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01:45 < delinquentme> kanzure, yew le awake?
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02:23 < archels> kanzure: excellent tune
02:23 < archels> (moar)
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04:08 < archels> .head www.scholarpedia.org
04:08 < yoleaux> 302, text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
04:08 < archels> .title www.scholarpedia.org
04:08 < yoleaux> archels: Sorry, that command (.title) crashed.
04:08 < archels> yeah
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04:16 < archels> aaand we're back
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05:10 < pi-> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14668808
05:10 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnrd1228
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05:52 < pi-> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16173073
05:52 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1002%2Fana.20627
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06:44 < kanzure> vietnam banned bitcoin, right?
06:52 < kanzure> archels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeV0-H0LA4w
06:53 < kanzure> .title
06:53 < yoleaux> Robert R. Hardy - Aesthetics (Loquai Remix)
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07:04 < archels> ♪
07:09 < kanzure> archels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap2gLkDPAiA&index=9&list=PLgO7JBj821uEPwFiOKzetby0W1lBHMhCD&t=25s
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07:15 < kanzure> "Experimenting coupling a CPU-based rigid body simulation with a GPU-based fluid simulation." https://github.com/haxiomic/GPU-Fluid-Experiments
07:16 < kanzure> this is poorly implemented but otherwise an interesting bookmarking tool https://github.com/davidlazar/jotmuch
07:17 < eudoxia> oh cool, that's exactly the same thing i use (YAML bookmarks)
07:18 < eudoxia> but i have a script to turn them into an HTML homepage + JS open/closing of sublists
07:20 < kanzure> needs arrow + click installed
07:20 < kanzure> TypeError: __new__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'keep_trailing_newline'
07:20 < kanzure> i almost like the idea of opening up $EDITOR to change details about the new bookmark
07:22 < kanzure> maybe if there was a way to open at a specific character number so that you don't have to always navigate after the editor opens up
07:23 < kanzure> otherwise you're always going to be typing 5w by default when the editor opens up to get to the tag section
07:23 < kanzure> vim +5go
07:32 < kanzure> er, it's variable of course because of the url param appearing first. hrm.
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08:12  * heath has been wanting a synthetic biology podcast for awhile
08:12 < heath> not a one off "what is synbio" podcast as you see all over the place
08:16 < heath> https://soundcloud.com/longnow/synthetic-biology-debate
08:16 < heath> drew endy jim thomas debate on synbio
08:16 < heath> also on fora
08:16 < heath> http://fora.tv/2008/11/17/Drew_Endy_and_Jim_Thomas_Debate_Synthetic_Biology/Designing_and_Building_Organisms_Simple_As_Writing_Code
08:20 < kanzure> "... there is no source, the bytecode has multiple reentrent abstractions, is unstable and has a very low signal to noise ratio, the runtime is unbootstrappable, the execution is nondeterministic, it tries to randomly integrate and execute code from other computers... multiple reentrant and self-modifying abstractions. absolutely everything has subtle side effects."
08:20 < kanzure> but other than that, sure, it's exactly like coding..
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08:50 < heath> kanzure: is that the cathal interview?
08:51 < heath> sounds like it
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08:52 < kanzure> nope just hplusroadmap
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09:07 < ybit> .meow
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09:08  * ybit approves of taking the kittens out of the lab
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10:08 < pi-> kanzure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_Bitcoin_by_country <-- looks like Wikipedia hasn't caught up with the news
10:12 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8336025
10:12 < yoleaux> TXT Record XSS | Hacker News
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12:20 < nmz787_i> you don't even need to click on these titles to enjoy some of them https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/
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12:49 < jrayhawk> i would prefer to replace half the web with nntp
12:49 < jrayhawk> for instance, every blog
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13:01  * nmz787_i be the change you wish to see in the internet
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13:06  * nmz787_i just bought https://eevblog.myshopify.com/products/ucurrent
13:06 < nmz787_i> they were out of stock for a while
13:06 < nmz787_i> http://www.eevblog.com/projects/ucurrent/
13:08 < chris_99> oh yeah i remember those
13:10 < chris_99> is anyone a vim expert per chance? i'm trying to return a value from lua to a vim function
13:14 < dingo> not that much of an expert :)
13:14 < dingo> vim developer, hehe
13:14 < dingo> there are mailing lists for plugin devs i beleive
13:14 < jrayhawk> chris_99: i think the traditional answer from vim experts is something like "if you don't want to choose between a crappy interface (emacs) and a crappy scripting language (vim), use http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Evil "
13:14 < chris_99> haha
13:15 < chris_99> woo! got it, in the lua side you do: vim.command("return 'blah'")
13:17 < chris_99> dingo, what do you think of neovim
13:22 < jrayhawk> what does it offer over dispatch.vim ?
