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00:39 < ebowden> paperbot: http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1162/jocn_a_00066
00:39 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f08768f0f73ec28187b61f7558aea0f5.txt
00:40 < ebowden> :(
00:40 < ebowden> paperbot: http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/jocn_a_00066?journalCode=jocn#.U_2L5ZEdsXo
00:41 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c538724c152db2f46149dfb0f1b89e3d.txt
00:42 < ebowden> :(
00:44 < ebowden> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21671734
00:44 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1162%2Fjocn_a_00066
00:46 < ebowden> \:D/
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00:50 < ebowden> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0166432886900112
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00:51 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/%0A%20The%20effects%20of%20hippocampal%20lesions%20upon%20spatial%20and%20non-spatial%20tests%20of%20working%20memory%0A%20.pdf
00:52 < ebowden> \:D/
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00:55 < ebowden> :C
00:55 < ebowden> It doesn't work.
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01:01 < ebowden> Does this link work for anyone else? http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/%0A%20The%20effects%20of%20hippocampal%20lesions%20upon%20spatial%20and%20non-spatial%20tests%20of%20working%20memory%0A%20.pdf
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01:27 < nmz787_> ebowden: nope
01:27 < ebowden> Huh.
01:28 < ebowden> Paperbot is putting out crap links...
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01:28 < ebowden> :(
01:39 < dpk> .u 000A
01:39 < yoleaux> U+000A LINE FEED (LF) [Cc] (␊)
01:39 < dpk> probably the issue
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08:08 < kanzure> bugfix it
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08:11 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pgen.0040013
08:12 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/da9c15e3c50a98813bebee8e988ab497.txt
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08:20 < eudoxia_> some guy on HN googled the Connection Machine Lisp paper and found a link to the PDF on diyhpl.us, which I'd downloaded on july 2013
08:20 < eudoxia_> what a small world
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08:25 < kanzure> there are not many pdfkeepers anymore
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09:29 < nmz787_i> ParahSailin_: do I send some shipping goons, or would I be required to come in person?
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09:31 < chris_99> nmz787_i, you seen this new wifi module
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09:37 < nmz787_i> which?
09:37 < chris_99> this https://nurdspace.nl/ESP8266
09:37 < chris_99> theres a site that's selling it for $3.34
10:10 < nmz787_i> any drivers out there for it?
10:14 < chris_99> it just uses at commands by the looks of it, so shouldn't be too hard to code for it.  I'm not sure, seems very new
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11:23 < kanzure> 11:23 < gmaxwell> In any case, I've now resigned my dayjob effective sept 5th and will be able to spend some more time on bitcoin core.
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11:25 < bbrittain> 0_o
11:26 < bbrittain> but daala
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11:29 < bbrittain> kanzure: where/when did he say that?
11:30 < kanzure> #bitcoin-dev
11:31 < bbrittain> ahh
11:32 < bbrittain> he was amazed that the news made it to me that fast
11:32 < kanzure> stalk everything
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11:47 < bbrittain> nmz787_i: you actually respond to every single DIYbio post :P
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12:00 < kanzure> paperbot: http://journal.frontiersin.org/Journal/10.3389/fncom.2014.00086/full
12:00 < kanzure> .title
12:00 < yoleaux> Intracellular calcium dynamics permit a Purkinje neuron model to perform toggle and gain computations upon its inputs
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12:00 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d37f5d6fd1ab5cfe338afba3f41fc413.txt
12:01 < kanzure> "It investigates and demonstrates the computational power of just a single neuron: the cerebellar Purkinje neuron. Furthermore, it suggests that the sodium-potassium pump is not simply a homeostatic, "housekeeping" molecule - but that it can be a computational element, utilised by the brain for information processing. "
12:01 < kanzure> hrm how did paperbot not get that
12:02 < kanzure> "Without synaptic input, Purkinje neurons can spontaneously fire in a repeating trimodal pattern that consists of tonic spiking, bursting and quiescence. Climbing fiber input (CF) switches Purkinje neurons out of the trimodal firing pattern and toggles them between a tonic firing and a quiescent state, while setting the gain of their response to Parallel Fiber (PF) input. The basis to this transition is unclear. We investigate it using a ...
