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01:56 < jrayhawk> 'OS X doesn't use Bash for configuring DHCP, so it's not vulnerable. All of that is done in the kernel on Macs.' worst bsd
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04:18 < archels> hehe, not a moment too soon installing TexMed on my own server. the one at bioinformatics.org is returning an internal server error
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05:50 < ebowden> paperbot: http://jop.sagepub.com/content/26/9/1265.abstract
05:50 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1177%2F0269881111431747
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07:47 < kanzure> what does git call a set of commits that post-receive receives
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09:18 < kanzure> http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/cookietest
09:18 < kanzure> http://vivo.aaas.org/vivisimo/cgi-bin/query-meta
09:18 < kanzure> http://aaas.confex.com/aaas/2014/poster/cfp.cgi
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10:03 < kanzure> 10:00 < sipa> some programmers, when cobfronted with a problem think "i know, i'll use floating point!"; now they have 1.9999997 problems
10:04 < chris_99> lol
10:05 < dingo> hehe
10:06 < kanzure> https://soundcloud.com/kieranj/dr-avalance-cuatro-contra-tres
10:06 < kanzure> https://soundcloud.com/stivenrivic/ilya-gerus-vague-hallucinationsmichael-levan-and-stiven-rivic-remix
10:07 < kanzure> https://soundcloud.com/stivenrivic/michael-levan-and-stiven-rivic-breaking-point-original-mix
10:17 < kanzure> 10:12 <+dpk> "3rd Shellshock Vulnerability Found"
10:17 < kanzure> 10:12 <+kanzure> setuid false alarm
10:17 < kanzure> 10:13 <+nsh-> well, not really
10:17 < kanzure> 10:13 <+nsh-> any setuid/setgid program that uses system or exec in an OS that has bash as default shell (such as RHEL/CentOS) will be vulnerable
10:18 < nsh-> http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/747
10:26 < dingo> not many setuid's use system or exec
10:26 < dingo> folk know better
10:26 < dingo> setuids have become quite rare and scrutinized
10:27 < dingo> like why would ping(1) call system() or exec()
10:28 < dingo> anyway its fun, even my telnet bbs is vulnerable
10:28 < dingo> or could have been, i knew better when i added external door support
10:28 < dingo> its just a fun thought exercise
10:29 < dingo> i use execpe with explicit environment variables that are sanitized
10:29 < dingo> and even though i use the NEW_ENVIRON telnet negotiation to retrieve the user's environment values, its not passed on, they're controlled
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10:30 < dingo> i think my company's software is vulnerable though haha
10:31 < dingo> i fought religiously hard against the convenient subprocess.whatever("command as a bash string | maybe a convenient pipe", shell=True)
10:31 < dingo> i argued it for a week and won all battles except one, where | was used
10:31 < dingo> so i think you could set a password with the () blah bullshit
10:32 < dingo> and since the password is sent via environment variable through a piece of shit called sshpass, i think theres an attack vector there
10:32 < dingo> you just have to make sure the password is legitimately correct, so that it can get so far
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10:45 < dingo> anyway here's your cheat sheet hehe, http://pentestmonkey.net/cheat-sheet/shells/reverse-shell-cheat-sheet
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11:14 < kanzure> oh thank you i was just looking for that /me takes
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12:58 < facefaceface> http://www.pnas.org/content/111/38/13811
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13:01 < facefaceface> anyone looked at futures on OKCoin?
13:02 < archels> paperbot: http://www.pnas.org/content/111/38/13811.full.pdf+html?with-ds=yes
13:06 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/1be9f5a4112f6b4b020190e919531891.txt
13:07 < facefaceface> night
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14:38 < kanzure> hm
14:38 < kanzure> Unable to connect server nucleus.kafuka.org port 6667 [Connection refused]
14:39 < dingo> who is peer and why does he keep reseting me
14:39 < kanzure> i had a tmux problem of some sort
14:40 < kanzure> tmux --help was even hanging
14:40 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/tmux-help-strace.log.txt
14:41 < dingo> it was trying to access your /tmp/tmux-1000/default
14:41 < dingo> and its polling it
14:41 < dingo> (even for --help; which is odd)
14:42 < dingo> thats the sort of shit gnu-screen used to give me that i quit using it for, the master process would lock up and i couldn't re-attach
14:42 < kanzure> i wonder if they actually stress test tmux
14:42 < kanzure> other than "a hundred thousand angry nerds hanging out on irc forever"
14:44 < kanzure> "On September 24, 2014, Alcor’s membership reached 1000 for the first time. This is the first time any cryonics organization has had this many members with full financial and contractual arrangements for cryopreservation. (Counting all classes of members, total membership is 1255.)"
15:56 < kanzure> dingo: https://www.npmjs.org/package/angry-caching-proxy
15:58 < kanzure> https://github.com/epeli/angry-caching-proxy
15:58 < kanzure> although i'm not sure which specific features this offers over a generic http cache
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16:02 < kanzure> ah, it filters relevant requests https://github.com/epeli/angry-caching-proxy/blob/master/buildin-triggers.js
16:04 < kanzure> also it doesn't actually cache all the pages that pip requests anyway. hrm.
16:05 < kanzure> "Paylogic uses pip-accel to quickly and reliably initialize virtual environments on its farm of continuous integration slaves which are constantly running unit tests (this was one of the original use cases for which pip-accel was developed). We also use it on our build servers."
