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01:54 < nmz787> what does aliexpress et al. call 80/20 t-slot stuff?
01:57 < nmz787> hmm, $4/ft... doesn't seem too bad http://www.ebay.com/itm/80-20-80-20-80-20-PARCO-T-SLOT-ALUMINUM-EXTRUSION-1-5-X-1-5-/370586698745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5648b043f9
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05:58 < ebowden> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.201404871/pdf
05:58 < paperbot> XMLSyntaxError: None (file "/home/bryan/code/paperbot/phenny/modules/scihub.py", line 70, in _go)
06:00 < ebowden> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.201404871/full
06:00 < paperbot> XMLSyntaxError: None (file "/home/bryan/code/paperbot/phenny/modules/scihub.py", line 70, in _go)
06:00 < ebowden> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.201404871/abstract
06:00 < paperbot> XMLSyntaxError: None (file "/home/bryan/code/paperbot/phenny/modules/scihub.py", line 70, in _go)
06:00 < ebowden> Dang. :(
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06:04 < ebowden> paperbot: http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/pdf/10.1146/annurev.cellbio.042308.113256
06:04 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1146%2Fannurev.cellbio.042308.113256
06:04 < ebowden> \:D/
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06:19 < kanzure> nmz787: or get makerslide
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06:34 < ebowden> paperbot: http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/scd.2006.15.165
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07:09 < paperbot> RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/_weakrefset.py", line 72, in __contains__)
07:33 < ebowden> Damn.
07:33 < kanzure> yup
07:42 < kanzure> nmz787: limiting yourself to micrometers and millimeters in cad is sorta worthless; you can just use normal meters
07:43 < nsh> i get 12 rods to the hogshead and that's the way i like it
07:44 < kanzure> elaborate
07:46 < nsh> simpsons (grampa) quote in reference to metric system
07:47 < nsh> .wa 40 rods per hogshead in miles per gallon
07:47 < yoleaux> convert 40 rd/hhd (rods per US hogshead) to miles per gallon: 0.001984 mpg (miles per gallon); Additional conversion: 0.8435 m/L (meters per liter); Interpretation: fuel economy; Basic unit dimensions: [length]⁽⁻²⁾; Corresponding quantity: Fuel consumption from FC = 1/FE:: 1185 L/km (liters per kilometer): 504 gal/mi (gallons per mile): 118548 L/100 km (liters per hundred kilometers)
07:47 < nsh> http://imgur.com/r/TheSimpsons/Gemj5
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07:51 < chapta> Hello guys are there are any important newsletter, news groups ...? I am reading on ieet.org a lot , but i want more input, from other chanels, having different views and using different arguments... Not only for transhumism, but also for biohack DIY bio
07:56 < kanzure> ieet.org is crap
07:56 < kanzure> for diybio stuff you can abuse https://groups.google.com/group/diybio
08:00 < chapta> ok, thanks kanzure , are there newsletters, news groups or something?
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08:02 < kanzure> chapta: diybio is a mailing list
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08:12 < chapta> ok, kanzure i specify my question: Are there other(not the DIYBio google group) interesting and knowledgable communication channels about transhumanism, biohack or DIYbio?
08:15 < kanzure> well, there's this channel
08:18 < chapta> ok, i take a look at the irc logs , but something else ?
08:20 < chapta> Wow i am quiet impressed, you are even in the first logs from 2008
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08:21 < cluckj> really the only stuff on the internet are the mailing lists and some blogs associated with groups, and this channel
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08:22 < chapta> The logs get bigger, how older they are, that is sad, is this movement dieing?
08:22 < cluckj> no
08:23 < chapta> can you give me links to a few blogs? cluckj
08:23 < cluckj> people started making groups in meatspace and stopped needing to communicate online
08:23 < cluckj> http://diybio.org/local/
08:24 < cluckj> that's a list of almost every diy bio group
08:24 < chapta> thanks, is there a cooperation with fablabs or do they totaly ignore diybio?
