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[~Ohmu@cpc69129-oxfd25-2-0-cust987.4-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:59 < chris_99> http://hackaday.com/2014/08/31/thp-semifinalist-fnir-brain-imager/ sounds kind of interesting 09:06 < kanzure> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Joey_williams_with_a_19_foot_long_blue_whale_skull.jpg 09:09 -!- Vutral_ [~ss@176.10.107.230] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:09 -!- Merovoth [~Merovoth@gateway/tor-sasl/merovoth] has quit [] 09:13 -!- _0bitcount [~big-byte@81.61.209.223.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:19 < eudoxia> the image lived up to the URL 09:34 < kanzure> needs to go on my wall 09:51 -!- bob_dobbs [~snuffels@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:cb85:6a00:7c69:5188:1318:1e3b] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:21 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-133-116-93.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:58 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping 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be written 12:04 < pi-> yay 12:05 < pi-> Is anyone help me with the dev? 12:05 < pi-> ^helping you 12:05 < pi-> ARGH sometimes I want to punch my speech recognition 12:05 < kanzure> someone contributed some ezproxy stuff a few days ago.. and ParahSailin contributed libgen integration. 12:06 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/blob/master/paperbot/orchestrate.py#L62 12:09 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:10 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:14 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: strangewarp, catern 12:19 -!- Netsplit over, joins: strangewarp 12:20 -!- mokstar [~Mookaborb@unaffiliated/mokstar] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:27 -!- mokstar [~Mookaborb@c-24-21-241-171.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:27 -!- catern [~catern@catern.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:39 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-81-126-79.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the 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did i set his sensitivity too high 20:00 < kanzure> i don't remember changing it 20:01 < ParahSailin> hm ok i guess maseca involves a boiling step 20:02 < ParahSailin> there needs to be the aubrey de grey soylent recipe 20:02 < ParahSailin> regular soylent + 3% grain alcohol 20:03 < kanzure> "also lots of high altitude air travel, that's sure to help" 20:03 < ParahSailin> alcohol is an effective energy source- goes straight to ac-coa skipping a whole bunch of useless steps 20:04 < ParahSailin> insulin neutral too 20:04 < ParahSailin> its like liquid fat for high octane keto people 20:05 < gradstudentbot> Yeah, but his PI wrote his dissertation. 20:06 < kanzure> http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh22-3/211.pdf 20:06 -!- gradstudentbot [~gradstude@131.252.130.248] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:07 < kanzure> oh 20:07 < kanzure> "Alternatively, chronically drinking diabetics may show worse compliance with their dietary and pharmacological treatment regimens, which also may result in uncontrolled blood sugar levels." 20:07 < kanzure> nevermind then 20:07 < kanzure> what a waste of time why the hell did they even bother writing this 20:10 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:11 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@c-50-137-46-240.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:12 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@50.137.46.240] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:25 -!- gurpgork [~snuffels@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845] has quit [Quit: The force will be with you, always.] 20:27 -!- night is now known as night|club 20:27 -!- gene_hacker_ [~chatzilla@c-50-137-46-240.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:29 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@50.137.46.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:29 -!- gene_hacker_ is now known as gene_hacker 20:54 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@c-50-137-46-240.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:12 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:13 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:15 < kanzure> hm.. so here's a brain reading technology idea: use focused ultrasound and microbubbles (of some undefined type) that are able to sample their chemical environment briefly when hit with ultrasound before returning to their spherical state. 