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http://www.sussex.ac.uk/Users/anils/php/processPdf.php?item=82 02:44 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/438f8424d312b074a5adc845f16c538a.pdf 02:44 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: ebowden, Viper168, strangewarp 02:44 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://www.architalbiol.org/aib/article/download/15056/23165867 02:44 < paperbot> XMLSyntaxError: None (file "/home/bryan/code/paperbot/phenny/modules/scihub.py", line 70, in _go) 02:57 -!- joepie91_ [5064fe45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.100.254.69] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:04 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pcbi.1000091 03:05 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Integrated%20Information%20in%20Discrete%20Dynamical%20Systems%3A%20Motivation%20and%20Theoretical%20Framework.pdf 03:08 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: strages 03:11 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:13 -!- strages 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http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Qualia%3A%20The%20Geometry%20of%20Integrated%20Information.pdf 03:39 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/sci;282/5395/1846 03:39 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscience.282.5395.1846 03:39 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2202/5/42 03:39 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1186%2F1471-2202-5-42 03:40 < poppingtonic> paperbot: http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscience.282.5395.1846 03:41 < poppingtonic> hey gradstudentbot 03:41 < gradstudentbot> Still haven't cured cancer. 03:42 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f19c1764d90d9b32a26da24e69a5561.txt 03:56 -!- TeMPOraL [~user@89-68-70-120.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:05 -!- nshsome [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:50 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:09 -!- nshsome [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has 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merchandise--t-shirts and other apparel, coffee mugs and travelers, keychains, bumper stickers and more." 07:03 < kanzure> these assholes. why don't they focus on, i dunno, seasteading. 07:03 < kanzure> instead of coffee mugs. 07:08 < ParahSailin> thiel loot ran out 07:10 < kanzure> probably happened a while ago 07:10 < kanzure> since that was 2001 or 2002 07:10 < kanzure> and only $500k 07:11 < kanzure> a long time ago they had an okay seasteading engineering book thing 07:11 < kanzure> but then they shat all over it and fucked everything up 07:14 < poppingtonic> I wonder if anyone would be interested in seasteading a country, with a government based on futarchy... 07:14 < kanzure> if i told you 10,000 people were, what then 07:15 < poppingtonic> why haven't they actually gone through with it? 07:16 < kanzure> because they are busy wasting money on coffee mugs 07:16 < kanzure> please pay attention 07:18 < poppingtonic> if what they need is the money to start a seastead, what's wrong with fundraising? 07:18 < kanzure> they have money 07:18 < kanzure> and they have had money in the past, and didn't do seasteading 07:19 -!- AshleyWaffle_ [~waffle@gateway/tor-sasl/anastasiawyatt] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:21 < kanzure> it's amazing how much money people fundraise to do absolutely nothing 07:22 < ParahSailin> 2011 07:23 < kanzure> no way 07:23 < chris_99> instead of spending it on coffee mugs, they could have bought a few old plastic barrels, some rope, and an unwanted shed 07:23 < kanzure> chris_99: :) 07:23 < kanzure> "The Seasteading Institute (TSI), founded by Wayne Gramlich and Patri Friedman on April 15, 2008" 07:23 < kanzure> that doesn't sound right either. 2008? 07:24 < kanzure> "The project picked up mainstream exposure in 2008 after having been brought to the attention of PayPal cofounder Peter Thiel, who contributed $500,000 to fund the creation of The Seasteading Institute" 07:24 < kanzure> ah i see: "Gramlich’s 1998 article "SeaSteading – Homesteading on the High Seas" outlined the notion of affordable steading, and attracted the attention of Friedman with his proposal for a small-scale project.[8] The two began working together and posted their first collaborative book online in 2001, which explored aspects of seasteading from waste disposal to flags of convenience." 07:24 < kanzure> so near as i can tell, the biggest mistake here was gramlich not actually continuing his small-scale project 07:25 < poppingtonic> It seems more like a support system than an actual seastead. maybe the problem is with people not actually starting them. 07:25 < kanzure> architectural supports? 07:25 < poppingtonic> no, funding... 07:25 < kanzure> what? 07:25 < poppingtonic> they can fund people who want to do seasteading... 07:27 -!- TeMPOraL [~user@89-68-70-120.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:29 < poppingtonic> however, there's another problem. 07:34 < poppingtonic> "the original goal to give out the Poseidon Award - our prize for the establishment of the first independent seasteading community, the seed for the world’s first ocean city-state - by 2015" 07:51 -!- nshsome [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:52 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8fb265c5056.gv.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:01 -!- nshsome [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:01 -!- nshsome is now known as [nsh] 08:16 -!- [nsh] [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:17 -!- [nsh] [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:18 -!- [nsh] [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 08:23 < kanzure> "Baidu offers 2 TB of free cloud storage. However that’s dwarfed by QQ, which offers 10 TB." 08:29 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-182-1.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:29 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-182-1.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:32 -!- [nsh] [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:35 < kanzure> ehsm photos https://www.flickr.com/photos/99725460@N00/sets/72157645418131912/ 08:37 -!- poppingtonic [~poppingto@154.122.93.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:40 -!- [nsh] [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:53 -!- petraya [~asakharov@24.60.79.55] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:54 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@cpe-76-167-105-53.san.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:58 -!- [nsh] [~unf@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:59 -!- TeMPOraL [~user@89-68-70-120.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:27 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@195.159.71.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:14 < kanzure> this still amuses me: "In March 2000, President Clinton announced that the genome sequence could not be patented, and should be made freely available to all researchers. The statement sent Celera's stock plummeting and dragged down the biotechnology-heavy Nasdaq. The biotechnology sector lost about $50 billion in market capitalization in two days." 10:19 < kanzure> "The White House released a detailed question-and-answer document that set the facts straight, but the announcement was widely misrepresented by the media based on Lockhart’s statement." 10:19 < kanzure> see http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/92/8/594.full 10:20 < kanzure> heh "Celera’s stock plummeted 21% after the announcement, while Incyte Pharmaceuticals’ value fell 27% and Human Genome Sciences’ 19%" 10:24 < kanzure> "By shortly after 14:30 GMT on the LSE, shares in Cambridge Antibody Technology (CAT) had fallen 16.4% to £27.87, Cantab Pharmaceuticals was down 15.% to £4.22, Celltech had slumped 13.5% to £12.87, Oxford GlycoSciences was down 17.7% to £22.25 and Shire Pharmaceuticals had dropped 11.8% to £12.20." 10:25 < kanzure> "Even PPL Therapeutics - which had just unveiled the first cloned pigs on the path to genetically engineered organs for transplant - saw its stock dive 21.7% to £1.97. 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