08:25 < chapta> sadly there is nothing in my reach
08:25 < kanzure> my list is more thorough than diybio.org/local over here http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/groups/
08:25 < kanzure> fablabs in general are not interested in diybio
08:25 < cluckj> in some places, yes
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08:26 < kanzure> a lot of biologists hate computers; that's why genspace doesn't make friends with people over the internet
08:26 < kanzure> they are isolationists
08:26 < cluckj> dang that is a big stalker list
08:26 < nsh> stalk hard or stalk home
08:26 < cluckj> lol
08:26 < chapta> why? the goal seems similiar? improving the world, educating the poeple
08:26 < cluckj> kanzure, they don't have time for the internet
08:27 < kanzure> that's not even my real stalker list
08:27 < chapta> om still nothing with in 300 km
08:28 < kanzure> well where the fuck are you
08:28 < cluckj> chapta where are you located?
08:28 < chapta> near Dresden, Gemany
08:28 < cluckj> o_O
08:28 < chapta> only berlin and bavaria :-(
08:29 < kanzure> there's tons of groups in berlin
08:29 < kanzure> that's way less than 300 km
08:29 < kanzure> argh
08:29 < kanzure> learn geography
08:30 < chapta> there is a headquarter ccc , a fablab , but nothing like diybio
08:30 < kanzure> wrong
08:30 < cluckj> there's also some stuff in prague?
08:30 < kanzure> besides the biohacking groups, there's also eleitl's crazyfun bodyfreezing lab
08:31 < cluckj> is that the name, or is it crazy fun?
08:31 < kanzure> oh wait, no, he's munich. which is out of range.
08:31 < kanzure> it is frazy fun
08:31 < kanzure> s/frazy/crazy
08:31 < kanzure> i'm not sure if his operations have a name at the moment
08:32 < kanzure> the berlin biohacking people are a little hard to remember
08:32 < cluckj> the thing about diy bio is that if you can't find a space near you.......make one
08:32 < kanzure> one of them was a journalist
08:33 < chapta> yes you are right around 200 km s to berlin and 175 km to Prag, but i do not have car so it is far away for me .
08:34 < cluckj> chapta, there are probably people interested in doing diy bio things in your area; send an email to the global list or start a group
08:34 < kanzure> why do you want to go?
08:34 < cluckj> some folks use meetup in the US, I don't know if there's a german equivalent
08:34 < kanzure> groups are dumb anyway; "let's start my non-institutional hobby by starting an institution"
08:34 < cluckj> lol
08:34 < cluckj> I'd hesitate to call some diy bio groups institutions :P
08:35 < kanzure> well they are certainly claiming they are
08:35 < kanzure> "hurf durf, we have a code of ethics, and we're an organization, proving that diybio can organize itself in the US" go fuck yourself
08:35 < kanzure> so disappointing
08:36 < chapta> i am student, so its hard to found something :-(
08:36 < kanzure> you don't need to "found" anything
08:36 < cluckj> o_O
08:36 < cluckj> you can make it if you can't find it
08:36 < chapta> Where do i can send the mail if i want to support the founding of a group in my near?
08:36 < kanzure> diybio@groups.google.com
08:37 < cluckj> the biology student association at a university
08:38 < chapta> not a student in university but in a borderschool , do you think it is possible to make some thing like a DIYbio club in school?
08:39 < cluckj> yes
08:39 < cluckj> talk to science teachers
08:39 < kanzure> you can also do it yourself (DIY)
08:39 < kanzure> cluckj, it's amazing how stupid i feel having to say that
08:40 < cluckj> I feel your pain
08:41 < kanzure> https://github.com/CrossRef/pdfextract
08:41 < kanzure> "A tool and library that can extract various areas of text from a PDF, especially a scholarly article PDF."
08:41  * nsh is about to test
08:41 < nsh> wow, that is a big repo
08:42 < kanzure> prolly this crap https://github.com/CrossRef/pdfextract/tree/master/data
08:42 < nsh> wtf is a Rakefile
08:42 < nsh> i need an adult
08:42 < kanzure> rake is a make system
08:42 < nsh> oh, ruby
08:42 < kanzure> welcome to rubyland, don't forget to get out
08:43  * nsh smiles
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08:48 < nsh> 	ttfunk requires Ruby version >= 1.9.3.