13:23 < dingo> ill probably use neovim if they solve the concurrency issue
13:23 < dingo> neither vim or emacs has yet
13:23 < dingo> if emacs solves it i'd use the whatever
13:23 < dingo> evil mode
13:24 < dingo> problem is its emacs-lisp
13:24 < jrayhawk> What's the concurrency issue?
13:24 < dingo> running things like static analysis, or llvm stuff, without blocking
13:24 < dingo> the one i use now writes to an external file that vim periodically polls
13:24 < dingo> and sometimes gets wrong and fucks all up
13:24 < jrayhawk> I've seen that done with emacs, but I don't know the details.
13:25 < dingo> just watched a presentation on a 30yr emacs veteran who says emacs hasn't solved it either
13:25 < jrayhawk> Most notably for compile-testing in the background and syntax highlighting compiler errors
13:25 < jrayhawk> which was pretty slick
13:25 < dingo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VADudzQGvU8
13:26 < kanzure> were either of emacs or vi well designed from the beginning?
13:26 < jrayhawk> No, both went through major rewrites.
13:26 < jrayhawk> From scratch rewrites, even
13:26 < dingo> i'll use anything somebody impresses me with
13:26 < dingo> makes me go "i wish i could do that in vim"
13:27 < dingo> i just dont see it, its usually the other way around
13:28 < kanzure> i could see the value of a vim or emacs keybinding compatible thing that maybe doesn't have to deal with the burden of legacy cruft
13:28 < dingo> http://youtu.be/VADudzQGvU8?t=34m39s <- timeindexed at what im speaking about, jrayhawk
13:29 < kanzure> hah pmetzger used to be in here
13:29 < jrayhawk> something's throttling me down to 200kiB/s on that video, so I don't think I'm going to be seeing minute 34 anytime soon.
13:30 < kanzure> "Perry Metzger has been using Emacs as his text editor since early September, 1983 -- nearly 31 years."
13:30 < kanzure> what a squatter
13:30 < dingo> (the audience in this particular talk pisses me off... they're so loud an obnoxious, interrupt him all the time... its in new york so i attribute it to that"
13:30 < dingo> H)
13:30 < dingo> ddd
13:32 < kanzure> haha he had to tell someone that a subprocess is different than running it in elisp
13:32 < kanzure> quite the soldier
13:32 < dingo> yeah.. i feel a vim users group wouldn't be so damn obnoxious lol
13:33 < kanzure> i told him to fuck off once
13:34 < kanzure> he still holds it agains tme heh
13:34 < kanzure> *against me
13:36 < dingo> hehe
13:36 < kanzure> also i think he's top 50 suspects for satoshi nakamoto
13:38 < dingo> i'd place him #45
13:46 < kanzure> win 5
13:46 < kanzure> oops
13:48 < nmz787_i> http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20140916-mystery-fairy-circles-defy-explanation
13:52 < kanzure> dingo: oh it was an emacs user group. the heckling makes slightly more sense now.
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14:13 < jrayhawk> correction: i am crazy, it was not async
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14:14 < kanzure> ybit says http://www.biotechniques.com/news/Cellular-Barcoding-Goes-Somewhere-Over-the-Brainbow/biotechniques-353864.html
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15:03 < nmz787_i> paperbot: http://dox.doi.org/10.1093/nar/gku604
15:03 < nmz787_i> .title
15:03 < yoleaux> nmz787_i: Sorry, that command (.title) crashed.
