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02:35 < jrayhawk> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ejlt.201400114/pdf
02:35 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/8b8745c4907947ba48dcbb4691a37b32.txt
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07:40 < kanzure> eleitl is a prepper :|
07:40 < eudoxia_> i assumed that from the whole "going rural" thing
07:40 < eudoxia_> also stalking him on reddit
07:44 < archels> going rural? wat
07:46 < archels> collapse? hahah
07:46 < archels> I've never seen cynicism this concentrated before
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08:12 < kanzure> const ON_BrepFace &original_face = i >= face_count1 ? brep2->m_F[i = face_count1] : brep1->m_F[i]
08:12 < kanzure> is this equivalent to:
08:12 < kanzure> const ON_BrepFace &original_face = (i >= (face_count1 ? brep2->m_F[i = face_count1] : brep1->m_F[i]))
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08:12 < kanzure> ?
08:13 < archels> if that's C/C++, then no
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08:15 < eudoxia_> i'm pretty sure it's (i >= face_count1) ? ...
08:15 < archels> yeah, with minor headfuckery due to assignment in the dereference operator
08:16 < eudoxia_> that's so awful
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08:22 < kanzure> shit i didn't even see "(i >= face_count1) ?" as an option there
08:24 < kanzure> oh right, i am also not sure what to do about the assignment
08:25 < archels> are you porting this code or just cleaning it up?
08:25 < kanzure> so: if i >= face_count1: (i = face_count1; original_face = brep2->m_F[i];); else original_face = brep1->m_F[i]
08:25 < kanzure> porting :|
08:26 < archels> hmmm
08:27 < archels> if brep2->m_F is an array of length face_count1, then shouldn't that be i = face_count1 - 1?
08:28 < heath> augur: http://lucacardelli.name/Papers/Strand%20Algebras%20for%20DNA%20Computing%20(Natural%20Computing).pdf
08:28 < kanzure> archels: which one should be face_count1 - 1?
08:28 < kanzure> this is stupid
08:29 < archels> in the original, brep2->m_F[i = face_count1] might be missing a minus one
08:30 < archels> (this is just conjecture based on assumptions about the data structures)
08:32 < kanzure> btw the line is here:
08:32 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/brlcad/blob/master/src/libbrep/boolean.cpp#L2253
08:34 < augur> heath: whats this now
08:35 < archels> oh, that says something different
08:36 < archels> minus instead of equals
08:37 < kanzure> oh hey you're right
08:38 < kanzure> that is much less bad
08:45 < heath> augur: the guy worked on dsd (https://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/dna/), a programming language for dna circuits which is based on toehold-mediated DNA strand displacement (http://www.dna.caltech.edu/Papers/ThreeWayBiophysics2013.pdf)
08:45 < heath> anyway, i just figured it was something you might be interested in
08:45 < augur> heath: ah ok
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09:55 < kanzure> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ploversteno/KJ2OcDqboCc
09:55 < kanzure> "I'm wondering if I should maybe make a more extensive coding video than the 26-second "Coding Python with Plover" video that's up right now. Could someone maybe give me a page-long block of code (with lots of commands, variable names, punctuation, brackets, and symbols, since that seems to be what a lot of people get hung up on; I don't know why they think it's harder to write on a steno machine than regular text is, but it's a very ...
09:56 < kanzure> ... pervasive myth) that I can write on my steno machine?"
09:56 < kanzure> sure! http://www.ioccc.org/2013/birken/birken.c
09:56 < kanzure> this is why i am hated
10:22 < delinquentme> kanzure, what happend with the interchangeable microfluidic parts registry
10:22 < delinquentme> You didn't hit something which made it not worth while right?
10:23 < kanzure> nope, just didn't make it
10:23 < kanzure> or, i did write a little of it, but then stopped because it was premature optimization
10:24 < kanzure> svg + yaml would be fine, or something like cadquery + yaml parameters maybe
10:24 < delinquentme> kanzure, why premature optimization?
10:25 < kanzure> what the hell did i need it for?