08:48 < nsh> is this going to end in annoyance at ubuntu...
08:48 < kanzure> i suggest rvm or rbenv
08:48 < kanzure> by suggest i mean i'm laughing at you
08:49 < nsh> as well you should
08:49 < nsh> not even sure with rbenv i'll be able to install ruby1.9.3 except by source
08:49 < nsh> which sounds like a headache
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08:50 < kanzure> if you feel like using virtualbox, you could find a vagrant box with ruby 1.9.3 already installed
08:51 < nsh> i've already lost interest. i could just do pdf2text (or whatever) and write some simple heuristics
08:51 < nsh> there is probably no reasonable reason you need 70Mb of ruby code to do what i want
08:51 < kanzure> "i could just use osme simple heuristics" famous last words
08:51 < kanzure> that's probably just their giant .db file
08:51 < kanzure> because they suck at git
08:51 < nsh> mm
08:51 < kanzure> *some
08:52 < nsh> wait, i'm not even under bail conditions any more. i can use whatever linux i want
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08:52 < nsh> migrating also seems like a chore, however
08:52 < kanzure> bail conditions were no linux?
08:53 < nsh> no "using the internet via a third-party or in a manner that masks your identity"
08:53 < kanzure> "also no lol"
08:53 < chapta> srry interupting, I need to win at least one chemistry and one Biology teacher, can you give me a hint for agruments, i have no idea where to start ... I want to craft my own arguments, but can you tell me what possibilities DIYBio offers to schools?
08:54 < nsh> (i tried to explain that you can't use the internet except via third parties so they said it meant basically no tor)
08:54 < kanzure> you can do diybio at home without a school
08:55 < chapta> i a living in a borderschool again .
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08:58 < chapta> so i need to talk with bio and chem teachers, that they can tell my mentor that i do not do things that can kill me roomate or other in my house
08:59 < chapta> so it is smater to do it when there is a teacher next by ... at least in my age
08:59 < kanzure> what do you need from them? permission? money?
09:02 < chapta> i need some thing like permissions from my Mentor, which looks after my in the house. Ans to win hom for bio experiments in "his" house, when equiped chemisty rooms are 2 walking minutes away is quiete hard ->
09:03 < chapta> that leads the conclusion it is better to do it in school"s chemestry romms.
09:03 < kanzure> sprechen um die menschen berlin hacking;; sie starke argument kennin
09:05 < chapta> There i need equipment, permission to use the rooms and getsome backing and tipps. And to get that i need to win them for the Idea. CAn you give me email of the people from berlin you talk about?
09:06 < kanzure> Matthias Bock <mail@matthiasbock.net>
09:06 < kanzure> Philippe S. <gonzoinadaze@googlemail.com>
09:06 < kanzure> Andreas <masterstorm123@gmail.com>
09:09 < chapta> Thanks, kanzure you are something lke the core of the scene ? And quiet friendly for newcomers, thanks a lot.
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09:10 < cluckj> heh
09:10 < cluckj> there's no core
09:10 < chapta> WHat do you guys think about bullet proof diet and this stuff?
09:11 < cluckj> "scene" is a weird way to describe it, too :\
09:12 < chapta> ok, enlight me pls, how do you call it then?
09:13 < cluckj> short answer, or long answer?
09:14 < chapta> both :-)
09:14 < chapta> Long answer
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09:15 < cluckj> short answer: small groups of people doing 'amateur' science, loosely affiliated enough to be called a movement sometimes
09:15 < kanzure> misconstrued as a movement to boost their own reputation among non-hackers
09:15 < chapta> long?
09:16 < cluckj> kanzure, I'm not sure if it's the media or individuals/groups themselves doing it
09:16 < kanzure> it's the individuals
09:17 < cluckj> the long answer is pretty long
09:17 < nsh> --
09:17 < nsh> nsh@digriz:~/Downloads$ ls *.pdf | while read F; do python -c 'from pyPdf import PdfFileWriter as w, PdfFileReader as r; import os; print "'"$F"': " + str(r(file("'"$F"'","rb")).getDocumentInfo().title)' 2>/dev/null; done | egrep -v 'None$|: $' | tee pdftitles.txt | wc -l
09:17 < nsh> 127
09:17 < nsh> nsh@digriz:~/Downloads$ ls *.pdf | wc -l
09:17 < nsh> 383
09:17 < nsh> --
09:17 < cuba> are the berlin guys still active?