12:02 < kanzure> ... biophysical Purkinje cell model under conditions of CF and PF input. The model can replicate these toggle and gain functions, dependent upon a novel account of intracellular calcium dynamics that we hypothesize to be applicable in real Purkinje cells."
12:03 < kanzure> why did the editor catch "Parallel Fiber (PF) input" but not "Climbing fiber input (CF)"
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12:46 < nmz787_i> paperbot: http://journal.frontiersin.org/Journal/10.3389/fncom.2014.00086/pdf
12:46 < nmz787_i> oh, hmm, it may not have got it because I didn't retrofit all the other if clauses near the sciencedirect section
12:47 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/55473e93ebcac896a836d6dc5fb648f5.txt
12:47 < nmz787_i> but it also doesn't look like it tried asking for the HTML  through the proxy
12:47 < nmz787_i> it could have just not found it, i guess
12:48 < nmz787_i> appears that zotero just hasn't been helpful lately
12:49 < nmz787_i> bbrittain: cool! I wish there was more chatter over there... it got lonely after kanzure and cathal left ;(
12:49 < nmz787_i> it was how he lured me here
12:52 < nmz787_i> is .wik design patterns
12:52 < kanzure> i am still reading all emails, i didn't leave and you have no evidence to the contrary
12:52 < nmz787_i> worth anything?
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12:52 < nmz787_i> you left ME!
12:52 < nmz787_i> cold and alone on the mailing list
12:52 < nmz787_i> never again to linkdump
12:53 < kanzure> i think everyone just filters emails from me
12:53 < nmz787_i> did they rate-limit you?
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12:53 < nmz787_i> hah
12:53 < nmz787_i> not me
12:53 < nmz787_i> .wik design patterns
12:53 < yoleaux> "A design pattern in architecture and computer science is a formal way of documenting a solution to a design problem in a particular field of expertise. The idea was introduced by the architect Christopher Alexander in the field of architecture and has been adapted for various other disciplines, including computer science. An organized  …" — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_patterns
12:54 < nmz787_i> wait, what
12:54 < nmz787_i> huh
12:54 < nmz787_i> .wik Design Patterns
12:54 < yoleaux> "Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software is a software engineering book describing recurring solutions to common problems in software design. The book's authors are Erich Gamma, Richard Helm, Ralph Johnson and John Vlissides with a foreword by Grady Booch." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_Patterns
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12:54 < nmz787_i> there we go, that's what I was asking about
12:54 < kanzure> is this news to you
12:55 < bbrittain> kanzure, nmz787_i: I wish people talked more about projects they were doing. and not biosafety.
12:55 < kanzure> bbrittain: nick bostrom is in the news again complaining about biosafety of virulence research :(
12:55 < nmz787_i> the book kanzure? yes
12:55 < kanzure> design patterns should not be news to you
12:55 < nmz787_i> the concepts don't seem new
12:56 < bbrittain> what a tool
12:56 < kanzure> because they aren't
12:56 < nmz787_i> the existence of the book iteself is
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12:56 < nmz787_i> bbrittain: there's plenty of project talk
12:57 < nmz787_i> bbrittain: i think you were asking about numbers when you first showed up in here... and were surprised at how low they were
12:57 < bbrittain> yea :/
12:57 < nmz787_i> bbrittain: there's also the rest of the world (mainly europe) that apparently despises talking in english
12:58 < nmz787_i> the indians are pretty good with english posting
12:58 < kanzure> i wish people would just post in their native language
12:58 < nmz787_i> there were some malaysians I think too, but they didn't post much... and i don't think we've seen any/much from elsewhere in asia
12:58 < nmz787_i> i don't really understand the swedish/norweigian on the biologigaragen list
12:58 < bbrittain> I doubt there is much diybio stuff going on in china
12:59 < nmz787_i> 'cept organ stealing
12:59 < nmz787_i> i'd read about that
12:59 < bbrittain> I would too
12:59 < bbrittain> maybe some stuff in taiwan
12:59 < nmz787_i> 'show proof of your sterile technique'
12:59 < nmz787_i> 'did he heal and survive'
13:00 < nmz787_i> there was that guy in china that made a dialysis machine
13:00 < bbrittain> that would be taiwain. :P unlike china, most of the reason they wear the masks is for when they are sick.