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10:47 < delinquentme> liquid handling kanzure
10:59 < kanzure> what about it?
10:59 < kanzure> you can do liquid handling without spending 800 hours writing a microfluidics cad library
11:04 < delinquentme> Was there value in an interchangeable parts library?
11:04 < delinquentme> fucking hell. stupid body wants me to keep eating
11:04 < kanzure> theoretically yes in the sense that an open source ecosystem could eventually be forced into existence where others contribute improvements and development
11:05 < delinquentme> im trying ot find via ble applications for this dude doing simulations and I was pondering about this
11:06 < delinquentme> chips of a given size/complexity will eventually need to be verified as usable
11:06 < delinquentme> FEA/ fluid dynamics could be run on this ... and seems it might have value in the fact that fabbing these molds aren't cheap
11:07 < kanzure> yeah there was someone doing cloud simulation for fea stuff
11:08 < delinquentme> you recall ??
11:09 < kanzure> autodesk probably
11:09 < kanzure> http://rescale.com/
11:09 < kanzure> that's the one
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12:51 < ParahSailin> is empty list truthy in ruby or something?
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13:14 < delinquentme> kanzure, was it someone OTHER than Ubercloud?
13:15 < delinquentme> ( doing cloud FEA )
13:15 < kanzure> i already told you
13:16 < delinquentme> looks like it wasn't recoded in my chat history
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13:18 < kanzure> 11:07 < kanzure> yeah there was someone doing cloud simulation for fea stuff
13:18 < kanzure> 11:08 < delinquentme> you recall ??
13:18 < kanzure> 11:09 < kanzure> autodesk probably
13:18 < kanzure> 11:09 < kanzure> http://rescale.com/
13:18 < kanzure> 11:09 < kanzure> that's the one
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13:23 < nmz787_i1> another OMICS -- Degradomics
13:23 < nmz787_i1> .title http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ac9016049
13:23 < yoleaux> Material Degradomics: On the Smell of Old Books
13:24 < chris_99> heh
13:24 < chris_99> that sounds interesting
13:25 < nmz787_i1> delinquentme: most or at least half of the microfluidics papers i've read have done simulations
13:25 < nmz787_i1> delinquentme: it would be awesome if setting up simulations was easier
13:25 < nmz787_i1> delinquentme: or if there was a nice howto/tutorial
13:25 < delinquentme> nmz787_i1, no shit.  Links to papers?
13:26 < delinquentme> And any ideas on what programs they were running?
13:26 < kanzure> openfoam is what i used for microfluidics simulations
13:26 < kanzure> also comsol/ansys
13:26 < kanzure> so.. the usual suspects. not an interesting question.
13:27 < nmz787_i1> delinquentme: comsol mostly, i think i've seen fluent too
13:27 < delinquentme> yeah comsol pops up alot .  Fluidigm uses it too
13:27 < nmz787_i1> delinquentme: no paper links, just check kanzure's microfluidics dir
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14:16 < ParahSailin> wtf why it breaks 1mb post data
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14:16 < ParahSailin> thanks, readv() failed, very useful log
14:17 < kanzure> :\
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15:18 < kanzure> "They haven't yet proven an effective method for inhibiting myostatin in a human... but they've developed a method for detecting it, to prevent people from doing it. Shows what their priorities are." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23913913
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15:19 < kanzure> nmz787_i: don't reformat. inodes might be in tact.
15:31 < kanzure> there should be a method for remotely determining whether or not some technology exists.
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16:20 < nmz787_i> i was able to recover images and mp3s from the SD card
16:20 < nmz787_i> apparently with the MTP crap though, it's harder to get at the actual partitions
16:21 < nmz787_i> I couldn't figure out how to use drivedroid to display the old-style block device
16:22 < kanzure> why do you need drivedroid?