09:18 < nsh> (127/383 pdfs have title metadata that pyPdf could read)
09:18 < kanzure> "teehee, looks like i accidentally got grant money from some stupid grant org to fund my diybio-as-an-institution shit, whoops" - jason bobe
09:18 < cuba> i read something about a biohacker space but i did not find any recent infos about it kanzure
09:18 < kanzure> they don't communicate very well, so i'm not sure
09:18 < kanzure> i only know what my spy network tells me
09:19 < cluckj> non-professional scientists have been doing science outside of institutions since forever, diy bio is what it's being called right now
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09:20 < cluckj> damn I wasn't even close to being done with my long explanation :(
09:20 < kanzure> what the fuck type of boarding school has such shitty internets?
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09:21 < GarethRigby> hogwarts
09:21 < cluckj> lol
09:21 < cuba> chepta: wenn du was findest lass es mich wissen :)
09:23 < chepta> cuba : there is the raumfahrtagentur , but it is something like closed community
09:23 < kanzure> diese zunge sprechen ist wie verschwitzt esel hoden
09:24 < kanzure> the grammar makes me laugh
09:24 < cuba> the laws here are very tight also
09:24 < chepta> This is weird an full fo mistakes :-)
09:24 < cuba> i think its better to stay low profile here
09:24 < cluckj> the grammar is worse in english
09:25 < chepta> cluckj do do you post the long answer
09:25 < kanzure> you guys are pretty lucky, you have helloween
09:25 < cluckj> I put part of it but you left
09:26 < cluckj> non-professional scientists have been doing science outside of institutions since forever, diy bio is what it's being called right now
09:26 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P2xx5cs7o8
09:26 < yoleaux> Helloween - Live in Tuttlingen, Germany 1987 (Full Concert)
09:26 < chepta> i read on the logs , but does not found anything
09:28 < chepta> was it at :19 ?
09:28 < cluckj> there's a confluence of different things that make it possible and make it seem like a movement, like access to scientific ways of thinking, used instrumentation, the Internet, law enforcement oversight, relative openness of scientific information, a cultural imperative towards control over the biological
09:29 < cuba> i've the feeling that bio amateur scientists are lacking forums like the chemists have
09:30 < cuba> there is no equivalent to sciencemadness for example
09:30 < kanzure> diybio is the equivalent
09:30 < cluckj> ^
09:30 < cuba> the ml?
09:30 < cluckj> yes
09:30 < kanzure> "forums" are just mailing lists with a different interface and no good email support
09:31 < kanzure> people fucking love their forums though; anything different is "wrong"
09:31 < chepta> kanzure @internet : one with >300 people and 16.000 connection and a proxy server between it that blocks every irc client  :-)
09:31 < cluckj> there's also a lot of stuff happening not on the internet
09:31 < kanzure> learn to use vpns
09:31 < chepta> cuba i agree
09:31 < kanzure> oh please. email works perfectly fine.