16:07 < dingo> yeah... you could just use squid for that matter
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16:09 < dingo> https://github.com/epeli/angry-caching-proxy/blob/master/buildin-triggers.js
16:09 < dingo> this is pretty much all it is
16:09 < dingo> just translate such rules to your preferred http proxy and configure for "keep forever" and you're done
16:11 < kanzure> agreed, meh
16:11 < dingo> https://gist.github.com/jquast/a4e009d28428075ae073
16:11 < dingo> you could modify this to return None instead of raise Exception
16:11 < dingo> pip_bin = which('pip-accel') or which('pip')
16:12 < dingo> so my company's setup.py's are complicated as hell now
16:13 < kanzure> haha yes
16:13 < dingo> vova if you remember him, introduced a simple Makefile frontend
16:13 < kanzure> those setup.py's have a mind of their own
16:13 < dingo> "make develop; make install; make docs"
16:13 < kanzure> hahah a second layer yes
16:13 < dingo> but those aren't OS portable, we have windows build systems also
16:13 < dingo> i think fabfiles may be the correct, portable, solution
16:13 < dingo> i'd like to see setup.py's be their natural layer
16:14 < dingo> just 50 line metadata descriptions
16:14 < dingo> and a fabfile to do all the heavy lifting
16:14 < kanzure> fabfiles are just fabric + sshing into other boxes?
16:14 < kanzure> why would that solve your problems
16:14 < dingo> it doesn't even have to do that, though
16:14 < dingo> just treat it like Makefile in python language
16:14 < kanzure> oh you mean for the .. ah.
16:14 < kanzure> more like rakefile
16:14 < dingo> https://github.com/jquast/blessed/blob/master/fabfile.py
16:14 < dingo> (I didn't write this, just inherited it)
16:14 < dingo> exactly like rakefile
16:15 < kanzure> http://docs.pyinvoke.org/en/latest/concepts/execution.html#base-case
16:15 < dingo> yeah theres another one like that by the warzekueguewhatevetr author
16:16 < dingo> http://click.pocoo.org/3/
16:16 < dingo> flask/jinja guy
16:16 < kanzure> i wasn't going to suggest click but okay
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16:16 < dingo> me neither, hehe
16:16 < dingo> this @task seems more like Makefile with chained dependencies
16:16 < nmz787> i don't like how pip doesn't actually install files where you tell it to
16:16 < kanzure> so many wheels being reinvented
16:17 < nmz787> it creates a lib/site-packages and puts things in there
16:17 < dingo> argparse and __name__ == "__main__" is crappy looking but, whatever, really
16:17 < nmz787> like, why the hell would you have an override option that is half-overriding
16:17 < dingo> there are more interesting problems to solve than style and appearance
16:18 < dingo> people get a taste of clean and brief code using decorators and they just won't quit
16:18 < nmz787> i also seem to hate cmake and make, in the sense that they only frustrate me
16:18 < dingo> yes they have both frustrated me a great deal
16:19 < dingo> i remember spending about 4 hours trying to figure out how to get an X11 include directory on a *BSD, frustrated me to no end
16:19 < kanzure> yes but did you read the docs
16:19 < dingo> submitted the patch and the author is like "I don't think thats the right place to put it... but I also don't know where it belongs.." lol
16:20 < dingo> 4 hours, i guess you're right, i could probably only read half the documentation in that time
16:20 < nmz787> everything needs hyperlinking
16:20 < kanzure> expecting to know cmake or make without reading the documentation seems silly to me
16:20 < nmz787> for macros and buried shit
16:20 < nmz787> well why shouldn't it be self-documenting?
16:20 < nmz787> or easy to use?
16:21 < dingo> yeah... i learned python by just modifying somebody else's code, it was like... obvious, php the same
16:21 < kanzure> it is not obvious in php how to write good code at all
16:21 < dingo> no but its obvious how to write an if and an echo or whatever
16:22 < dingo> theres a difference between authoring a framework library and just patching or debugging something that isn't working
16:22 < dingo> sucks to have to read a book's worth of material for a one-line change
16:22 < kanzure> build systems almost can't be one liners
16:23 < dingo> the problem that's not allowing it to build often is :)
16:23 < kanzure> http://ofb.net/~wnoise/build-system/
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16:52 < nmz787> I'll probably never actually get around to this though.
16:52 < nmz787> ""
16:52 < nmz787> (from that last link)
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18:00 < kanzure> import bitcoin.rpc
18:00 < kanzure> proxy = bitcoin.rpc.Proxy(btc_conf_file="/etc/bitcoin/regtest.conf")
18:01 < kanzure> oh i see, it's probably some ipython trickery
18:01 < kanzure> typing just "proxy" gets "JSONRPCException: msg: u'Method not found'  code: -32601" even though type(proxy) is bitcoin.rpc.Proxy sigh
18:02 < kanzure> but it's not the repr or the str
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20:01 < kanzure> not the worst bitcoin transaction explanation i've seen http://chimera.labs.oreilly.com/books/1234000001802/ch05.html
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22:02 < kanzure> justanotheruser: pm?
22:02 < justanotheruser> kanzure: sure
22:02 < justanotheruser> oh
22:02 < justanotheruser> already happened
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