15:03 < paperbot> ConnectionError: HTTPConnectionPool(host='dox.doi.org', port=80): Max retries exceeded with url: /10.1093/nar/gku604 (Caused by <class 'socket.gaierror'>: [Errno -2] Name or service not known) (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 375, in send)
15:04 < nmz787_i> paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1093/nar/gku604
15:04 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e4e00064138b7435297290b7e87b10bb.txt
15:12 < nmz787_i> http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.1001411
15:12 < nmz787_i> "Second, barcodes from synaptically connected neurons must be associated. One way to associate a pre- and postsynaptic barcode is by means of a transsynaptic virus such as rabies [19] or pseudorabies (PRV) [20]. These viruses have evolved exquisite mechanisms for moving genetic material across synapses and have been used extensively for tracing neural circuits in rodents. To share barcodes across synapses, the virus must be engineered
15:13 < nmz787_i>  to carry the barcode within its own genetic sequence. After transsynaptic spread of the virus each postsynaptic neuron can be thought of as a “bag of barcodes,” consisting of copies of its own “host” barcodes, along with “invader” barcodes from presynaptically coupled neurons"
15:14 < nmz787_i> to carry the barcode within its own genetic sequence. After transsynaptic spread of the virus each postsynaptic neuron can be thought of as a “bag of barcodes,” consisting of copies of its own “host” barcodes, along with “invader” barcodes from presynaptically coupled neurons"
15:14 < nmz787_i> hmm, those last few quoted words appear garbled in the logs
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15:31 < kanzure> neo4j has 29k commits why? https://github.com/neo4j/neo4j
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15:33 < nmz787_i> ok let's try this again
15:33 < nmz787_i> "Second, barcodes from synaptically connected neurons must be associated. One way to associate a pre- and postsynaptic barcode is by means of a transsynaptic virus such as rabies [19] or pseudorabies (PRV) [20]. These viruses have evolved exquisite mechanisms for moving genetic material across synapses and have been used extensively for tracing neural circuits in rodents. To share barcodes across synapses, the virus must be
15:33 < nmz787_i> engineered to carry the barcode within its own genetic sequence. After transsynaptic spread of the virus each postsynaptic neuron can be thought of as a "bag of barcodes,"" consisting of copies of its own "host" barcodes, along with "invader" barcodes from presynaptically coupled neurons (Figure 2B)."
15:35 < nmz787_i> kanzure: no idea re commits... I looked at neo4j briefly last weekend but not since... since it didn't seem to have anything related to graph crossings, which was why I took interest in it
15:36 < nmz787_i> idk if it would be required of me to use a database rather than just classes that point to each other, since I think I was going to do crossing detection using line segment intersection geometry
15:42 < kanzure> networkx probably has a thing for that
15:42 < kanzure> matt would know too
15:45 < chris_99> kanzure, heh someone else pointed that out to me today too heh, about neo4j and the commit count
15:46 < kanzure> you might know one of my other aliases
15:46 < chris_99> haha
16:06 < nmz787_i> idk, lot's of people screwing up commits and reverting? https://github.com/neo4j/neo4j/graphs/code-frequency
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16:29 < Windy101> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1567-1364.12206/pdf
16:29 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f327266474e193db0183eeb119b0372c.txt
16:30 < Windy101> paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1567-1364.12206/abstract
16:31 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/3e3feb19fd241f346b750fdf8220b0.txt
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16:34 < kanzure> haha that was someone from amyris
16:35 < kanzure> this is an amusing novelty from a mining pool, a bootable linux usb stick live distro thingy that points immediately to their mining pool https://magicpool.org/magicos.php
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17:25 < kanzure> wow such frequency https://campbx.com/api.php "Please ensure that there is at least 500 millisecond latency between two calls"
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17:37 < kanzure> dbolser: i have been playing with this https://github.com/davidlazar/jotmuch (for bookmarks)
17:37 < kanzure> dbolser: perhaps that will fix the boredness?
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17:40 < dbolser> kanzure: I'm only bored because I should be doing something else
17:40  * dbolser tries to focus
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20:42 < Lemminkainen> paperbot http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/v9/n9/full/nnano.2014.156.html
20:42 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnnano.2014.156
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21:53 < kanzure> too many links
21:53 < kanzure> even for me
21:54 < kanzure> although it is nice to have a sane bookmarking system again
21:54 < kanzure> now i don't have to remember urls as much
21:55 < kanzure> kanzure@abacus:~/local/jotmuch/jotmuch$ ./jot count
21:55 < kanzure> 464
22:18 < catern> wow
22:19 < catern> everyone is playing with jotmuch
22:19 < catern> kanzure: unless you saw people mentioning it in lesswrong?
22:24 < kanzure> no
22:24 < kanzure> it was in a github email
22:25 < kanzure> not surprising that others know about it
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