09:31 < kanzure> i still can't believe how pervasive the "if it doesn't have a layout like a forum, it's not valid" opinion is
09:31 < kanzure> look, they made a forum-email gateway for the diybio mailing list, and *none* of the forum people fucking used it
09:32 < kanzure> so the ball's in your court, jerkwads
09:33 < cluckj> you are pretty cranky today
09:33 < cuba> kanzure: just hates forums
09:33 < kanzure> i probably use way more forums than you ever have
09:33 < kanzure> old list http://heybryan.org/forums.html
09:34 < kanzure> i am not cranky, just mad that nobody has any memory of anything ever
09:34 < kanzure> mad and cranky are totes different especially when justified
09:34 < cuba> kanzure: i did not mean to criticize
09:34 < cluckj> I know the difference :P
09:34 < kanzure> i didn't say you were criticizing
09:35 < nsh> my cat's breath smells like cat food
09:35 < cuba> its the taxoplasma gondii
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09:35 < cuba> *toxo
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09:37 < nsh> mmm
09:38 < chapta> kanzure google groups are comparable to forums  but lacking the possibilty of folders(i think), but better mail integration
09:38 < kanzure> go try the diybio forum
09:38 < nmz787> ebowden is not around for these I guess
09:38 < nmz787> http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Imidazole-Based_Small_Molecules_that_Promote_Neurogenesis_in_Pluripotent_Cells.pdf
09:39 < nmz787> *this
09:39 < cluckj> social movements are the latest buzzword for people doing things
09:39 < cluckj> if it's not a movement, there's nothing happening
09:39 < chapta> i think it is quiet fine that different people use / want / hate different types of softwares for different aproaches
09:40 < nmz787> kanzure: if the software works micrometers and nanometers should just be an easy conversion... but if I try exporting it to something for simulations, it needs to be exported in the correct unit
09:40 < catern> as long as that software respects your freedom
09:40 < nmz787> kanzure: it
09:40 < kanzure> nmz787: are you sure?
09:41 < kanzure> like, what sort of simulation software can't set its own units?
09:42 < chapta> sure there is one
09:49 < kanzure> hm?
09:50 < chapta> i think there is bad software
09:50 < chapta> that do not offer this feature
09:51 < nmz787> the only one I've really heard of for microfluidics are fluent and comsol
09:51 < kanzure> comsol has p. good solidworks integration
09:51 < kanzure> torrent it
09:51 < nmz787> kanzure: you're famous just cause you've been in some internet logs for years and years :P
09:51 < kanzure> famous? haha
09:52 < chapta>  i am just impressed by him
09:53 < chapta> , kanzure
09:53 < nmz787> chapta: there's not much to ask your teachers other than... 'you want to learn, and will they support that?'
09:54 < nmz787> chapta: nothing to coach you on, just be honest
09:54 < nmz787> "I wanna make my cat glow 'teach"
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09:54 < chapta> :-)
09:56 < chapta> ok, i try it
09:56 < nmz787> if you want to do something that you don't want to talk to them about, that might mean you shouldn't talk to us about it... unless it really is something that you think is against their ethics, but which you believe is not against morality/ethics in general
09:56 < nmz787> or something like 'i want a magnet in my finger'
09:56 < nmz787> i guess we'll still talk to you about that
09:57 < nmz787> but we try to think at least one layer deeper than stuff like that
09:57 < nmz787> if that makes sense
09:57 < kanzure> so deep
09:58 < chapta> when i am 18 i can think about it
09:58 < chapta> leave human function extension alone i want to learn DIYBio
09:59 < cluckj> lol
10:02 < cluckj> it's not like there's a discipline of "diy bio"
10:02 < cluckj> making saurkraut is diy bio
10:03 < nmz787> picking your nose and eating what ends up on your finger is diybio
10:03 < cluckj> measuring it then eating it is diy bio
10:04 < chapta> a bit grow in to the research i young age that i can push research later when i am adult.
10:05 < cluckj> you should stay in school and do science stuff
10:06 < cluckj> a lot of diy biologists have degrees in science and engineering fields, and it seems to help them do thing
10:06 < cluckj> s
10:06 < nmz787> ttyl
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10:10 < chapte> Ok, you gave me some impressions about arguments, thanks, talking about my inner reasons,, does make me feel uncomfortable
10:10 < kanzure> don't call it diybio, just tell them you want to do a biotech club or w/e
10:11 < kanzure> whatever their normal process is
10:11 < chapte> ok
10:11 < kanzure> don't call it "fuck the institutionalization of science" group
10:11 < chris_99> lol
10:12 < chapte> ok biochemistry
10:12 < cluckj> that would sound badass in german tho
10:18 < cuba> fick die institutionalisierung der wissenschaft gruppe
10:18 < cuba> i would go for that one
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10:20 < kanzure> die offentliche einrichtung der nicht-institutionalisierung
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10:41 < chapta> is hplus road mao a channel from the youtube channel h+
10:42 < kanzure> no
10:42 < kanzure> hplus means "transhumanism"
10:42 < kanzure> an organization called wta hijacked the word and called themselves h+
10:42 < kanzure> so now there's a great deal of confusion about it
10:42 < chapta> ok, did you created it?
