality 18:47 < dingo> i just dropped the subject, he's a former java developer, he probobly only knows mega-corperation software houses 18:48 < catern> lol, "the real world" 18:48 < dingo> that VV who sits by me has gone an entire 2 weeks without submitting a single thing to review, not a single thing, yet his editor is open all day 18:48 < dingo> i submit on average 1 thing a day to review. some days my diffs are over 1,500 lines 18:48 < catern> "that's only true if you're not employed by a company that pays people to interfere with you" 18:49 < dingo> i bought a chess clock, a right and left side-mechanical timer, you know? 18:49 < dingo> and i timed actual programming vs. bullshit distractions 18:49 < dingo> average actual programming time between 9 and 5? about 30 minutes to 1 hour 18:49 < kanzure> for yourself? 18:49 < kanzure> i wouldn't be surprised 18:49 < dingo> so now i just work in the evenings when everybody's gone, i can get in at least 4 hours of programming that way, sometimes the full 6 i feel i'm entitled to have 18:50 < kanzure> would you believe me if i told you i was watching movies the whole time i was coding 18:50 < dingo> i come in just before lunch, hehe 18:50 < dingo> you got a warped attention span, don't tell me your process 18:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-178-117.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:50 < dingo> its inhuman 18:51 < gradstudentbot> You know, I'd like to biopsy that butt. 18:52 < kanzure> office life is weird anyway 18:53 -!- catern [~catern@catern.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:56 -!- catern [~catern@catern.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:02 -!- liscur [~liscur@static-72-95-106-120.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 19:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-178-117.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:27 -!- abetusk is now known as Guest52195 19:27 -!- Guest52195 [~abe@208.184.72.78] has quit [Killed (hobana.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 19:28 -!- Guest52195 [~abe@208.184.72.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:30 -!- abetusk [~abe@c-71-192-163-80.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:37 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by bear] 19:57 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:02 -!- catern [~catern@catern.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:03 -!- night [Adifex@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe6e:f4e8] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:03 -!- paperbot [~paperbot@131.252.130.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:04 -!- heath [~ybit@131.252.130.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:04 -!- gradstudentbot [~gradstude@131.252.130.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:05 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@131.252.130.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:07 -!- catern [~catern@catern.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:09 -!- Adifex [Adifex@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe6e:f4e8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:12 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@131.252.130.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:14 -!- AshleyWaffle [~waffle@gateway/tor-sasl/anastasiawyatt] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20:15 -!- AshleyWaffle [~waffle@gateway/tor-sasl/anastasiawyatt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:19 -!- heath [~ybit@131.252.130.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-178-117.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:38 < kanzure> ooh, how about we paint this on the side of the synthesizer: 20:38 < kanzure> http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/Rcd/K4A/RcdK4Akgi.jpeg 20:39 < kanzure> or if we want something more involved, http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.15027782.1633/fc,550x550,asphalt.u1.jpg 20:42 < kanzure> safe enough yet? http://rmc205a.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/biohazard-suits.jpg 20:43 < kanzure> damn how about this one http://thumb9.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/1059320/138565472/stock-vector-gas-mask-stencil-isolated-over-tatto-element-138565472.jpg 20:49 < nmz787> heh 20:49 < nmz787> more work??? 20:49 < nmz787> paint could foul the optics 20:49 < nmz787> ;) 20:52 < kanzure> well, we could have someone else do it, dunno if it matters 20:52 < kanzure> i think most of the panels are not functionally relevant 20:52 < kanzure> so we could just ship one to some art dude 20:53 < kanzure> doesn't have to be *paint* either 21:00 < kanzure> jrayhawk_: maybe mike would be up to do a thing? 21:03 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-178-117.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:44 -!- petraya [~asakharov@24.60.79.55] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:48 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:48 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 259 seconds] 22:03 -!- joepie91_ [5064fe45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.100.254.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:33 -!- joepie91_ [5064fe45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.100.254.69] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:33 < joepie91_> kanzure: yes, working on PDF stuffs :P 22:33 < kanzure> coolio 22:34 < joepie91_> reading pdf.js codebase to understand exactly where to hook stuff in 22:35 < joepie91_> seems well-engineered, though I encountered some major WTFs in the colorspace department, but that's probably just not code used in production yet 22:35 < joepie91_> (stuff like a function that supposedly returns a boolean based on input data, but is hardcoded to return false, etc.) 22:36 < kanzure> lolz "Oligos produced from microarrays are 2-4 orders of magnitude cheaper than column-based oligos, with costs ranging from $0.00001 - 0.001 per nucleotide." 22:38 < kanzure> oh gen9bio.com is doing inkjet printing of phosphoramidite reagents 22:39 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-178-117.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:39 < kanzure> they are doing ~10,000 oligos per pool 22:44 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-76-167-105-53.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:45 -!- sapiosexual [~sapiosexu@d205-250-248-58.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:05 -!- ielo [~ielo@host-92-24-37-9.ppp.as43234.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:07 -!- Jaakko910 [~Jaakko@cpc13-newc15-2-0-cust64.16-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:10 -!- sapiosexual_ [~sapiosexu@d205-250-248-58.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:10 -!- Burnin8 [~Burn@pool-173-66-15-196.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:11 -!- cpopell2 [~cpopell@pool-71-255-241-91.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:12 -!- cpopell [~cpopell@pool-71-255-241-91.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:13 -!- sapiosexual [~sapiosexu@d205-250-248-58.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:13 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-173-66-15-196.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:30 -!- joepie91_ [5064fe45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.100.254.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:37 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:44 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@72.12.216.49] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:50 -!- justanot1eruser [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:51 -!- justanot1eruser [~andrew@c-50-129-87-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 23:51 -!- justanot1eruser [~andrew@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:51 -!- justanotheruser [~andrew@72.12.216.49] has quit [Disconnected by services] 23:51 -!- justanot1eruser is now known as justanotheruser --- Log closed Sun Jun 22 00:00:42 2014