13:00 < nmz787_i> but i don't think he was an internet generation person
13:00 < bbrittain> and when you go into the country, they scan you for a fever
13:00 < nmz787_i> happened to me in tokyo
13:00 < nmz787_i> during plane connections
13:00 < nmz787_i> that was during bird flu though
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13:00 < bbrittain> nah, taiwan always has it now
13:01 < bbrittain> china? it's cool to piss on the streets
13:01 < nmz787_i> people do that in downtown here
13:01 < bbrittain> (actually, I'm quite fond of that part of chinese culture)
13:01 < bbrittain> nmz787_i: where?
13:01 < nmz787_i> everycity USA
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13:01 < bbrittain> 0_o
13:01 < bbrittain> uhh
13:02 < nmz787_i> not taiwan, china: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9817855/Chinese-man-kept-alive-by-self-built-dialysis-machine.html
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13:02 < bbrittain> huh
13:02 < kanzure> there was a diybio thread about that
13:02 < nmz787_i> oh, 43, not 73, i guess he's part of teh internet generation
13:02 < nmz787_i> ya
13:02 < nmz787_i> i copied the link from that thread
13:03 < bbrittain> damn. he is awesome
13:03 < nmz787_i> i think it's funny when people send messages 'we removed the previous messages as SPAM, sorry' and I'm thinking, well I still have them!
13:03 < kanzure> yes they are morons that don't know how email works
13:03 < nmz787_i> hah
13:04 < nmz787_i> there was that wikipedia editor that was arguing with me
13:04 < nmz787_i> 'OK. Um ... so ... there's this science where they try to understand
13:04 < nmz787_i> how homo sapiens manages resources using this symbolic intermediary
13:04 < nmz787_i> resource that homo sapiens calls "money" (in one of its myriad
13:04 < nmz787_i> auditory signaling systems, at least). The science is called
13:04 < nmz787_i> "economics". There's a subdiscipline of economics called "experimental
13:04 < nmz787_i> economics", where they'll gather members of this species into a room
13:04 < nmz787_i> and put them through various simulation games using this money stuff,
13:04 < nmz787_i> to better understand economic behavior in this biological organism.
13:04 < nmz787_i> If I were to conduct my own economics experiment, would I be doing DIYbio?'
13:04 < nmz787_i> (sorry)
13:05 < nmz787_i> i never responded that yes, I'd think it was diybio if they presented it that way
13:05 < nmz787_i> :)
13:05 < kanzure> why are you bringing this up
13:05 < kanzure> this is a stupid topic
13:07 < nmz787_i> it was the last message in that dialysis thread
13:07 < nmz787_i> i chuckled
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13:22 < nmz787_i> kanzure: was the allegro you were talking a game library?
13:22 < nmz787_i> some game library is obfuscating my PCB related searches
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13:23 < kanzure> yes
13:24 < archels> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nn.3776.html
13:24 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnn.3776
13:24 < archels> nope
13:24 < kanzure> paperbot v2 needs unit tests
13:24 < kanzure> then i'll switch it on
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13:31 < heath> i'm guessing others in here have read that vernor vinge predicted the internet as well?
13:31 < heath> it this a common misconception?
13:31 < heath> i can't find the name of the book he published which is associated with this
13:33 < kanzure> well in 1991 he predicted that entire galaxy-spanning civilizations would devote all of their computational resources to writing angry emails for an intergalactic usenet, does that count?
13:36 < mullein> maybe this? "Vinge began writing sci-fi in the late 60s. In 1981 his novella True Names invented the concept of cyberspace, three years before William Gibson's Neuromancer was credited as doing so. Considered eerily prescient, True Names told of hackers, living for the net (addictively) who don alternate online personae to attempt to battle a worldwide artificial intelligence."
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13:37 < heath> oh, okay, so it was before arpanet
13:37 < kanzure> yeah but damien did "virtual reality" like 10 years earlier etc
13:37 < mullein> apparently mark twain predicted the internet as well
13:37 < heath> oh, 1981, nevermind
13:37 < kanzure> socrates was the first usenet troll
13:38 < mullein> hello btw, i came across this channel mentioned on HN and thought i'd lurk.