10:42 < kanzure> no
10:42 < kanzure> i mean, hplusroadmap yes, but not wta or the organization known as humanityplus
10:43 < chapta> :-) clear,
10:43 < chapta> but actual you do not create an organisation :-)
10:45 < chapta> is h+ the digital series interesting, i can not wathc it in german and we have good admin cut of every vpn
10:45 < kanzure> probably waste of time
10:45 < GarethRigby> i ve seen the first frw
10:45 < GarethRigby> few, not too bad
10:45 < kanzure> a lot of the transhumanism media is just boring and useless
10:45 < GarethRigby> production quality is decent
10:45 < GarethRigby> theyr up to 50 eps or so now iirc
10:46 < GarethRigby> ill prolly catch up on them at somepoint
10:46 < chapta> do you have as file
10:46 < GarethRigby> no youtube in germany?
10:46 < GarethRigby> and i thought they were so progressive
10:47 < GarethRigby> and no id have to dl them all and make a torrent for you which would take some time
10:47 < GarethRigby> more than i have atm
10:47 < GarethRigby> sorry
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10:48 < chapta> the files ae blocked by author
10:48 < kanzure> just use ec2
10:48 < chapta> youtube is accesible
10:48 < kanzure> it's like $1/day or something for a machine capable of youtubing
10:48 < GarethRigby> still 1$ too much
10:49 < GarethRigby> for something otherwise free
10:49 < kanzure> $1 is a very simple solution to his problem
10:49 < kanzure> he can't access it- that's the problem
10:49 < chapta> i am not allowed to make contrac until i am 18
10:49 < GarethRigby> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE6A2F3ACDDA10C28
10:49 < kanzure> .title
10:49 < yoleaux> H+ The Digital Series: Complete First Season
10:49 < kanzure> ugh
10:49 < kanzure> if i watch any of this and it is crap, how will you repay me
10:50 < GarethRigby> lol
10:50 < chapta> kanzure is their media content that is not crap?
10:51 < GarethRigby> augur has hiv
10:51 < kanzure> chapta, not often
10:51 < GarethRigby> theres your payment
10:51 < kanzure> chapta, especially re: transhumanism -- lots of terrible media and poor understanding
10:52 < chapta> i asked for good examples not for trash :-D
10:53 < kanzure> there might be no good content
10:53 < kanzure> orion's arm is okay sometimes, but there are sections that are highly suspicious
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10:54 < chapta> and co
10:54 < chapta> Space traveling?
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10:57 < chapta> Do you think the number of attacks with bioweapon and co will increase with the spreding of knowledge an technology
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11:00 < cluckj> no
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11:48 < archels> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2WUlnprDlE
11:48 < yoleaux> Auto-follow Action Sports Drone - AirDog
11:49 < kanzure> battery life?
11:51 < catern> [Dubstep not included]
12:01 < archels> probably terrible
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12:04 < kanzure> that's unfortunate
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13:35 < streety> there is also https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sqdr/hexo-your-autonomous-aerial-camera
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14:43 < kanzure> i wouldn't mind having one if the battery life was better
14:43 < kanzure> or, i would have to think up some sort of landing platform for automatically switching out batteries
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14:51 < streety> what do you want to film?
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14:54 < kanzure> nah just general quadcopter tomfoolery
14:56 < streety> I guess there are models with longer flight times without all the bells and whistles on those two models
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17:21 < kanzure> hmm
17:21 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1DsEeb2DOY
17:21 < yoleaux> Free Ross - The Impact of the Silk Road Case on 21st Century Law
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18:46 < augur_> aww poor GarethRigby
18:47 < augur_> cant get over the fact that you got banned huh
18:47 < augur_> :( :( :(
18:47 < kanzure> hm?
18:47 < kanzure> did i ban someone
18:48 < augur_> kanzure: no, i did
18:48 < augur_> in another channel
18:48 < augur_> kanzure: also, in a second channel, he got himself banned with racism
18:48 < augur_> (garethrigby, that is)
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