16:22 < nmz787_i> i read somewhere online you could use it to force the internal SD to show up not-as-MTP
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17:37 < gmaxwell> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-642-02384-2_24
17:38 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/efb9dd5dcf72193643e43fae376aa9f6.txt
17:40 < kanzure> pokeball go
17:43 < kanzure> http://users.ece.cmu.edu/~yoonguk/papers/kim-isca14.pdf
17:43 < kanzure> "By reading from the same address in DRAM, we show that it is possible to corrupt data in nearby addresses. More specifically, activating the same row in DRAM corrupts data in nearby rows. We demonstrate this phenomenon on Intel and AMD systems using a malicious program that generates many DRAM accesses."
17:46 < dingo_> interesting
17:46 < dingo_> something with the dram refresh cycle i presume
17:46 < gmaxwell> dingo_: yes, and they bypass the cache.
17:47 < gmaxwell> As I said when I originally ran across the paper: 14:51 <@gmaxwell> On today's expisode of eveything is broken and we're doomed. http://users.ece.cmu.edu/~yoonguk/papers/kim-isca14.pdf
17:51 < dingo_> the zx spectrum only allows a single color per tile, and using a hack while it is displaying the tile, you can modify the colors as it draws, achieving multiple colors
17:52 < dingo_> i wonder how ECC interacts, if it helps or prevents, even with checksums, its possible to balance wrong
17:53 < dingo_> oh man, yeah, this is nuts. their PARA is even more nuts
17:54 < dingo_> when i first learned of woz's hack to refresh DRAM my first thought was how amazing it is that it actually works, and does not corrupt
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18:05 < dingo_> this would be a *very* interesting bug if it could be refined to specificly corrupt a specific region of memory with a specific payload, it would be very hard to do
18:07 < gmaxwell> dingo_: specific payload is not that exiting since you usually only need a single bit flipped to get a severe security vulnerability.
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18:07 < dingo_> seems only some cells are highly vulnerable to
18:08 < dingo_> too... i hate incorrect use of to
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18:08 < gmaxwell> yes, though on some memory it was basically half of all of them.
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19:18 < nmz787_i> http://www.nanoparticles.org/pdf/Salager-E300A.pdf
19:18 < nmz787_i> good paper on surfactants
19:18 < nmz787_i> like all the types, how they differ
19:18 < nmz787_i> what the pros and cons are
19:19 < nmz787_i> got some spelling errors, but seems nice otherwise
19:23 < nmz787_i> from butter to bubble bath
19:23 < kanzure> 'The BGI Cognitive Genomics Lab has obtained DNA samples from over 2000 intellectually gifted individuals [23]. Whole genome sequences at 4x coverage have been obtained for a subset of these, with the remainder delayed until the new Complete Genomics platform (CG was acquired by BGI in 2013) is operative. Project Einstein Sequencing pioneer Jonathan Rothberg (founder of 454 Life Sciences and Ion Torrent) is funding Project Einstein [24], ...
19:24 < kanzure> ... which seeks to identify the genetic basis for mathematical genius. DNA samples have been obtained from 400 leading mathematicians and theoretical physicists, with whole genome sequences expected to be obtained by end of summer 2014."
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19:39 < kanzure> 19:38 <@gwern> gf being fluid intelligence
19:39 < kanzure> 19:38 < kanzure> oh brother
19:39 < kanzure> i don't know what i was expecting
19:49 < kanzure> he doesn't believe in neuronal gene expression or gene silencing
19:53 < kanzure> an okay page https://www.addgene.org/CRISPR/guide/
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21:51 < ParahSailin> https://github.com/libgit2/libgit2/commit/826bc4a81b9c8ce29ff2f98195fb913bada573ca
21:53 < kanzure> fucking idiots
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22:03 < ParahSailin> well, it looks like i've got the libgit2 bindings up to the current version, now to decide how much to clean up to submit a pull request
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23:02 < kanzure> andytoshi: i found you https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.c/nz-qavKFd_I
23:08 < kanzure> 23:08 < Computer_Barf> if you've never had a round bottom flask explode alcohol all over the room while vac distilling, well you've just not lived.
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23:33 < nmz787> hah, i've done that with octanol
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