13:38 < kanzure> there are also logs in the /topic
13:38 < heath> hi mullein
13:40 < heath> was just talking with a company here in nashville, they are wanting me to write the HUD for some glasses and potentially start playing with a cyclone 5
13:40 < heath> http://www.altera.com/devices/fpga/cyclone-v-fpgas/cyv-index.jsp
13:42 < heath> anyway, for some reason, vinge's "rainbows end" seemed appropriate to bring up, and I started to think about the statement I had heard once of Vinge predicting the internet
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14:57 < nmz787_i1> paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=114865
14:57 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a5507937e0ede3db5fd60a80cf169011.txt
14:58 < kanzure> unit. tests.
14:58 < nmz787_i1> maybe
14:58 < nmz787_i1> could be a pdf link parsing issue too
14:58 < kanzure> that can be tested too
14:59 < nmz787_i1> i think i'm backpacking this weekend in the mountains, so I doubt I will work on it
14:59 < nmz787_i1> oh, huh
14:59 < nmz787_i1> 'Xplore is under maintenance.'
14:59 < kanzure> getting the sequencer? yes/no?
14:59 < nmz787_i1> never heard back from ParahSailin_
15:00 < nmz787_i1> paperbot: http://www.cs.york.ac.uk/rts/docs/DAC-1964-2006/PAPERS/1990/DAC90_266.PDF
15:01 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b1881f9b0ce3817b9a9762096e115dd3.txt
15:01 < nmz787_i1> oh geeze
15:01 < nmz787_i1> hmm
15:01 < nmz787_i1> that may be an ezproxy error
15:02 < nmz787_i1> but it's strange that paperbot didn't just copy the file
15:02 < nmz787_i1> since it's just right there
15:02 < nmz787_i1> have you ever heard of the topic in that paper kanzure?
15:02 < nmz787_i1> CAD-specific language
15:05 < nmz787_i1> hmm, book: http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=v8l72QBDzD0C&dq=cad+scripting+languages+quan+nguyen&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=uZK-wNj8fU&sig=egRkej0Rb0MhIvh_ONBqZc50KUA&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#v=onepage&q=cad%20scripting%20languages%20quan%20nguyen&f=false
15:05 < nmz787_i1> 'CAD Scripting Languages: A collection of Perl, Ruby,Python,TCL & SKILL'
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15:12 < dpk> SKILL skills
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15:17 < kanzure> no i have not read that paper
15:17 < kanzure> but i know various things about cad scripting. what do you need?
15:18 < kanzure> dpk: do you feel like being tricked into writing unit tests
15:19 < dpk> i feel like most of the time i've written unit tests, i've been tricked into doing it
15:19 < kanzure> do you regret it
15:20 < dpk> i wish Python's unit test features didn't suck so badly
15:20 < dpk> does that count as regret?
15:20 < dpk> probably not. no
15:20 < dpk> i don't regret it
15:20 < kanzure> what particular sucky suckness concerns you?
15:20 < dpk> .g unittest python
15:20 < yoleaux> https://docs.python.org/2/library/unittest.html
15:21 < kanzure> what about it?
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15:21 < kanzure> i have written an embarrassingly large amount of code using that module
15:21 < dpk> feels like using Java. maybe because it is, actually, using Java
15:21 < kanzure> you don't have to use the unittest.TestCase subclassing stuff
15:21 < dpk> deltab told me that it's a Python port of a Java testing module
15:21 < kanzure> oh, probably
15:22 < dpk> which in turn is a port of a Smalltalk testing module
15:23 < dingo_> i think py.test is great
15:23 < dingo_> just write functions
15:23 < dingo_> fuck all that bullshit
15:23 < dingo_> just write simple asserts, 'assert x == y'
15:23 < dingo_> py.test will decorate and display value of x and y
15:23 < dpk> but they didn't even bother trying to make it remotely Pythonic, so you have (or had) to subclass things and use their special comparator methods and they didn't even bother de-camel-casing the names so it actually looks like Java
15:24 < kanzure> dingo_: i was going to ask you about what your resident functional programming person prefers to unittest
15:24 < kanzure> but now that you mention it i do remember him liking py.test
15:24 < dingo_> py.test also
15:24  * dpk will look at py.test, from that description it sounds good
15:24 < dingo_> it has a nice plugin that lets it run unit tests in a loop when they fail, and watches for file changes, he uses that and keeps it in a window while he codes
15:24 < kanzure> i think you cna do that with nose/unittest anyway
15:25 < kanzure> (that does not sound particularly special)
15:25 < kanzure> *can
15:25 < dpk> anyway. what needs unit testing?