21:16 < kanzure> then route the bubbles through the bloodstream to some chip, bubbles get analyzed by the chip (outside the brain) 21:16 < kanzure> this would obviously lag by a huge amount 21:17 < kanzure> and would require careful tracking of which bubbles are present in which parts of the bloodstream or which bubbles were activated when 21:18 < kanzure> they would probably get stuck instead of hitching a ride in the bloodstream immediately, if it worked at all in the first place 21:21 < kanzure> also you wouldn't know the exact flow rates through each capillary or route 21:22 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:40 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@CPEbcc810070371-CMbcc81007036e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57 < kanzure> launch in t minus 15 seconds http://www.spacex.com/webcast/ 21:59 < kanzure> hm i tuned in at the right moment to see a launch? seems a little unlikely 22:05 < dingo_> cool 22:07 -!- CharlieNobody [~CharlieNo@97-85-208-170.static.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:13 < kanzure> "After Ulbricht’s arrest, evidence was discovered on his computer reflecting that IP address leaks were a recurring problem for him. In a file containing a log Ulbricht kept of his actions in administering the Silk Road website, there are multiple entries discussing various leaks of IP addresses of servers involved in running the Silk Road website and the steps he took to remedy them. For example, a March 25, 2013 entry states that the ... 22:13 < kanzure> ... server had been “ddosd” – i.e., subjected to a distributed denial of service attack, involving flooding the server with traffic – which, Ulbricht concluded, meant “someone knew the real IP.” The entry further notes that it appeared someone had “discovered the IP via a leak” and that Ulbricht “migrated to a new server” as a result. A May 3, 2013 entry similarly states: “Leaked IP of webserver to public and had to ... 22:13 < kanzure> ... redeploy/shred [the server].” Another entry, from May 26, 2013, states that, as a result of changes he made to the Silk Road discussion forum, he “leaked [the] ip [address of the forum server] twice” and had to change servers." 22:13 < kanzure> that's some pretty crappy opsec 22:14 < kanzure> good thing i'm safe because nobody even knows about dread space pirate metalbeard 22:26 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:cb85:6a00:7c69:5188:1318:1e3b] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:45 < kanzure> emotiv macosx support https://github.com/openyou/emokit/pull/118 22:45 < night|club> thanks, kanzure 22:45 < night|club> I'm still waiting on the insight 22:45 < night|club> delayed for god knows how long 22:46 < kanzure> what? 22:46 < night|club> emotiv insight? 22:46 < kanzure> are you bschumacher? 22:46 < night|club> no? 22:46 < kanzure> then why the fuck are you thanking me? 22:46 < kanzure> what's going on? 22:46 < night|club> because I use a mac 22:47 < kanzure> i didn't do this work 22:47 < kanzure> bschumacher did this work 22:47 < night|club> perhaps I'm thanking you for notifying me of and linking me to this? 22:47 < kanzure> hm this is a possibility 22:49 < kanzure> why did you buy an emotiv product anyway? 22:49 < night|club> I havne't yet 22:49 < night|club> as I said I'm waiting on the insight 22:50 < kanzure> you should consider skipping the whole thing entirely 22:51 < night|club> why would that be 22:51 -!- night|club is now known as night 22:52 < kanzure> the hardware isn't particularly worth it 22:52 -!- petrusk [~asakharov@24.60.79.55] has quit [Quit: quit] 22:52 < night> well 22:52 < night> I'm not sure what else is worth it more 22:55 < night> the fact is unless an alternative to EEG is devised we're stuck with this 22:56 < night> crude but fun to play with 22:58 < kanzure> i wouldn't call it fun either.. 22:59 < kanzure> it's like a constant kick in the pants reminder about how slow everything is 22:59 < kanzure> and how few bytes you can dump out 22:59 < kanzure> and then they have the cojones to force all this proprietary junkware on me? why would anyone pay for that 23:01 < night> nevertheless, proprietary shit aside, I think it's valuable to explore what's available despite its limitations 23:01 < night> akin to computers in the 40s 23:02 < kanzure> wouldn't it be easier to just press a key on the keyboard and wait 2-3 seconds? 23:09 < night> if I were to stretch the metaphor, the babbage difference engine and von neumann architecture were developed long before computers were practical 23:09 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:09 < night> thus I think meaningful developments can be made before the hardware itself is up to par 23:10 < kanzure> i don't think betting on eeg is useful or meaningful 23:11 < night> neither do I 23:11 < night> but a lot of stuff still applies 23:11 < kanzure> uh? 23:13 < night> I don't think EEG/MEG is final, and neither should anybody 23:14 < night> but the language regarding interfacing with the brain regardless of the particular tech is useful, no? 23:28 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@CPEbcc810070371-CMbcc81007036e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:32 -!- ruthie [~ruthie@CPEbcc810070371-CMbcc81007036e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] --- Log closed Sun Sep 07 00:00:58 2014