15:25 < kanzure> so many typos
15:25 < kanzure> dpk: paperbot
15:25 < dpk> oh
15:25 < dpk> which part?
15:25 < kanzure> well, all of it, i think
15:25 < kanzure> retries across multiple proxies
15:25 < kanzure> when to retry
15:25 < dpk> in my experience there's no point trying to unit test an IRC bot because everything externally breaks so easily
15:26 < kanzure> paperbot v2 has no irc infrastructure
15:26 < dpk> oh, the download bit
15:26 < dpk> not the actual IRC bit
15:26 < kanzure> i was going to expose it over http and then an irc thing could just ping the http service
15:26 < dpk> u mad bro??
15:26 < kanzure> irc bit can be safely ignored i think
15:26 < dpk> ah, k
15:26 < dpk> then you could even use yoleaux to do it!
15:26 < kanzure> i am not mad, just lagging. why is irssi lagging all of the sudden? :(
15:27 < dpk> because of internet weather
15:27 < kanzure> paperbot is not architected to be used by lots of people
15:27 < kanzure> or by lots of other bots
15:28 < kanzure> over its entire history it has only processed 2000 requests
15:28  * dpk nods
15:29 < kanzure> although i would be open to thinking about a decentralized implementation
15:29 < kanzure> where ezproxy loaners are compensated possibly in bitcoin
15:29 < dpk> as an educated guess, i think yoleaux has processed about 5,000 commands in the last 18 months
15:29  * dpk may be able to loan an ezproxy starting next year
15:30 < kanzure> eww look who's going to school
15:30 < dpk> heh, heh
15:31 < dpk> dingo_: how do you assert an error in py.test, then? catch it then assert isinstance on the exception object or what?
15:33 < kanzure> so your main concern about unittest is the javaness, right?
15:33 < dingo_> its quite simple
15:33 < dingo_> https://github.com/jquast/telnetlib3/blob/master/tests/test_pep257.py#L9
15:33 < dingo_> just have 'test' in the function name
15:34 < dingo_> and just use vanilla python 'assert'
15:34 < kanzure> pytest.assertRaises is my guess
15:34 < dingo_> oh for exception? one second,
15:34 < kanzure> pytest.raises()
15:34 < kanzure> and a with statement
15:34 < dingo_> there you go
15:35 < kanzure> scope/context. i don't even remember the right word.
15:35 < dingo_> looks like the one's i did i did by hand
15:35 < dpk> ah, nice
15:35 < dingo_> https://github.com/jquast/blessed/blob/master/blessed/tests/test_formatters.py#L84
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16:25 < nmz787_i1> kanzure: just wondering about CAD stuff, need to script a bunch of Allegro stuff coming up I think
16:25 < nmz787_i1> (allegro the EDA tool, not game engine thing)
16:26 < kanzure> worst case scenario you can hijack their dlls/shared libraries
16:26 < kanzure> ctypes etc
16:28 < nmz787_i1> yeah there may be some c++ interface
16:28 < nmz787_i1> i was thinking libboost
16:28 < nmz787_i1> unless it's easy enough to wrap calls in extern 'c'
16:29 < nmz787_i1> i really don't want to write their config files by hand in case they upgrade and decide to change all their formats... my hope is any API they expose would be less prone to change
16:29 < kanzure> if it is windows then instead of libboost you should just use comtypes/com/dcom
16:30 < nmz787_i1> ah, hmm, i guess we're already using com, and one team member has experience with it
16:31 < kanzure> you should use com
16:33 < kanzure> comtypes is a python library that makes working with com less awful
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16:39 < nmz787_i1> for one thing looks like we're using win32com and pythoncom
16:40 < kanzure> you can replace that with comtypes pretty easily
16:43 < dingo_> win32com is an effective library
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18:49 < nmz787_i1> huh 'anti-viral' kleenex tissues... contains ~2% SLS and ~7% citric acid
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19:08 < nmz787_i1> wow... http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmakers/201409/the-last-true-hermit/
19:09 < kanzure> why wow
19:09 < kanzure> ugh
19:18 < nmz787_i1> "That was nice. But still, I pressed on, there must have been some grand insight revealed to him in the wild. He returned to silence. Whether he was thinking or fuming or both, I couldn't tell. Though he did arrive at an answer. I felt like some great mystic was about to reveal the Meaning of Life.
19:18 < nmz787_i1> "Get enough sleep."
19:18 < nmz787_i1> "
19:21 < kanzure> that is wow?
19:22 < kanzure> i feel let down
19:32 < nmz787_i1> "As the evenings began to chill, he grew his beard to the ideal length—about an inch, long enough to insulate his face, short enough to prevent ice buildup."
19:32 < nmz787_i1> hmm, i am not sure of how that works
19:33 < nmz787_i1> 'I asked him if he just slept all the time, a human hibernation. "Completely wrong," he replied. "It's dangerous to sleep too long in winter." When seriously frigid weather descended, he conditioned himself to fall asleep at 7:30 P.M. and get up at 2 A.M. "That way, at the depth of cold, I was awake." If he remained in bed any longer, condensation from his body could freeze his sleeping bag. "If you try and sleep through that kind of
19:34 < kanzure> you suck at pasting on irc
19:35 < catern> split_line.pl
19:36 < nmz787_i1> 'Some said that he must immediately be released from jail. Stealing cheese and bacon are not serious crimes. The man was apparently never violent. He didn't carry a weapon. He's an introvert, not a criminal. He clearly has no desire to be a part of our world. Let's open a Kickstarter, get him enough cash for a few years' worth of groceries, and allow him to go back to the woods. Some people were willing to let him live on their land,
19:36 < nmz787_i1> how so?
19:36 < nmz787_i1> (do i suck at pasting?)
19:37 < nmz787_i1> they look like single contiguous blocks to me
19:39 < nmz787_i1> pretty cool article
19:39 < nmz787_i1> idk what you're complaining about kanzure, guess you never half-froze during sleep
19:39 < nmz787_i1> to know why it's cool
19:39 < nmz787_i1> :)
19:44 < kanzure> nmz787_i1: check the logs http://gnusha.org/logs/2014-08-27.log
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20:54 < kanzure> nifty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
20:54 < kanzure> my bias is -3 mV
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22:13 < kanzure> http://www.thecoinsman.com/2014/08/bitcoin/inside-one-worlds-largest-bitcoin-mines/
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22:15 < kanzure> i think the other ones were more impressive
22:16 < kanzure> what happened to the leety leetness liquid cooling stuff
22:16 < dingo_> http://www.hitbox.tv/ognid
22:16 < dingo_> there, now i'm a famous streaming programmer :)
22:17 < kanzure> such fame
22:17 < kanzure> i appreciate the authentic typing sounds
22:18 < dingo_> ahh too late i already fixed the bug
22:18 < dingo_> now just boring github activity
22:21 < justanotheruser> It's a bit silly that chinese tax payers are subsidizing the bitcoin network
22:21 < kanzure> is it?
22:22 < justanotheruser> yes
22:22 < kanzure> alright
22:22 < justanotheruser> I have said it
22:22 < justanotheruser> now it is true
22:22 < kanzure> right
22:24 < kanzure> you are linting before it lets you exit the file?
22:24 < dingo_> annoying flake8 plugin
22:25 < kanzure> i just got ognid :(
22:25 < justanotheruser> Thoughts on a new address type that is just a serialized script?
22:25 < kanzure> i feel like that was proposed somewhere else before
22:26 < kanzure> possibly one of the bips?
22:26 < justanotheruser> not that I know of.
22:26 < justanotheruser> maybe you're thinking of p2sh
22:26 < justanotheruser> which has the hash of the script as the address
22:26 < kanzure> there was something about pay to script
22:26 < kanzure> hm maybe
22:26 < justanotheruser> pay to script hash?
22:26 < kanzure> could be, yeah
22:27 < justanotheruser> anyways, p2sh has a few limitations like lack of OP_RETURN abilities
22:27 < justanotheruser> and 512bytes
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22:35 < dingo_> worst part of pexpect its 10 fucking years of bad python
22:36 < dingo_> you want to clean it up every time you see it
22:36 < dingo_> but you can't, thousands of folk use it
22:36 < dingo_> you can't just go changing stupid shit
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22:47 < nmz787_> kanzure: I don't see anything new in the logs
22:51 < kanzure> your messages
22:51 < kanzure> they are being cutoff
22:51 < kanzure> check the logs
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